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Old 11-04-2007, 03:40 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by gobsied View Post
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Your qoute bolded out part of the qoute says

- "World of Warcraft is fundamentally an extremely good and exceptionally well-designed game".

- You say From a "professional/educated" standpoint WoW better designed and more solid than FFXI.

okay obviously your half design degree didn't do much for you in the way of english. The work you quoted from never said WoW is better designed and more solid than FFXI. Read carefully mr half design degree man.

"Nike is an exceptionally designed show" does not mean "Nike is designed better and is more solid than Timberlands"


2.
You admitted WoW has a crappy endgame, I wouldn't agree with that entirely. but you said getting to the cap is 1000s times more fun.

-By that we can assume that FFXI has a more solid endgame.
-I can go further to say FFXI has more content getting to end game than WoW does.

PVP aside. What aspects of WoW are more solid than FFXI really. Educate me, that's what people with degrees should do. There really is no redemtion for you after you said WoW has a really crappy endgame and grinding there is more 1000s times more fun.

3.

To quote you:
"No where did i say which grind is harder and for which game, or which one is more engaging or not. Grind in itself is an action/verb, it is mindless in nature. People often confuse killing a mob with Grind. Like you. Grind is never hard. A mobs difficulty has nothing to do with the act of grinding for levels. Gee, its not that hard to comprehend."

Your swaying back and forth more than Prez Bush because you have no basis for your argument. I am sorry but this is the dumbest and most contradictory thing I have ever quoted. Which is strange because I have quoted myself saying some really dumb things.

-Grind is never hard ~ FFXI is not very kind to the mindless button mashing mob rusher. If your party is stupid your grind will ALWAYS be hard.

-Grinding is mindless in nature ~ FFXI broke the mindless grinding, either that or FFXI has NO grind, which is hard to imagine because you say. "Every game has grind to an extent."

- A mobs difficulty has nothing to do with the act of grinding for levels. ~ Aparently the only exception is FFXI, Because your party has to adjust to each other and every mob type. If you have mixed mobs, you'd pull one kind depending on where u are in the chain. Depending on what the status of the mages mp and tanks health are. You'd have to adjust your fighting technique and sometimes skillchain by each mob. In FFXI the mobs difficult has EVERYTHING to do with the act of grinding for levels.

Everything u state are baseless 'in the air' claims, backed by a document which doesn't provide a reasonable foundation for your argument, and your tendency to call people idiots because your half design degree gives you the ability to understand so much more than you apparently can explain.
Okay, the whole tried and failed at a few concepts is utter bull.

CoP - This was the only failure.. and even then it's still awesome because only people who really put time and effort can complete the expansion. It failed because people want to use the new armor and whatnot they earned to help people out. Creating level limited areas kills that. That's the only concept that truly failed and even the development team admits it.

Besieged - This is a minor failure only due to the technical limitations of the ps2. Xbox 360 and PC suck when it comes to besieged however the PS2 can run it fine. If they would drop the ps2 format and work harder on Xbox 360 and PC optimizations I think besieged would be more fun and balanced. Releasing the 32fps cap and the 56kb/s cap would also be awesome if done right.

Button Mashing - Don't get me wrong I love this game.. but FFXI is just as bad with this as WoW if not worse.

Grind - FFXI is a grind, it gets easier 55+, but then you hit 75 and it gets worse.

Mob Difficulty - I wish they gave us more xp for the harder mobs. As of right now you get more xp chaining VT mobs quickly then you do killing IT++ every 2-3 minutes.
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