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Sp4rt4n
05-22-2006, 03:09 PM
About how much more damage would a lvl 26 (or so) assassin get if he used kumbis instead of subis?

(6 more attack)

xXDeathzJrXx
05-22-2006, 03:15 PM
i think in higher LVs atk + 1 on weapon is about 30-90 damage more....not really sure

Balross
05-22-2006, 06:01 PM
6 Attack on an assassin is a big difference, trust me youll probably notice it right away. I changed from my 23 atk meba to a 32 atk Kandayo at lvl 43 (Thats 9 attack) and went from doing 600-700 dmg per lucky 7 hit to around 1k max dmg with criticals.

magicjubin
05-22-2006, 08:55 PM
6 Attack on an assassin is a big difference, trust me youll probably notice it right away. I changed from my 23 atk meba to a 32 atk Kandayo at lvl 43 (Thats 9 attack) and went from doing 600-700 dmg per lucky 7 hit to around 1k max dmg with criticals.
but this is about 20+ levels below you where 1 att adds about 3.5 damage only

Balross
05-22-2006, 09:44 PM
Meh, its still worth it if you ask me. If he can afford it that is.

Ska-Boy
05-22-2006, 10:12 PM
It's fairly signifigant, I did it on my Scania sin. But if it destroys your wallet, you don't REALLY need it.

Zadam
05-22-2006, 10:57 PM
Instead of making statements without evidence, and making guesses why don't you guys actually figure it out?

*sigh* OK fine I'll do it...

So a lvl 26 Thief will have the following stats (around, including from gear, assuming a perfect build and all LUK gear, no attack glove):

LUK: 101
DEX: 50

He will be using a Meba (16 w.atk).

So his regular damage attack range would be:
Subis (15 atk): 26-129 (average = 77)
Kumbis (21 atk): 32-154 (average = 93)

Difference:
min: +6
average: +16
max: +25

Now Lucky7 uses a different damage calculation, plus it hits for more damage, so how much of a difference will it make using L7?

Damage range with L7 (assuming maxed, both hits included in damage calculation):
Subis: 234-469 (average: 351)
Kumbis: 280-560 (average: 420)

Difference:
min: +46
average: +69
max: +91

There ya go, enjoy...

Kumbis:

kloned
05-22-2006, 11:55 PM
u know u will always ending up doing it zadam:D

Sp4rt4n
05-23-2006, 01:29 AM
Wow Zadam, that helped a lot, thanks :)

I think I might get Kumbis... I have 2.5 mil, I can find em for 320k, so i can get 4 sets and still have over a mil left over...

xXDeathzJrXx
05-23-2006, 01:42 AM
Instead of making statements without evidence, and making guesses why don't you guys actually figure it out?

*sigh* OK fine I'll do it...

So a lvl 26 Thief will have the following stats (around, including from gear, assuming a perfect build and all LUK gear, no attack glove):

LUK: 101
DEX: 50

He will be using a Meba (16 w.atk).

So his regular damage attack range would be:
Subis (15 atk): 26-129 (average = 77)
Kumbis (21 atk): 32-154 (average = 93)

Difference:
min: +6
average: +16
max: +25

Now Lucky7 uses a different damage calculation, plus it hits for more damage, so how much of a difference will it make using L7?

Damage range with L7 (assuming maxed, both hits included in damage calculation):
Subis: 234-469 (average: 351)
Kumbis: 280-560 (average: 420)

Difference:
min: +46
average: +69
max: +91

There ya go, enjoy...

Kumbis:

We r really Lazy...besides u got u! =)

Balross
05-23-2006, 02:07 AM
What exactly is the equation for Lucky 7 anyway?

olaph
05-23-2006, 02:10 AM
zad is my offical "screw this i'll do it myself" slave XD

maxlax
05-23-2006, 02:21 AM
the equation for lucky 7 is:

" Lucky Seven (Maximum Damage for 1 Throwing Star) - [((5.0*LUK)/100)*Weapon Attack)*Damage Percentage]
Lucky Seven (Minimum Damage for 1 Throwing Star) - [((2.5*LUK)/100)*Weapon Attack)*Damage Percentage"-hidden-street

Sp4rt4n
05-23-2006, 02:49 AM
Uhh... Another question that sorta goes along with this that I dont feel like making another topic about :p

About how much accuracy do you need to hit golems?

Zadam
05-23-2006, 05:20 AM
Uhh... Another question that sorta goes along with this that I dont feel like making another topic about :p

About how much accuracy do you need to hit golems?

It depends on your level!

See here:

http://rain.prohosting.com/maoserr/acc/acc.html