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Old 07-26-2008, 11:23 PM   #41 (permalink)
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isn't that what netneutrality is all about =o

Are these guys french or english? o.o

EDIT: lol yeah they are canada/french DD

I'm french, sounds like my accent o.o

EDIT2: anyways this is stupid, its never going to happen.
I'm pretty sure they're Belgian.
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:28 AM   #42 (permalink)
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make sure to download enough p*rn for a life-time, before it all gets limited.


seriously, that dude to the right of the chick makes stupid/funny videos on youtube. and if anyone remember, she is the chick that you could "get laid" with for free(if you did something, don't remember)... the scam...

they mess around ALL the time.

but, IF we pretend it will happend, I'd protest...
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:41 AM   #43 (permalink)
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We are supposed to be on a shortage of IPs, and I believe my Dad mentioned something about us running out in the near future, but I honestly don't think that would be a problem.

Besides, scientists are working to try and create a new internet; with less TUBES!


EDIT: And for the people who're saying they'd protest, it wouldn't do you ANY good. If this does happen, it's the companies that will have to shut down because they're not making enough money to support their massive servers, hence they shutdown. It's not like they just give up and leave.
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if so, can't they just expand the servers? Internet is just really a connection from one computer to another

computer->->->-Server-<-<-<-computer
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:54 AM   #45 (permalink)
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if so, can't they just expand the servers? Internet is just really a connection from one computer to another

computer----Server-----computer
No, because there won't be any IPs left to connect the computer too.

When the internet was originally created, I guess you could say, there were a multitude of IPs created with it for specifically designed regions. Now, since we're running out, countries are hoarding them for their own use.

Not to mention Youtube. They use so much ****ing bandwidth it's not even funny, so they need more servers and more IP connections to run. In fact, I think Youtube is number 1 on the list of top IP users, or whatever they call that list...


EDIT: Also, we can't just create more IPs as far as I'm aware.
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:08 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I don't thin kthe internet can die, unless somone find a way to like stop everyone from connecting to it in the first place.

Just think about when people tried shutting piratebay down, or the anon war on scientology. The fact is that "everyone" uses the internet. The power of the internet is the masses, and the people out there who actually know their way around the software and hardware of computer technology(aka hackers, nerds etc etc).
If people try going facist on the internet, then they'll have to deal with all the people who'll go rampage on them if they try. That's a lot of people. And amongst those people there are people who know what they're doing who do not belong to software and broadband companies.
As I see it, the internet seems to have become like a living entity of itself - I don't think it can be controlled. Maybe they can "kill" it by completely shutting it down, but as long as there is something like the internet, I believe it's impossible, or close, to control it properly.

Damn, I would like to formulate this better, but I've had a tiny tiny bit to drink tonight so all my focus goes into actually writing this without major spelling mistakes. Please excuse me if this is lacking.
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I don't thin kthe internet can die, unless somone find a way to like stop everyone from connecting to it in the first place.

Just think about when people tried shutting piratebay down, or the anon war on scientology. The fact is that "everyone" uses the internet. The power of the internet is the masses, and the people out there who actually know their way around the software and hardware of computer technology(aka hackers, nerds etc etc).
If people try going facist on the internet, then they'll have to deal with all the people who'll go rampage on them if they try. That's a lot of people. And amongst those people there are people who know what they're doing who do not belong to software and broadband companies.
As I see it, the internet seems to have become like a living entity of itself - I don't think it can be controlled. Maybe they can "kill" it by completely shutting it down, but as long as there is something like the internet, I believe it's impossible, or close, to control it properly.

Damn, I would like to formulate this better, but I've had a tiny tiny bit to drink tonight so all my focus goes into actually writing this without major spelling mistakes. Please excuse me if this is lacking.
Well, that's exactly the thing. Even if the ISPs start to crumble, then guess who's gonna come in and monopolize it for the masses? The state governments. They'll come in and buy servers, put them in regional locations, pay the upkeep and make people happy because they benefit as much from the internet as we do.

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Well, that's exactly the thing. Even if the ISPs start to crumble, then guess who's gonna come in and monopolize it for the masses? The state governments. They'll come in and buy servers, put them in regional locations, pay the upkeep and make people happy because they benefit as much from the internet as we do.

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Well, in that case, who is to stop private people with cash from making their own "internet"? No matter how you try to kill the internet, the technology is out there, and the masses are out there. Isn't this kinda like the private servers versus retail servers debate? As long as that is the case you can never really monopopilze it. It's kinda how you can never stop illegal copying of products. Music can be recorded, designs can be copied etc.

The only way the free internet can die, is if a government body manages to establish complete control over the current internet, and then make it illegal to create or use substitutes.
However, for a goverment body to do this they must first make meassures to keep watch of and keep control of internet access. However, the moment such meassures are taken, the people with the knowledge and skills will immidately launch countermeassures, like with the piratebay.

I don't think it's likely that it will ever succeed really...
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Well, in that case, who is to stop private people with cash from making their own "internet"? No matter how you try to kill the internet, the technology is out there, and the masses are out there. Isn't this kinda like the private servers versus retail servers debate? As long as that is the case you can never really monopopilze it. It's kinda how you can never stop illegal copying of products. Music can be recorded, designs can be copied etc.

The only way the free internet can die, is if a government body manages to establish complete control over the current internet, and then make it illegal to create or use substitutes.
However, for a goverment body to do this they must first make meassures to keep watch of and keep control of internet access. However, the moment such meassures are taken, the people with the knowledge and skills will immidately launch countermeassures, like with the piratebay.

I don't think it's likely that it will ever succeed really...
I didn't mean that the government would monopolize it, per se, but you get my meaning. They'll keep the internet for plenty of reasons.

And it's true, if this did happen, you could own your own server. You can right now, and with this fiasco, it'd be even easier and probably even more common for people to do it.
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