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AkuxDragon
05-27-2006, 08:15 PM
I see an even amout of people using swords and kodachis running around the place. I tried kodachis once...but i didnt' like it for butterflying...maybe i was just too noob back then =X. well, tell me what you guys think about swords vs. kodachis

Xynh
05-27-2006, 09:21 PM
I've never tried using kodachis so I can't really help on this one.

I've used swords 95% of the time.
Daggers 5% of the time.

illgamez
05-28-2006, 12:52 AM
i think kodachis are faster

TestamentX00
05-28-2006, 01:06 AM
Kodachi 'is' faster. That's why it has less attack than that of a regular sword. Intruth the Kodachi 'can' be stronger if you master its use. Many use it for the butterfly technique, scares newbs shitless(even though butterfly is usually defenseless if you observe how the person uses it. I ussually stand still abit and never get hit by their shotguns. They never expect you not to move.), the Kodachi Combo(Where they jump, charge, and basically jump and slash around you. Real annoying if they get you in a corner since it's so fast), and other stuff.:cool:

Xynh
05-28-2006, 06:20 AM
Hmm, that makes me wanna try out kodachis.. :P
I'll make a project character on kodachis and see the outcome. :]

illgamez
05-28-2006, 04:20 PM
Kodachi 'is' faster. That's why it has less attack than that of a regular sword. Intruth the Kodachi 'can' be stronger if you master its use. Many use it for the butterfly technique, scares newbs shitless(even though butterfly is usually defenseless if you observe how the person uses it. I ussually stand still abit and never get hit by their shotguns. They never expect you not to move.), the Kodachi Combo(Where they jump, charge, and basically jump and slash around you. Real annoying if they get you in a corner since it's so fast), and other stuff.:cool:
Yea but which is better slower attacks and high damage or faster attacks and "medium" damage?

Tyson03
05-28-2006, 04:22 PM
Kodachis in my opinion make wall cancelling the easiest thing to do in the world, O_O

illgamez
05-28-2006, 04:31 PM
Wow i need to try kodachis i have'nt used them in a while

illgamez
05-28-2006, 08:24 PM
Wow i need to try kodachis i have'nt used them in a while
Sorry again about double posting im really bored today....... but i tried kodachis and there easy to wall cancel with

Whist
05-29-2006, 07:08 AM
if you're going to b-fly, kodachi's just add more weight and do less damage, the only thing they're good for is ground combos, making noobs afraid, and uppercut movement (since you jump in the air you can move forward while you uppercut)

however, if you plan on b-flying (which you should) both weapons will go as fast as you can butterfly them. Swords weigh less and do more damage in a hit. You get no bonus hit from kodachis in butterfly thus making it no contest compared to a sword.

China-town
05-29-2006, 07:43 AM
The uppercut movement isnt very reliable with the kodachi cause once u hit it u cant stop it. With a sword i found it much more dificult to "uppercut" cause it has a very narrow hit angle and the kodachis have almost a 90 degree angle

Whist
05-29-2006, 03:21 PM
you can preform the (not the real name, nor do I think it has a name) "uppercut bfly" with kodachi's better though. But you won't get much useout of it except in gladiator matches.
Just right click > block. Not recommended as a move to constantly use.

TestamentX00
05-29-2006, 04:43 PM
You can counter getting uppercutted. You just press speace afew times and you'll do a semi-flip and you'll land on your two feet instead of your back. That usually annoys the type of people that depend on that. Since they tend to charge you when you're in the air to try and fill with you with lead.

Xynh
05-29-2006, 04:46 PM
I'll stick to sword, because I can Bfly at the same speed with both of them..

AkuxDragon
05-29-2006, 05:06 PM
if you're going to b-fly, kodachi's just add more weight and do less damage, the only thing they're good for is ground combos, making noobs afraid, and uppercut movement (since you jump in the air you can move forward while you uppercut)

however, if you plan on b-flying (which you should) both weapons will go as fast as you can butterfly them. Swords weigh less and do more damage in a hit. You get no bonus hit from kodachis in butterfly thus making it no contest compared to a sword.

that was my worry about the kodachi. it's only good on the ground, but you won't land more than 2 hits on a kstyler (whether it be 1 on 1 dueling or in a big crowd) while on the ground cause they'll be in the air most of the time. you'll get hit by them too...
not to mention the extra weight means no rings/grenades or things like that.

Iris
05-29-2006, 07:12 PM
BTW, Kodachis dont bf faster. The sword cancel + block destroys delay, so sword technically does more damage with less weight. But kodachia are cooler. And the animation helps me BF, so I like Kodachuis.

illgamez
05-29-2006, 08:28 PM
You can counter getting uppercutted. You just press speace afew times and you'll do a semi-flip and you'll land on your two feet instead of your back. That usually annoys the type of people that depend on that. Since they tend to charge you when you're in the air to try and fill with you with lead.
Yea u cant "flip"(right click) someone which can be a useful move

Iris
05-29-2006, 08:57 PM
Uhhh, I dont understand what you said. >.< [To the guy above me]

HellSlave
05-29-2006, 09:03 PM
Usually when I want to have a real fight I use sword cause its lightier and does more dmg, but in normal games I use kodaichis, they look cool and I think its a bit easier to bf with them.:cool:

Iris
05-29-2006, 09:10 PM
Bfing is a bit easier, due to the animation.

AkuxDragon
05-30-2006, 03:15 AM
animation or not, it's all in the button combination. once you take up the habit of the button order then it's all settled.
(apologies to the unleashed rage to Iris in one of my threads)

killer9677
05-31-2006, 07:14 AM
supa guide 10/10 u are l33t:D :D :D :D :D :D

killer9677
05-31-2006, 07:18 AM
whoops sry for 2x post worng one

AkuxDragon
05-31-2006, 08:02 PM
trying to get free posts eh? =P

Iris
05-31-2006, 08:58 PM
Killler, use edit.

illgamez
05-31-2006, 09:07 PM
trying to get free posts eh? =P
wow you guys actually care about how many post you got?

killer9677
05-31-2006, 09:55 PM
well i am now talkin about the right thing i think the dual swords are l33t they might be weaker but they are so coooooool lookin

AkuxDragon
06-01-2006, 12:17 AM
well i am now talkin about the right thing i think the dual swords are l33t they might be weaker but they are so coooooool lookin

ability>>looks
when you are in a fight you always want to use THE BEST equipment.

WitcHunter
06-01-2006, 01:09 AM
I prefer Kodachis better than swords at level 32. Anything lower isn't worth it. Although the weight is ridicoulsly high and sometimes not worth it, and its harder to bf and ss with it if you don't know what you're doing, it still good.

killer9677
06-01-2006, 06:32 AM
I prefer Kodachis better than swords at level 32. Anything lower isn't worth it. Although the weight is ridicoulsly high and sometimes not worth it, and its harder to bf and ss with it if you don't know what you're doing, it still good.
see he knows that dual swords are l33t:D :D

Iris
06-01-2006, 07:37 PM
Essentially, swords are more 1337.
Same speed.
Less weight.
More damage.
Animation is more used to, in most cases. Yeah.

WitcHunter
06-02-2006, 12:18 AM
see he knows that dual swords are l33t:D :D

Oh I know everything, lol just playing.

Iris don't kodachis do 2x more damage due to the extra swords? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also don't the level 32 golden kodachis do more damage then the level 30 sword (I belive its devil slayer? Wait no that's not it...)

roflapmp
06-02-2006, 10:15 AM
killer

stp sayin dual swords are l33t no1 ther clld kodachi no2 they weigh an absolute ton no3 swords are better for uppercut no4 swords hit higher no5 it is alot harder 2 just hang from a wall with kodci because they are shorter

Iris
06-02-2006, 01:11 PM
Oh I know everything, lol just playing.

Iris don't kodachis do 2x more damage due to the extra swords? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also don't the level 32 golden kodachis do more damage then the level 30 sword (I belive its devil slayer? Wait no that's not it...)

The last hit of the ground 4x combo does 2x damage. [slash slash, poke, double slash.] And about the damage. I did not know that? Also, the weight might actually be too much in difference... Weight is another huge factor. But why am I fighting against kodachis? I like em.

Edit : level 32 - high end kodachis - 16 damage. level 30 sword - hig end sword - 20.

Yoroichi
06-02-2006, 11:40 PM
Kodachi's are funny to use, I know a fun trick with them
But I like swords more because it has cooler animations, less weight, more damage and a better "Right click".

AkuxDragon
06-03-2006, 12:28 AM
here's how it comes down with swords and kodachis.
sword power>kodachi power (for butterflying)
sword speed=kodachi speed (for butteflying)
kodachi power>sword power (on the ground, and only if you can land all the hits)
kodachi look>sword look (yes having 2 swords does look cooler than 1, especially since their designs are cooler)
sword weight>kodachi weight (much lighter so you can have rings, armor, and slightly bigger guns)

i'd still have to say that swords end up being better than kodachis. you can't really land all your hits when you're on the ground, and when you are on the ground you're a sitting duck-can't move for a while since you got delay. since kodachis only hit with 1 sword for butterflying, swords are much better. the delay is only for the sword swing itself, NOT for the block (or so i assume) so then doing the block will cancel out the fact that kodachis have less delay. since kstyling is very popular, you should go with swords if you plan to develop into a pro kstyler. go kodachis if you want to impress noobs =D

Xynh
06-03-2006, 12:36 AM
I tried out Kodachis and its pretty much the same as the majority has been saying. We could put it like this:

K-Styling = Swords
E-Styling = Kodachis

Why? Because E-Stylers don't Butterfly, so a kodachi would be better on ground. (Before you argue to me saying that you Butterfly and you're an E-Styler, you've labeled yourself wrong. You're a Hybrid Styler. kthxbai.) K-Styling should use swords because both weapons Butterfly at the same speed, but the sword is stronger in one slash compared to the kodachi.

Iris
06-03-2006, 05:29 PM
I like kodachis for the animation, even though Im a k-Style / h-Styler.

jetach
06-03-2006, 11:45 PM
swords r definitley better unless ur a fkn hardcore nub and u cant bfly for crap and u have to use kodachis i havnt seen sum1 use kodachis in a long time unless im in free channel every1 using swords in elite and xpert chanel... but wow... kodachis vs swords? no problem.... and the bfly attack doesnt matter bcuz u can only attack once per jump so swords r better --;

Glavus
06-04-2006, 02:09 AM
I like swords better... no reason just do, I kinda got use to them.

Iris
06-04-2006, 01:26 PM
swords r definitley better unless ur a fkn hardcore nub and u cant bfly for crap and u have to use kodachis i havnt seen sum1 use kodachis in a long time unless im in free channel every1 using swords in elite and xpert chanel... but wow... kodachis vs swords? no problem.... and the bfly attack doesnt matter bcuz u can only attack once per jump so swords r better --;

It took me like, 5 minutes to decipher this piece of garbage 1337 wananbe talk. And what you said is what everyone else said.

AkuxDragon
06-04-2006, 01:34 PM
It took me like, 5 minutes to decipher this piece of garbage 1337 wananbe talk. And what you said is what everyone else said.

don't get angry about it yeesh. not like saying that is going to make him use normal english typing >_>

i havnt seen sum1 use kodachis in a long time unless im in free channel every1 using swords in elite and xpert chanel

and that statement couldn't be more wrong. i've seen at least 1 person per round use kodachis. get the facts straight so you don't embarass yourself even more than you have

Salenia
06-05-2006, 05:57 PM
swords r definitley better unless ur a fkn hardcore nub and u cant bfly for crap and u have to use kodachis i havnt seen sum1 use kodachis in a long time unless im in free channel every1 using swords in elite and xpert chanel... but wow... kodachis vs swords? no problem.... and the bfly attack doesnt matter bcuz u can only attack once per jump so swords r better --;

You, my friend, need to get out more. Plenty of people use kodachi's, and you're being quite the ignorant fool if you think butterflying is the only good way to fight with swords. It's true that butterflying is good, but it's not even close to impossible to beat a k-styler with a sword without butterflying. Why do you assume that everyone who uses swords butterflies? Kodachi's are better if you don't do much aerial fighting, and like to stick to the ground. Yes, they weigh a hell of a lot more, but if you're fighting on the ground, they attack faster. Sure, if you're butterflying, you're only going to be able to attack once each time, so the sword obviously benefits in this case, as it has more attack power. It also relieves you from the weight of a kodachi, allowing you to carry more things, such as rings, etc. It all depends on what you do.


As for me, I prefer Kodachi's. I fight mostly on the ground, mostly because I'm not a k-styler, and that I prefer keeping my two feet on the floor. The uppercut ability for the Kodachi is less beneficial than the sword. Sure, it can hit multiple people, but it's delay after using it is huge. You're vulnerable for 1-2 seconds after you use it. Plenty of time for you either get stuck in a combo, or shot in the face.


So, pretty much what I'm trying to say is, it all depends on how you fight, and what your preferences are. *Shrugs* I prefer Kodachi's though, cause they look awesome. xD

Don't forget daggers! A real dagger fighter is scary as hell! =O

-Salenia

AkuxDragon
06-05-2006, 07:36 PM
^Right on, you know your stuff :p

Iris
06-05-2006, 08:29 PM
don't get angry about it yeesh. not like saying that is going to make him use normal english typing >_>



and that statement couldn't be more wrong. i've seen at least 1 person per round use kodachis. get the facts straight so you don't embarass yourself even more than you have

I wish it would ><

illgamez
06-05-2006, 09:59 PM
Wow this thread is hilarious to read