let's face it a game that doesnt have a pvp sorta kills the purpose of competative gaming. or is it not supposed to be competative? then that would kill the purpose of the game being online. darn this is a real situation huh? let the public tell is what they think.

Whats much point of PvP in a 2d world? Lolx i dont see.. sins and other ranged classes are always gonna win.. bandits and warriors wont have much chance.

I seem to piss people off too much by looking "gay" I would get killed constantly.

Well, perhaqps Pvp would mean a new balancing of the classes. Look at Warriors! They would definitely have a hard time with all the ranged damage theyd be getting.

I think that some sort of PvP contest like capture the flag or base or king of the hill would be more apt!

pvp in maplestory will never work.

i) the classes are too unbalanced. range>>>>melee (so what if they have more health?)

ii) if wizet decides to make it more balanced by reducing the range/damage of sins and hunters and mages. then who would want to play maplestory anymore? not like we are that happy with what sins/hunters/mages have now anyway.

pvp in ms = screwed up game. imma uninstall it

it would be cool of ms had pvp but....
1)classes are unbalanced
2)there is no way u can target a specific person
3)if there is more than 20 ppl spamming skills at one another most ppl would lag
4)even if they nerf the damages in pvp clerics would just spam heal as their is no casting time or lag time....

pvp is easier for 3d mmo's cuz u can target a specific person while in a 2d mmo u cant

itd be cool if they did like an arena for it, with prizes and weapons to win, you could enter and only use spells and gladiator amour that you get there nothing from outside so the only advantage would be you stats and lvl.

You know basically I agree with what everyone said. Warriors would die soo badly unless they gave us a skill that could only be used in a PVP area/mode. Maybe like an extra 20 strength or something?

Besides I don't think Maple is even meant to be that kind of competative. It's a team thing.

It's a team thing.

tell that to the killstealers:o

itd be cool if they did like an arena for it, with prizes and weapons to win, you could enter and only use spells and gladiator amour that you get there nothing from outside so the only advantage would be you stats and lvl.
I had similar thoughts: a 'Guild v. Guild' function.

I wanted to make a hack/mod where you could fight other online players, but I know nothing about modding/hacking/coding, and neither do my friends. D=

PvP would be stupid kinda cause...

sin - can just shadow meso + L7
bandit - meso gaurd, meso steal, sb, meso explosion
archers - no idea
warriors - dragon knight = roar as soon as it starts
- crusader = lion roar as soon as it starts
- page = no idea
mage - magic gaurd (omg)
ice mage - tele, lighting spear
fire mage - tele, fart, run
priests - doom

PvP would be stupid kinda cause...

sin - can just shadow meso + L7
bandit - meso gaurd, meso steal, sb, meso explosion
archers - no idea
warriors - dragon knight = roar as soon as it starts
- crusader = lion roar as soon as it starts
- page = no idea
mage - magic gaurd (omg)
ice mage - tele, lighting spear
fire mage - tele, fart, run
priests - doom

Archers are screwed!! XD Okay, Hunters have Arrow Bomb... so stun? Haha Snipers have... Ice Shot... :p

Archer have ranged attacks, jump shots, strafe, etc.

Archer have ranged attacks, jump shots, strafe, etc.
you cant really consider them a true jump shot.
you shot from the position and then your charcter jumps :D
and mages can do the jump shoot too :D
But archer ish not screwd
hunters get the stunning attack ArrowBomb
Xbows(at level 70) get ice shot and iron arrow kicks ***.

The point of the game is to be the highest level. And jsut to talk to your friends and stuff like that .

yeah, i agree. ms is about making friends and getting to high levels. XD

i reaaaaally dont like pvp...
us bandits would get owned by sins and bowmen..
next thing you know sins make an army and kill us bandits as a whole!!

it would probably work if certain characters had more life. Like, i mean a WAY lot more life because i can do damage that is enough to kill me in one hit.

it would probably work if certain characters had more life. Like, i mean a WAY lot more life because i can do damage that is enough to kill me in one hit.

hes right.
the only character that would stand more than one hit are...
warriors
mage (with mg)
bandit (with meso gaurd)

but i just relised that warriors would be usless to fight theifs cause we wont even have 1% chance of hitting them probably... with their HIGH avoidability...

but if melee gets close to the range , the range gets owned.

The only reason i want a PvP is because i want a real fight than yelling at eachother Noobs ect ect.

but if melee gets close to the range , the range gets owned.
well if you take a star theif and a White knight of the same level
The whiteknight gets close
Swins the blizzard charged wepon MISS
star theif hastes and runs away
strats L7ing
warrior just got owned.

uhh wats a pvp?:confused:

uhh wats a pvp?:confused:
Player Vs Player its in some games where you can kill other players
its not uncommon but if it ever happened in maplestory they would loose so much business it wouldtn help either once someone died theyd know never to try again.
Classes are balanced against monsters but not against other palyers.

ohhhh thanks

ohhhh thanks
Nooo problem

lets face it...ms wasnt designed to handle pvp. Its just that simple. balancing the classes would just prompt the nerfed class to stop playing, then everyone would be warriors (and maybe archers). And thats no fun. Also....

HI MOM!!!!! :D

lets face it...ms wasnt designed to handle pvp. Its just that simple. balancing the classes would just prompt the nerfed class to stop playing, then everyone would be warriors (and maybe archers). And thats no fun. Also....

HI MOM!!!!! :D
The contract you signed siad if you do that you get fired so.....
HI DAD X_X
:D COME TO ZE BROAAAAA
and yea frezins right definatly.
Warriors get owned by ranged classes and there speed boosters.

i like how someone suggested a pvp as in a competative contest or something like that as in capture the flag etc

haha capture the flag would be sick! but yea what if the pvp was just like getin in a ring and smackin eachother wit clubs and both were equal wit hp mp and they had power ups like a haste coins and other power high lv skills that would still be fun ? or MAYBE if it was lvling in pvp so like even if u had a lvl 100 you would start a at lvl 1 in pvp and as you win you lvl up your pvp lvl?OH and you could only fight ppl your rank or something? AND ALSOOOO like if they dident force you to use certain weps there was still power ups on the map soooo. well it would be liek this

(dragonKnight in da blue corner!! Hermit in the Red!!Both starting wit same hp and mp but with mp at zero meaning no skillz( also they would have same speed/jump unless power up used!)
(both race for mp power up so they can use ther skills!)
(HAH dragon knight gets mp power up + haste Hermit only get mp)
(Dk rushes hermit taking minor L7 dmg AND #$^#$% his $#%#$% ALL UP)
but yea just an idea haha.XD

i still am not liking PVP due to EXP losses.

i havent seen a pvp where you lose exp if there is i'd like to know what game that is

i havent seen a pvp where you lose exp if there is i'd like to know what game that is

Ragnarok Online.

let's face it a game that doesnt have a pvp sorta kills the purpose of competative gaming. or is it not supposed to be competative? then that would kill the purpose of the game being online. darn this is a real situation huh? let the public tell is what they think.Not at all the "purpose" of roleplaying games being online is so you can interact with other people instead of some limited test saying npc. The idea that online games are for player vs player was made by idiots like you and is truly false.

Not at all the "purpose" of roleplaying games being online is so you can interact with other people instead of some limited test saying npc. The idea that online games are for player vs player was made by idiots like you and is truly false.
one word besides dam straight PWNT

i dont know why anyone would want a pvp in maplestory
that would make people more pissed off

Well....you just lost a bet.The thought of it is cool, but when you put it in reality, and think straight, it sounds really dumb. It could be fair, if teleport was nuked,and so was haste. Also, it would be neat if you had to ask someone to PvP. If the player accepts, an arua emits around them, and you cant escape, and their is a certain size limit. That way, people can't run, haste and tele don't work. Sin's wont be asses and jump back shooting as much. and so on. But overall, this would never happen in MS.

Ok, we know now PvP wont work..In my opnion i dont like PvP in games..(Every game)

Unless its something like CounterStrike or something ^^

nah, is going to be unfair and complicated since mage have really low life, yes they may be able to use magic guard but warrior or bandits does much more damage O.o
this is just my opinion T_T usually I don't lie pvp like ultima online and stuff like that caz I always get kill lol :)

Whats much point of PvP in a 2d world? Lolx i dont see.. sins and other ranged classes are always gonna win.. bandits and warriors wont have much chance.

warriors would kill everyone if they went close..

hey i dont know what deathend is but he shouldnt be going around calling people idiots

na pvp would just encourage all the assholes to kill us if we don't trade/change channel..basiclly it would stop all defaming and promote random acts of violence

on the other hand pwning noobs on maple island with a lvl 1x pure str beginner would be fun *evil grin*

Besiides,think about tthis, if you are a dragon knight, with maxed out dragon roar,then everyone would die. BAM ROARRR!!!! annd they can double there hp and mp so ttheyy dont die, so i thinnk they wouuld be the ultimate killing classs and the ranged characttterss 2. But still it would be funnny.XD

warriors would kill everyone if they went close..
Too bad they would miss.

Outcome of any fight is determined by about 3 basic factors:
1) Skill of the player
2) Luck (including things like lag)
3) PwrLvl: items, skills, and other stuff accumulated by the character.


Let's see how important these are in various genres:
MMORPGS
Most important factor: Level.
Secondary factor: Luck.
Tertiary factor: Skill.
Result: When you're lower level, you're PWNT by the idiots/assholes who play 24/7 since beta. Or hackers.
When you lag you're killed by random assholes.
If you _are_ an asshole you probably enjoy ruining the day for others. And I hate you. >:(

If they ever are interesting fights, they are rare occurence.


CounterStrike and other FPS games:
Most important factor: Skill.
Secondary factor: Luck. (quite important though)
Tertiary factor: Equipment bought/found in the map.
Result: Interesting fights. Sometimes frustrating if you get unlucky a couple of times in a row. Or if there is an asshole spawn-camping. But overall stimulating experience. :D

Rock-paper-scrissors:
Most important factor: Luck.
Secondary factor: none.
Result: Only good for determining who does the next chore. Not really a game. -_-

Logic games like Omok, or Go (http://senseis.xmp.net/)
Most important factor: Skill.
Secondary factor: Luck.
Tertiary factor: none!
Result: Interesting fights, pure battle of skill. If your skill is at least moderate, so you can focus on tactics/strategy, the game may be great fun. Addicting fun even. XO


Let's just face it, ok?
Maple Story is a MMORPG.
A character of level N is expected to lose to a character of level N+1.
That's like, the deal behind the concept of level.
Hence, the fights are not going to be fun in any normal way.

If you want fun PvP, play Omok minigame.

If only other classes were undeads and there was pvp...That would be awesome

PVP could work, its just that we would need a system where it doesnt matter what class ex. you get a special Weapon for PVP where the Attack is fixed and no one would have any special advantage (Sucky but Equal)XO

its like this for maple story to beable to pvp, you would need designated area's of it, a punishment for killing tons of people, big punishments for killing low lvls, NO XP LOSS FOR DYING THERE, and to give warriors the big evening out, the terrain would have to be mostly small uneven platforms, that would even the battle out. think about it, mage/archer/thief attacks from distance, but uneven ground makes it hard to hit and easier to dodge, giving daggers thieves& warriors nice terrain advantage, which would matter. In a battle terrain always matters, 100000000000000000000 fully supplied troops could lose to 1 peasant, if the ground they were on collapsed beneath them and they fell to their death, while the peasant looted the drops.

so i guess this means that it's just meant to suck in that aspect
let's face it co-op is nice but all this game is catch up and that's pretty lame

Meh who says that things can't be changed for pvp? It doesn't have to be the exact same settings as normal gameplay. For ex. when you enter pvp, your abilities could be all nerfed, so lvl or class wouldn't matter. And in pvp you'd get like osme certain pvp skills that all players would get (that you would be able to use in pvp only of course), so there's no advantage or disadvantage. Also pvp could have it's own leveling system, but your pvp levle wouldn't give you THAT great of an advantage as normal lvl would. For exmple there would be lvl 1 through lvl 5 pvp, and at lvl 5 you're maxed out completely, and would have a slight advantage over a lvl 1 pvp.
OR, pvp could be like whoever kills the most monsters in 1 min wins or something.
There's many other different ways for pvp to be able to be implemented.

I tried suggesting things like that many many times and no one ever listens and just goes OMG LVL 150 WOULD OWN ALL LOL EVERYONE WOULD GO AROUDN KILLING EVERYBODY.

so i guess this means that it's just meant to suck in that aspect
let's face it co-op is nice but all this game is catch up and that's pretty lame

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This thread is a month old. Please don't bump Triple

You guys are saying warrior would get owned... but i say warriors would do the owning... sins and archers have around 2-3k HP.... while a lvl 120 dk can do dragonroar and do 5K+ and kill everything ^_^. Also it wouldn't be the PVP that you can get pked out of nowhere... but you must enter a zone to pvp... you could also have guild wars and stuff... it'll be really fun.. Also all those assholes that say they all that and can ks you... then you could just pvp their *** and show them how strong they are...

while a lvl 120 dk can do dragonroar and do 5K+ and kill everything ^_^.


i agree.

warriors (dk) - spamming dragon roar

archer - spamming arrow rain/eruption

mage - teleporting and healing themselves

assassins - flash jumping and attacking above everyone else with a low chance of getting hit

bandits - their money for meso explo just picked up :D


ALL CLASSES
just buy 21304980394 pots and spam

there would be a certain place for pvp and there would be no knocking back becuz then range would be way to good. u would also start a couple feet apart from each other.