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Berrybenya
07-13-2006, 06:06 AM
making a gun char guide for you people interested in gun chars aka lion. if you are a fox dont go to the gun characters path you will regret.before the game comes out :P i will edit it when they release map name and monster names *laughs* if there is a typo please tell me i was in a hurry :( "made hurry bold for you blind users *laughs some more*
Basics
1.dexterity gives attack power (like maple story archer)
2.dexterity highers when dexterity level is increased 4levels at a time 1 dexterity is 20 gun damage.
3. 1 guns attack does 1 damage (just incase you wanted to know)
4. Lucky Seven skill is a must to learn (Lev.50+ it highers Luck% meaning it will let you block alot of monsters attack and do more critical hits)
5.Raising Gunners needs alot of patience.
enough with the basics :mad:
6.there is no such stat that highers gun delay speed its already fast enough anyway. :)
Graph&Stats
type1.Power 4 Sense 4 (Sense is purple Power is red)
If your a real man its one-shot one-kill 4power 4sense!! (dun matter if your a girl :P) [ps. im talking about you dying in one hit *laughs*]
type 1 is good on dealing alot of damage while hunting!
but if you have chosen power 4... the stinkiness of the 1 charm... >_<
its a pain in the *** having Low Health,Low Defense,and Low Dodge Rate! If you just started on a gun char it might be a little hard.. well if you have 3800cash some how you can buy the white tiger helm for Lev.50 it has 70 defense and some hp anyways you can mod it 3 times with hp-up items along with Chocolate necklace Lev.75 attack 80 (doesn't count if your a gun char) Dex 3 health 600) would cover the disadvantage of power4 sence4. i rate this type 8/10 :)
type2.Power 3 Charm 2 Sense 4
If you want to hunt with a little more safely this is a good enough graph if we compare the damage with power 4 it shouldn't really have alot of damage difference but you have enough defense dodge and health. i rate this type 7/10 :)
type3. Power 2 Charm 3 Sense 4
If you are new to trickster this graph will be fine for you you do not die easily and you still deal a little damage lets say this graph would be annoying if you played trickster before. i rate this 5/10 :o
type4. Power 1 Charm 4 Sense 4
Ah... Finally! Charm 4 sense 4!! has awfully lots of health tons of defense and lots more dodge rate :) People say this type graph is a flower lol.
well this type will be really hard until you learn the skill power-shot since you are really weak but when you're against boss or 1v1 and Guild Wars you will have Good enough Tankness in you! Mobbing Fun! bad part is you need to have 60 levels of TM to learn power shot but you need patience for a perfect character so i rate this 10/10 :cool:
alright thats it for the types
Leveling
Gun Characters have tons of Advantages but isn't really a loved char in trickster because the Character Guide is hard to make perhaps? lmao well until you learn power-shot you must click like mad lol don't forget your bullets ( ew i heard bullets are 10 gelders in eto stinks doesnt it?)
lets start now
just do tutorial for 50 sets of hp and mp potions.
Lev.1~10 DRILL MADNESS RAWR (while drilling you may earn items make sure
you only sell useless items most of them are quest items so stay alert.)
Lev.10~20 well you may drill till Lev.15 after your level 15 you may go buy a skill card from this Nerd in town o.o called Gun Posession after Lev.15 you can use guns :) then go buy tons of bullets and fire at the pineapples :p if your in Desert Beach. if You are in Blue Mingo or whatever (actaully its Cora Beach) you can go fight Blue fish o.O ill edit this and find out the monsters later since i don't know their new names.
Lev.20~30 well if you have 2500 cash you can go buy a Flicker Drill a drill for Lev.20+ you can level up super quick @_@;; if you have Flicker Drill drill until Lev.60+ :P if not just go to ghost blue by exiting at north exit of Cora beach then
going to 2 maps north then you will be in this weirdo dungeon and you will
see monsters around the 20s go beat em up madly xD or you can head to
ghost blue. which can be accessed by that cave if you are in desert beach
why not talk to the blue made and teleport to desert beach entrance now
talk to the blonde and teleport to ghost blue talk to the blue maid again
she will teleport you to aquarium go north and beat up monsters there till
25 and move on to next map in there o.o you may do monster quests in
aquarium xD or the quest that is received by blonde person at ghost blue
where you beat up the screwed up eyeball monster o.o;; well at level 25
there are two scary quests :O Nora bottle quest (will rename because its not the real name lol) you need 5 of them for 80k exp so basically you will be around
35 when you finish it so you should have alot of Dex raised by then. it was
4000gelders at first but raised to 10000gelders ouches XD anyways you can
get them by beating up Nora series - Nora Joe (small green alien) Nora Mummy(name tells you all) Nora big (a huge one xD) i prefer Nora Joe since hes easy
mummy is strong than big when big is 30~40 levels higher than mummy
funny huh o.o;; and mummys are strong to guns which is scary lool even my
gun char dies in one hit if i have no hp sets on.. alright to get to Nora dungeon you must buy a card key at an item shop at any town lol then go
west of aquarium you will see this guy in white called don juvani or whatever
talk to him and press first option and head in the dungeon this is where you
drill if flicker drill by the way. 200meters to drill here >_>;; more meters the better experience*laughs* but this can only be done when quests come out
so thats a bummer you can just get them for your "next char" if they ever
had the quests fast enough. next quest is leaf bird quest monster quest
perhaps i don't know where you get it from through I'm thinking megaro polis
through anyways after you do that you will be around Lev.48 this is easy
because the bird is weak against guns :)
Lev.30~40 when you get a little higher you get a different monster quest
if not go to ghost blue and just beat up ghost pirates and stuff till you get
high enough for that quest (while doing it you will get quest items from him
also the mermaid gives quest items along with that green fish guy xD) you
can teleport with the blonde to megaro and go south west and beat up bugs
if you get bored of ghost blue you can do monster quests from lovely hunter
he gives TM quests as usual popo <- are at south east if you are 20+
to do that quest.
Lev.40~50 you can move onto next map to kill monsters there or go back to ghost blue. or you can go to oops vudu and hunt gangsters *theres a quest
where you can beat blue gangsters* you should be around 60s when you
finish this through also TM quest in ghost school *hides* 5 times o.o;; from
this level you can go beat up ghosts *the students* they give alot of tms
and their wooden pencils are quest items
Lev.50~60 at this level if you had Flicker Drill it might have lost endurance well Don't Forget to Finish Quests for your Level this level you may do Quests and level or even go to the south west map then head straight west you will see Metal Turtle, walrus/cat/Tiger thing o.O;; a bear and some other monster LOL :/ hunt here for a bit same thing above its pretty good :)
Lev.60~70 you are close! almost!! power-shot is waiting for you! If you are nuts go hunt Big Nora in Nora Dungeon with using Nora Card Key when your in Ghost Blue. if you arnt nuts probably try fighting YamuQueen in Megaro Polis South East. no I'm joking that pink squirrel is no use level 36 only *laughs*
around this level you can go keep beating up garlys if your TM isn't level 50
yet make sure you have partys its useful more exp xD (if you have a only guy
character party with no share you will get 2.5x exp or the royal party of different type of chars(power sense charm and magic the other two can be
any which is 2.5x as well)
Lev.70~80 Finally you get Power-shot! :) satisfied? :P Hunt in Arazone till Lev.80
Lev.80~90 you will get passed this Lev quick well go try TengoQuest and and this other quest lol tengo quest gives 700000 Exp and you can do it 25times.
Lev.90~100 you are coming close! GunChar's 2nd Flower ! Nansa (ill edit it later lol)
now 100 blue pots you used decreases to 50 about? and your hunting speed should have increased TONS :P Never Forget Monster Quest and Tm Highering Quests
Lev.100~110 yippee Nansa Learned Congrats to you :) if you are 4charm 4 sense you can go to the Machine Factory. if not go Party or Solo (i dun care!) and Fight Huge Noras they are Lev.100 or 110 i think :P
Lev.110~120 meh do all the monster quests you didn't do sand Hunt in Santa Bear-zone
Lev.120~130 Megalopolis monster Quest 3100000Exp and you can do it 25times remember! so you can get to Lev. 130 quickly
Lev.130~140 Now The Dreamland Hunting Grounds Machine Factory RULED OVER YOU :P go mob hunting so you level up madly with tons of money maybe we don't need words for that excitement! :) don't forget monster quests!
140+ Machine Factory. END :( FOR NOW THO
GUN CHARS MOST IMPORTANT ACCESSORY RHYTHM EARINGS! its like a gun chars life no matter what happens you cannot ignore this item :(
ChocoLove Necklace- has options that gun chars cant miss 600health 3dex
ARMORS
get defensive items like the level 10 band and level 20 band at beginning
Metal Band - 80 defense really good :)
Santa Band - awsome 60def and 300 or so hp (only can be earned by event
it is said to be that this item is suppose to disappear at January but thats
just a legend xD)
Marble Belt - this is fine if you are 4 beauty this has 4luck 4 dodge
...
SKILLS
Well the skills to master or learn in order is
Gun Posession->Basic Marksmanship(master)->Absolute Loading->Loading on the Move->10 hitting a rock->1 Armour Destruction->Lucky Seven(master)->power-shot(master)->Multishot(nansa in korean version)(master)->Mysterious Pouch(master *its not a must through* since you get alot of weight anyway)->Doubleshot is a master its like shooting two powershots at once :P
there isn't much of a difference in damage with 4charm vs 4power infact 4power would lose against 4charm since more hp the longer
you stay alive. so why not try 4charm?
I'm sorry for the noobness this post had LOL like i said before i was in a hurry *laughs* cool there are some maps introduced as long as
some monsters lol ill edit this post later i am too lazy right now xD
posted the topic from free mmorpg since some people might want this lol. i know its not really in order or anything :P who cares xD im too lazy to edit it.
Addition!
Guns
level 20 Wood gun (can be found by drilling at a map in ghost blue screenshot is below)
before i post the screenshot this one isnt the regular wood gun it has 1 dex meaning
you will do 20 damage more than your self using the regular wood gun :P
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5726/1ws0.png
level 40 classic gun ( this one can be found by drilling the bathroom in ghost school first you have to go to oops vudoo or whatever >_>;
to get there. but it will be easier to earn in nora dungeon. you can drill there (red circles show you were to drill) or kill nora mummys
(purple circle shows where they are) as you see it gives 2 dex and 83 attack meaning you will do 123 attack you can skip guns
till level 70 since level 60 gun will only be 2 damage stronger.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3398/3ct5.png
level 70 metal gun ( can be earned by monsters level 100 - Captin Skull and level 102 - cameleon frog )
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1092/13vo4.png
note: cameleon frog also gives paper ( colored ) orgame paper :P that lets you mod your equips (it raises dex 3 minuim 9 at max for a level 70 weapon) this wont work for guns unless its a cash gun or a special gun =P ) captin skull can be found by talking to the card girl
at 4th field of oops vuuduu 6th o clock direction you must give her one master po card so lets forget about captin skull hes scary anyway cameleon frog in the other hand can be accessed with out cards and so fast. in Swamp zone field fields 1,2,3 oh yeah he also
gives level 70 shuriken ^0^;; it has 140 attack :P and the level 70 gun isnt a normal one as well it has 4 dex and 146 attack meaning
you will do 226 damage ^0^
level 80 stainless gun o_O;; it has 4 dex and 166 attack :P remember 1 dex is 20 attack ^0^;; of course this isnt the normal stainless gun i just dont know the nickname for it through :P *like sharp,old* etcetc. anyways this can only be earned by drilling in ghost school floor 2 *the stairs for floor 2 is at floor 1 close to bathroom by the green lady * this place is pretty annoying to drill the monsters are
kind of fast :P useful when you have the drill skill (the skill that makes you drill even when you get attacked)
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/763/1252qw0.png
theres also a shop in here you can buy balloon level 15 shuriken etcetc.
level 90 [Master] Titan gun :P this one has 5 dex and 212 attack but you can mod dextarity same with master stainless gun
but i dont think its worth it modding master stainless gun so i skiped the master for stainless gun sorry. actually the stat options
and mod uses are random (scary lol) level 229 boss monster drops this one
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2624/12gq4.png found at swamp zone dungeon 7 he gives alot of equips uses 4 skills and
he can summon since he is a "boss monster" anyway lol.
thats it for now.
Shinkonfy
07-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Hey nice guide but may i know wat is Tm
Must i put all stat to dex when i lvl up?is there speed/hp or other ability i must put too?
For the sense/power/charm thing when should i put it?or u just choose it when u create character?
Btw the skills that u didnt put (master),must i just put 1 point in it and not maxed?
Thx
hiw do u get theis "flicker drill"?
Berrybenya
07-14-2006, 06:47 AM
Hey nice guide but may i know wat is Tm
tm is like a job level. you get tm exp each time you kill a monster or success in drilling or even winning during a card game.
Must i put all stat to dex when i lvl up?is there speed/hp or other ability i must put too?
it is a must to put all stats into dex. no other just dex.
For the sense/power/charm thing when should i put it?or u just choose it when u create character?
you choose it when you create a character.
Btw the skills that u didnt put (master),must i just put 1 point in it and not maxed?
yes. hitting a rock must be lv.10 through so you can raise lucky seven.
(can be done later)
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how* do u get this* "flicker drill"?
this drill is a cash item that is 2500 cash at korean version. i hope its the same price in the english version. (suddenly its 10000 cash LOL)
shadow__6
07-14-2006, 01:45 PM
wow nice guild berry but you see for Graph&stats how many points do you get in the begining? is it 8 ? or 9 ? im sorta confused
you said ''type1.Power 4 Sense 4 (Sense is purple Power is red)''
thats only 8 points the other types have 9 ?
btw berry how many status points you'll get when you lvl?
Shinkonfy
07-14-2006, 03:44 PM
Oo thx for replying. Does trickster has any other things to do beside pvp,cards,drilling,train? IS there any quest that a party can do together ?
Berrybenya
07-15-2006, 05:31 AM
you get 10 graph points but cant lower anything to 0 you cant lower one type
to 1 if its your type example your a lion your sense type must be at 4 and you can use charm or attack to be 4. you get 4 stats per level.
you can hunt boss monsters together but quests to do with people? no.
there may be one when the developers think they need some lol.
no idea what that meant berry, no idea.
Shinji342
07-16-2006, 03:27 AM
Sry if this is kinda noob^^; but could i know which stat is dex for the bonus stats... like which row in the different attributes....
(ex:sense:1st row)
sry again... the stats description is kinda confusing on the fansite ^^;
im in the hangame.jp version 1st server
IGN:Sensetsu
Berrybenya
07-17-2006, 06:56 AM
attack:red 2nd stat
flamer4ever
07-23-2006, 03:21 PM
ns guide :D
dacrazedazn
07-23-2006, 11:51 PM
uhhh is the build for 1144 good at pvp and if i did choose that build wat do i put my bonus stats too...
netkat
07-24-2006, 10:49 AM
what about 3142 or 2143?:confused:
Razelis
07-24-2006, 10:47 PM
Berrybenya, Is there a chance you make another guide for charm type? :X
Thanks in advance~
dacrazedazn
07-25-2006, 03:26 AM
Razelis get outta here your not a lion.....!!! lol jking i don't know, go to http://www.trickstermart.com/ it has alot of info and i thought i saw a charm guide somewhere there. XD
Berrybenya
07-25-2006, 04:38 AM
uhhh is the build for 1144 good at pvp and if i did choose that build wat do i put my bonus stats too...
all type of gun char builds raises all points into dex. i repeated this many times. and yes 1144 is the best at pvp and guild wars. they are perfect after they learn powershot (1st job advancement skill at tm level 60)
dacrazedazn
07-25-2006, 05:10 AM
sorry for being a newb again, but dex is known as which bonus stat uhhh hitrate? >.<
Flyojumper
07-25-2006, 06:09 AM
Wait a second, this is confusing, according to this :
http://tricksters.50webs.com/creation.html
The third purple stat (luck) is the one that affects gun hit rate, the second red stat (hit rate) seems to be for melee weapon, so why would gunners put points in it?
Also, is it the first red stat that affects gun dmg or does it only affect melee dmg?
dacrazedazn
07-25-2006, 06:32 AM
i guess it is luck that gives gun attack o.O
Berrybenya
07-25-2006, 10:20 AM
no its not. -.- its dextarity. 2nd stat on red bar. luck is for hitting a rock and shuriken toss where have you been when i was explaining that in other posts? =/ luck does not increase gun damage. dextarity does. =.=
enjoyincubus
07-25-2006, 11:07 AM
what about bosses?
is 1144 good for bosses?
dacrazedazn
07-25-2006, 05:17 PM
Yes.... you tank the crap out of them o.O
enjoyincubus
07-26-2006, 02:26 PM
ok..umm how does the looting system goes when a boss is killed
through most damage dealt?
Berrybenya
07-26-2006, 08:23 PM
English please
dacrazedazn
07-26-2006, 09:14 PM
berrybenya do you happen to know how to do the constant critical glitch?
enjoyincubus
07-27-2006, 01:17 AM
English please
im asking how the looting works
like when you kill a boss monster, what will determine the outcome of getting the loots?
through most damage that you deal?
or last hit?...etc
Berrybenya
07-27-2006, 04:48 AM
i dont pay attention to glitches :P
there nothing different with bosses and regular monsters bosses just use many spells while monsters uses 0 ~ 1 skill -_-
dacrazedazn
07-27-2006, 06:09 AM
berry if your only adding to hit rate then you won't have high critical dmg.... so you only focus on base damage?
Berrybenya
07-27-2006, 06:20 AM
ignore those fan sites that has those stat things. all dex no matter what. lol
honeycream
07-27-2006, 06:23 AM
does the damage done by a skill (eg. power shot) depend on the strength (or power) of the character? As in, will a 4114 do more damage than a 1144 due to its higher power 4? If yes, will the difference be negligible or significant?
Also could anyone explain this? From http://tricksters.50webs.com/creation.html
The proficiency rating forms a ratio to determine how fast your character moves up in abilities. In general, a proficiency rating of 4 on an area means that for every four levels your character attains, this skill area will have increased 4 times. A proficiency rating of 3 means that for every four levels, this area will have increased 3 times. This is always out of four levels, so in essence, an area with proficiency of 1 will increase at only 1/4 the speed of an area with proficiency of 4.
If i understand correctly, it means that you will get more points in the stats with higher starting points (eg. power 4) than those with less (eg. magic 1)
Hence wouldn't 4114 builds have higher dex as they get more points to put into power (red) as compared to the 1144 build?
edit: also, how much damage does critical hit do as compared to normal hit? 2x?
Will increasing luck improve critical chance much?
edit 2: What stat does digging depend on? Also, are drills available ingame other than from cash shop? (eg. monster drop, npc shop)
sorry for the trouble, and thanks in advance.
Berrybenya
07-27-2006, 01:04 PM
pay attention to the first post. i just said in that first post that guns damage
is decided by your gun attack and dextarity (stats and equipment stats "some specially accessories and guns have dex")
no, 4114 is just a little bit more stronger due to having more dex. but you will die so fast. basicly one hit from almost every monster (exept the newbie monsters) so thats why you should go 1144 critical hit is based on critical damage but you must raise dex only unless you want to be even weaker. i dont mind if you mess up your stats. digging success rate is based on sense but lions dont raise sense unless you want to use daggers and shurikens but if you want to use daggers and shurikens and drill why not use
a fox instead. yes you will get more stat points if its 4114 the 4s will get 4 and 1 will get 1 bar. well it may be because of my luck i guess it is 1x -_- it maybe 2x but for me it feels like 3x or maybe im weird :P cash drills help you level way faster. you can buy regular drills at shop so dont worry. sorry for making so unordered >_>;; hopefully you can understand this
honeycream
07-28-2006, 10:09 AM
Thank you very much for your informative post, it was really a great help!
I've decided to go 1144 now with lion (i prefer guns to throwing things)
Is gun dmg for skills based on the dex? I know that normal attack is, but i'm unclear about this still.
Berrybenya
07-28-2006, 10:13 AM
yes it is o_o you wont regret having 4charm after you learn power shop :P
784512
07-29-2006, 11:40 AM
According to this website http://tricksters.50webs.com/creation.html.
Which of the stats is dexerity, Hit rate, attack or delay.
Altoidz
07-29-2006, 03:22 PM
According to this website http://tricksters.50webs.com/creation.html.
Which of the stats is dexerity, Hit rate, attack or delay.
Hit rate.........
Berrybenya
07-29-2006, 09:09 PM
also just because luck gives guns regular attack's accuracy,block rate,critical rate,Mod success rate dont mean you "have" to raise it. its a must to raise dex do not make me repeat again. also i really suggest you people to use 1144. you can get dex modded equipments then just live with the equips you will just do more than fine. 4141 needs health modded equipments (if you dont you know you will die in one hit lol)
register
07-30-2006, 03:11 AM
GUN CHARS MOST IMPORTANT ACCESSORY RHYTHM EARINGS! its like a gun chars life no matter what happens you cannot ignore this item :(
ChocoLove Necklace- has options that gun chars cant miss 600health 3dex
where do you get those items?
and it says here: http://tricksters.50webs.com/skills.html#Sense+Type that 1144 foxes are better than lions later, is that true? what are the advantages of going lion then?
Dreadwing
07-30-2006, 06:47 AM
Nvm...I get it now.
Destiny
07-30-2006, 07:57 AM
where do you get those items?
and it says here: http://tricksters.50webs.com/skills.html#Sense+Type that 1144 foxes are better than lions later, is that true? what are the advantages of going lion then?
simple.. dont u want to use guns :P
Berrybenya
07-30-2006, 05:51 PM
well at first you can use hitting a rock and shurikens and job change you can upgrade your shuriken damage and such not only that you get mines :O!!
all of these are sense stat based on damage o_o you could do hitting a rock > shuriken throw > run and mines then boom :O then again we all know gun chars are awsome :D
Okay something that confuses me
dex=Sense?
or is Dex a seperate Stat?
Berrybenya
07-30-2006, 07:36 PM
dex is the 2nd stat in power type o_o; they should have made gun power sense seriously :(
zammyl3g3nd
07-31-2006, 01:30 AM
For lions.. Do I put stat points on Power or sense?
dacrazedazn
07-31-2006, 01:49 AM
Omg berry just answered that right above your post... POWER! geezus -.-
Hemmie
07-31-2006, 02:07 AM
Nice guide. Hope you post more on other chars. ^^;
zammyl3g3nd
07-31-2006, 02:12 AM
Your saying, That I need to put my stats on power not sense?
dacrazedazn
07-31-2006, 02:36 AM
zammy... read the last post berry made man your so lazy its in the previous one >=O
Berrybenya
07-31-2006, 09:34 AM
Zammy read first before asking questions instead of making someone repeat.
you dont raise Power,Magic,Sense,Charm after the graph you get to raise 12 stat points. and the 2nd stat (dextarity) is all that stats you pour into it. sense is only for foxes that uses hitting a rock,shurikens "spoiler skill - mines* since the skills are sense based. lion isnt a fox. lol
Shidori
07-31-2006, 10:58 AM
Hey Berry, sup ^^
Got a question, which gun should i choose at lvl 15? The black one looking like some weird shotgun or the other one looking... like a very old gun? I saw that the "old" one was +7 dmg and the other +31 but there may be some difference in delay or i dont know..
zammyl3g3nd
07-31-2006, 11:03 AM
O ok. Thanks ;)
dzdragonzd
07-31-2006, 05:21 PM
Berrybenya: u say going 1144 build is 10/10 im playing this build on JTO seem weak.
so i could withstand alot of hits but lvl is slow
i was wondering how much damage u doing right now with powershot..
about 3 or 4 screenshot of same lvl monster of your lvl will be nice
dzdragonzd
08-02-2006, 02:47 PM
need info please..
i guess they weak after all
moving to another character type
Kultfire
08-02-2006, 02:52 PM
Alright, you may seem weak, but you aren't going to get raped. You won't need a tank. It's going to be pretty hectic until about level 15 or so, so hang in there...soon you will be god.
Also, please don't double post.
Berrybenya
08-02-2006, 08:35 PM
Hey Berry, sup ^^
Got a question, which gun should i choose at lvl 15? The black one looking like some weird shotgun or the other one looking... like a very old gun? I saw that the "old" one was +7 dmg and the other +31 but there may be some difference in delay or i dont know..
@shidori:you will use gun type 1 (sold in stores in starting town) there isnt differences
in delay for guns. no matter how much you raise hit speed it wont raise as well.
@kultfire:thank you for replying him while i wasnt paying attention to this post xD.
@dzdragonzd:you are still weak even if you go 4141. just drill till level 15
or even get leeched by a friend (sounds like a plan rofl) dex only raises guns
attack power so you wont get any stronger unless you reach level 15 to learn
the skill to equip guns (better not forget to buy ammos [ 1 gelder each lol ] )
Kultfire
08-02-2006, 09:20 PM
Haha no problem man. What can we use up until level 15? Our claws?
DarkCloudX
08-02-2006, 11:26 PM
Haha no problem man. What can we use up until level 15? Our claws?
every class use sword and shield as weapons to start out
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 12:36 AM
at level 10 foxes use mythril sword o_o; (found by digging in desert or droped by ducks xD)
dzdragonzd
08-03-2006, 02:14 AM
okie im like 24 now same build 1144 .. i save like 8 stats point just to see if the attack go strong while i lvl up dex .. i put 2dex .. same dam .. then i try 4dex still the same ... i put all 8 into dex and it still do the same damage .. am i missing something here..? i use the lvl 15 gun from shop .. still drilling for lvl 20gun
Power: color Red
2nd bar is dex .. right? just checking..
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 04:37 AM
yes,color red-2nd bar is dex.
dex dont go up each point 1 dex is 20 damage ;) hopefully you get your level 20 gun soon ^-^
Randomness
08-03-2006, 04:56 AM
i guess this is noob of me, but...i cant read the maps so im guessing i drill at the blue arrows:confused:
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 04:57 AM
*whacks* thats where you move maps -.- the maps with red lines on them is where you drill
Randomness
08-03-2006, 05:06 AM
*whacks* thats where you move maps -.- the maps with red lines on them is where you drill
but to find the wood gun i need to drill in the blue ghost map. and i dont see any red lines on that map
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 05:29 AM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6905/beennb4.png
what did you say? :D
Randomness
08-03-2006, 07:51 AM
oh ok... so everywhere......hahahaha
DarkCloudX
08-03-2006, 07:55 AM
you can dig in every map that's not a main town =/
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 07:56 AM
everywhere in that map ^0^ you can get other good items there too :P
enjoyincubus
08-03-2006, 08:02 AM
just a newbie question...
im going for 1144 build lion
what can you suggest i should do in my early lvl?
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 08:12 AM
u suggest you to read the guide :)
Randomness
08-03-2006, 08:13 AM
just a newbie question...
im going for 1144 build lion
what can you suggest i should do in my early lvl?
Didnt he say DRILL MADNESS RAWR!!!!!!! ? So im guessing you drill like crazy till youre around lvl10
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 08:15 AM
Didnt he say DRILL MADNESS RAWR!!!!!!! ? So im guessing you drill like crazy till youre around lvl10
actually to 15 :eek:
enjoyincubus
08-03-2006, 09:05 AM
u suggest you to read the guide :)
oh sorry about that...
can you suggest a good drilling spot?
flamer4ever
08-03-2006, 10:17 AM
dose it gives us good exp when drilling at lvl 10-15,i heared that it gives crap exp :/
Shidori
08-03-2006, 10:43 AM
Well actually you dont need lvl 15 stats, but lvl 15 TM (it's like skill xp) and it raises fast by drilling ^^
Btw thx Berry for answering :O
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 11:09 AM
oh sorry about that...
can you suggest a good drilling spot?
grass,places behind bumps/shadow etcetc :o
enjoyincubus
08-03-2006, 11:54 AM
ok thanks ^^
Axel916
08-03-2006, 07:24 PM
awesome guid., With this, I shall become the best lion eva!!!
bump =D. so it stays on 1st page.
flamer4ever
08-03-2006, 09:42 PM
i have a question,which lvl does the lion get always critical atks and they are somehow powerfull than others?? i think this is one of the things that will make the lion powerfull after :D
Berrybenya
08-03-2006, 09:44 PM
powershot that requires tm level 60 is very powerful o_o; your regular gun damage is like the power of a chars skill (im positive if 4141) (if 1144 pretty close) tm level 70 is beautiful multishot hits more than 2 monsters xP i dont know which point but i guess tm level 60 at least -_-
Reser
08-04-2006, 12:55 PM
Ok which stats is Dexterity, which stat is the one that increase gun damage? As everyone says it is DX the bottom one of 'Power' stats but the japanese version guide here http://tricksters.50webs.com/creation.html calls that 'Delay' the cloest I find is one under 'Charm' Called Evasion on japanese version guide.
Please tell me which it is so I dont make a mess of my Lion =/
Thanykou
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/1183/lionstatsdh7.jpg
Reser,
Ok Berry, hi, I registered to the forums just for this topic.
Anyways, I am making a 1144 gunlion. Now I am lv16 with tm lv15.
What is the problem?
well, the skill gun posession costs 7500. While the gun it self cost 2500. I been drilling and selling all day ( used 3 drills) and I only have 4000. Can you please post some tips about how to get more money in trickster? thank you.
Also, to the post above, I trusted berry with the 2nd bar from red, which is ac. I hope thats right.
FullMetalSasuke
08-04-2006, 07:47 PM
It might just be me, but this is extremely confusing. When I actually get the game started I will post my questions here. I just hope they get answered.
Arcteryx
08-04-2006, 10:12 PM
Ok Berry, hi, I registered to the forums just for this topic.
Anyways, I am making a 1144 gunlion. Now I am lv16 with tm lv15.
What is the problem?
well, the skill gun posession costs 7500. While the gun it self cost 2500. I been drilling and selling all day ( used 3 drills) and I only have 4000. Can you please post some tips about how to get more money in trickster? thank you.
Also, to the post above, I trusted berry with the 2nd bar from red, which is ac. I hope thats right.
You just got to get lucky and find some Equips to sell. Least that's what I did, and I didn't have any problems.
@ Berry: In the skills part of your guide, it says to max basic marksmanship after getting the gun possesion. But how do I get that skill?
Well unfoutunatly I only have 2 extra cap buffs to sell.. now I have finished most quests I only got 5.5k. With no drill and beginning to sell my resources... I don't think I will be getting a gun anytime soon.
Arcteryx
08-04-2006, 11:38 PM
Well unfoutunatly I only have 2 extra cap buffs to sell.. now I have finished most quests I only got 5.5k. With no drill and beginning to sell my resources... I don't think I will be getting a gun anytime soon.
Buy a new Drill then. I think the starter drill or whatever costs 300/500 and has 250 uses. It'll be worth it.
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 12:09 AM
@Arcteryx:you have to buy skill cards from this nerd and if you are at the desert beach hes at the south. if you are at cora blue same thing hes at the building @ south (same with other skill npcs)
@182: you must have not been that lucky then xD try making a 4114 bunny or buffalo and make some money. (best thing to do i guess lol)
@Reser: this has been answered many times before. and ill answer it one more time. its the 2nd stat.
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also drill wont help that much. its better to make another character for money :)
if you want to reset stats or skills too bad its going to be cash :p
enjoy your game guys lol.. ;)
oK UPDATE,
Yay I managed to sell everything I have to get the gun posession skill along with a gun type 1.
The damange makes all the suffering worth while, we do more damage than anyone around the beginning area.
How ever the bullets are 10 coins for 1! what a rip off, when you spend 2k on bullets you only get 200 and it's gone just like that.
noob question: how do you get to the desert beach?
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 03:34 AM
first go to the north east exit then go north then north east again then you will be in this dungeon/cave then find your way blahblah etcetc then you will be in aquaroad go close to the shop to talk to the made to go to ghostblue enterance or if you want jog all the way to desert beach then go to the south
anyways after you talk to the blue bunny maid and reach ghost blue enterance go east and find the blonde lady and she will take you to desert beach or any other places you want to go (of course teleports arnt free it dont cost much anyway) thats if you want to teleport there :) hopefully
this post helped you ^^
GhostUnit
08-05-2006, 03:45 AM
Well im lvl 9
I have Power ATtack on lvl 13 :( i messed up a phew.. doesnt metter anyway?
:) Im type1 4 Power , 4 Sence
don metter anyway? i should just DX? DeX ?
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 03:52 AM
omg you put attack power recreate at once! its useless -.- all into AC its the 2nd stat on red (duh!) you are 4 power 4 sense.. darn good luck on your lion. run run fast as you can you can die (meaning one hit K.O) since your 4 powerman! :O *ignore me* :cool:
savingmay
08-05-2006, 08:43 AM
How come its takign forever to lvl? I've been drilling for the past couple hours and i'm only lvl 6? and its only going 1% per drill. How do I levle faster?
furransu
08-05-2006, 08:54 AM
do quests.. u get like 1500-3000exp per quest.. its worth it :) and u get good items too
savingmay
08-05-2006, 09:02 AM
should i do the fighting quests too?
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 09:12 AM
monster quests are the best quests :D yes do them all :p but first
do monster quests untill there are no monster quests to do then do quests that needs items (since they dont have any max level requirements unlike monster quest in desert or blue cora)
furransu
08-05-2006, 09:14 AM
dont do monster quests when ur low lvl.. its impossible lol..
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 09:15 AM
:D true since your a gun char almost forgot about it lol excuse me at least you wont have a hard time at 20+ monster quests :D
furransu
08-05-2006, 09:45 AM
Berry, if you do this u can.. if u have 2 computers, keep making char on 1 account, transfer all the potions/drill and u wont waste money to buy pots for monster quests! very cheap way to save money!
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 10:10 AM
you cant even throw away tutoral pots ( i believe ) you can put pots into bank through but you need your level to be at 10 x(
DarkCloudX
08-05-2006, 10:12 AM
getting to lvl 10 with power and sense is easy as pie
yumm pie ^^
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 10:18 AM
1144 and 4141 didnt have a difference to me :rolleyes:
netkat
08-05-2006, 10:45 AM
Berry, if you do this u can.. if u have 2 computers, keep making char on 1 account, transfer all the potions/drill and u wont waste money to buy pots for monster quests! very cheap way to save money!
whaaa that's a bad trick there >_<
Anyway guys I've made my lion reach LV21 (thx to Royal 2.5) and i've put almost my points to AC, the gun damage is nice nothing to wine at all, but the thing that sacres me is how can we fight? It shoots something like 1 bullet every 5-7 seconds, also the auto attack thingie seems not to work well i have to click the monster everytime for shoot again...
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 10:48 AM
yup, does shotguns go auto? thats the samething with guns lol thats why my guide says you have to click like hell till you learn power shot and other skills etcetc :D
netkat
08-05-2006, 10:51 AM
ugh then it's normal like that <_< sorry your guide gave me an headache and I've gave up on it...anyway berry what's your IGN and Level?
*goes to try read it again*
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 11:03 AM
my ign? it is nothing and i am currently level 0 i won be playing because
1.the trickster site wont even work
2.after openbeta people say they will lock foreign ips (if they do or not id still not play lol)
3.i dont feel like doing the same thing all over again :p
gattaka
08-05-2006, 11:22 AM
I have a lv 16 lion but its to hard using guns with this lag... i think ill make a new char until they fix the lag a bit
netkat
08-05-2006, 11:24 AM
ahahah I guess you have your point there, I've found a guy from Jtrick that have a LV157 dragon there, he helped me a lot at the start, I hope to see him again, it was fun to lvling >_>
So, no IP lock!
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 11:26 AM
they said they are blocking foreign ips at open beta not close beta :p
enjoyincubus
08-05-2006, 12:04 PM
in open beta do they wipe out the closed beta chars?
and how did you know that they will block foriegn ip?
furransu
08-05-2006, 01:21 PM
Berry can you give some tips how to get easy money for Lion >< i spend so much money on bullet and potions -_- running out of money
This lag and money problem is ridiclous, I am gonna put my lion to sleep for a while at lv20, rather a bit disappointing.
furransu
08-05-2006, 02:17 PM
yeah.. lag+gun = shit... lags while reloading really sux... i envy the asian trickster servers ><
acessxz
08-05-2006, 02:54 PM
Drill MAdness RawR!!!!= Drill Drill Drill , No Quest, No monsters? o.o
Altoidz
08-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Yeah I can't stand drilling for too long. If you really do drill all the way to that level, you'll have 20k-50k all ready for you to start your gunning.
"type4. Power 1 Charm 4 Sense 4
Ah... Finally! Charm 4 sense 4!! has awfully lots of health tons of defense and lots more dodge rate People say this type graph is a flower lol.
well this type will be really hard until you learn the skill power-shot since you are really weak but when your against boss 1:1 and Guild Wars Good enough Tankness! Mobbing Fun! bad part is you need to have 60 levels of TM to learn power shot but you need patience for a perfect char so i rate this 10/10"
I'm running into a lot of 3142 lions. I really really don't recommend going 3142. A lot of other forums/guides, say to go 3142. It's not worth it for a few reasons.
1. You die in a few hits so...
2. You need a tank most of the time so...
3. The tanker gets all the loot so...
4. You make no money, which you need.
3142s are ok on JTrickster, KTrickster, etc, because you can just loot those high level players since they don't pick up their gold and make about 60k in 3 minutes. You won't be doing that here. Sorry! So go 1144 if you know what's best. If you can play a Maple Story Asassin (without people giving you money for nothing) then you are capable of making a good lion.
Let me tell you something. On JTrickster I was a 3142 lion. This time, I'm 1144 and I'm not regretting it at all. At lvl 15, my 1144 lion had more HP than my lvl 27 3142 lion. At level 22-23 the lvl 20 sea anemonies did 0 damage on me. I also don't feel weak at all. I kill monsters pretty fast. Also at tm level 30, you get Gun Booster (aka Marksmanship). A friend of mine did around 700 damage on popeyed anemones. Guns are fixed damage so the damage would be close on monsters his level. That is seriously some nice damage. This guide really is good. Most guides I've seen don't say 1144 therefore messing up the whole Trickster community. Berry, you should add some bolding for the those headers and some capitalization. It hurts my eyes a bit lol xD.
savingmay
08-05-2006, 05:00 PM
props to the benny man!
netkat
08-05-2006, 05:58 PM
I've made a 2134, cos I wasn't patient and like that it's a bit more fast in killing with meelee, now that I finally have the gun I will like to know a thing..
Hit Rate: Defines accuracy and gun power. The higher this is, the more often your hits will connect and gun damage will improve.
So actually my shots can be placed better than a 1144 lion, right?
Freshmeat
08-05-2006, 07:44 PM
Berry
whats
Gun posession = Gun Carrier?
Basic Marksmanship = :confused:
Absolute Loading = Invincible Reload?
Loading on the move = Loading on the Move ... :D
10 hitting a rock = :confused:
Armour Destruction = Armor Destructor .... :D
power shot = :confused:
nansa = :confused:
mysterious pouch = Heavy carrier?
this is based on trickster website skill section
Lionhart
08-05-2006, 09:01 PM
Keep this bumped. I don't want to have to look for it. Can we get a sticky?
Berrybenya
08-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Berry
whats
Gun posession = Gun Carrier?
Basic Marksmanship = :confused:
Absolute Loading = Invincible Reload?
Loading on the move = Loading on the Move ... :D
10 hitting a rock = :confused:
Armour Destruction = Armor Destructor .... :D
power shot = :confused:
nansa = :confused:
mysterious pouch = Heavy carrier?
this is based on trickster website skill section
did they change the stupid skill names again? gaah its even worse now
gun carrier lmfao :eek: please take a screenshot of the skill link in the
trickster site since it wont work for me. ill edit it right away.
Well umm for lvl 1-10 isnt it better to kill monsters then drill, I get more exp that way or am I just drilling wrong??
I don't really understand ur skill chart. Could u improve it in more details and better formation? Thank you in advance.
E.g
Drill Protection (Drilling cannot be interupted) RED lvl: 1 - Do Not Learn
Marksman (Gun can be equiped (passive)) REQ lvl: 15 - Learn until X level
etc
Because i want to know how many level should i learn and what not to learn. Thanks!
Berrybenya
08-06-2006, 01:16 AM
I don't really understand ur skill chart. Could u improve it in more details and better formation? Thank you in advance.
E.g
Drill Protection (Drilling cannot be interupted) RED lvl: 1 - Do Not Learn
Marksman (Gun can be equiped (passive)) REQ lvl: 15 - Learn until X level
etc
Because i want to know how many level should i learn and what not to learn. Thanks!
i put it in order and one without any numbers means its passive and can only be learned once. theres no need for discriptions of skills since you can always check at trickster homepage. (i cant since the site wont work for me) :eek:
ravenintiate
08-06-2006, 01:57 AM
hmm...do u people find the ammo a bit overpriced? its like 10g and the monster i kill nid 5 shots and give barely 20g?
Berrybenya
08-06-2006, 01:58 AM
they also drop stuff plus the ammo price will never rise so that means you wont have a problem at higher levels. perhaps 20ish? :D
Lionhart
08-06-2006, 05:09 AM
Just bumping this for reference. Thanks for the guide, berrybenya.
enjoyincubus
08-06-2006, 05:46 AM
hey berry, do you happen to know how much are penguin pets?
and what can you suggest i should do at my current lvl 23.
i cant lvl w/ my condition because ammos are very expensive
enjoyincubus
08-06-2006, 08:14 AM
bumpydibump
also the next skill for lion is reloading w/o cancelation cost a lot...and you have to buy your new weapon as well
dang im getting poor...
netkat
08-06-2006, 09:08 AM
Guys, I'm sure you're not digging, I have always around 20-30k when i comeback from the hunt and sell the useless drops....Be Lions is just simply use "sixth sense" dig 10-15 times, then hunt a bit, "sixth sense" and....
Lion haven't fast gameplays, but you make loads of money xD
Berrybenya
08-06-2006, 11:09 AM
lions arnt suppose to learn sixth sense lol. incubus why not create a bunny or a buffalo to make money. since you seem to be having a hard time doing so.
enjoyincubus
08-06-2006, 11:17 AM
isnt there any other way than making a new char?
and how much are penguin pets
Berrybenya
08-06-2006, 11:23 AM
they cost 500 gelders in korean i dont know about english version ( how would i know im not even playing trickster at all -.- ) go check for your self you can play it anyways. :D hopefully your not talking about blue penguins because they are dropped by blue penguins or recieved from a quest :/
enjoyincubus
08-06-2006, 11:39 AM
i mean blue penguins (lvl 40 required)..do you know how much they cost?
maybe ill just stick to lion...in the mean time ill just use melee weapons
and about royal party...whats the best EXP distribution? Level or No
ravenintiate
08-06-2006, 03:43 PM
hmm i was wondering how many lvls must i pump into my AC before i get increase in dmg as i was pumpin all bonus stats into AC for a few lvls and my dmg remain the same.
also, which lvl 20 pet is good for lion
and is the chance to drill the lvl 20 wooden gun out high cos i been drillin for quite long and could not get
Lionhart
08-06-2006, 04:45 PM
Keep this bumped, we need a sticky bad. Get a mod in here to sticky this.
enjoyincubus
08-06-2006, 04:46 PM
i think every lvl of AC it adds damage...which is 8 bonus stats?...not sure though
as for the wooden gun i was able to dug it out in seabed3
for pet...right now im using baby bunny which i think adds 40 dmg
lets just wait for berry to clear this up ^^
omeigahh these gun lions are expensive.. ammo should be 2-5g.. !!!
Freshmeat
08-06-2006, 09:20 PM
berry heres the screenshot of the skills
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5117/skillls2.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skillls2.jpg)
so which is
Gun posession = Gun Carrier?
Basic Marksmanship =
Absolute Loading = Invincible Reload?
Loading on the move = Loading on the Move ...
10 hitting a rock =
Armour Destruction = Armor Destructor ....
power shot =
nansa =
mysterious pouch = Heavy carrier?
enjoyincubus
08-07-2006, 02:05 AM
all you have to focus in right now is the
Gun Carrier
Invincivible Reload
Gun Booster
kpryde4life03
08-07-2006, 02:09 AM
1. lets see i got 4 sense and 4 charm lvl 4 lion LOL
what stats do i put in so far i put it in luk !
what do i put it in each lvl ?
2. and for a FOX charcter what stats best 4 sense and 4 charm ?
and what do i put in each lvl ? btw what weapons to they use ?
3. and for a bunny charcter what stats best 4 power and 4 charm ?
and what do i put in each lvl ? what weapons do they use
help me hehe im a noobie lolz
anusguild
08-07-2006, 02:31 AM
i can't find the "flicker drill." do you think you could tell me the location of where to buy it at. i dont see any priced at 2500 either.
ravenintiate
08-07-2006, 09:31 AM
i can't find the "flicker drill." do you think you could tell me the location of where to buy it at. i dont see any priced at 2500 either.
i think its a cash shop item which is not up yet...
KeroXIII
08-07-2006, 05:50 PM
Bump Bump
What are the requirements to get a pet annd what lvl do i get my first gun at?
Freshmeat
08-07-2006, 06:03 PM
youll get you first gun at lvl 15
you just need lvl to use a pet
KeroXIII
08-07-2006, 06:17 PM
thanks and whiich build is the best one? I went with 4 power and 4 sense. Is this build gonna be worse or bettter when im at a higher lvl.?
furransu
08-07-2006, 06:44 PM
omg lion pwns at making money.. im lvl 26 and i have 100k+ XD
Altoidz
08-07-2006, 07:34 PM
omg lion pwns at making money.. im lvl 26 and i have 100k+ XD
What the hell!? How'd you manage that!? Please tell me.
theteam
08-07-2006, 08:02 PM
im lvl23 and i only have 50k lol
does any lion users pump hp? im a 4141 build
Gchord830
08-07-2006, 09:53 PM
Why can't someone just clear this up, DEXTERITY IS AC IN THE RED BAR!!! NOT DX!
Freshmeat
08-07-2006, 10:12 PM
im lvl 34 and i have only 20k
acessxz
08-07-2006, 11:32 PM
IM lvl 18 and i got 2k how the hell do you people get so much money.
Reser
08-07-2006, 11:48 PM
Meh I am level 27 with 61k. I still have lots of equipment left to sell though.
Reser,
what is the american version for basic marksmenship??
Zerromus
08-08-2006, 11:21 AM
What is the english map name where you dig for the wooden gun? Also what drill do you need to use? Also how do you get to the desert town (I don't know name I think Paradise) from the other begining town?
Reser
08-08-2006, 11:25 AM
I seen people find wooden gun in the Dungeons.
Reser,
Altoidz
08-08-2006, 11:27 AM
iJAM: Gun Booster.
Zerromus: Seabed something, but it is the map with the Torpedos and Lvl. 34 floras near Aquarius. To get from Coral Beach to Desert Beach you must take Coral's upper right exit and make it to the Underground Path. Just follow the Underground Path, and you'll be in Aquarius. Then just talk to the maid Bunny Maid and teleport. xD
deebee
08-08-2006, 12:21 PM
do perception or luck increase the damage/accuracy of guns?
furransu
08-08-2006, 05:52 PM
deebee can u do something so that lion dont need reload :D
Spinner187
08-08-2006, 10:31 PM
To max gun booster, I have to find the Tomb of the ancient King...I've look almost every where. Anyone know where it is? ..thanks
red123
08-08-2006, 10:36 PM
anyone know if metal band, rhythm earring, and ChocoLove Necklace are out in eTO?
Zerromus
08-08-2006, 10:44 PM
Thanks for answering my other question but I have one more to ask. Where do you get the flicker drill and do you need it to find the +1 Ac Wooden gun?
Radical
08-08-2006, 10:48 PM
Sorry if i disturb you people but i really donr read all the treath
i want to know what growth should i put to my lion
only dex or something more?
i go for the 1144 build
Altoidz
08-08-2006, 11:59 PM
Spinner187: Get to Desert Paradise. Then take the southwestern exit. Go down one map. At the bottom of the next map, will be the tomb. Find the Hall of Harpy and kill the Nephtys or whatever. They are harpies with green hair.
Zerromus: I found a +1 AC Wooden Gun with a Pink Drill.
Radical: Pump all AC.
deebee
08-09-2006, 12:11 AM
deebee can u do something so that lion dont need reload :D
I can do anything ;)
Radical
08-09-2006, 12:29 AM
Lets See......
you say pump all Ac and berry says pump all dex
So What Should i Do T.T
Dex = More Dmg
AC= more Hit
So?
Zerromus
08-09-2006, 01:04 AM
Pink okay, but where do I get the flicker drill?
gattaka
08-09-2006, 01:10 AM
I have a lion lv 28 and i can say that AC increases the damage. Each point AC is increased you will do +20 damage.
If u get the rabbit pet (+2 AC) you will do +40 damage.
Zerromus
08-09-2006, 01:20 AM
Should i get one then?
Penguin
08-09-2006, 02:14 AM
Lets See......
you say pump all Ac and berry says pump all dex
So What Should i Do T.T
Dex = More Dmg
AC= more Hit
So?
AC = dexterity.
Pump AC all the way, DX is how fast your melee attack happens.
Radical
08-09-2006, 02:35 AM
I See
So in this game Accuracy means dextirity for long range
And DX is For Melee Range
Roger~
YanGz
08-09-2006, 07:45 AM
theres cleaner, blend and multi point drill .. so which is it ?
Flyojumper
08-09-2006, 07:55 AM
Ok, can someone (possibly from jTO or kTO) tell me what the heck is happening in that video? :eek:
YouTube - 機關槍獅 赤炎獅 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0iLte6WjSTU)
I thought DX didn't affet gun reload for sure, how can we explain the lion in that video shooting like a machine gun? Is there an actual machine gun weapon later on? I didn't see it in the Japanese wiki database...
Radical
08-09-2006, 10:04 AM
lol maybe a super advanced-cyber lion
That got and uzi and a bazooka
So he can rid of all monsters:D
Toymaster
08-09-2006, 11:48 AM
hate to make a new thread for it so i guess i'll juz ask it in here
Whats the difference between the different types of drills other than their price and depth? I mean i can still drill anywhere (except in town of coz) with the basic 400 gelder one and i tried the green drill given from the sandman quest which has much shorter life and other than a slightly faster speed in drilling (which is kinda hard to maintain imo) i couldnt find a reason to spend gelder in getting the more costy ones
Can anyone give me reasons for upgrading the drills to the more expensive ones in the shop?
ravenintiate
08-09-2006, 12:35 PM
hate to make a new thread for it so i guess i'll juz ask it in here
Whats the difference between the different types of drills other than their price and depth? I mean i can still drill anywhere (except in town of coz) with the basic 400 gelder one and i tried the green drill given from the sandman quest which has much shorter life and other than a slightly faster speed in drilling (which is kinda hard to maintain imo) i couldnt find a reason to spend gelder in getting the more costy ones
Can anyone give me reasons for upgrading the drills to the more expensive ones in the shop?
dig out better stuff and gif more exp?
Zerromus
08-09-2006, 03:03 PM
Where do you get the flicker drill? And what is the name of the map that you drill on to get the wooden gun?
Randomness
08-10-2006, 06:32 AM
bump
for them noobs
Reser
08-10-2006, 06:33 AM
God dont bump it randomly, no one was even wanting it for a while.
I am sure bumping must be aganst the rules too.
Reser,
Lionhart
08-10-2006, 06:36 AM
It probably is, but until this gets a sticky. It's being bumped for my personal reference and yours too of course Reser.
ok lemme get this perfectly strait::
the second row of the power stat is AC, and apparently, thats hit rate which is the same as dex right? i dnno why they abbreviated it so much to confuse everyone. which is the only stat i do forever rite?
sasuke8
08-10-2006, 08:33 PM
ok lemme get this perfectly strait::
the second row of the power stat is AC, and apparently, thats hit rate which is the same as dex right? i dnno why they abbreviated it so much to confuse everyone. which is the only stat i do forever rite?
its not the same as dex... don't compare with other games for now to avoid confusion...
LION GUN damage is base on AC like you said , 2nd row of the power STATS.
If you're 1144 I suggest you put all of it onto AC :D
B1oodLust
08-10-2006, 10:48 PM
Imma make a 4141 abd put 1 into AC and 3 into Luck, or a 3142 build with 2 into AC and 2 into Luck.
Would these builds work? And what build would work better?
netkat
08-10-2006, 11:33 PM
Imma make a 4141 abd put 1 into AC and 3 into Luck, or a 3142 build with 2 into AC and 2 into Luck.
Would these builds work? And what build would work better?
with 4141 you will sie fast as you can0t even imagine....
3142 gives you a bit more life....but you always have to put you bonus points for increase your defense and HP, put points on Luck doesn't help you since at higher lvl lions get the skill "Luckyseven" and anyway don't hope it will work that much you think while drilling.
The best for lion is 1144 stop...here you have nice defense and it allows you to fight more and evade more.
I've choosed 2143, since I was still a new, and do a bit more damage at the beginning will help for a quick start, but anyway I can go straight with it since the lion gameplay allows you to earn more money than the others...so you will have good equipments.
sasuke8
08-11-2006, 12:10 AM
Imma make a 4141 abd put 1 into AC and 3 into Luck, or a 3142 build with 2 into AC and 2 into Luck.
Would these builds work? And what build would work better?
I think that the first one 4141 and ure stat build will be a nice crit build... i'm not sure about it but maybe it'll be very very good... or just normal :p
I think you should consider one of the other ~ they're both pretty ideal... good luck ~ :cool:
*peace out* ;)
btw if you're thinking of solo'ing.. you'll die quick with these 2 builds... either pump some hp or get some great defense equips... or better... always party with a tanker
Freshmeat
08-11-2006, 01:58 AM
why do you need a crit build if you can use the "gun sense"
Lionhart
08-11-2006, 02:02 AM
For the last time. It's not Gun Sense that you need to 'properly work a Gun' just use it and you'll figure it out.
buckley
08-11-2006, 10:13 PM
I saw a guy selling a +4 ac necklace for 10k in aquarius... I was wondering if there was a shop that sold this for less or if the only way to get it was to find it?
Altoidz
08-11-2006, 10:21 PM
Sells in Caballa Ruins for 2.5k. You need a Portable Port to teleport there.
furransu
08-12-2006, 01:06 AM
portable port u can go digging at oops wharf
GhostUnit
08-12-2006, 08:46 AM
Hey nice guide but may i know wat is Tm
tm is like a job level. you get tm exp each time you kill a monster or success in drilling or even winning during a card game.
Must i put all stat to dex when i lvl up?is there speed/hp or other ability i must put too?
it is a must to put all stats into dex. no other just dex.
For the sense/power/charm thing when should i put it?or u just choose it when u create character?
you choose it when you create a character.
Btw the skills that u didnt put (master),must i just put 1 point in it and not maxed?
yes. hitting a rock must be lv.10 through so you can raise lucky seven.
(can be done later)
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how* do u get this* "flicker drill"?
this drill is a cash item that is 2500 cash at korean version. i hope its the same price in the english version. (suddenly its 10000 cash LOL)
HoPing Item shop will be uselesss....
or ill stop playin this game ;)
I don spend $ on a game. ^_^
sasuke8
08-12-2006, 09:47 AM
HoPing Item shop will be uselesss....
or ill stop playin this game ;)
I don spend $ on a game. ^_^
So far I haven't spent real money on online games ~ besides buying them in the first place like D2 LOD ~ Guild wars ~
netkat
08-12-2006, 10:03 AM
where we can get the portable? 0.0
Berrybenya
08-12-2006, 10:10 AM
you can buy it from item girl in shops :o its 1500 gelders
hi guys.. can i ask how many ac level will ur base ac (50+0) increase?
Flyojumper
08-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Berrybenya, what do you think of that video I posted earlier? (end of page 17)
Does anyone know if we can really wield machine guns later on or was that a hack? :(
B1oodLust
08-12-2006, 05:41 PM
Fly maybe it was some crazyass skill you get later in the game... or maybe he was hacking. Dunno but you gotta admit, that was pretty cool.
netkat
08-12-2006, 11:34 PM
he said he was hacking so....T_T
Kuuhazan
08-13-2006, 12:51 AM
i beleive every 4 levels you get +1 AC, since i leveled 4 times from lvl 1, all my ap and dx is at 2 and my ac went up when it got to 5, 1 +4 = 5 =+1
thx Kuuhazan.. and Berrybenya recommand a 1144 build.. i can understand that we need hp to tank the mob.. then how about wt? why do we need weight for?
Reser
08-13-2006, 02:48 AM
The Lion is a SENSE character you HAVE to have 4 in sense, it is impossible NOT to have 4 in sense, the 4 in sense is compulsory. and there is more int he sense catergory then just weight, it's not like only weight is being increased with the 4 in sense, DA and LK are being increased. DA helps with drilling LK is luck and gives you more critical hits.
Reser,
Kuuhazan
08-13-2006, 03:03 AM
thx Kuuhazan.. and Berrybenya recommand a 1144 build.. i can understand that we need hp to tank the mob.. then how about wt? why do we need weight for?
the 1144 build makes alot of sense when you think about it, if you understand what the 1144 means and works then ull understand this next thing
It is way more beneficial to have 4 charm, why? might you ask, well because since charm is 4, HP,DP and HV all get +4pnts (takes 4 pnts to raise a stat by 1) when you level which results in them increasing by +1.
think of it this way, you need all 3 of them or your are gimped but if charm was 1 you would need to spend 12 stat points (4 in each) to raises them, where as if you look at ATK which is AP, AC and DX, the only thing u benefit from is AC
so it would be a waste to have 4ATK when all you need is AC. You get 4stat pnts which all goes into AC so it all works out nice and dont have to worry about hp,dp and hv cuz they all get +4 from your growth graph if your a 1144
i am currently lv 9...
my sense is:
WT 1340+0 LV9
DA 2+0 LV9
LK 2+0 Lv9
how come the weight is more.. and da and lk is only 2+0 when it is lv 9? my char bug?
Reser
08-13-2006, 03:11 AM
Because some stats dont go up as much as others, when weight levels up of course its going to add more, it would be pretty useless if you only got 1 weight per level wouldnt it... this is common sense...
Weight goes up more per 'level' then something like luck does...
Reser,
Spinner187
08-13-2006, 04:32 AM
Ok we all know that DX does nothing for us gun totting lion, But i found a Shrewd Classic gun. It can be compounded to add luck,...or DX. I saw this, and was like "WTF". Can anyone explain why the hell would a gun be able to be compounded to add DX. This is confusing
Reser
08-13-2006, 04:50 AM
it seems only way to increase the main stat , in this case the AC is refining, compouding is used to add 'extra' stats, so you get a choice of a couple of stats. DX I am not sure if would be any use, probably not, but meh what else could you put on a gun? maybe Accuracy but I dont think accuracy works with guns.
Spinner187
08-13-2006, 05:07 AM
it seems only way to increase the main stat , in this case the AC is refining, compouding is used to add 'extra' stats, so you get a choice of a couple of stats. DX I am not sure if would be any use, probably not, but meh what else could you put on a gun? maybe Accuracy but I dont think accuracy works with guns.
Ok this is the stats of the gun:
Shrewd Classic Gun
Required Lvl 40
Compound No.1
Total Ap+83
Accuracy +2
You can Compound either DX or LK
I know how to build stats on gus and what not, BUt y o y would U add DX to a gun. It makes no sense
Reser
08-13-2006, 05:09 AM
Then dont add it? its just an option.
Spinner187
08-13-2006, 06:11 AM
Then dont add it? its just an option.
Yeah, well that's the obvious,
i find something quite contridicting..
first Berrybenya says in his very 1st post that raising dex increase attack power and after that he say dex is attack:red 2nd stat
ig, red 2nd stats is AC
so can any1 clarify AC increase gun dmg or DX ?
Reser
08-13-2006, 04:50 PM
i find something quite contridicting..
first Berrybenya says in his very 1st post that raising dex increase attack power and after that he say dex is attack:red 2nd stat
ig, red 2nd stats is AC
so can any1 clarify AC increase gun dmg or DX ?
For goodness sake, HOW MANY more times must this be asked, can you please LOOK around before posting..
On the japanese version the second red stat, AC was called DEX, when Benny says Dex he means AC, as a Lion, you pump AC
Reser,
sasuke8
08-13-2006, 06:07 PM
For goodness sake, HOW MANY more times must this be asked, can you please LOOK around before posting..
On the japanese version the second red stat, AC was called DEX, when Benny says Dex he means AC, as a Lion, you pump AC
Reser,
yep just pump AC all the way if ure 1144 ~ if not i'm not 100% sure but AC is the most important stat for lions :D
Spinner187
08-13-2006, 08:03 PM
What boss drops lvl 51 gun. And don't tell me it doesn't existed cause i saw some1 selling it for 100k
Asimz
08-13-2006, 08:25 PM
excuse me but where did you find the Shrewd Classic Gun because i have been after one for a long time. also does the critical glitch work with it? since ihad a power clasic and it didnt work with that at all even tho i had perfefct timing and what does the rhythem earings do that is so vital to lion gunner life. thay add like 900 AC or sumfin?
Spinner187
08-14-2006, 01:52 AM
excuse me but where did you find the Shrewd Classic Gun because i have been after one for a long time. also does the critical glitch work with it? since ihad a power clasic and it didnt work with that at all even tho i had perfefct timing and what does the rhythem earings do that is so vital to lion gunner life. thay add like 900 AC or sumfin?
Bought it, But now I got an Lvl 51 Odd Reianssance(sp) gun. King Tut drops it
and about the gun glich, it takes practice. I got it down(even tho i don't even use it much). But what is even more of a challenge is when u get quick reload(Reload on the move), try shot, run around and doing nothing but critic.
Unforunately this glich will be fixed soon, I assume.
Lionhart
08-14-2006, 01:59 AM
I WILL BEAT THE NEXT PERSONS *** WHO CALLS IT A GLITCH.
You won't like it either. Male or Female, you will NOT like it.
Asimz
08-14-2006, 02:11 AM
Bought it, But now I got an Lvl 51 Odd Reianssance(sp) gun. King Tut drops it
and about the gun glich, it takes practice. I got it down(even tho i don't even use it much). But what is even more of a challenge is when u get quick reload(Reload on the move), try shot, run around and doing nothing but critic.
Unforunately this glich will be fixed soon, I assume.
ive had enough practice and my timing is perfect. but the lvl 40 gun that i got just dont seem to do it. if u still got that gun i wana buy it from you please.
IGN: DevilsGunner
most likely to seem me on ruby.
Spinner187
08-14-2006, 02:14 AM
I WILL BEAT THE NEXT PERSONS *** WHO CALLS IT A GLITCH.
You won't like it either. Male or Female, you will NOT like it.
Lay off the coffee :eek:
Spinner187
08-14-2006, 02:16 AM
ive had enough practice and my timing is perfect. but the lvl 40 gun that i got just dont seem to do it. if u still got that gun i wana buy it from you please.
IGN: DevilsGunner
most likely to seem me on ruby.
Sold already =/. Only 40k. But u will see one soon. I seen alot of Power Classic guns around. And actually there is a third classic gun. Forgot the name, but it has +83(just like the original) but u can add two compounds too it.
Spinner187
08-14-2006, 02:19 AM
I'm 51 atm. And I notice that everyone else is going to Path of Phantom School at my lvl. That's fine n dandy but I was wonder where else I can lvl.
NE Suggestions
Asimz
08-14-2006, 02:58 AM
go rape anything with a gun weakness thats a few lvls above you n you shud be fine. thats what i did. caused me to lvl to fast and i left my TM behind =(
Spinner187
08-14-2006, 03:24 AM
go rape anything with a gun weakness thats a few lvls above you n you shud be fine. thats what i did. caused me to lvl to fast and i left my TM behind =(
Huh? What are you saying? Things with Gun weakness give less TM?
And where is this place?
Freshmeat
08-14-2006, 03:34 AM
I'm 51 atm. And I notice that everyone else is going to Path of Phantom School at my lvl. That's fine n dandy but I was wonder where else I can lvl.
NE Suggestions
you can try chrono wharf till 55 or 58 then head to path to phantom school
Spinner187
08-14-2006, 04:14 AM
you can try chrono wharf till 55 or 58 then head to path to phantom school
Been there done that:D .
I guess i have to wait for the gm to open up the other maps. But by then i'll be 100
Asimz
08-14-2006, 04:38 AM
Huh? What are you saying? Things with Gun weakness give less TM?
And where is this place?
they do? so what type of mob giv lots of tm? can any1 sujest a mob for loads of tm? or i got mob weakness n lvls from here
Trickster MMORPG Forums (http://www.trickstermart.com/list/monster)
one last thing. what TM lvl is power shot?
Spinner187
08-16-2006, 02:08 AM
Lets keep this thread posted, Its very useful.
On that note, It's official. There a gun at every 10 levels(almost)....
Lvl 20=Wooden gun
Lvl 35(Close enough)=Gun Type 3
Lvl 40=Classic Gun
Lvl 51=Odd Reinassance gun
Lvl 60 Reinassance gun
Lvl 70-100=I forgot
Reser
08-16-2006, 03:39 AM
Lets keep this thread posted, Its very useful.
On that note, It's official. There a gun at every 10 levels(almost)....
Lvl 20=Wooden gun
Lvl 35(Close enough)=Gun Type 3
Lvl 40=Classic Gun
Lvl 51=Odd Reinassance gun
Lvl 60 Reinassance gun
Lvl 70-100=I forgot
you missed out LvL 25=Gun Type 2, and lots of others.
Reser,
70-titan gun I think
100- military gun
Back to being a lion, lv41 at the moment...leveling at path to opps is slow.
Freshmeat
08-17-2006, 09:23 PM
70 is metal gun and 90 is the titan gun
Berrybenya
08-18-2006, 01:45 AM
tm level 60 is the required tm level for powershot. good luck in gaming :)
Freshmeat
08-18-2006, 01:50 AM
then we still have more or less 2 months to be TM lvl 60
Berrybenya
08-18-2006, 01:53 AM
then we still have more or less 2 months to be TM lvl 60
actually it wont take that long. it should take you a week or a little more ( i found phantom school good enough tm exp xD )
Spinner187
08-18-2006, 01:55 AM
actually it wont take that long. it should take you a week or a little more ( i found phantom school good enough tm exp xD )
No What he means is that eTO isn't release 2nd job until 2 months
Well if he didn't mean that, I'm saying it
Freshmeat
08-18-2006, 01:55 AM
you mean path to phantom school? i'll try to just dig in NW megalopolis till TM 60+ ( hope so )
Berrybenya
08-18-2006, 01:57 AM
nah "in phantom school" its pretty fun shootin the ghosts i find it funny how ghosts are weak to guns :p
Spinner187
08-18-2006, 01:58 AM
nah "in phantom school" its pretty fun shootin the ghosts i find it funny how ghosts are weak to guns :p
It's too bad its not open =/. Like I said...two months
Freshmeat
08-18-2006, 01:59 AM
but its not out yet :( , do you know when it will be release?
Spinner187
08-18-2006, 02:01 AM
but its not out yet :( , do you know when it will be release?
Probably same time second job is released
MMOAddict
08-18-2006, 02:02 AM
Wow 13k Views!!
Asimz
08-18-2006, 04:23 AM
this blows. im compleatly stuck at lvl 52 and dno where or what to lvl on? should i wait for full release so i can go to the school? or kill something else. id like something money friendly since spamming pots rapes my cash fund.
Freshmeat
08-18-2006, 05:07 AM
you can go to chorno wharf till 56-58 then go to path to panthom to lvl then nora
roburn
08-18-2006, 11:18 AM
Addition!
Guns
level 20 Wood gun (can be found by drilling at a map in ghost blue screenshot is below)
before i post the screenshot this one isnt the regular wood gun it has 1 dex meaning
you will do 20 damage more than your self using the regular wood gun :P
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5726/1ws0.png
I know the places but can u guys please give me a more exact spot as to where to dig for the lvl 20 gun or is it in all those maps that Berrybenya has provided?
Penguin
08-18-2006, 02:28 PM
It is the area outlined in red.
Asimz
08-18-2006, 06:55 PM
you can go to chorno wharf till 56-58 then go to path to panthom to lvl then nora
ive been there and no1 is there so i cant party any1. and the master guys go serious damage. like 197 a hit.
sasuke8
08-18-2006, 07:38 PM
ive been there and no1 is there so i cant party any1. and the master guys go serious damage. like 197 a hit.
What bout their crits? I don't believe how many crits mobs do on this game lmao.... its like.. wooo they onli take 50 off me... I can take them then 2 seconds later they crit 200 or so :( :( :(
as Bery said
Gun Posession->Basic Marksmanship(master)
can someone what is Basic Marksmanship in game? i cannot find that skill
thks
Asimz
08-19-2006, 04:39 PM
i ges u didnt read all 25 pages. since it says gun booster = basic marksmanship.
since its basic you think that another job will have advanced marksmanship? would be cool. ow and is lucky 7 4 points to lern but 1 point a lvl? or is it 4 points to learn and 4 points to lvl? and what are all the second job skills for a lion? and what damage they do? i would like to know.
spiegel
08-31-2006, 03:57 AM
i am very noob, like u say this type 1144. In what order i must lvl? In charecter creation i put 1144. But when i get lvl's i just level up dex? or i need sometimes to level charm and sense. I just cant get it
Asimz
08-31-2006, 04:36 AM
i am very noob, like u say this type 1144. In what order i must lvl? In charecter creation i put 1144. But when i get lvl's i just level up dex? or i need sometimes to level charm and sense. I just cant get it
technicly i shud scream at you since its all in the topic already!!!! its 1 power 1 magic 4 charm and 4 sense. and all bonus points go in to AC!! got that.......... goo cause i wont say it again!>_> >_> >_>
idunno
09-12-2006, 09:03 PM
ignore those fan sites that has those stat things. all dex no matter what. lol
my friend said to put all in ac not dex
Penguin
09-13-2006, 12:35 AM
Dex is what it is called in jTrickster.
Your friend is correct though, all in AC.
Berrybenya
09-13-2006, 05:59 AM
ahhhhhh long time no see my guide *smiles* i didnt know there were people that didnt know what Ac is lol dex = ac -_- blame gng for keep changing skill names lol O_o
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