yeah well, ive been looking everywhere, i personally dont like giving up my life for a game, i just want a nice 3d mmorpg that isnt runescape (pronounced differently, runescape could perhaps be run-escape), well anyways, if anyone is currently playing a good non grind game they'd like to recomend, just post here

Guild Wars & WoW are pretty easy MMOs.

yeah, i meant free lol

Free online games are meant for grinding since you need to stay on the game for so long. Cabal online can also be categorized as a non-grind game since the quests are so many that you can't even catch up. But it is P2P.

Cabal Online is currently available on Europe only.

sorry dude to say this but even P2P games are grind sooner or later evry game is grind if there werent grind games the game would be 1 to lvl100 in 1 day that wouldnt be grind but if it was no grind the lvls would be like 6million
so evry game got grind even WoW and i played it :3 and i got guildwars and FF11 CD's laying in my room somewhere and i got 9 guildwars account soon i sell 2 account for 40 euro ^_^ :3

Guildwars can feel like a grind if the story wasnt there lmao....cabal isnt too grindy the quest give u a min of 4000xp at lvl 13 and up even 12k once

if the Cabal quests are same as they were in CB then its kinda repeative. I mean like all quests are same.. speak with some npc, speak with some npc.. done. Kill certain amount of mobs.. done. Dungeon clearing quests are fun at beginning, but when you do it for like 20 lvls you start to feel frusrating. You could try some games like: Myth War, Nostale, Trickster, Turf Battle, Knight Online. Yes, like DarkSin already stated, every game has grinding sometimes, but those games I mentioned have something else besides just levelling, like you can train pet, PvP, Drill etc...

play pristontale regular server then

Titans, Im sorry to say that private servers or advertising them isnt allowed in onrpg.

sorry how to delete im new here

grinding is up to you, you pick to grind or not.. the game doesn't make you grind it's you.

Tell me if you find a grindless mmo, because im still looking for one.

sorry dude to say this but even P2P games are grind sooner or later evry game is grind if there werent grind games the game would be 1 to lvl100 in 1 day that wouldnt be grind but if it was no grind the lvls would be like 6million
so evry game got grind even WoW and i played it :3 and i got guildwars and FF11 CD's laying in my room somewhere and i got 9 guildwars account soon i sell 2 account for 40 euro ^_^ :3

hehe try Ultima Online and say its grind
best game ever made but bad graphic for you guys i think
in some months there will be a official update (Ultima Online: Kingdom Reborn)
- dont know if you have to buy or just download it like the other updates - that includes better graphic
before:
http://www.vis.uni-stuttgart.de/ger/teaching/lecture/ws04/seminar_spiele/mmo/uo.jpg
after:
http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0608/ultima-online&a=47377&s=1

there are lot of freeshards out there
love it or hate it

hehe try Ultima Online and say its grind
best game ever made but bad graphic for you guys i think
in some months there will be a official update (Ultima Online: Kingdom Reborn)
- dont know if you have to buy or just download it like the other updates - that includes better graphic
before:

after:


there are lot of freeshards out there
love it or hate it


i still win evry game got grind and i finnaly found 1 that i dun mind grinding cause its so fun to do:3 all game got grind even pirate server no1 can dissagree with me evry1 played 1 time 1 :D (not advertising just saying)
and i then mean evry1 played it maybe even mods played once a while on a pirate we all dun know (not saying you do play on 1 but could be)
and i played ultima online even that game has grind amigo:3 games without grind isnt game

i still win evry game got grind and i finnaly found 1 that i dun mind grinding cause its so fun to do:3 all game got grind even pirate server no1 can dissagree with me evry1 played 1 time 1 :D (not advertising just saying)
and i then mean evry1 played it maybe even mods played once a while on a pirate we all dun know (not saying you do play on 1 but could be)
and i played ultima online even that game has grind amigo:3 games without grind isnt game

when you say killing a monster is grind than it is grind
but you can play the game without killing monster
makin a worker for example a blacksmith
makin weapons and armor and selling it to other players
buying a house and maybe a garden with some aple trees or something
go on a treasure hunt bla bla bla

a grind game is for me a game which the only way to improve your character is to kill monster and that a lot of
and the only thing you can do is killing monster

Ultima Online ISNT A GRIND GAME

and the game makes fun after you reached in 7skills 100points you can go on castle sieges, making guildes and fight each other, be a part of an event and and and

killing monster is a little part of the game not the MAIN part as grind games

*put the j---t off*

They are mmos but..... http://rakion.softnyx.net and http://www.gunzonline.com rakions kept me occupied the longest see if you like either one. If your into hack'nslash pvp pick rakion .... if you want to play a matrix type 3rd person shooter game play gunzonline

when you say killing a monster is grind than it is grind
but you can play the game without killing monster
makin a worker for example a blacksmith
makin weapons and armor and selling it to other players
buying a house and maybe a garden with some aple trees or something
go on a treasure hunt bla bla bla

a grind game is for me a game which the only way to improve your character is to kill monster and that a lot of
and the only thing you can do is killing monster

Ultima Online ISNT A GRIND GAME

and the game makes fun after you reached in 7skills 100points you can go on castle sieges, making guildes and fight each other, be a part of an event and and and

killing monster is a little part of the game not the MAIN part as grind games

*put the j---t off*

for blacksmit what you said you must be a particular lvl cause you need material for making weapons got more to say about this 1 you can ppl let you bring material but you have to pay them uhm you need to buy all needed stuff for blacksmith so it always go's back to lvling :3 and if yur being blacksmit something like that you need to upgrade yur skills that could be a grind to so all games are grinding with or with out lvling :3 but you can grind in browser games :D cause you just have to talk

They are mmos but..... http://rakion.softnyx.net and http://www.gunzonline.com rakions kept me occupied the longest see if you like either one. If your into hack'nslash pvp pick rakion .... if you want to play a matrix type 3rd person shooter game play gunzonline

Lawls.
Gunz, the biggest dissapointment ever.
They never updated it.
And havent
And probably never will.
I would suggest you play some shooting games, they arent really grind.
It takes actual skill to play them too,
not how much time you waste your life on stupid videogames.

Speaking about Gunzonline (cause he was talking about mmorpgs only) I recommend you at least try it, its still fun without updates (it has been updates many times before).
Back to mmorpgs, many old mmorpgs (UO, RS, Dransik) doesnt require you grind that much, however the graphics arent the best. Most of the cool graphics games are also based on cool skills, and cool characters, which also mean alot of grinding.

Grinding is inevitable. Even on offline RPG's like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and such you tend to grind to raise your levels to easily defeat bosses.

Every game is a grind.

Take "Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy" for instance. This was one of the first games to come out with the PS2. At the start, you watch a movie, then grind to get "precursor orbs" (an integral part of the game, like currency). Then you give the orbs to some other person to get a "power cell" (you need all 101 to beat the game).

Now, take "World of Warcraft" for example. You start off getting a quest to kill some mobs. So you go off and grind killing the mobs, then you hand in that quest to get another quest to grind some more.

Every game is a grind fest'. There are no games that do not involve grinding.

True True... grinding is essential.. only difference made is do that MMO have quest or not.

This game doesnt Grind Check It Out :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mma-c6oCN8U

This game doesnt Grind Check It Out :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mma-c6oCN8U

ROFLMAO!

Oh yeah, a game that doesn't grind. XD

On topic:
I guess, you better start looking for a game that has LESS grinding instead of NO GRINDING at all. If ever you find a game without grinding. Please let us know.

Lawls.
Gunz, the biggest dissapointment ever.
They never updated it.
And havent
And probably never will.
I would suggest you play some shooting games, they arent really grind.
It takes actual skill to play them too,
not how much time you waste your life on stupid videogames.

it was updated a couple weeks ago. and if you think a couple weeks is never..i guess we're never going to school

grinding has become a tradtion in online gaming. no such thing as a grindless game. for less grind, u could try dragongem. google it. its ftp.

for blacksmit what you said you must be a particular lvl cause you need material for making weapons got more to say about this 1 you can ppl let you bring material but you have to pay them uhm you need to buy all needed stuff for blacksmith so it always go's back to lvling :3 and if yur being blacksmit something like that you need to upgrade yur skills that could be a grind to so all games are grinding with or with out lvling :3 but you can grind in browser games :D cause you just have to talk

lol what?
there is no lvl in UO
skills increase by using it
maybe u played on a freeshard with lvl feature but this is gay
and there are freeshards u gain skill by roleplaying -acting like real- gaining roleplaying points which u can spend in skills/stats
far away from grind like in martial heroes

Since more than just rumors we have finally found some proof:
http://fgames.4.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1105

INGAME TRAILER (it starts when you first play)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr3WH6KMFQk

I want everyone to know about this wonderful game, I know that there is still no website and stuff and someone have already tried the game in korean/japanese/Taiwan but others maybe still haven't done that, so...
(All the information are from the wikipedia page about Mabi)

WE WANT MABINOGI NOW
And if you want this game to be realeased soon, just email http://www.kru.com/ about it!
They are in charge of the mabi US release, just click to this link and say what you have to do:
https://support.kru.com/?_a=tickets&_m=submit

http://www.gpara.com/special/pickup/mabinogi/img/mabinogi-logo.jpg

Mabinogi (Hangul:마비노기) is an online role-playing game released by Nexon, inspired by Celtic mythology.
The Welsh word mabinogi is found in the original manuscripts of the Mabinogion.

ENJOING THE WORLD

This fantasy role-playing game pits your character against the entire world of Mabinogi, Erinn, where you can choose to pursue monsters, quests and money, just develop the abiltiy to make amazing items, or enjoy your time in front on a campfire where you can burn food.

http://ch.kitaguni.tv/u/350/Mabinogi/0000196365_img.jpeg

CHARACTER CREATION

When creating a character, one may choose an age between 10 years and 17 years-old. The character will advance one year in age every (real) Saturday. Different ages yield different initial stats and affect the amount of stats raised in a Level-Up.

http://file.mabinogi.com/data/20/1/g2_00_05.jpg


Rebirthing is one important factor of the game. One can choose to use a Character Card for rebirthing one of their characters instead of creating new one. Rebirthing allows the player to change the character's gender/age/appearance and reset the character's level back to 1 while keeping character's previously gained skills. As it gets gradually harder to gain more levels as your level becomes higher, and since all skills require a great amount of Ability Points (see below) at a higher rank, there's a limit to character improvement if you don't take advantage of rebirthing.

Performing different tasks and eating different kinds of foods changes the appearance of the characters. It may change their body shape and may also raise/lower some of their stats. Players may play music composed by other players using musical instruments.

Each (real world) day of the week grants players specific bonuses, such as getting a higher experience rate for certain skills, higher item creation success, aging, gaining AP, etc.

The game is now at the Generation 5 stage, which added a whole new breed for players to choose from, the Elves.
(Elvan character creation movie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_hotuYVJhw

Within Mabinogi, each character can develop a large number of skills, though it is recommended that one should focus on a few particular skills at the beginning. By practicing certain skills, such as cooking, fighting or playing instruments, the experience for these skills (and also for character level) will go up.

However Ability Points (obtained when the player levels up, ages or has completed important quests) are required to take each skill up a level, and this system runs so that rank F is the most inexperienced, and increases to rank A, then from rank 9 to 1, i.e. 1 is the strongest it is possible to be in a certain field. Skill levels cannot be lowered once it's advanced, unless a Skill Untrain Capsule is used (only available to part of the subscribers).

Additionally, the AP required for gaining rank may differ between Humans and Elves in certain skills.

Some trade skills (e.g. fishing) are also mini-games.

Below is a partial list of skills in Mabinogi:
http://ch.kitaguni.tv/u/350/Lifestyle/Game/0000195317_img.jpeg
* Life Skills
This group contains trade skills and all other skills that don't fit the two categories below.
o Fishing
o Cooking
o Handicraft
o First Aid
o Smithing
o Tailoring
o Weaving
o Herbalism
o Campfire
o Rest
o Refine
o Potion Making
o Making Mastery (raises the success rate for all trade skills and increases character's maximum amount of stamina)
o Playing instrument
o Composing (through use of Music Markup Language)
o Musical Knowledge
* Battle Skills
This group includes melee and ranged combat skills and their more advanced form.
o Melee Combat Mastery
o Defence
o Smash (can break the Defense skill)
o Melee Counter Attack
o Windmill (a kind of emergency-move; you can attack all enemies nearby with cost of losing 10% of Life)
o Critical Hit
o Ranged Combat Mastery
o Magnum Shot
o Support Shot
o Sharp Mind (allowing the player to directly know the enemies' next move)
o Arrow Revolver
o Final Hit
* Magic Skills
This group contains 3 lines of elemental magic that each perform differently, other non-elemental magic and their more advanced forms.
o Magic Mastery (Increases character's maximum amount of mana)
o Ice Bolt
o Fire Bolt
o Lightning Bolt
o Healing
o Enchant
o Meditation
o Fireball
o Thunder
o Party Healing
o Ice Spear


Character Upgrade
The possibility to change in a Paladin or a Dark Knight (the pet too):

http://captaingundam.paslog.jp/image/mabinogi_2006_02_23_039.jpg

Dungeons
A separate dungeon instance is spawned for every unique type of item thrown on the platform before the statue of the goddess in the entrance hall of a dungeon. Dungeons in one region share similar interior appearance, however each dungeon spawns different kinds of enemies and the dungeons CHANGE THEIR MAP EVERYTIME YOU GET IN.

http://pds.egloos.com/pds/1/200505/18/74/b0054374_20335064.jpg






And there are lots of events and features like marriage...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxvShwVxE0Y&mode=related&search=

...Massive Dungeon PVP...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhoQxEahwDI&mode=related&search=

...and PETS PVP too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE_2mIkVtho&mode=related&search=





So yeah,pray that they don't giving up doing it like they did on 2004 (I miss the old forums).:D
Why'd i quote it?..Now that wouldn't be fun would it /sarcrasm

sounds very cool
the graphic isnt that good but better than other games
hope they will release it

will it be f2p?

grinding is not in every game

www.turfbattles.com Non grind mmo and its free to play

when you say killing a monster is grind than it is grind
but you can play the game without killing monster
makin a worker for example a blacksmith
makin weapons and armor and selling it to other players
buying a house and maybe a garden with some aple trees or something
go on a treasure hunt bla bla bla

a grind game is for me a game which the only way to improve your character is to kill monster and that a lot of
and the only thing you can do is killing monster

Ultima Online ISNT A GRIND GAME

and the game makes fun after you reached in 7skills 100points you can go on castle sieges, making guildes and fight each other, be a part of an event and and and

killing monster is a little part of the game not the MAIN part as grind games

*put the j---t off*

A grind game, is any game that the only way to improve your character is by repetitive actions. For instance, Killing monsters to gain experience, is grinding. Also, if you standing there swinging a pickaxe at a rock to mine (or something similar), in order to gain materials to sell, that is also grinding.

There are very very few games that offer things other than grinding. This is because these types of games are proven to be successful, I think that is exactly what will be the downfall of the MMO genre.

*edit: Oops old thread*

. . . .. . . . You know people would take this seriously if this tread wasn't made


Auguest, 2006

and now its

December 2007.

Its okay though, peple make mistakes~

*edit: Oops old thread*

do you want us to believe u inadvertently posted in a year old thread?

there should be a rule about blatant necroposting...

do you want us to believe u inadvertently posted in a year old thread?

there should be a rule about blatant necroposting...

> >

Arc its 5, 6 or 7 in the morning. If I had a hangover I would do the same.


Oh wait. . .

do you want us to believe u inadvertently posted in a year old thread?

there should be a rule about blatant necroposting...

Wow, kind of hostile there eh?

This thread came up on google, and I didn't realize it was old. Very sorry to cause you inconvenience.

Wow, kind of hostile there eh?

This thread came up on google, and I didn't realize it was old. Very sorry to cause you inconvenience.

Googling things is bad, you get flamed.

Anyways, I have to gooo D: I'l be back at 2:10. >>;; (High School~) Bai~

Wow, kind of hostile there eh?

This thread came up on google, and I didn't realize it was old. Very sorry to cause you inconvenience.

mmmm....ok,u got me there.that happens
my apologies

do you want us to believe u inadvertently posted in a year old thread?

there should be a rule about blatant necroposting...

At least he added something constructive to the thread. Its pretty obvious he didn't do it on purpose.