Old 05-19-2008, 07:24 PM   #31 (permalink)
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650W+?!

I got a Q6600, MSI 8800GT, 2GB RAM with a Corsair 550W VX and it's running perfectly.
How many hard drives do you run? How many other drives do you have as well (bluray, dvd burner, etc).

All that other crap needs power too.

The 8800gt says 450w I believe minimum on the box. This doesn't mean that you can get away with 450w if you have tons of other crap.

I had to upgrade my power supply when I got an 8800gt. All the drives and stuff I had wouldn't run on the 450w.

Also, quality of the psu factors into the equation as well. A great 550w can run better than a cheap *** 650w....

Any way... you might as well get a 650w now as they are cheap, and will allow you to add in peripherals without upgrading the psu again should you choose to.

Everyone always thinks the most important part of a PC is the chip/ram/vid card. Sadly, the most important part of your computer is the power supply. A cheap or underpowered one can cause many issues and downgrades in performance.

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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its also good for gaming too

anyway get a simple rig... if you want an amd based..
amd 3.2 BE
ASUS m2n e sli deluxe
ultra case + power supply
2x 8600 fatality edition GT // 1 8800GT
a good 50$ cpu cooler..
2 gig ram croshair//ocz 2gig.

of course if you want the esay way out.. theres the barebone kit

@jaco - thats a network card to reduce your lag ingame.. if you have a decent ISP, this is not worth it unless you got the extra cash.
with that money id rather buy a sound card xfi.
wat the hell is amd-based? and wth is barebone kit? can u elaborate on that? my computer-hardware knowledge is up to par with a 10 year old...

i guess ill go with Arganius's build...calculated the total amount i would spend (including mail-in rebate, excluding a monitor), and it came out to be about $500. Which leaves me with $300 or so for a decent monitor.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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wat the hell is amd-based? and wth is barebone kit? can u elaborate on that? my computer-hardware knowledge is up to par with a 10 year old...

i guess ill go with Arganius's build...calculated the total amount i would spend (including mail-in rebate, excluding a monitor), and it came out to be about $500. Which leaves me with $300 or so for a decent monitor.
for a monitor.. if your into competitive first personn shooter.. i'd go with a CRT monitor as it has a faster reponse

a barebone kit comes with
mainboard
case
powersupply
ram

so all you need ot do i buy the cpu fan.. and the graphic card.. it's just to save time but w/e

amd build is a lot cheaper than intel build, but if you want the best thing out there.. intel is the way to go.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
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wat the hell is amd-based? and wth is barebone kit? can u elaborate on that? my computer-hardware knowledge is up to par with a 10 year old...

i guess ill go with Arganius's build...calculated the total amount i would spend (including mail-in rebate, excluding a monitor), and it came out to be about $500. Which leaves me with $300 or so for a decent monitor.
Amd-based just means that it uses amd processors instead of intel processors.

Arganius has a good build, but if you have the money, I would recommend getting a 8800GT 512 MB graphics card instead of the 9600GT. 8800GT outperforms 9600GT and it just costs $10-$30 dollars more.

This 8800GT is overclocked, has a zalman cooler, and comes with neverwinter nights for $10 more after rebate.
Newegg - 8800GT
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Amd-based just means that it uses amd processors instead of intel processors.

Arganius has a good build, but if you have the money, I would recommend getting a 8800GT 512 MB graphics card instead of the 9600GT. 8800GT outperforms 9600GT and it just costs $10-$30 dollars more.

This 8800GT is overclocked, has a zalman cooler, and comes with neverwinter nights for $10 more after rebate.
Newegg - 8800GT
arganius's build wont do good for me at all lol, i want the best.. sli mobo

if you have 1000$ and want to spend it all.. try going for a sli mobo
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:38 PM   #36 (permalink)
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One important thing, the E2160 might bottleneck the 8800/9600. You could overclock or upgrade to a better processor. I would recommend the E8400, if you are willing to spend the money on it. You could also get like a E6000 series processor.

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hmm...if i replace the processor to E8400 and graphics card to the 8800GT that you linked there...the price goes up to about $630 (given you send all the mail-in rebates). How about the PSU? Is 530W good enough to give power to these 2 high-tier parts? Or...will I need to upgrade to a better one?
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:34 AM   #38 (permalink)
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http://www.bfgstore.com/ProductDetai...de=BFGPERFBNDL

this link is a deal bfgtech is offering...

it comes with a 8800 gt oc and a 650W PSU all for 235 dollars....
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http://www.bfgstore.com/ProductDetai...de=BFGPERFBNDL

this link is a deal bfgtech is offering...

it comes with a 8800 gt oc and a 650W PSU all for 235 dollars....
Thats a pretty good deal too. You pretty much save about $40 compared to buying them separate. (at least compared to shop prices around here)

Also, someone suggested that you get an sli motherboard. Don't bother. For $1000 don't worry about sli...it doesn't give that big of a performance boost anyway.

Also, don't listen to the person that said go with a CRT monitor if you game(fps games and such). CRT is DEAD. Definitely get an LCD. What you want to do is get one with a decent response time. I have a 20.1 inch widescreen LCD with a 5ms response time (LG l204wt). It does not have any ghosting or anything that would be detrimental to gaming. Counter-strike is just as playable on this than my older CRT. Just make sure to read some reviews and such of the LCD you are buying too see if it is a decent gaming monitor. The l204wt is a decent monitor for the price. By now they probably have a few models higher than this which are probably even better.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:47 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I always thought this was a good monitor

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1196470439109


video review of it

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k6Qwkc0lLgo&feature=related
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