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fukumi
05-30-2006, 09:58 PM
anyone getting this game for PS3?

This game looks very promising, stunning graphics, very nice character designs and music, and beutiful backrounds. Also they changed the Final fantasy battle system completly now, as you can see in the video clip movie... well if u ever saw it. they use no ATB or CT or turn based battles.
i Think its almost like how kingdom hearts plays mostly real time.. but with way more battle features...
im thinking about getting it. i cant wait for it.
shows some girl running doing a sweep kick to 3 enemys at once, then jumping over them and downsplashing then turn hand behind her and doing fire spell. then she flips upside down and shoots them.pretty neat, beutiful graphics too.

Saaaaaad
05-30-2006, 11:04 PM
I doubt its gonna be like kingdom hearts (and i hope its not). If it is in real time, it'll be like FF12, but i dont think it'll be like that either. In the video, you can see the Attack and other commands like you had in previous rpgs. The video just showed the bits where she was actually doing the actions, rather than the bit where you are selecting the actions. If they showed any of the previous final fantasies with only the limit breaks/overdrives, and not the build up, or you selecting the commands it would look that action packed too.

Gravedigger
05-30-2006, 11:37 PM
I might consider buying it, but I have to admit I have never been a Final Fantasy fan, so most likely no, and I don't think it will be as good as the original Final Fantasy games, which I have played. Old School :)

zeroblaze
05-31-2006, 10:43 PM
I might consider buying it, but I have to admit I have never been a Final Fantasy fan, so most likely no, and I don't think it will be as good as the original Final Fantasy games, which I have played. Old School

Yeah they change all the battle system why?? the old atb system is great like in old school, why they change it ,final fantasy need an atb system not a semi-atb system or action system. Why they dont do game like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy 6 or seiken densetsu 3 this three games are far better than final fantasy 8-9-10-11 or other crap rpg of this day!!!

Vive Old school rpg

lothia
06-01-2006, 04:33 AM
They didn't change the battle system for FFXII! You have the option just like in FFX-2 to go back to the old fashion was if you like. How ever FFXII as far as i know will not support that feature as well (such as the whole idea of mobs around the area joining, but this fact may be a myth now)
Any ways I am confused on that title, FFXIII and FFXIII (Same thing) any ways I cannot wait for it, I believe they will stay with the new system. Square-enix some time ago said they have changed to this because it is the way they really wanted to do it but wasn't able to do it with the technology they had back then.

Deaths_Legion
06-01-2006, 05:58 AM
Lothia is right. And another reason is because people don't want the same thing over and over again. They want something new, not the "same old crap", as some would call it. Believe me, I think the ATB system is great, but the thing is, people want change. Also, for example, if you had the technology to hold a thousand songs on a small portable item, would you want to create it instead of CD players? This is the question that Apple had to ask themselves when they created the iPod. So it's all about advancing technology and newer breakthroughs. They can only recreate the ATB system so many times until it gets boring and no one wants it anymore. Now, Square is taking a different approach and targeting the newer generation with technology instead of appealing to the gamer of yesteryear and keeping the same thing since FF1.

lothia
06-01-2006, 06:33 AM
Yep and if no one noticed about 3 years ago SE said they would be doing some different things over the years. First was FFX-2 (I thought was great) then they have the Crystal Chronicles for Game Cube (I was never able to play) then they had FFXI which was online. They also had I believe one other game but I cannot remember. Now FFXII is part of it but not as much as the other ones. Any one know the exact date of release (I bet almost anything it is when I am going to Japan)

Leadcrows
06-01-2006, 05:03 PM
I want to play FFXIII badly, but PS3 is too expensive.

Rage On Dreams
06-07-2006, 01:28 AM
consider if u want to play FFXIII...u're spending 700$ one shot...

Chrono
06-08-2006, 01:10 AM
consider if u want to play FFXIII...u're spending 700$ one shot...

500USD, if you want the 600USD, thats for personal preference, the parts can be upgraded over time, except for the HDMI, with or without HDMI, you can still play games in 1080p. FFXIII alone is reason enough to get a PS3, so plus the other great games coming out, the PS3 is a definite must for me.

chewey
06-08-2006, 04:43 AM
500USD, if you want the 600USD, thats for personal preference, the parts can be upgraded over time, except for the HDMI, with or without HDMI, you can still play games in 1080p. FFXIII alone is reason enough to get a PS3, so plus the other great games coming out, the PS3 is a definite must for me.
Personally, I don't find a game that resembles FFX a good enough reason to buy a PS3.

Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 05:02 AM
...Who said it resembled FFX? The only thing that it comes close to resembling FFX in is graphics and FFVIII had the those kinds of graphics before FFX. I don't see why you're complaining about the game when it hasn't even been released yet. You also obviously hate FFVII, seeing as how you wouldn't shutup about it sucking in the other thread. I do recall you saying you liked some of the older FF games, though. Are you some kind of retro gamer that thinks all the games of this day and age are stupid and that all the old games rule? I admit that some of the older games were pretty kick a**, but seriously, newer technology leads to better things. Using my example from earlier, the iPod revolutionizes music and the only reason we have it is because of the newer technology they had at the time.

chewey
06-08-2006, 05:33 AM
...Who said it resembled FFX?
Me, because it does. Similar scenery and similar music. It is being directed by the same person who made FFX, jftr.
The only thing that it comes close to resembling FFX in is graphics and FFVIII had the those kinds of graphics before FFX.
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I don't see why you're complaining about the game when it hasn't even been released yet.
I am not complaining about the game, I stated that it is not reason enough to buy a several hundred dollar PS3. Sort it out.
Using my example from earlier, the iPod revolutionizes music and the only reason we have it is because of the newer technology they had at the time.
iPod did not revolutionize music, it is just an improved, portable music holder.
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Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 07:29 AM
Me, because it does. Similar scenery and similar music. It is being directed by the same person who made FFX, jftr.

So then doesn't that mean that all FF games resemble FFI? Just because a game has the same music and scenery doesn't mean it's exactly like another game. Not playing a game just because it has a certain creator is stupid. And also, not everything you say is true.
I am not complaining about the game, I stated that it is not reason enough to buy a several hundred dollar PS3. Sort it out.
What is the definition of complaining?
Complain
1. To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment.
2.To make a formal accusation or bring a formal charge.
You were expressing your feelings of dissatisfaction...which means you were complaining.
iPod did not revolutionize music, it is just an improved, portable music holder.
Okay, but how many people do you know with an iPod? It was a major success, and that was my point. Technology made music a little better because now it's improved.

chewey
06-08-2006, 08:56 AM
So then doesn't that mean that all FF games resemble FFI? Just because a game has the same music and scenery doesn't mean it's exactly like another game.
FFXIII has similar scenery and music to FFI? Wow.

What I am talking about is that it is pretty much just FFX with a different storyline and characters. The compositions sound similar to that of FFX's and the scenery (graphics, in a way) is also very similar [what I am mostly referring to is when the main character is walking up a path in a forest (which is pretty much all that was shown in the trailer) which resembles Macalania Woods. Also, the soldiers shown in the fighting scene resemble those Yevon warriors guys from FFX]. You misunderstood my meaning, by the looks of it.


Not playing a game just because it has a certain creator is stupid. And also, not everything you say is true.
I never said I wasn't going to play the game.
I never stated that everything I say is true.


Okay, but how many people do you know with an iPod? It was a major success, and that was my point.
Well you should have made that point then.

What is the definition of complaining?
Complain
1. To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment.
2.To make a formal accusation or bring a formal charge.
You were expressing your feelings of dissatisfaction...which means you were complaining.
Too bad I wasn't aiming that dissatisfaction towards FFXIII, eh?

Summary:
This is what I said
Personally, I don't find a game that resembles FFX a good enough reason to buy a PS3.
Not this
FFXIII is bad

Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 09:11 AM
What I am talking about is that it is pretty much just FFX with a different storyline and characters. The compositions sound similar to that of FFX's and the scenery (graphics, in a way) is also very similar [what I am mostly referring to is when the main character is walking up a path in a forest (which is pretty much all that was shown in the trailer) which resembles Macalania Woods. Also, the soldiers shown in the fighting scene resemble those Yevon warriors guys from FFX]. You misunderstood my meaning, by the looks of it.
Well then, you should have made your point clear.

FFXIII has similar scenery and music to FFI? Wow.

Looks like you misunderstood my meaning there. You said:
Me, because it does. Similar scenery and similar music. It is being directed by the same person who made FFX, jftr.
And since FFI was directed by the same people as FFX, that means that, in your words, yes they are related.

Now can we please get back to the topic at hand and stop bickering about the most trivial things...even though I technically started it.

chewey
06-08-2006, 09:39 AM
And since FFI was directed by the same people as FFX, that means that, in your words, yes they are related.
FFI was not directed by the same person as FFXIII.

Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 09:54 AM
No, it wasn't. But you know what I meant.

chewey
06-08-2006, 10:05 AM
No, it wasn't. But you know what I meant.
What you meant does not relate to my point.

FFX and FFXIII are being directed by the same man, Motomu Toriyama.


I am not referring to Square, they are the developers (that is the point you are trying to make, as far as I can tell.)

Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 12:24 PM
Bingo! You hit the spot. I misinterpreted the meaning of Director.

P.S. I doubt Motomu Toriyama is the only director. :p

chewey
06-08-2006, 12:39 PM
Bingo! You hit the spot. I misinterpreted the meaning of Director.

P.S. I doubt Motomu Toriyama is the only director. :p
He is.

Also, Toriyama was the Director for FFVII.

Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 12:56 PM
Yes, but he was probably working with other directors. I highly doubt they would leave one person in charge of the whole thing. There had to have been directors for seperate sections, like art and animation. Or were you talking about the higher director that watches over the other directors? Any way you look at it though, he was working with other directors. Point proven.

chewey
06-08-2006, 09:46 PM
Yes, but he was probably working with other directors. I highly doubt they would leave one person in charge of the whole thing. There had to have been directors for seperate sections, like art and animation. Or were you talking about the higher director that watches over the other directors? Any way you look at it though, he was working with other directors. Point proven.
People in charge of art are in charge of Art Design.

Motomu Toriyama is in charge of most of what happens in the project at the moment.

Deaths_Legion
06-08-2006, 10:44 PM
Which is what I asked, but you also have have different directors that look over their section of the game. But Toriyama is in charge of directing the different sectors, so in other words he's like the boss of the directors.

chewey
06-10-2006, 02:59 AM
Which is what I asked, but you also have have different directors that look over their section of the game. But Toriyama is in charge of directing the different sectors, so in other words he's like the boss of the directors.
He is ultimately in charge of what happens in the game. Just so happens what he wants to do with the game is pretty similar to FFX.

Deaths_Legion
06-10-2006, 03:23 AM
Well then, screw him. "Coming up with new ideas" my a**! :p lol Anyways, there are going to be a lot of different things in the game...I hope. I also hope that Square actually tries to put some effort into this game. I noticed that lately they've been getting lazier. :D

BooNeZ
06-10-2006, 04:19 AM
Of course I will buy this game...but...there's one thing. PS3 is soo expensive. maybe I'll buy it after a year or two.

chewey
06-10-2006, 09:54 AM
Well then, screw him. "Coming up with new ideas" my a**! :p lol Anyways, there are going to be a lot of different things in the game...I hope. I also hope that Square actually tries to put some effort into this game. I noticed that lately they've been getting lazier. :D
A lot of effort has been put into FFXII. You can tell by the constant release delays.

Deaths_Legion
06-10-2006, 09:11 PM
A lot of effort has been put into FFXII. You can tell by the constant release delays.

That happened with Halo 2 as well and all they were doing it for was to build suspense...and it worked >.> Anyways, I was just joking about what I said and when I said they were getting lazier, I meant the quality of their games was getting a little worse. Take Crystal Chronicles for instance.

Raiyne
06-14-2006, 12:18 PM
Oh come on, you mean you like the monotonous turn based battle system better than this real time combat?

Deaths_Legion
06-14-2006, 02:42 PM
O.o When did I ever say that? I like the turn based system, but I'm looking forward to the Real time system more. It's going to be TEH ROXXORS!!! lol :D

Tyson03
06-16-2006, 01:03 AM
Meh. I'll buy it when the PS4 is going to be released.

chewey
06-16-2006, 09:17 AM
Meh. I'll buy it when the PS4 is going to be released.
Sony will stop making consoles after the PS3 coz going to be a mega flop.

Deaths_Legion
06-16-2006, 09:21 AM
Don't make assumptions chewey. The Xbox 360 has already made a big flop (no offense to anyone) but it is coming back. Nintendo made a big flop with the Gamecube, but they're still kicking. And the PS3 is going to be a big hit because of all the FPS and RPG games that will be released. So, again, don't make assumptions.

chewey
06-16-2006, 09:29 AM
Don't make assumptions chewey. The Xbox 360 has already made a big flop (no offense to anyone) but it is coming back. Nintendo made a big flop with the Gamecube, but they're still kicking. And the PS3 is going to be a big hit because of all the FPS and RPG games that will be released. So, again, don't make assumptions.
No assumptions.

The fact that PS3 games will not be able to be resold after being bought will bring it down. Also the fact that most people who enjoy FPS games rather playing them on Computers. It being just a PS2 with improved hardware will also play a role in it flopping. So will it being the last console to be released out of the three consoles of next gen (this gen, kinda). The lack of good release titles (MGS4, woopdy-doo) will also make it sell less. The price tag? Yuck.

sundaystory2
06-16-2006, 09:55 AM
that's would be great!:) (www.virgoods.com/pl)

CrossTrigger
06-16-2006, 11:55 AM
No assumptions.

The fact that PS3 games will not be able to be resold after being bought will bring it down. Also the fact that most people who enjoy FPS games rather playing them on Computers. It being just a PS2 with improved hardware will also play a role in it flopping. So will it being the last console to be released out of the three consoles of next gen (this gen, kinda). The lack of good release titles (MGS4, woopdy-doo) will also make it sell less. The price tag? Yuck.

Ugh, I hate playing FPS on the PC. Controller>>>>>>>Mouse. Fact.Plus, I've heard that the PS3 would be the only one with Blu-Ray technology. And the Blu-Ray is gonna be even more expensive than the PS3. Which would you rather take? A Blu-Ray that you can play very good games on, or a plain, old Blu-Ray?

Deaths_Legion
06-16-2006, 01:12 PM
Blu-Ray is either going to be off the hook, or suck really bad. No offense. But chewey, what do you think the Xbox 360 was? It's an Xbox with a couple added features. So you can't say that about the PS3. There are going to be many great titles on PS3 as well. Ones you may not like, but the whole world doesn't follow your very whim. Other people like things that maybe you don't. I'm getting it cuz it practically wins the award for most RPGs when it hasn't even been released yet. Yes there are going to be RPGs on the Xbox 360, but Microsoft seems to lean a little more to the action/adventure genre. Sony has the RPG and FPS genres and Nintendo has all the Disney titles :P jk. Nintendo practically just aims towards anything. They have a wide variety of games on most of their systems. I don't think you should be complaining about the price though. Seen the Xbox 360's price yet? The PS3's price seems cheap compared to that. I don't see why you're so upset about the PS3, I think it's going to be a great system. Don't pull any "You're just against Microsoft" crap either. I'm gonna own all three systems.

Edit: All Blu-Ray can really do is read a higher quality disc that can hold more data. Blu-Ray makes it possible to just make games longer or cram more crap into a game. I admit this will allow for better graphics, stories, etc. But really, do you think that every CD is going to be filled. The Blu-Ray is 10X stronger than a regular CD reader, that's it.

chewey
06-16-2006, 01:12 PM
Ugh, I hate playing FPS on the PC. Controller>>>>>>>Mouse. Fact.Plus, I've heard that the PS3 would be the only one with Blu-Ray technology. And the Blu-Ray is gonna be even more expensive than the PS3. Which would you rather take? A Blu-Ray that you can play very good games on, or a plain, old Blu-Ray?
What very good games?

Deaths_Legion
06-16-2006, 01:18 PM
Again, you might not like the games, but others might.

chewey
06-16-2006, 01:25 PM
Again, you might not like the games, but others might.
People liking them does not make them good. All it requires is a lack of wanting something new.

Deaths_Legion
06-16-2006, 01:29 PM
In that persons opinion the game is good. Not in yours, but in other peoples opinions they think the game is pretty good. And this line:

All it requires is a lack of wanting something new.

Makes no sense at all. Please explain.

chewey
06-16-2006, 01:38 PM
In that persons opinion the game is good. Not in yours, but in other peoples opinions they think the game is pretty good. And this line:



Makes no sense at all. Please explain.
I am not talking about opinion. I am talking about quality.


It means that all the release titles for the PS3 (as far as I know) are pretty much what you'd get on a PS2 with improved graphics.

Deaths_Legion
06-16-2006, 01:52 PM
...same with Xbox 360. And a game can be good whether it has good quality or not. Look at the old SNES games, they had pretty bad graphics and yet I still think they're good. Graphics is one of the main things people look for in quality. Along with the Storyline, Creativity, and many other things. The quality of the game does not determine if it is good or not. Good to a person just means if they like the game. Just because a game has a bad storyline or horrible graphics doesn't mean it's not good to someone. So the quality of a game is not it's determining factor in the likeness of the game. Look at Viewtiful Joe. I personally thought the game was horrible. Bad graphics, not an immersive storyline, and a lot more wrong with that game, but a lot of people out there liked the game. That's their opinion and I respect that, but my opinion is that it completely sucked. Also what may be bad graphics to you or a crappy storyline to you, could be good to someone else. It depends on who you're talking to or who is disagreeing with you. Your view on quality certainly isn't a justified one.

chewey
06-17-2006, 12:22 AM
The quality I am talking about is making new games, instead of sequels that will hold many similarities to that of the PS2 games, jftr.

...same with Xbox 360.
The xbox 360 is not selling all that well.

And a game can be good whether it has good quality or not. Look at the old SNES games, they had pretty bad graphics and yet I still think they're good. Graphics is one of the main things people look for in quality.
Pretty sure I've explained before that graphics do not equal quality.

Along with the Storyline, Creativity, and many other things. These are required for quality games.

The quality of the game does not determine if it is good or not. Good to a person just means if they like the game.
I am talking about the quality of the game, not the enjoyability it has to a small majority of the people it was aimed towards.

Just because a game has a bad storyline or horrible graphics doesn't mean it's not good to someone.
I am not disagreeing with this. Still, I am talking about quality.

So the quality of a game is not it's determining factor in the likeness of the game.
Sure, but this still isn't what I'm talking about.

Look at Viewtiful Joe. I personally thought the game was horrible. Bad graphics, not an immersive storyline, and a lot more wrong with that game, but a lot of people out there liked the game. That's their opinion and I respect that, but my opinion is that it completely sucked.
I do not like Final Fantasy because I feel it lacks in the RPG department (it is hardly an rpg at all, imo), but it still has quality in other departments (storyline, gameplay). My opinion does not mean it sucks, because for the most part final fantasy doesn't suck.

My point is, opinion =/= quality.