Thread: WoW Vs FFXI
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:05 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Shiftfallout View Post
From a "professional/educated" standpoint, WoW is a better designed and solid game. There is no bias in this statement, it is just a fact. You can still not like a solidly made game, but it doesn't change its release quality. Which, you seem to confuse. FFXI introduces a few new and welcome concepts but still fails in others. Its underlying design has some issues. Sorry, but its true. You can still enjoy a game with some cons in its design, but it doesnt change the fact that they are still there.


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Your qoute bolded out part of the qoute says

- "World of Warcraft is fundamentally an extremely good and exceptionally well-designed game".

- You say From a "professional/educated" standpoint WoW better designed and more solid than FFXI.

okay obviously your half design degree didn't do much for you in the way of english. The work you quoted from never said WoW is better designed and more solid than FFXI. Read carefully mr half design degree man.

"Nike is an exceptionally designed show" does not mean "Nike is designed better and is more solid than Timberlands"


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You admitted WoW has a crappy endgame, I wouldn't agree with that entirely. but you said getting to the cap is 1000s times more fun.

-By that we can assume that FFXI has a more solid endgame.
-I can go further to say FFXI has more content getting to end game than WoW does.

PVP aside. What aspects of WoW are more solid than FFXI really. Educate me, that's what people with degrees should do. There really is no redemtion for you after you said WoW has a really crappy endgame and grinding there is more 1000s times more fun.

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To quote you:
"No where did i say which grind is harder and for which game, or which one is more engaging or not. Grind in itself is an action/verb, it is mindless in nature. People often confuse killing a mob with Grind. Like you. Grind is never hard. A mobs difficulty has nothing to do with the act of grinding for levels. Gee, its not that hard to comprehend."

Your swaying back and forth more than Prez Bush because you have no basis for your argument. I am sorry but this is the dumbest and most contradictory thing I have ever quoted. Which is strange because I have quoted myself saying some really dumb things.

-Grind is never hard ~ FFXI is not very kind to the mindless button mashing mob rusher. If your party is stupid your grind will ALWAYS be hard.

-Grinding is mindless in nature ~ FFXI broke the mindless grinding, either that or FFXI has NO grind, which is hard to imagine because you say. "Every game has grind to an extent."

- A mobs difficulty has nothing to do with the act of grinding for levels. ~ Aparently the only exception is FFXI, Because your party has to adjust to each other and every mob type. If you have mixed mobs, you'd pull one kind depending on where u are in the chain. Depending on what the status of the mages mp and tanks health are. You'd have to adjust your fighting technique and sometimes skillchain by each mob. In FFXI the mobs difficult has EVERYTHING to do with the act of grinding for levels.

Everything u state are baseless 'in the air' claims, backed by a document which doesn't provide a reasonable foundation for your argument, and your tendency to call people idiots because your half design degree gives you the ability to understand so much more than you apparently can explain.

Last edited by gobsied; 11-04-2007 at 01:15 PM.
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