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TwitcH · 07-17-2006, 05:43 PM

I think VBScript has basicly taken out the need for BAT files nowadays, it's much more flexible and is just as easy to learn.

cederron · 07-22-2006, 01:37 AM

Jesus! this thread made me sick and i registered just to reply!

MS-DOS is not a programming language, not a scripting language, and not "the computer framework" :eek:
MS-DOS is an operative system, yea the first OS that bill g and a friend wrote. It has no graphical user interface so you need to type the commands you want to perform(Just like linux without the graphics stuff). BAT files are ms-dos commands written to a file that can be run consecutive, line by line, In fact, some boot disks that boot the computer with the ms-dos OS still are used.
Nowadays MS-DOS is a deprecated OS that is emulated by windows just to have some compatibility with old applications ( at my work place we still use some ms-dos applications but our OS is windows ), because ms-dos is(or was) an operative system you can delete files, format harddrive, partittion harddrive and all the stuff.

So everybody repeat with me:

Ms-DOS is an operative system without graphical user interface.
Nowadays it's deprecated but emulated by windows.
.Bat files are batch files that execute ms-dos commands.

If you want to feel ms-dos just do Start->Run->cmd and thats what people saw 15 years ago when they bootted up their computers. No windows!

Edit: for example 20 years ago to copy files to another directory you had to write "copy c:\*.* c:\newdir" that makes a copy of all the files in c: to directory "newdir". Because typing a lot of commands like this one could be time consuming .bat files where created to not need to type a lot of commands by hand. Nowadays I use it to make a backup of the programs i'm writing, I have a file in my desktop called "BackUp.bat" and contains this line "copy C:\programming\*.* F:\Backups /s /y". Whenever i want to make a backup of my files i just double click the file and it backups all the data to external drive f: . Just an example.

naruto1327 · 07-22-2006, 09:01 PM

That's what I'm trying to say!

XceeD · 07-25-2006, 07:20 PM

You basically repeated what I said :/...

Cj Shadows · 07-25-2006, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLM

Guess my explaining is not needed

Now go look up batch programming, stuff is damn useful, i've got a little .bat file on my desktop to show me what my IP is since it's dynamic

It's pretty handy, not destructive -.-

Although saying that I have seen a few bat script virus's, so yeah it's only dangerous if you intend it to be

I know what Ms-DOS is capable of doing...I revamped my comp with it.And i know one way its powerfull is because u can hack with it. And yea make viruses, u just need to know the hidden commands...

naruto1327 · 07-26-2006, 12:14 AM

The commands aren't meant to be hidden... It's like playing a game you've never played before.

Cj Shadows · 07-26-2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naruto1327

The commands aren't meant to be hidden... It's like playing a game you've never played before.

Yeah but I dont think they want you to know how to hack, and the commands you can use to hack with....

XceeD · 07-26-2006, 03:10 AM

You can't hack with just MS-DOS... you can hack with Telnet THEN use MS-DOS on the computer you hacked...
In short, you can't hack with MS-DOS!!!:mad:

Cj Shadows · 07-26-2006, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XceeD

You can't hack with just MS-DOS... you can hack with Telnet THEN use MS-DOS on the computer you hacked...
In short, you can't hack with MS-DOS!!!:mad:

................................
Okay u open up Ms-Does you either type in telnet and enter or type telnet IP Port Number Example: Telnet 10.8.99.88 81

TwitcH · 07-26-2006, 01:06 PM

MS-DOS doesnt even exist in newer operating systems, it has been replaced by a command line interface which is like MS-DOS called cmd.exe.

cmd.exe is an interface to give you access to commands such as telnet, netstat, ipconfig and lots lots more, most of which can be used for hacking or gathering useful information to help with hacking.

BAT files are just a way of taking these commands and running them one by one in a script like way, people have and still do exploit this to make viruses that will wipe entire harddrives or as a sneaky way to get the user to download trojans and backdoors. Other people will use it to make jobs such as telnetting to 10 different computers an easy task to do.

I dont think anything more on the subject needs to be said, unless I need correcting.

07-22-2006, 01:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
cederron Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2 Reputation: 10	Jesus! this thread made me sick and i registered just to reply! MS-DOS is not a programming language, not a scripting language, and not "the computer framework" :eek: MS-DOS is an operative system, yea the first OS that bill g and a friend wrote. It has no graphical user interface so you need to type the commands you want to perform(Just like linux without the graphics stuff). BAT files are ms-dos commands written to a file that can be run consecutive, line by line, In fact, some boot disks that boot the computer with the ms-dos OS still are used. Nowadays MS-DOS is a deprecated OS that is emulated by windows just to have some compatibility with old applications ( at my work place we still use some ms-dos applications but our OS is windows ), because ms-dos is(or was) an operative system you can delete files, format harddrive, partittion harddrive and all the stuff. So everybody repeat with me: Ms-DOS is an operative system without graphical user interface. Nowadays it's deprecated but emulated by windows. .Bat files are batch files that execute ms-dos commands. If you want to feel ms-dos just do Start->Run->cmd and thats what people saw 15 years ago when they bootted up their computers. No windows! Edit: for example 20 years ago to copy files to another directory you had to write "copy c:\. c:\newdir" that makes a copy of all the files in c: to directory "newdir". Because typing a lot of commands like this one could be time consuming .bat files where created to not need to type a lot of commands by hand. Nowadays I use it to make a backup of the programs i'm writing, I have a file in my desktop called "BackUp.bat" and contains this line "copy C:\programming\. F:\Backups /s /y". Whenever i want to make a backup of my files i just double click the file and it backups all the data to external drive f: . Just an example. Last edited by cederron; 07-22-2006 at 02:08 AM.

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07-17-2006, 05:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
TwitcH Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,053 Reputation: 14	I think VBScript has basicly taken out the need for BAT files nowadays, it's much more flexible and is just as easy to learn.

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naruto1327 Dante’s Inferno Join Date: May 2006 Location: OLD PROFILE. NEW: NOODLEPOWA Posts: 608 Reputation: 10	That's what I'm trying to say!

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07-26-2006, 01:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
TwitcH Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,053 Reputation: 14	MS-DOS doesnt even exist in newer operating systems, it has been replaced by a command line interface which is like MS-DOS called cmd.exe. cmd.exe is an interface to give you access to commands such as telnet, netstat, ipconfig and lots lots more, most of which can be used for hacking or gathering useful information to help with hacking. BAT files are just a way of taking these commands and running them one by one in a script like way, people have and still do exploit this to make viruses that will wipe entire harddrives or as a sneaky way to get the user to download trojans and backdoors. Other people will use it to make jobs such as telnetting to 10 different computers an easy task to do. I dont think anything more on the subject needs to be said, unless I need correcting.