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Old 07-24-2008, 08:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Great educational videos countering creationism

I found these videos that do what I could only think of a great idea....( yes there is alot but I want to include all of them in here for the laziest of people)
basically it counterattacks all of these statements made by creationists with valid facts
this is not a flame thread if you don't like what is being said please argue it with valid supported and credible facts not just mindless dribbling insults ( I am not a strawman for you to attack)



no need to watch all the videos, just start with a few ( if you are bored by science then you might not find this entertaining, but at least give it a try)
The person who made these videos does a great job and counters many people ( from regular youtuber to a people with PHDs....or so they say....)

The series is called why do people laugh at creationist
again I will say this is not a flame thread so keep the insults out
it is purely for educational purposes....


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Old 07-24-2008, 09:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Lol at Creationists i finished watching number 2.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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*Sigh*

Honestly, I have to tell you this, but


Most religious vs science threads often turn into either flames or heated debates.



but in all honesty, I still debate the credibility of the two.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Who cares about religion and science.
Like if we discover the meaning of life.

We like all say "ohhhh that was it, right"
And then we continue our lives.

Just enjoy life is my science and religion.
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Who cares about religion and science.
Like if we discover the meaning of life.

We like all say "ohhhh that was it, right"
And then we continue our lives.

Just enjoy life is my science and religion.
If it wasn't for science then you probably wouldn't have much of a life to enjoy. Read for five minutes of what life was like before science - in the Dark Ages - and then say life is just about "enjoying life." Being idealistic is great and all, but you have to have some realism as well.

Series looks interesting. I'll watch when I have time, but for now I'd just like to say - the problem is not a matter of creationists can't be beaten with facts (They are, every single day), it's that they do not accept facts as proof. The whole point of religion is that reality is ineffectual in an argument - faith is all.
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If it wasn't for science then you probably wouldn't have much of a life to enjoy. Read for five minutes of what life was like before science - in the Dark Ages - and then say life is just about "enjoying life." Being idealistic is great and all, but you have to have some realism as well.

Series looks interesting. I'll watch when I have time, but for now I'd just like to say - the problem is not a matter of creationists can't be beaten with facts (They are, every single day), it's that they do not accept facts as proof. The whole point of religion is that reality is ineffectual in an argument - faith is all.
That isn't true at all. I believe the science faith calls upon is the "working hands" that we were gifted to make things work.


I'm not quite sure what I think of technology, but science and faith could be very well interconnected somehow... Just as Adam and God was very well interconnected somehow (if i got that statement correctly)
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If it wasn't for science then you probably wouldn't have much of a life to enjoy.
Read for five minutes of what life was like before science - in the Dark Ages - and then say life is just about "enjoying life".
Being idealistic is great and all, but you have to have some realism as well.
Imagine we would live in the Dark Age wouldn't we say the same thing about earlier ages then?
After a couple of years the future generation will say the same thing about our generation.
But I was just saying that "finding the meaning of life etc",
isn't that usefull if you can't enjoy life.

I'm not saying I don't like science and changes of the world.
But we most remember that people will change also.
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I love me some science. I love me some God. Religion....not so much.

Honestly, the bible probably has been subjected to so many mistranslations and edits that it would take forever to count. Not to mention that the bible was written by man...and not God himself.

About the world flooding thing: I once remember reading (I'll try to find the source) the word that was translated to "world" could also be used for land (at a local level), nation, country, etc etc.

Why is one so offensive to the other?

It would take a couple of hours to sit here and type out all of my thoughts on the matter, so for now I'm gonna leave it at that.
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If it wasn't for science then you probably wouldn't have much of a life to enjoy. Read for five minutes of what life was like before science - in the Dark Ages - and then say life is just about "enjoying life." Being idealistic is great and all, but you have to have some realism as well.

Series looks interesting. I'll watch when I have time, but for now I'd just like to say - the problem is not a matter of creationists can't be beaten with facts (They are, every single day), it's that they do not accept facts as proof. The whole point of religion is that reality is ineffectual in an argument - faith is all.
You're right. Thanks to science we have retired folks(who would have otherwise passed away) living to the point where they can't even take care of themselves. Thanks to science the earth is being shat upon much faster than any religion could do. Thanks to science we have nuclear weapons which could very well end humanity so much better than nature itself ever could. Thanks to science there's another weapon to scare humanity into submission.(a la, science is always right. See Global Warming)

And why can you only look at the Dark Ages? You don't think there were times of ancient prosperity with a lacking of science? You don't think people can be happy closer to nature? Just because we've grown up spoiled to it, doesn't mean it would be painful to grow up without it. I love technology just as much as the next person, but don't tell me I couldn't live without it.

If creationism is such a joke, why take the time and effort to debunk it? Why care about the origin of life? What purpose does it serve? None. It doesn't help anyone to dwell on it, it won't unlock any secrets to the future.

Smug, superior complexed science worshippers are no better than self-righteous fanatics.
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You're right. Thanks to science we have retired folks(who would have otherwise passed away) living to the point where they can't even take care of themselves. Thanks to science the earth is being shat upon much faster than any religion could do. Thanks to science we have nuclear weapons which could very well end humanity so much better than nature itself ever could. Thanks to science there's another weapon to scare humanity into submission.(a la, science is always right. See Global Warming)

And why can you only look at the Dark Ages? You don't think there were times of ancient prosperity with a lacking of science? You don't think people can be happy closer to nature? Just because we've grown up spoiled to it, doesn't mean it would be painful to grow up without it. I love technology just as much as the next person, but don't tell me I couldn't live without it.

If creationism is such a joke, why take the time and effort to debunk it? Why care about the origin of life? What purpose does it serve? None. It doesn't help anyone to dwell on it, it won't unlock any secrets to the future.

Smug, superior complexed science worshippers are no better than self-righteous fanatics.
Firstly, you underestimate the effects on technology. People say "We could live without it, we could live well without the internet etc.", but what you don't realise is that the internet, just like a lot of technology, isn't just a new gadget that has come along and impressed us. A lot of technology has been so influential that the world has change the way it works AROUND these advances. There are entire ways of life that exist today, better ones, because technology exists. Saying "I could live without technology." is a bigger claim than just not using technology that you'd otherwise use by choice alone. A lot of survival, government, finance, science and everything else relies upon technology. Businesses rely upon it, businesses that people rely upon themselves.

You are confusing being able to literally survive without technology at a time when there was no knowledge of it, to being able to live as comfortable without it as you would with it, in 2008. Technology doesn't usually exist because we could do without it, it exists because of the precise opposite, its needed.

Secondly, I hate smug atheists as much as smug religious people, I'm with you there.

To me, creationism is so pathetic that it's honestly not worth my time. I don't understand why people would struggle so hard to debunk it, when it debunks itself. There's proof to suggest it isn't true, like the bible being contradictory to dinosaurs, so why even bother?

It's like arguing with someone who has tried to deny the holocaust, why bother? They're idiots.
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