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Old 01-29-2008, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, new problem with the building of my computer. I have all the parts picked out with a lot of help from a couple people here, including a lot of help from Cingal, but after coming up with all the parts my dad wanted to be sure it'd all work together and be compatible before spending the money on it.

He took it to a local tech class to have the kids/teacher of the class look at it, as they use Newegg when they build their computers as well.

At first, they were shocked with the quad core and the 700w power supply, and immediately realized that I played a lot of games.

Now, what they told my dad, in paraphrasing, is;

"When you get the motherboard, memory, and the CPU put together and make sure they're compatible, the rest is just adding on. That's the base, and the most important part. Everything afterwards is easier."


Now, first off, here's the three parts for the base.

CPU –
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor HH80562PH0568M - 2.40GHz, 8MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Kentsfield, Quad-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor
- $260
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...IN#detailspecs


Motherboard –

- GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
- $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121059


Memory –
- G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1G 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
- $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098

Now, here's the concern they had. On the name of the CPU, which they recommended that I try to find on Newegg rather then Tigerdirect to make it easier, is that the clock speed is listed at being 1066MHz.

Then, on the memory, they were unsure but thought that the 800 after the SDRAM DDR2 was the clock speed for the memory.

Do the clock speeds on those two parts have to be the same to be compatible?




They also said something about the speed of the processor being much more then the RAM, defeating the real purpose of it. Any idea what that's all about?
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe they fear the processor is to much for the ram, and may over power it?..

I doubt it would happen.
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Anyways, Jakuza, it sounds like what they're saying about that is that even though the processor is fast, the RAM can't match it/support it, making it useless. Doubt it's true.
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I don't know why I laughed, but I did.
And I thought I would get headshot, but no, I'm not the only one.

About the RAM & CPU thing,
Never heard of it.
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I've never seen a case like that, anywhere. Those people are just stupid. :P

But, if we are wrong, get 4 gigs of mem. It won't hurt. :P
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I've never seen a case like that, anywhere. Those people are just stupid. :P

But, if we are wrong, get 4 gigs of mem. It won't hurt. :P
XP & Vista x32 can't handle anymore than 4G of RAM.
Only x64 or higher can.
Maybe that's what they're talking about ? x_x;

Or maybe they're just trying to sound smart.
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XP & Vista x32 can't handle anymore than 4G of RAM.
Only x64 or higher can.
Maybe that's what they're talking about ? x_x;

Or maybe they're just trying to sound smart.
In which their not!
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Ok, took me a few moments to understand what you were talking about, but I got a general idea now.

To put it simply, take it from a full computer tech, you completely miss-understood what they said, and don't understand the numbers.

Now, I'm getting a 404 with the tigerdirect page, but I think I found the same CPU on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017
Thats it, right?
Now, you pointed out that the clock speed was 1066MHz. You read the specs wrong. That IS NOT the clock speed. That is the Front-Side-Bus speed(ie: how fast the CPU can put data through the mobo). The clock speed is listed there under the term "Operating Frequency", and this number happens to be 2.4GHz.
Oh, and I noticed in the title that you copied from Tigerdirect on the CPU listed it as having an 8MB L2 cache. That is incorrect. The CPU has 2x4MB L2 cache. The difference is like the difference of either getting a single 2GB RAM stick, or getting two 1GB RAM sticks and putting it in dual-channel.(hint: the two 1GB sticks is faster). So, while I can't check their full page, sounds like they are not the best at listing the correct specs.


But, they probably suggested you buy the CPU from newegg because then you will save a bunch on shipping. See how much it would cost after shipping to go with one or the other.





Edit:
----------NVM, You posted the link to the wrong mobo, let me recheck with the right mobo---------------
Oh yea, just wanted to say, all of your parts there will work together. You should not have any issues at all.
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Ok, so considering that this is your motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...pk=GA-P35-DS3L

You are quite good off, though I'd suggest going with some different RAM. Here is the list of all the ram that is the most compatible.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...+Gaming+Memory

I suggest going with one of the top three, one of the two crucial or the corsair.
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Ahh, thanks for the help Fabian.

To be on the safe side, I switch the RAM from a DDR2 800 pair to a DDR 1066 set. It was in the list that you said would work best anyways, so even if it doesn't matter it's still better.

Also, this is the mobo;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121059

The one you listed was my earlier choice to save money, but then we cut the monitor so I upgraded to this as it's more upgradeable for SLI and such.

Would you recommend the other mobo? It seems a little better. 8 USBs instead of four, better customer reviews, etc.
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