thebuddybud

I think you are forgetting it's called closed beta test. That being said, we tested it and we hated it and are giving our response. And why should we even compromise to a stupid system anyway? ANY variation of the system at all is making the game less enjoyable then what it should have been. And if you want to play the game with an inexcusable system go ahead, but next time don't go around telling people what they should or shouldn't do.

Mordar

1.- People don't party anymore because they simply don't wanna sacrifice their stamina points for anyone else, wasn't this stupid system supposed to PROMOTE party and community gameplay?

2.- To level up, to see end-game content, to actually be anything you need to grind, one way or another you HAVE to grind, with stamina that's no more, meaning you are lvl 10 now as you are tomorrow because you don't even have a slight chance of leveling at all

3.- I also wonder if they are gonna put those "stamina drinks" in the cash shop, meaning they will charge a high price to it, forcing you to actually pay 2 times more than you pay monthly on games like LOTRO, WoW or even CoH/V

these are 3 of the main issues I see most people are complaining, I don't have a problem if they put a limit in the number of playing hours and avoid botting and no-life grinders players, but the stamina system it's just stupid as hell, even people that play casually don't have a chance AT ALL to actually see end game content, just look at how much does it take in a f2p mmorpg to reach end-game and most of those people are what?, no-lifers, now take all those grindfest f2p and introduce a "stamina system", that's a kill right there for casuals (me included) that won't even get to be competitive at all in any area of the game

AbysmalGuilt

I don't know what world you live in, but you obviously think this company has money to throw away to keep their servers open for you to play a game COMPLETELY free. You assume there are people out there that just want to devote hours of their time and hard effort, just so you can play their game for free and they don't make a damn dime because they don't have a life of their own, family to feed, etc. This is as UNINTRUSIVE of a cash dependant system that I can think of, if you don't even slightly need it, no one is gonna pay for it. And you can tell me all about exp pots and clothing like Latale or what have you, but this system isn't just to make you pay, it also knocks out a few problems that every mmorpg tries to eliminate.(IE, bots and some even like to suggest playing less)

And learn to read if you assume I'm TELLING people what to do, I wasn't telling anyone shit, I was merely saying you don't NEED to play for 20 hours so stop bitching that you wouldn't be able to. I could give less of a shit if you do, but that's the beauty of the system, you have the option of playing it a reasonable amount of time a day (which only limits your gaining of exp and items through battles, so technically you can still play all feckin day.) or you can play it for as long as you want as long as you buy the stam potions. This does not hinder ANY THING other than the length of time that you can grind, greed aside.

This system actually makes me consider giving Atlantica a try once it goes OB. Gave my key away for the CB because it didn't interest me enough after all.

1. Help them fix that instead of just complaining.

2. This is about the best point you could bring up with the system, but I don't see how this could pose a huge problem seeing as you get to fight up to 100 battles (or many many more) a day, 50 battles after lvl 51 (which is probably near end game, and this should be changed to give more stamina points per day, unless they are difficult but provide a good exp bar boost) Which you could also suggest them give 150 or so points past 51 since it takes more to level.

3. They probably are going to put them in the cash shop, but for now it mention something about mentor points, is there a mentoring system in the game? It could very well be expensive but at the same time, you could always make suggestions like have it come with multiple hits instead of just a single because it would be absurd, to say, charge 5$ for one day reset or however it works. Or have the potion instead of resetting points, grant the user immunity to stam loss for a set number of hours.

Oh and by the way, casual players have never had an outstanding ability to reach end game content in these games and most free mmorpg lack endgame content anyways.

I don't know, I don't need to tell you how to resolve your problem. I'm wasting my time. Good luck

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Redhunter12

1)If pll pay=more updates better game.
2)This is anti no-life.
3)That thing about party is good becuz i hate party
and what i hate is bad.
4)This stamina is fun.

Haku_Honjo

People are happy paying for a subscription that gives them 100% access to everything, that means NO CASH SHOP with a sub. Stamina is just that, its subscription based if you actually wanna get anywhere and you have a cash shop. Clever loop hole, but I call it a jerk move.

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Redhunter12

Is only that stamina drink in cash shop than is it good....
This is better than a super sword in cash shop that pwns all

Mofo

Actually.........NO!

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Redhunter12

Dude it is look that cash shop thing is like on rohan
Cash shop char=best pvp char.

Mordar

bad troll it's bad, 1/10

dude, what do you do if you want something to be done about something you don't like?, complain and give suggestion that's the EXACT same thing people are doing on the forums but you DO know and HAVE experience in how much of suggestions do companies take do you?, look at rohan for example, that's a great example right there, people complained, GAVE suggestions, actually told them "please don't do that" and look it there, Rohan which actually had lots of promise it's now a game down the drain full of stupid botters and goldsellers, and that's what people DON'T want to see happening on atlantica, because love it or hate it, the game it's freaking great and kick-ass

MoonSoul

I have an urge to call you a retard, but I'll refrain from doing so because you didn't test it so you're assuming...on the other hand, I should call you stupid for doing so.

First of all, the community was already amazing, I was in a party during 90% of my time in CBT1

The stamina system totally ruined this tho, why?
Because even tho in a party the party members wont lose stamina, the leader will and that created the mentality "MY STAMINA, BITCH" as I said before

Result?
I haven't found a party in my whole CBT2 and everyone is stressing ig about it

Another thing, how the fuck does it reduce bots? are you even thinking?
All you have to do is create more and more accounts.....a lot more accounts, this will FLOOD us with bots.

And your argument about how much some people play, seriously, its their life how is that an issue to YOURS, you don't HAVE to race against them, with time you'll get to the same spot they are in both lvl and gear so what's really the issue here?
We don't need a second mother, in fact, not even they benefit from us playing their game for less amounts of time, so, wtf??


I don't blame them for wanting to make a few bucks, but do you seriously think they'll make more money by losing 90% of their players by keeping the system?
Quite the contrair, people that already were planning in using their cash shop now think that this new feature is nothing more nothing less to force them to use something they would've gladly used for other stuff without being imposed to them.

Let me tell you the cons of this system and how poorly it was thought

In Atlantica there's a nifty lil system which allows you to gather info on monsters up to 3 ranks, each rank increases the drop rate and decreases the damage you take also boosting the damage you make

Now, the catch is...the info doesn't come easy, sometimes you MIGHT get the first rank info from the very first mob you kill, but to get all the 3 ranks you WILL waste all of your stamina, how so?
Stamina limits you to 100 battles, after that it doesn't pay off to battle because you'll get no exp and no drops but if you do die, you WILL lose exp and money

Another thing is farming for crafting
With stamina...being a crafter will be stressing as hell, and there wont be many people willing to be one thus killing yet another great/fun feature of the game.

Upgrading mercs
Right from the start you'll need 50 ashen crystals to upgrade your lvl 20 merc, now....by the time you'll probably have 5 mercs to update...and ashen crystals don't drop by the tons and since each battle counts...
It will takes ages JUST for the first upgrade, on the second the number of crystals needed rises to 100 PER merc

Not to mention that higher grade mercs will need their own particular, rarer crystals.

there's a lot more things I could think off but seriously, I'm tired of typing this wall of text and EVEN after I did there will still people sadomasochist enough to want the stamina system just because they want to halt everyone's elses progress just because they have more spare time...-facepalm.jpg-

My point is, you'll have to PLAN everything you'll be doing, not being able to multi task between the game's features because you'll be too worried about running out of stamina, making the game hella stressing and I don't know about you but I play games for fun.

Also I forgot to mention just how you get stamina back, through pvping in free league tournaments that only happen from Xhour to Xhour and in which the winner is the one that pulls his scrolls off first and that to get 3, YES, 3 stamina points per victory...(do you know HOW slow it will be to replenish it?)

The alternative mean is to mentor people and through the points you get from mentoring XXXX people buy stamina potions, well...we'll have mentors with XXXXXXXXXXXXXX pupils but not really giving an F** about any of them.


Now if you'll excuse me, I think ima go puke out of dizzyness of typing all this.

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