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zypher1005
08-10-2006, 12:47 AM
Do you think the Final Fantasy VII remake will possibly be able to stand up to its predacessor? I mean, FF7 was just so, legendary. I don't think any remake could possibly do it honor.

Zer0Force
08-10-2006, 01:08 AM
Do you think the Final Fantasy VII remake will possibly be able to stand up to its predacessor? I mean, FF7 was just so, legendary. I don't think any remake could possibly do it honor.


There's not even gonna be a remake man, they have said it would take them at a long time to make, becides do you reallywant them to worry about makeing the same game just with better looking graphics and probly a voice cast that makes fans say "ZOMG! THAT SHOULDNT BE HER VOICE BECAUSE IT DONT MATCH!!11!!1" even tho, they forget that the makers of the game are picking the fitting voices for the chars they came up with or, make better and new games that can bring a bigger profit/fanbase.


Sorry for the rant but i see a topic about this on every site I goto.

Str1der
08-10-2006, 01:57 AM
People thought they might, because they did use FF7 as their Tech Demo at E3. Personally, I'd love for it to be re-done. I don't give a damn about voices, to be honest.

Dreakon
08-10-2006, 02:38 AM
Besides, they already have a cast. Advent Children anyone? ;)

I'd personally love one.

Zer0Force
08-10-2006, 04:07 AM
People thought they might, because they did use FF7 as their Tech Demo at E3. Personally, I'd love for it to be re-done. I don't give a damn about voices, to be honest.

Well, I think everyone should see why they chose FF7 as the game to do a tech demo it was for the fact that Avent Children was pretty big(lotta interweb hype) so it was the perfect pick.

lasthero
08-10-2006, 08:26 AM
ff7 remake with better graphics?= I totally love it.

just coz voice, u wouldnt want that game...? bah

stel
08-10-2006, 09:11 AM
no someone said that they interviewed them and when they said will they remake FF7 for ps3 and he smiled

Osaka
08-10-2006, 12:11 PM
From what I know they said there are too many things for them to do right now and they can't even think of doing remake...

Zer0Force
08-10-2006, 02:22 PM
no someone said that they interviewed them and when they said will they remake FF7 for ps3 and he smiled

And then, 2 weeks later it was said it would take them about 10 years to finish but, thats after all the other better games are canned. So its like this: 1 game that you can play at anytime via PC or PS1 or a bunch of new storylines and better games.

Deathscythe7
08-10-2006, 03:28 PM
i dun really mind waiting for another few years for the remake. but i thought there was a trailer for the FF7 remake, you guys rmb the start of the game? where cloud got off the train. yeah i heard they remake that part using the AC techs, at least my friend saw it. however, that was just a intro, they dint plan to make the game or release any official announcement yet.

zypher1005
08-10-2006, 04:03 PM
Oh come on. You all know they will remake it. They have to. If they don't well, people are going to be slightly pissed. I mean, you have to agree that all FF games after FF7 have been, well, mediacore. Even FFX. And FFXII seems to be going away from the turn-based combat that we all know and love. Or was that FFXIII? Well, one of them is.

Zer0Force
08-10-2006, 04:15 PM
Oh come on. You all know they will remake it. They have to. If they don't well, people are going to be slightly pissed. I mean, you have to agree that all FF games after FF7 have been, well, mediacore. Even FFX. And FFXII seems to be going away from the turn-based combat that we all know and love. Or was that FFXIII? Well, one of them is.


They don't have too, all they have to do is pay taxes and die, and no if anything Final Fantasy 7 is garbage when compared to 12, and 9 but like i said number 1 owns all others. Also, why would anyone be pissed? the fact that they want to not beat the dead horse any longer or the fact they can't play the same game that they have, just with voices and better Graphics, becides graphics and voices dont make a game what it is...right?

Deaths_Legion
08-10-2006, 09:35 PM
They don't have too, all they have to do is pay taxes and die, and no if anything Final Fantasy 7 is garbage when compared to 12, and 9 but like i said number 1 owns all others. Also, why would anyone be pissed? the fact that they want to not beat the dead horse any longer or the fact they can't play the same game that they have, just with voices and better Graphics, becides graphics and voices dont make a game what it is...right?


I would love to agree with you on that, but I can't. There are too many ignorant FF gamers out there that were introduced to the series through FFX. Also, what companies DON'T want to milk their creations? Seriously, Square will probably remake it just to get more money out of it. If they do, though, I'm definetly looking forward to it. :D

MoonlightDarkness
08-10-2006, 11:33 PM
*inserts random FF7 rant here*

personally, if FF7 be remade, it'd be another milking cow that square can do.

Zer0Force
08-11-2006, 12:10 AM
I would love to agree with you on that, but I can't. There are too many ignorant FF gamers out there that were introduced to the series through FFX. Also, what companies DON'T want to milk their creations? Seriously, Square will probably remake it just to get more money out of it. If they do, though, I'm definetly looking forward to it. :D

Let them, let them can all other games to make one game thats out allready, and ill tell you: They will die. wanna know something? the game that makes them Gods in japan is Dragon Quest so let them make FF7...again and it truely will be the Final Fantasy.

Deaths_Legion
08-11-2006, 12:14 AM
You wanna know why it'll take them so long? Because they're not going to have their whole team working on it! That's apparently what you think, seeing as how you're saying they'll have to put aside all their other projects just for this one! They won't have too, they can see this as a side-project while the Dragon Quest games are being made in Japan and newer FF games are being made in America. They don't have to pour all their work ethic into this one game.

Coldcut
08-11-2006, 12:15 AM
They don't have too, all they have to do is pay taxes and die, and no if anything Final Fantasy 7 is garbage when compared to 12, and 9 but like i said number 1 owns all others. Also, why would anyone be pissed? the fact that they want to not beat the dead horse any longer or the fact they can't play the same game that they have, just with voices and better Graphics, becides graphics and voices dont make a game what it is...right?

You cant be serious about that. FF7 will be in my memorys for life , hats how good the game was for me. I really want to play XI but lack of CC messes that up for me so ive gotta save up for a 360 :rolleyes: , Ill get there :p

Zer0Force
08-11-2006, 12:17 AM
You wanna know why it'll take them so long? Because they're not going to have their whole team working on it! That's apparently what you think, seeing as how you're saying they'll have to put aside all their other projects just for this one! They won't have too, they can see this as a side-project while the Dragon Quest games are being made in Japan and newer FF games are being made in America. They don't have to pour all their work ethic into this one game.

Yeah, this had been stated so many times its either a 10 year side project or a 2 year all of SE project you pick. look it up im not BSing you they have said this.

Edit: you know what, I just looked at the credits from DQ,FF7-12, and KH...yeah they share alot of the same people...dont think alot would get done..do you?

Deaths_Legion
08-11-2006, 02:34 AM
Yeah, this had been stated so many times its either a 10 year side project or a 2 year all of SE project you pick. look it up im not BSing you they have said this.

Edit: you know what, I just looked at the credits from DQ,FF7-12, and KH...yeah they share alot of the same people...dont think alot would get done..do you?

That doesn't mean anything. The people you see repeated a lot are basically the heads in their division and they supervise the different games. In the end, they get credit for it and the people in the background who actually did the work are just assigned to another job. You don't think they put everyone who worked on the game in the credits, do you? If they did, the credits would be hours long!

Malf
08-12-2006, 12:02 AM
Do you think the Final Fantasy VII remake will possibly be able to stand up to its predacessor? I mean, FF7 was just so, legendary. I don't think any remake could possibly do it honor.

just got to say FF3 is better than FF7 (tho it dont look better but the stroy is better in FF3)

KCBlack
08-12-2006, 01:36 AM
Well, I doubt there will ever be a remake (would be sweet tho) but don't forget FF7:Dirge of Cerebrus! XD Even though it's more of a sequel and it stars only Vincent, and the battle system isn't turnbased, it's something right? :P That game looks pretty awesome. Also I think there's another game of FF7 being made that is about FF7:Advent Children. I think.

Zer0Force
08-12-2006, 02:19 AM
Well, I doubt there will ever be a remake (would be sweet tho) but don't forget FF7:Dirge of Cerebrus! XD Even though it's more of a sequel and it stars only Vincent, and the battle system isn't turnbased, it's something right? :P That game looks pretty awesome. Also I think there's another game of FF7 being made that is about FF7:Advent Children. I think.


DoC isn't doing so well, it's online was/is shut down in Japan...if fact it may not even make it over. Also, there will be like only 2 other games and there Crisis Core, and Before Crisis....and i think there both about Zack i might be wrong.

MoonlightDarkness
08-12-2006, 02:25 AM
DoC isn't doing so well, it's online was/is shut down in Japan...if fact it may not even make it over. Also, there will be like only 2 other games and there Crisis Core, and Before Crisis....and i think there both about Zack i might be wrong.


DoC... is fully renovated for the US release. we'll have to see how it does in the USA.

BPMGAMER
08-12-2006, 09:11 AM
Did anyone notice there is a FFIII remake for the PSP I believe. They came up with enough time and money to make that. I do not see why they shouldn't remake FFVII. It would be retarded for them not to. Also, I think the turning away from the Turn-Based strategy of Final Fantasy is another huge mistake. Ever since FFXI (which I can uderstand why there wasn't Turn-Based gaming) they decided to change the face of two of the upcoming games. FFXII still has slow combat, but you get to move your character around which is not a huge set back. On the other hand, FFXIII is going to be played in real time. To me it sounds like they are going along with a lot of other games and turning it into a fast paced RPG like any other. That, to me, is the worst thing they could have done.

Andras
08-12-2006, 09:28 AM
there are more slow paced turn based rpgs than there are real time action rpgs

eddydigi5
08-15-2006, 05:19 AM
has anyone said this but FF7 is the most loved FF game
my fav char is vincent

eddydigi5
08-15-2006, 07:35 AM
FF7 rules and why are we arguing about it (sorry for my spelling)


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MoonlightDarkness
08-15-2006, 01:55 PM
FF7 rules and why are we arguing about it (sorry for my spelling)



because we have the right to debate...?

stel
08-15-2006, 03:49 PM
And then, 2 weeks later it was said it would take them about 10 years to finish but, thats after all the other better games are canned. So its like this: 1 game that you can play at anytime via PC or PS1 or a bunch of new storylines and better games.

dunno if ur talking bout when they released the video of it cause thats not what i'm talking about also

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=31390
http://news.spong.com/article/9303?cb=167
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lubinda
08-15-2006, 10:11 PM
ff7 legendry? HA!! ff8 now thats a game (well i havent played ff7 but from gameplayclips and stuff i think ff8 is better)

MoonlightDarkness
08-15-2006, 10:42 PM
that is why i prefer

Lionheart > Omnislash

judging how i see the limit breaks used.

stel
08-15-2006, 11:07 PM
it just depends on how you look at it most people played 7 first which raised the bar when it came to standards but since you played 8 first its different

MoonlightDarkness
08-15-2006, 11:17 PM
it just depends on how you look at it most people played 7 first which raised the bar when it came to standards but since you played 8 first its different

actually my first FF was either Final Fantasy Legends or Final Fantasy Mystic Quest... which is why i don't actually hate the two games right now >>

kidace
08-16-2006, 11:34 PM
they betta not fuckin remake ff7 they can all go to hell
i mean the movie was alright and shit but it ain't betta
than the origanal one

stel
08-17-2006, 09:10 PM
no wat i think they would do is keep the original system but upgrade the graphics

MoonlightDarkness
08-17-2006, 10:39 PM
no what i think is that they should stop making ABCs for FFVII's milk process

Advent Children
Before Crisis
Crisis Core
Dirge of Cerberus.

enough of the remakes.

stel
08-19-2006, 09:10 AM
well i'm going to get crisis core, might get DoC, FF12 is nearly good to go, FF13 is in making and i saw a video about a new MMORPG by the same team that made FF11 so i think their doing fine when it comes to making new games

Also

they betta not fuckin remake ff7 they can all go to hell
i mean the movie was alright and shit but it ain't betta
than the origanal one

hmmmm not what you said about the film b4

yo did any like final fantasy the movie i loved it cuz i bought the movie
cloud does the omishslash it was very very cool :cool:

Tsouth2541
08-28-2006, 08:29 PM
They Did Say That They Where Going To "Try" And Remake FF7 But it isnt going to be the same... The Exact Words From The Asian Dudes Mouth Was

"Final Fantasy 7 May Be Remade But Even if We Do Remake It The Story Will Not Be The Same As Final Fantasy 7 Because It's Like Ruining A Huge Hit So We Will "Try" To Make Final Fantasy: Advent Children For The PS3 Along With Some New Characters In The Story"

im not Saying That This Game Will be Remade Cuz I Might Be Lying BUT Theres Something To Hope For.

They Also Did Say That Cloud Would Be In A Upcoming Final Fantasy (Im Thinking Final Fantasy XIII)

-Tre

MoonlightDarkness
08-28-2006, 10:39 PM
They Did Say That They Where Going To "Try" And Remake FF7 But it isnt going to be the same... The Exact Words From The Asian Dudes Mouth Was

"Final Fantasy 7 May Be Remade But Even if We Do Remake It The Story Will Not Be The Same As Final Fantasy 7 Because It's Like Ruining A Huge Hit So We Will "Try" To Make Final Fantasy: Advent Children For The PS3 Along With Some New Characters In The Story"

im not Saying That This Game Will be Remade Cuz I Might Be Lying BUT Theres Something To Hope For.

They Also Did Say That Cloud Would Be In A Upcoming Final Fantasy (Im Thinking Final Fantasy XIII)

-Tre

Where Is Your Proof>

And Stop Typing Like This

zypher1005
08-30-2006, 01:45 AM
They Did Say That They Where Going To "Try" And Remake FF7 But it isnt going to be the same... The Exact Words From The Asian Dudes Mouth Was

"Final Fantasy 7 May Be Remade But Even if We Do Remake It The Story Will Not Be The Same As Final Fantasy 7 Because It's Like Ruining A Huge Hit So We Will "Try" To Make Final Fantasy: Advent Children For The PS3 Along With Some New Characters In The Story"

im not Saying That This Game Will be Remade Cuz I Might Be Lying BUT Theres Something To Hope For.

They Also Did Say That Cloud Would Be In A Upcoming Final Fantasy (Im Thinking Final Fantasy XIII)

-Tre
FUCKER! That's MY typing style! Only I Am Allowed To Type Like This!

*Charges at Tsouth*

Tsouth2541
08-30-2006, 04:31 PM
Where Is Your Proof>

And Stop Typing Like This


LOL I dont need proof and honestly i dont care if u dont beleave me cuz ima be one of the people ready for it months before they annouce the game.

And I'll type this way if i want its not your choice to make how people type.

OH AND LOL FOR THE GUY ABOVE ME
ITS MINE!!! LOL! MY TYPING STYLE!! LOL

MoonlightDarkness
08-30-2006, 11:25 PM
LOL I dont need proof and honestly i dont care if u dont beleave me cuz ima be one of the people ready for it months before they annouce the game.

And I'll type this way if i want its not your choice to make how people type.

OH AND LOL FOR THE GUY ABOVE ME
ITS MINE!!! LOL! MY TYPING STYLE!! LOL

no proof = your opinons fucking invalid.

now support it before i give harsher criticisms.

Negrac
08-31-2006, 01:57 AM
Its a sequel not a remake, you cant remake ff7 its the best game ever.


edit: Lol my bad, looked it up they ar makeing a remake... Hopefully they dont do anything to it, just make the controls work the psp has horrable contol sceme on most games it has

furyblazer
08-31-2006, 04:38 AM
they rnt gonne remake ffvii for psp
its a totally different game staring Zack...
nd they havnt confirmed a remake for ps3
there is a tech demo but there isnt enough info to jump to conclusions
i prefer them not to remake it
adding better graphics doesnt concern me at all
its incompleteness made it wat it is
if u add better graphics then n00bs will buy it nd eb lik "omg its better then psx version" when its not its the same thing
rather have psx version then a ps3 version
btw the tech demo made clouds face all scruffy

Negrac
08-31-2006, 07:25 AM
http://psp.ign.com/objects/711/711340.html



Thats on ign, they know what there talking about , But your right no remake. this is a sequal i think. so i was right the first time.. HA!!!

hian
08-31-2006, 04:34 PM
the game for the psp is a prequel... Its regarding the story before the one of FFVII and advent children...

A remake could be great. I dont see why people have problems with new and better graphics... Seriously... I mean, I would love to re-experience FFVII with better graphics.. I think FFVII is the best game ever created, but because I've completed it so many times, it has nothing else to offer me now, so in my case I would love a remake. FFVII with fresh graphics, perhaps with a few extra sidequests, and new materias, and I would be in heaven.

What really annoys me however are those gits who keep bitching about how voices would ruin a remake, because the original didn't have them(gamespot was flooded with fools like this when the FFVII tech demo for ps3 was released), and guess what : Advent children had voices(and it was released after AC was available at the int0rw3b), its allready ruined! So a remake can't possibly ruin it more... Except that I would have to buy the jap version since I hate american voices on japanese games more than everything...

So, IMO some people should stop being so damn elitist, and just admit that getting FFVII with better graphics, a soundtrack in mp3 or wave instead of midi, polished and faster paced battles, and added stuff would kick ***.
It wouldn't be better than the original, but it would allow some people, like me, to relive the magic that the original gave us(me) so long ago.

MoonlightDarkness
08-31-2006, 07:05 PM
the game for the psp is a prequel... Its regarding the story before the one of FFVII and advent children...

A remake could be great. I dont see why people have problems with new and better graphics... Seriously... I mean, I would love to re-experience FFVII with better graphics.. I think FFVII is the best game ever created, but because I've completed it so many times, it has nothing else to offer me now, so in my case I would love a remake. FFVII with fresh graphics, perhaps with a few extra sidequests, and new materias, and I would be in heaven.

A remake is not great. It only makes fanboys ignore the greatness of other final fantasys, aka FF6 and FF8. And as for FFVII as the greatest game created, i'm sure you like the pathetic sub-par plot, horrendous character design and development, and a villain that we really don't know. Don't start saying sephiroth is the villain, because he's NOT. He maybe well be the one who does all the action, but Jenova is the ACTUAL one that does everything. I'll explain that later.

And why do you think it's the best game? sure, the system was alright, and the limit break system was actually okay, but so what? If you want the game to be remade, why play it again? You already did all the things possible in the game, so why do it again, other than some tweaks there and that?

And i'm sure you're gonna say Sephiroth is the best villain, I"M positive you're gonna say this for your support. "OH HE KILLED AERIS! WHAT KIND OF VILLAIN WOULD KILL A HERO'S SIDEKICK?!"

FF6 - General Leo died by Kefka's hand
FF2 - Many heroes were dead by sacrifices from the empire's efforts
FF5 - Not quite sure, but i'm sure galuf dies in the game

What really annoys me however are those gits who keep bitching about how voices would ruin a remake, because the original didn't have them(gamespot was flooded with fools like this when the FFVII tech demo for ps3 was released), and guess what : Advent children had voices(and it was released after AC was available at the int0rw3b), its allready ruined! So a remake can't possibly ruin it more... Except that I would have to buy the jap version since I hate american voices on japanese games more than everything...

So you want the game, but you don't want the american version. make up your mind. the VAs are bound to suck in the US. Didn't you already realize that America butchers EVERY SINGLE JAPANESE GAME SHIPPED TO THE US!? Get that in your head.

So, IMO some people should stop being so damn elitist, and just admit that getting FFVII with better graphics, a soundtrack in mp3 or wave instead of midi, polished and faster paced battles, and added stuff would kick ***.
It wouldn't be better than the original, but it would allow some people, like me, to relive the magic that the original gave us(me) so long ago.

No, i think people should stop saying the idea of having a remake. The FF7 Tech Demo is called a TECH DEMO for a reason. Not for confirmation of the game being made. In fact, i think they should stop anything FF7 related. FF7 is great enough already, and it shouldn't be milked even more for profit. I used to like FF7, but now, i'm simply hating it with all these spinoffs that SE is trying to milk from the franchise. I'd rather see them finish making FFXIII and see how that goes.



... i wish i didn't do this kind of replay... stupid message short crap

Levantice
09-01-2006, 03:23 PM
If you could google, you'd be able to find you're answer. The thing is, because of the Techdemo of FF7 on the PS3, fans really liked it, now before Enix said this is just a tech-demo, its not a planning for a remake. Now they announced: You never know if there will be a remake for Final Fantasy 7, most chance there will be one, is high. (Enix news, official website (Japanese) )

MoonlightDarkness
09-01-2006, 06:35 PM
If you could google, you'd be able to find you're answer. The thing is, because of the Techdemo of FF7 on the PS3, fans really liked it, now before Enix said this is just a tech-demo, its not a planning for a remake. Now they announced: You never know if there will be a remake for Final Fantasy 7, most chance there will be one, is high. (Enix news, official website (Japanese) )

it has been confirmed that nomura will NOT make a remake due to many projects going under construction. if there is time, he will possibly make it.

hian
09-02-2006, 12:03 PM
A remake is not great. It only makes fanboys ignore the greatness of other final fantasys, aka FF6 and FF8. And as for FFVII as the greatest game created, i'm sure you like the pathetic sub-par plot, horrendous character design and development, and a villain that we really don't know. Don't start saying sephiroth is the villain, because he's NOT. He maybe well be the one who does all the action, but Jenova is the ACTUAL one that does everything. I'll explain that later.

Aha, so a remake is not great because a) you say so, and b) because you think(believe/assume etcetcetc) that it will ruin the greatness of other FF games? Aha that's logical... No wait... No it isn't. That's your personal(and very biased) opinion. Your saying you don't want a remake because it would possibly make other FF games look poorer in the eyes of FANBOYS?? Now why would it do that and WHY do you care?? And if it did, how does that affect you in any way? Furthermore you simply state : "A remake is not great" without any good arguementation for it... If there is one thing I hate more than an elitist, it's a stupid elitist. Please learn to argue.

As for me thinking FFVII is the greatest game in the world, it is a subjective opinion, because it is the one game that I have enjoyed most in my entire life, and I have played every single FF game(I even bought and played through X-2 which is saying something, not positive, about me), and frankly, the only ones I thought was any good was FF7 and FF8, from there on, everything released by sqauresoft-squareenix has sucked so fiercly I hurts...
Besides, In my opinion the plot of FF7 far exceeds that of any other FF game, and to even try to put it in the same league as earlier FF games, were as the sixth one was the only one to have real plot in any way, is totally messed up. The characters in FF7 actually had some semblence to real people, unlike earlier characters who only consisted of a bunch of knights and mages, and in later game we have... Er squall, so antisocial and emo that even real life emos fear him, besides squall was modelled after a real person, so he doesn't even count when it comes to character design... Zidane, small monkey like 14 year old horny, hormone infested, twitching little faggot... And then Tidus, designed to look like a japanese footballplayer.... And earlier final fantasy games, you couldn't really tell what the characters looked like because they were made up the same way you make rpg maker characters... Go tiny paint man!
ps. Please, If you wish to bash FF7 characters and point out to me how crappy they are, feel free to, I will enjoy reading it ;)
Well, Im not going to bash other FF games anymore, I liked them all more than most other rpgs being released.. But The suikoden series would bash the head in on earlier ff games than 7 any day in my opinion.

And why do you think it's the best game? sure, the system was alright, and the limit break system was actually okay, but so what? If you want the game to be remade, why play it again? You already did all the things possible in the game, so why do it again, other than some tweaks there and that?

I've answered that now... But I answer it more thuroughly.
I think the battle system in FF7 was(and to this day, still is) superior to any other battle system. Materias rule. Junction = SUCK, sphere = suck, class = suck(this is all my opinion of course, just saying so that you don't go mental on my *** again because you feel that you are objective and that I am fighting facts..). And I love the mini games that it's filled with.

I would play a remake, as I said BEFORE, because I have done everything possible to do, which means that returning to the game now, is a bit tedious to me. I don't think I would have to patiente to complete it from the beginning again. But I love the story. If the game was remade, it would give me new interest to rediscover everything and play it again.

And i'm sure you're gonna say Sephiroth is the best villain, I"M positive you're gonna say this for your support. "OH HE KILLED AERIS! WHAT KIND OF VILLAIN WOULD KILL A HERO'S SIDEKICK?!"

Wrong on both acounts. I wasnt going to say anything about Sephiroth, but as you brought him up, I might as well do so. But I will give you half a cookie, because I do think Sephiroth is the best villain.
It has nothing to do with aeris. That scene would have been beautifull no matter who killed her.
Sephiroth is best because he is human, and understandable unlike any other villain. He is not simply evil or something totally inane like that. The fact that you still labour under the ideas that sephiroth was controlled by the jenova cells still show how little of the FF7 story that you have grasped. If sephiroth hadn't undergone the change when he realised that he "was" a monster so to speak, he would never have done the things he did. Yes the jenova cells might have affected him somewhat, but in the end, it was the nibelheim incident that started it all.


So you want the game, but you don't want the american version. make up your mind. the VAs are bound to suck in the US. Didn't you already realize that America butchers EVERY SINGLE JAPANESE GAME SHIPPED TO THE US!? Get that in your head.

Make up my mind? It's made up. I obviously want a remake, but I will buy the japanese version. Why? Because, I speak and read japanese just fine. So I can actually take the liberty of buying it, playing it, and saying screw you to americans who get stuck with lousy voice acting. I allready know you people have that problem, but I honestly don't care and it's of no concern to me.


No, i think people should stop saying the idea of having a remake. The FF7 Tech Demo is called a TECH DEMO for a reason. Not for confirmation of the game being made. In fact, i think they should stop anything FF7 related. FF7 is great enough already, and it shouldn't be milked even more for profit. I used to like FF7, but now, i'm simply hating it with all these spinoffs that SE is trying to milk from the franchise. I'd rather see them finish making FFXIII and see how that goes.

I agree on the tech demo part. I don't think a remake is likely. It won't happen in my opinion. But I still think a remake would have been cool. Im not stupid enough to go on a rampage because I feel it's unfair for FF7 to get all the added attention, because my fav games loses focus, or because Im easily annoyed by happy fanboys etc, like certain people ;) I rather say, ok, do it if you must, and if it's done I will buy it, and enjoy it. I don't like dirge of cerberus, AC and such. I agree. They're spin-offs made to make money. However, a remake could be made to please the fans(as well as make money) instead of wasting time and money creating half-assed FF7 spin-off games...

Anyways, I've lost all faith in square-enix and final fantasy so I don't really care about their new games. I doubt I'll even buy 12... Too bad really.. Squaresoft was such a good company.

boop
09-02-2006, 02:02 PM
wow can anyone be bothered to read that wall of text?

MoonlightDarkness
09-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Aha, so a remake is not great because a) you say so, and b) because you think(believe/assume etcetcetc) that it will ruin the greatness of other FF games? Aha that's logical... No wait... No it isn't. That's your personal(and very biased) opinion. Your saying you don't want a remake because it would possibly make other FF games look poorer in the eyes of FANBOYS?? Now why would it do that and WHY do you care?? And if it did, how does that affect you in any way? Furthermore you simply state : "A remake is not great" without any good arguementation for it... If there is one thing I hate more than an elitist, it's a stupid elitist. Please learn to argue.

I already stated my reasons for why a remake isn't good. the fact that square has been milking the whole game for quick money has already angered me. Remakes are nothing but the original. They lack the charm of how the original is. And about the fanboy comment, it's a fact. I've seen many people say the next FF game they want a remake is FF7. Why? no clue, but other than label them "fanboys."

As for me thinking FFVII is the greatest game in the world, it is a subjective opinion, because it is the one game that I have enjoyed most in my entire life, and I have played every single FF game(I even bought and played through X-2 which is saying something, not positive, about me), and frankly, the only ones I thought was any good was FF7 and FF8, from there on, everything released by sqauresoft-squareenix has sucked so fiercly I hurts...
Besides, In my opinion the plot of FF7 far exceeds that of any other FF game, and to even try to put it in the same league as earlier FF games, were as the sixth one was the only one to have real plot in any way, is totally messed up. The characters in FF7 actually had some semblence to real people, unlike earlier characters who only consisted of a bunch of knights and mages, and in later game we have... Er squall, so antisocial and emo that even real life emos fear him, besides squall was modelled after a real person, so he doesn't even count when it comes to character design... Zidane, small monkey like 14 year old horny, hormone infested, twitching little faggot... And then Tidus, designed to look like a japanese footballplayer.... And earlier final fantasy games, you couldn't really tell what the characters looked like because they were made up the same way you make rpg maker characters... Go tiny paint man!
ps. Please, If you wish to bash FF7 characters and point out to me how crappy they are, feel free to, I will enjoy reading it ;)
Well, Im not going to bash other FF games anymore, I liked them all more than most other rpgs being released.. But The suikoden series would bash the head in on earlier ff games than 7 any day in my opinion.

*sigh* and this is how i'm going to point out your fanboyism.

The characters in FF7 actually had some semblence to real people, unlike earlier characters who only consisted of a bunch of knights and mages, and in later game we have...

oh? so cloud was representing someone who uses too much hairgel? Tifa was remodeled after a porn star with big boobs? Cid was representing someone who's a moody person under a midlife crisis? Yuffie an everyday thief? Barret is Mr. T? Aeris, a slutty flowergirl? Cait Sith, a robot? Vincent, an emo? Sephiroth, made after an old man with long silver hair? and don't forget Red XIII, who's going under a phase! now, tell me, are the FFVII characters really like real life characters?

r squall, so antisocial and emo that even real life emos fear him, besides squall was modelled after a real person, so he doesn't even count when it comes to character design...

There is a reason why squall acts like this. if you really enjoyed FF8, like you stated, he had social problems after ellone left. that is why he never is social. IF, and i mean IF, can you actually relate to the character, you should know by now that once your "maternal" friend leaves you and you still need her, how would you feel? it's like your mother dying, and a chunk of your life disappeared right? Hence why, later on, Squall becomes more social with Rinoa

Zidane, small monkey like 14 year old horny, hormone infested, twitching little faggot...

*sigh, once again, sterotyping someone just because of their looks. how pathetic. Fanboys once again bash without knowing the whole characters.

And then Tidus, designed to look like a japanese footballplayer....

It's blitzball. It's obviously going to be modeled after a sports player or some sort. and if i recall, japanese football is actually soccer.

And earlier final fantasy games, you couldn't really tell what the characters looked like because they were made up the same way you make rpg maker characters... Go tiny paint man!

*sigh* now you're really pissing me off. since i'm going to say that FFVII was your first final fantasy, you're nothing but a graphics whore, sterotyping the looks of the game and ignoring the great storyline in those games. FF6 by far has the best character development compared to most final fantasies. i would like you to try playing it by whatever means and see for yourself. if you don't, i'm willing to give lots of examples.

I've answered that now... But I answer it more thuroughly.
I think the battle system in FF7 was(and to this day, still is) superior to any other battle system. Materias rule. Junction = SUCK, sphere = suck, class = suck(this is all my opinion of course, just saying so that you don't go mental on my *** again because you feel that you are objective and that I am fighting facts..). And I love the mini games that it's filled with.

Materia and Junction system are the same. You draw magic from the enemy and junction magic to get addition stat support right? You put materia in your weapon to get the magic right? same concept. and IF you really hated the job class, you really are bad in a final fantasy. Tactics and Tactics Advance makes great use to the job class system, where you really have to think about the type of job you want. Do you want a tanker who can withstand lots of attacks? do you want an agile attacker that can dispatch an enemy easily? Or do you pummel enemies with your magic? those are the benefits of the job class, which is why that makes those games unique.

I would play a remake, as I said BEFORE, because I have done everything possible to do, which means that returning to the game now, is a bit tedious to me. I don't think I would have to patiente to complete it from the beginning again. But I love the story. If the game was remade, it would give me new interest to rediscover everything and play it again.

you just contradicted what you said. you want a remake, but you DON"T want to play it all over again with the hours spent. make up your mind. Do you want to play it and spend the hours again enjoying it, or do you not want to play it because it's going to be tedious?

And i'm sure you're gonna say Sephiroth is the best villain, I"M positive you're gonna say this for your support. "OH HE KILLED AERIS! WHAT KIND OF VILLAIN WOULD KILL A HERO'S SIDEKICK?!"

Wrong on both acounts. I wasnt going to say anything about Sephiroth, but as you brought him up, I might as well do so. But I will give you half a cookie, because I do think Sephiroth is the best villain.
It has nothing to do with aeris. That scene would have been beautifull no matter who killed her.
Sephiroth is best because he is human, and understandable unlike any other villain. He is not simply evil or something totally inane like that. The fact that you still labour under the ideas that sephiroth was controlled by the jenova cells still show how little of the FF7 story that you have grasped. If sephiroth hadn't undergone the change when he realised that he "was" a monster so to speak, he would never have done the things he did. Yes the jenova cells might have affected him somewhat, but in the end, it was the nibelheim incident that started it all.

I've played the game enough to see what goes on. The main villain isn't Sephiroth. once again, he was a tool: a mind-controlled person who was serving jenova's one and only purpose: to conquer and destroy the planet. If not, then of all the reasons, how the hell did sephiroth go mad for no reason? jenova controlled him. That is a fact. Sephiroth didn't go mad by himself.


So you want the game, but you don't want the american version. make up your mind. the VAs are bound to suck in the US. Didn't you already realize that America butchers EVERY SINGLE JAPANESE GAME SHIPPED TO THE US!? Get that in your head.

Make up my mind? It's made up. I obviously want a remake, but I will buy the japanese version. Why? Because, I speak and read japanese just fine. So I can actually take the liberty of buying it, playing it, and saying screw you to americans who get stuck with lousy voice acting. I allready know you people have that problem, but I honestly don't care and it's of no concern to me.


I would play a remake, as I said BEFORE, because I have done everything possible to do, which means that returning to the game now, is a bit tedious to me. I don't think I would have to patiente to complete it from the beginning again. But I love the story. If the game was remade, it would give me new interest to rediscover everything and play it again.

sounds familiar?

I agree on the tech demo part. I don't think a remake is likely. It won't happen in my opinion. But I still think a remake would have been cool. Im not stupid enough to go on a rampage because I feel it's unfair for FF7 to get all the added attention, because my fav games loses focus, or because Im easily annoyed by happy fanboys etc, like certain people ;) I rather say, ok, do it if you must, and if it's done I will buy it, and enjoy it. I don't like dirge of cerberus, AC and such. I agree. They're spin-offs made to make money. However, a remake could be made to please the fans(as well as make money) instead of wasting time and money creating half-assed FF7 spin-off games...

But you just said that you want a remake because FF7 is the king of all FFs. So why are you disappointed in FF7 getting all the attention? it's your dream come true. FF7 has the most attention of all the FFs created! And about fanboys? i suggest you look into your post about FF7 being "real-like" and the bashing of other characters. and what is this quote?

They're spin-offs made to make money. However, a remake could be made to please the fans(as well as make money) instead of wasting time and money creating half-assed FF7 spin-off games...

please, you just said that you don't like the spinoffs because of cash milking, but you now say that it's going to be great since SE is going to get more money out of it, and if i'm correct, the "fans" we can refer to as "fanboys" as pleasing to the people.

Anyways, I've lost all faith in square-enix and final fantasy so I don't really care about their new games. I doubt I'll even buy 12... Too bad really.. Squaresoft was such a good company.

So you're not going to buy 12, but you'll buy VII, despite your protest against how bad the company is going? contradiction is an amazing thing in the world.



the end. now your turn.

Spikekid
09-04-2006, 12:41 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6155700.html First Video on the right.

boop
09-04-2006, 05:16 PM
that video is really old you know

Reneon
09-04-2006, 08:58 PM
Ok I'm reading this and getting tired of hearing the same thing. Every one of us here all LOVE FF7 and would LOVE there to be a remake. K? We all get that? GOOD QUIT SAYING IT! There will NOT be one. They used it as a tech demo to show how good the graphics could be, and since everybody loves FF7, the demo was a success.

MoonlightDarkness
09-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Ok I'm reading this and getting tired of hearing the same thing. Every one of us here all LOVE FF7 and would LOVE there to be a remake. K? We all get that? GOOD QUIT SAYING IT! There will NOT be one. They used it as a tech demo to show how good the graphics could be, and since everybody loves FF7, the demo was a success.

you are a stupid and utterly ignorant fanboy.

please type /gokillyourself.

Reneon
09-16-2006, 03:06 AM
you are a stupid and utterly ignorant fanboy.

please type /gokillyourself.

Dude... stfu. It's true, you all have been saying the same thing, half say there will not be a remake and to get over it, half say there will be a remake and it would kick ***. A remake would kick *** yes but there won't be one. Now then, as for the fanboy part? I haven't played FF7 in 5 years -_- go ahead and call me whatever you want. I actually read this stuff and it's irritating. Anyone else who reads all this can probably tell you the same thing. Go fuck yourself Moonlight. Nuff said, now then, let's get on with our lives shall we?

MoonlightDarkness
09-16-2006, 05:50 PM
Dude... stfu. It's true, you all have been saying the same thing, half say there will not be a remake and to get over it, half say there will be a remake and it would kick ***. A remake would kick *** yes but there won't be one. Now then, as for the fanboy part? I haven't played FF7 in 5 years -_- go ahead and call me whatever you want. I actually read this stuff and it's irritating. Anyone else who reads all this can probably tell you the same thing. Go fuck yourself Moonlight. Nuff said, now then, let's get on with our lives shall we?


There isn't a remake. Go on google and find out.

A remake doesn't kick ***, because it's the same recycled crap that people already know.

And honestly, based on what you said, you think everyone should shut up and just wait for a FFVII remake. I for one will not wait for that shitty assed overrated piece of crap.

SorenEmblem
09-18-2006, 11:50 PM
FF7 IS a good game, but why does everyone want a remake? Sure, there would be better graphics and voiceovers, but the story wouldn't change, and to me, the story is the best part, as well as the characters. I seriously wouldn't play a game with characters with "fake" personalities that you wouldn't see someone have in real life.....but jeez.....isn't 2 sequels enough!?

Martinus
09-30-2006, 12:22 PM
Why to farm Final Fantasy 7 even more then they did? To show newbie final fantasy players how good WOULD it be with better graphics today? I do not give a damn the game is the best for me and i do not need any remake to make up my mind.

CloudAdvent
08-06-2007, 06:35 AM
eh...i think the remake idea is cool...but yea, u cant touch the greatness that we already know and love so well.

cartman
08-06-2007, 03:23 PM
i'd like remake of 789 series with top notch graphics and faster command system but that's it no more.

wwenbo
08-06-2007, 03:31 PM
I'd rather a 3rd Chrono game or another Xenogears. Or maybe another Vagrant Story.

cartman
08-07-2007, 10:13 PM
good choices. i'd like to see those.

Lord Mog
08-08-2007, 01:30 AM
I'd rather have FFVIII as a remake. It's the unsung hero of Square, and they're doing barely anything for it. FFVII is whored out to the point of no return, and it's sad.

cartman
08-08-2007, 01:48 AM
Square Enix would squeeze every life left of FFVII just for a penny. sadly they think it's the greatest game they've ever made. when you got cool spiked haired main character and long haired super villain with long sword you can always bet teens would fall for those. i like FFVIII the most though. imo it has the best storyline and best OST.

Saaaaaad
08-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Square Enix would squeeze every life left of FFVII just for a penny. sadly they think it's the greatest game they've ever made. when you got cool spiked haired main character and long haired super villain with long sword you can always bet teens would fall for those. i like FFVIII the most though. imo it has the best storyline and best OST.

Eh, I still like the FF7 story better. FF8 started off very well, and was very interesting. But it got sort of boring later on. Finding out all of them were coincidentally related because they all grew in the same orphanage was a bit too much. Also, the game's final boss had nothing to do with anyone. You just had to go to the future to stop time compression. You see nothing of ultemecia before you actually fight her. It's like they ran out of plot twists, so they just made up an enemy. It wasn't really satisfying beating the game just because by then, storywise, there was very little motivation to beat Ultemica. The game's fight system also meant you were better off NOT using magic. You just junctioned the strongest magic, and left it alone. Why use curaga when you can use recover, why cast ultima when it's keeping your strength high. It just turned into attack, draw, recover, GF, rinse and repeat. The special bosses were nice and challenging though, and the whole Seed system was very interesting.

Anonymouse
08-08-2007, 03:40 PM
no offence to all but ff7 was the easiest final fantasy to beat imo.

wwenbo
08-08-2007, 03:59 PM
no offence to all but ff7 was the easiest final fantasy to beat imo.

No 9 was definitely the easiest, and maybe tactics after you got cid.

Validity
08-08-2007, 05:37 PM
Played FF1?

Truly no difficulty there.

9's difficult if you don't know how the skills worked, I sure didn't when I first played.

8 isn't worth a remake, it looks good, has a nice soundtrack, but overall the plot remains flawed, witches, evil time compression, just a little off balance for a modern looking RPG.

7 remake seems obvious, a lot of people are fans of it, so why not upgrade it to a good looking game to get some more money? And besides, I could do use with the remake, my FF7 disc 1 is a little messed up.

wwenbo
08-08-2007, 06:39 PM
Played FF1?

Truly no difficulty there.



The original nes FF1 is probably one of the hardest, but they made it more user friendly and easy in the remakes.

MoonlightDarkness
08-10-2007, 01:56 AM
7 remake seems obvious, a lot of people are fans of it, so why not upgrade it to a good looking game to get some more money? And besides, I could do use with the remake, my FF7 disc 1 is a little messed up.


and join the other obsessed fanboys that cringe and cry about the game as holy and sanctified? no thanks. I don't need a washed up game that is overplayed, overused, and feels outdated.

I think a perfect example that was recently remade was Halo 2, and that turned out horrible.

Hitamaru
08-19-2007, 03:39 PM
Dude 'eff FF7 make a remake of FF8. I mean i didnt finish that game when my friend had it. I got FF7 like 2 years ago at K-mart for 14.95(Why did they still have FF7,I WAS CHOSEN WOOOO). They need to make that. But FF13 will probably blow FF7 to peices.

Kataal
08-19-2007, 04:18 PM
if SE really does take this ridiculous "compilation" so far as to remake FFVII. I will NOT purchase any of their products EVER again.

I'd rather a 3rd Chrono game or another Xenogears. Or maybe another Vagrant Story.

agreed. let's have some sequels and/or remakes of TRUE masterpieces.

Deaths_Legion
08-19-2007, 04:48 PM
agreed. let's have some sequels and/or remakes of TRUE masterpieces.

Oh, come ON! You know as well as I do that won't happen. This is Square we're talking about! They've finally become as big a company as they wanted, and now they want to go back and milk all the games they never made as much money off of. FF7 will definetely be thrown into the compilation somewhere down the line, but I doubt it'll be soon.

WerewolfX
08-19-2007, 04:54 PM
the truth about the FF7 remake
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65073

Deaths_Legion
08-19-2007, 05:05 PM
the truth about the FF7 remake
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65073

You know, it seems Square's been denying this a bit too hastily. O_o They keep putting down rumors almost right as soon as they appear and they "deny ever hinting at it" when they're the ones who started the rumor with the tech demo at E3. I think there's something going on in the background...

Be it a remake or a completely new game, it has to be something.

Krayze
08-19-2007, 05:29 PM
I never beat FFVII, but I beat the first disc (Only one I had) and I enjoyed, it was a decent game. I'm sure it was one of the best when it came out, but I have so many games I've fallen in love with already I'm not to sure I would worship FFVII.

Besides if I had my vote, X is better then VII :)

WerewolfX
08-19-2007, 08:38 PM
the game is far over rated in my opinion there were ALOT better FF games out there.
also there will never be a sequel to Xenogears since they sold the right to namco.

wwenbo
08-19-2007, 11:49 PM
the game is far over rated in my opinion there were ALOT better FF games out there.
also there will never be a sequel to Xenogears since they sold the right to namco.

I'm pretty sure square still owns Xenogears, the xenogears team went to namco. They made Xenosaga which share many similarities with xenogears. But unless square sells the rights to namco or those guys go back to square there probably wont be a true sequel or prequel.

MoonlightDarkness
08-20-2007, 12:12 AM
atleast they're remaking front mission super famicom... atleast i'm happy with that..

WerewolfX
08-20-2007, 12:39 AM
no i'm pretty sure they sold them since namco couldn't make a game with the xeno name in it either way.

Randomhero204
08-23-2007, 09:45 PM
there is going to be a FFVII:Source for the hl2 engine or atleast there was suppose to... I remember like a year ago I read about it, I dont remember the site or anything. I looked it up again a few months ago but never bookmark'd the page so i forgot it again lol...few months ago it was still alive idk about now last i remember they where recruiting skinners or something.

wwenbo
08-24-2007, 02:20 AM
there is going to be a FFVII:Source for the hl2 engine or atleast there was suppose to... I remember like a year ago I read about it, I dont remember the site or anything. I looked it up again a few months ago but never bookmark'd the page so i forgot it again lol...few months ago it was still alive idk about now last i remember they where recruiting skinners or something.

It would be awesome if that was true. They should definitely make it a fps action rpg like Oblivion and use the physics, that would be soooo sweet.

Cripstar
08-26-2007, 08:02 AM
I liked Final Fantasy VIII out of all of them. But Final Fantasy VII takes second place. If a remake of Final Fantasy VII was too be made.. I might buy it.. unless the characters had voices but were totally retarded.

zoracite
08-26-2007, 01:16 PM
FF7 is way overrated .. >_>
If there was gonna be a remake, id rather want it to be FF6 or FF9.

wwenbo
08-26-2007, 04:57 PM
I think they are remaking 4-6 in 3d for the ds.