ive always wondered what happenens to animals when they die? do they either go to heaven or hell like humans or do they just rot in the ground?

i dont know.but i voted yes lolz.i think they do.

Yeah, I think animals go to heaven too, I remember a show whereas the rabbits died and went to heaven and stuff, insects too.. <_<

No because there´s no heaven =P

What, are you stupid? What, are you dense? All dogs go to heaven fool!

Did ya get that? =] Didn't think so.

Lol... honestly i don't think so, but hey, it'd be nice to see my pet dog in heaven i guess... not my hamsters though, they'd probably eat me alive up there. :D

lol the vote is 50, 50 i dun thnk they do, i know i wouldnt want them there exept wolves and dogs yea 4get the rest =) and icy did u just say what i think u said??????????????????????? u friggin emo some1 needs to goahead and kill him b4 he kills his self!

What, are you stupid? What, are you dense? All dogs go to heaven fool!

Did ya get that? =] Didn't think so.

Lol... honestly i don't think so, but hey, it'd be nice to see my pet dog in heaven i guess... not my hamsters though, they'd probably eat me alive up there. :D


I´m imagining a 50 feet tall hamster looking me from outside the cage.

I think this has got to be the most stupid thread i've seen on here. 0.o

err....the bible does not say anything abou6t ANILMALS going to heaven, so i think they do just rot. somebody prove me wrong.

lol,i actually also put 50/50.even though i voted yes lolz.

I think this has got to be the most stupid thread i've seen on here. 0.o

how is it stupid??? tell me.

why would god be so prejudiced and biased for humans? it just doesent sound right. maybe the nice guys like rabbits go to heaven while the sharks and tigers go to hell. oh and fire ants. i hope they burn in hell!!!!!!!!!! i hate them.

ther no such thng as heven or hall

y u tink dey go der den? >:(>:(>:(>:(>:(

ther no such thng as heven or hall

y u tink dey go der den? >:(>:(>:(>:(>:(

well i dont think heven exists,i dont even know what it is, but i know hall does, i walk through one at my school every day to get from class to class.

ther no such thng as heven or hall

y u tink dey go der den? >:(>:(>:(>:(>:(

lol bcuz liek sum uv us tink dat liek gawd exist u no?!?!?!?:) :) :) :) :) :)

y u hat so much n us dood!!!!!!!!:( :( :(

this isnt a thread on the existance of heaven, i already know that heaven exists.

No. Animal's do not go to heaven. They are a test of your skills as a human being, and when they die, make sure you know it's your fault.

So if your pet dies, make sure to feel really bad, and then know you've failed at life.

I actually wondered about this too. I asked my pastor, and he said no, they do not go up to heaven. Anmials aren't like humans; remember that.

This topic is really interesting in my opinon. I'm curious to see what people say about this.

-feelyc0406

Animals go to the Animal Kingdom, dumb ass ;P.

Animals go to the Animal Kingdom, dumb ass ;P.

Lmao....Animal Kingdom.

-feelyc0406

you need a soul to go to heaven

this isnt a thread on the existance of heaven, i already know that heaven exists.

Mind telling me how you found this out?

wow i jus tthought aobut it. if all living things went to heaven after dying, then it will be very crowded, with quadrillions of trillions of amebas, ants, germs, bacteria, and like every type of cell. i hope theres a /w command in heaven.

how lucky we are for god to have chosen us to be humans, and not dogs, cats, ants, germs, white blood cells, bacteria, elephants, or insects.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Agpqo4yEN.yxIUlnkMfmeBVIzKIX?qid=200606 28150013AAnR0aU


here its from yahoo answers

When they figure out how to splice humans with animals, then we'll know.

Unfortunately we don't even know if we even go to heaven or hell.

This thread is totally null.

im not going to awnser this question mate.

Animals dont have no spirit, so they cant go to heaven. But God can do anything he wishes, he could sent thier physical form in heaven.

This topic assumes everyone is Christian.

-You do NOT know if there is heaven or hell.
-You can NOT prove that things such as 'souls' exist.

There is no discussion here, there is just speculation.

Nonononono when you die you just rot in the ground and get eaten by maggots and worms and stuff..

This topic assumes everyone is Christian.

-You do NOT know if there is heaven or hell.
-You can NOT prove that things such as 'souls' exist.

There is no discussion here, there is just speculation.
For once I agree with Gigabit.

Now let me commit harakiri while I divide myself by zero into time paradox.

wow i jus tthought aobut it. if all living things went to heaven after dying, then it will be very crowded, with quadrillions of trillions of amebas, ants, germs, bacteria, and like every type of cell. i hope theres a /w command in heaven.

how lucky we are for god to have chosen us to be humans, and not dogs, cats, ants, germs, white blood cells, bacteria, elephants, or insects.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Agpqo4yEN.yxIUlnkMfmeBVIzKIX?qid=200606 28150013AAnR0aU


here its from yahoo answers

If God did exist he could make heaven as big as he wants it.

I was going to refer you to a movie called "All Dogs Go To Heaven", but it seems Rayne has already done so.

Also, **** that. I wouldn't want to see the 4 dogs that were killed in my backyard in heaven. (assuming i do goto heaven, which i doubt ^,^)

I was going to refer you to a movie called "All Dogs Go To Heaven", but it seems Rayne has already done so.

Also, **** that. I wouldn't want to see the 4 dogs that were killed in my backyard in heaven. (assuming i do goto heaven, which i doubt ^,^)
I'm sure Chuck Norris will kick God's ass if God doesn't let you in. :P

Chuck Norris can't die silly. -_-

Chuck Norris can't die silly. -_-
I'm saying he'll kick God's ass for you, since he's almighty. D:

whats so hard to believe about god? god HAS to exist, how else was the universe made? the universe cant just come out of nowhere, same with life, life cant just pop out of nowhere, god had to make it.

whats so hard to believe about god? god HAS to exist, how else was the universe made?

Science or God, your pick.

i pick god.

to you "science" guys:

if you dont believe in god and believe in evolution, where did the first lifeforms come from? spontaneous generation is the only thing, and thats scientifically impossible. but not theologically impossible, because god can do anything he wishes. therefore, god has to exist, simple as that.

i pick god.

to you "science" guys:

if you dont believe in god and believe in evolution, where did the first lifeforms come from? spontaneous generation is the only thing, and thats scientifically impossible. but not theologically impossible, because god can do anything he wishes. therefore, god has to exist, simple as that.
Stop forcing your religion on this forum.

1. It's not changing atheists minds.
2. You arn't proving anything, since life could be made by fusing carbon molecules together, slowly creating life.
3. There is no way to prove God exists. Not even miracles can prove he exists, because he can not be seen, and no one has seen him except maby Jesus, who is long dead.
4. If God can do anything he wanted, he'd change the world so every man believes in him, which has no real point. He could easily fix all our lifes and make the world a happy place, but with your sense of his power, he chooses not to.

There is nothing simple about it, and there is no simple answer.

Holy cow 16 people voted NO?! Thats wrong.

Stop forcing your religion on this forum.

1. It's not changing atheists minds.
2. You arn't proving anything, since life could be made by fusing carbon molecules together, slowly creating life.
3. There is no way to prove God exists. Not even miracles can prove he exists, because he can not be seen, and no one has seen him except maby Jesus, who is long dead.
4. If God can do anything he wanted, he'd change the world so every man believes in him, which has no real point. He could easily fix all our lifes and make the world a happy place, but with your sense of his power, he chooses not to.

There is nothing simple about it, and there is no simple answer.

1. ur just changing the subject cause you cant make a proper rebuttal to my previous post.
2. sorry, thats impossible.
3. i just did in a previous post. jesus rose from the dead by the way
4. god game us the ability to reason and choose, he didnt just make us mindless zombies.

im not forcing my religion, im speaking my mind

1. ur just changing the subject cause you cant make a proper rebuttal to my previous post.
2.sorry, thats impossible.
3. i just did in a previous post. jesus rose from the dead by the way
4. god game us the ability to reason and choose, he didnt just make us mindless zombies.

im not forcing my religion, im speaking my mind


You haven't had Biology yet?

You still can't prove that god exists, or ever existed.

Religions (most of them) are created to give meaning to life, to make people think that they will be rewarded in the 'afterlife' for being good during their present life.

They are just false hope - and there is no proof to anything you are saying. A book doesn't prove shit. Your beliefs don't prove shit. Come up with a logical argument that god exists, and I'll believe you.

4. If God can do anything he wanted, he'd change the world so every man believes in him, which has no real point. He could easily fix all our lifes and make the world a happy place, but with your sense of his power, he chooses not to.

Osup, we believe that God gave us free will, which encompasses the choice to come to Him or not. On a related note, it is that very same free will that has made the world what it is today. It is our sin that has brought disease, starvation, and death into everyone's lives, not God.

Zaku, your argument for the existance of God is faulty. You're assuming that there can be only two explinations for the orgins of life (spontanious generation or God), and since you say spontanious generation can't happen, then it must have been God. But who's to say there aren't other explinations? Plus, if everything had to have been created by something, who created God?

There's no way to definitively prove using the standards of science whether or not God (and thus Heaven and Hell) exist. That's pretty simple. So arguing about it is pointless. For this thread to go anywhere, just assume that there is a heaven that animals could go to, and work from there. I'd say the can't go, cause I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the Bible about animals having souls, and you need a soul to go to heaven or hell.

You haven't had Biology yet?

You still can't prove that god exists, or ever existed.

Religions (most of them) are created to give meaning to life, to make people think that they will be rewarded in the 'afterlife' for being good during their present life.

They are just false hope - and there is no proof to anything you are saying. A book doesn't prove shit. Your beliefs don't prove shit. Come up with a logical argument that god exists, and I'll believe you.
You haven't had Biology yet?
yes, i took bio, can you show me proof of spontaneous generation?

You still can't prove that god exists, or ever existed.
please, tell me, what started the big bang, and water just started coming out of nowhere, and monkeys just popped out of nowhere and later started standing up.

if you can describe all that without the help of god, ill convert to atheism.

They are just false hope - and there is no proof to anything you are saying. A book doesn't prove shit. Your beliefs don't prove shit. Come up with a logical argument that god exists, and I'll believe you.

Go slit your wrists.

Osup, we believe that God gave us free will, which encompasses the choice to come to Him or not. On a related note, it is that very same free will that has made the world what it is today. It is our sin that has brought disease, starvation, and death into everyone's lives, not God.

glad to see SOMEONE has common sense around here...

Plus, if everything had to have been created by something, who created God?

Zaku's point was that everything in nature needs a beginning, but as God is supernatural, He does not.

proof god exists:
middle east was garden of eden
middle east has lots of oil

see the connection??

more proof:
mary gave birth to jesus AS A VIRGIN
dont believe that? well its history, history isnt religion, history is history.

proof god exists:
middle east was garden of eden
middle east has lots of oil

see the connection??

more proof:
mary gave birth to jesus AS A VIRGIN
dont believe that? well its history, history isnt religion, history is history.

Middle east has lots of oil? So does the gulf of Mexico, and Canada, and even some parts of the U.S. Does that make all of them garden(s) of eden?

And the mary thing - prove it. Oh wait, you can't.

You haven't had Biology yet?
4.yes, i took bio, can you show me proof of spontaneous generation?

You still can't prove that god exists, or ever existed.
3.please, tell me, what started the big bang, and water just started coming out of nowhere, and monkeys just popped out of nowhere and later started standing up.

2.if you can describe all that without the help of god, ill convert to atheism.

They are just false hope - and there is no proof to anything you are saying. A book doesn't prove shit. Your beliefs don't prove shit. Come up with a logical argument that god exists, and I'll believe you.

1.Go slit your wrists.



5.glad to see SOMEONE has common sense around here...

1. First of all, don't flame. I may have some grudges against gigabit, but I detest
2. we're not trying to convert you to anything. I'm trying to stay stop acting like your beliefs are 100% and that everyone should follow you because you know the exact answers.
3. Mostly molecules coming together and forming matter, and evolution, which was not stated in the bible. As for the beginning of the universe, they haven't found out anything. But that doesn't make you or me right.
4. As I said, when carbon molecules combined and started creating simple life, as in probally small, amoebic creatures, that was how life started. Then it evolved from there. There are no dinosaurs in the bible, yet we have full skeletons of them. Made out of carbon. Which is what life derived from. That is why I choose science over religion. Religion is too faulty, and not up to date with our world.
5. He said we as in those who believe in God. If I don't believe in him, then free will came from myself.

Stop acting like a Prophet. This is a MMO gaming forum, not Catholic School.

Middle east has lots of oil? So does the gulf of Mexico, and Canada, and even some parts of the U.S. Does that make all of them garden(s) of eden?

And the mary thing - prove it. Oh wait, you can't.

they said on the history channel that she was in fact a virgin. history channel is a more credible source than some random kid on the internet named "gigabit"

there were dinosaurs in the bible, in the bible they said "all animals" dinosaurs are animals

middle east was garden of eden

Actually, that's a common misconception. Yes, Genesis 2:13-14 says that the Tigris and Euphrates rivers ran through Eden, but you must remember that not long after was the flood. It would've changed the geographical face of earth dramatically, meaning that the original riverbeds could've been destroyed, and that Eden could be anywhere, even South America.


4. As I said, when carbon molecules combined and started creating simple life, as in probally small, amoebic creatures, that was how life started. Then it evolved from there. There are no dinosaurs in the bible, yet we have full skeletons of them. Made out of carbon. Which is what life derived from. That is why I choose science over religion. Religion is too faulty, and not up to date with our world.


Wrong again. I can provide several scriptures that make reference to one particularly large dinosaur, the Leviathan. Also, you have no skeletons of dinosaurs, what we have are essentially molds of them. The actual skeletons have long since been destroyed by time and weather, minerals just so happen to have filled the molds, leaving you with a fossil.

they said on the history channel that she was in fact a virgin. history channel is a more credible source than some random kid on the internet named "gigabit"

there were dinosaurs in the bible, in the bible they said "all animals" dinosaurs are animals
..... do you have freaking DNA sample yourself? Did they find her dead body, test her for semenal sample, and found out that God boned her? No, they have no proof of nothing. They can't prove that she even gave birth to Jesus even if they had her corpse or bones because then they'd need Jesus's DNA too.


We don't need to talk your information either, person from the internet, so stop acting like you know what's right. And I'm sure there were dinosaurs in "the garden of eden...."

I'm sure they stated that the Leviathan was a dinosaur in the bible, and sorry I meant fossils of dinosaurs, but that's good enough proof for me anyway.

The fact is that neither of us are proovable. He just needs to know that his fundamentalness for his religion is not accepted into this forums since all of us do not agree on the same idea. In fact, there are people here that have faith in other religions.

He is insulting atheists and other religions by him saying he knows the cold hard facts that God exists, yet he has nothing to truely back himself up with on his comments. Not even the pope himself can prove to you that God exists. It's a choice. So stop acting like you're right. No one's right.

Plus this isn't a religion forum, let me redirect you to http://www.inthepursuitofgod.com/forum/ if you want some people that will agree with you.

Animals do not have souls therefore they do not go to heaven they are our food

http://robert.ettinger.com/uploaded_images/The_More_You_Know-775718.jpg
enjoy your aids
Yay, a joke to comically release my stress off other peoples stupidity. Let me laugh then ask...

Isn't that from Reading Rainbow?

ooh the yes's are slowly catching up to the no's.

Let's be on topic people...it's about whether animals go to Heaven or Hell, not if God exists or not.

-feelyc0406

http://www.themoreyouknow.com/
whoa did u get a warning for that?

well animals have no ability to reason, meaning that they have no faith, meaning they can do whatever they want and god wont be angry with them, but it wouldnt be fair to the christians, who believed in jesus and did good deeds, so i guess there would have to be some sort of animal kingdom for animals to frolic around in. i still would rather be a human.

but then how did u get a warning? the first post u made with the warning on it was the one where u gave the link

If they do. It'd be filled up with bugs and shit, and that they would be in a separate Heaven.

No. Not as in they dont deserve heaven. Most humans are the people least deserving of an afterlife. The species that all the others would want extinct would be us. We've done very bad things to this planet. The afterlife doesnt exist to me though.

Ridley, you've got me wondering. How exactly is science not "faulty." You've heard what I have to say about the scientific origin of the universe, but what about evolution?

Darwin's theory was that over long periods of time, small adaptations and mutations, along with natural selection, would result in new species. Darwin also said the following in the Origin of Species.

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

So, explain to me why I have arms and other body parts composed of several interdependent organ systems if my ancient predecessor didn't even have a flagellum. Let's look at adaptations and mutations, too. I'm assuming you've taken biology, and thus know what a Punnett square is. This is a classic example of how a gene can be preserved for generations without making an appearance in it's host. Let's say a black man and a white woman get married, and have a child whose skin tone looks like a mixture. To keep this going, let's also say that child and his extended offspring only marry black people. Somewhere down the line, so long as the gene for light skin still exists, two people who appear to be black could have a completely white child. So, why is it that humans are never born with fully functional tails if we share a common ancestor with chimpanzees? Now, ask yourself, would you have children with someone who had a third arm, or fins instead of hands? What makes you think an animal would, then? Sure, my example is a bit radical, but you get my point.

Time for the fossil record. I've heard people use this bit of information as if it was the one piece of information that would destroy intelligent design. Again, I will quote Darwin.

"The geological record is imperfect and this fact will to a large extent explain why we do not find intermediate varieties, connecting together all the extinct and existing forms of life by the finest graduated steps. He who rejects these views on the nature of the geological record, will rightly reject my whole theory."

Granted, his statement that the fossil record was imperfect was made over 100 years ago, yet we have come no closer to completing it in that time. There is an extreme lack of fossils of the transitional phases between every species there is, and ever was. Furthermore, many complex life forms appear in the fossil record without any evidence of ancestors from which they could have evolved.

Again, it could just be me, but it seems like there needs to be something like God in there at some point.

Ridley, you've got me wondering. How exactly is science not "faulty." You've heard what I have to say about the scientific origin of the universe, but what about evolution?

Darwin's theory was that over long periods of time, small adaptations and mutations, along with natural selection, would result in new species. Darwin also said the following in the Origin of Species.

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

So, explain to me why I have arms and other body parts composed of several interdependent organ systems if my ancient predecessor didn't even have a flagellum. Let's look at adaptations and mutations, too. I'm assuming you've taken biology, and thus know what a Punnett square is. This is a classic example of how a gene can be preserved for generations without making an appearance in it's host. Let's say a black man and a white woman get married, and have a child whose skin tone looks like a mixture. To keep this going, let's also say that child and his extended offspring only marry black people. Somewhere down the line, so long as the gene for light skin still exists, two people who appear to be black could have a completely white child. So, why is it that humans are never born with fully functional tails if we share a common ancestor with chimpanzees? Now, ask yourself, would you have children with someone who had a third arm, or fins instead of hands? What makes you think an animal would, then? Sure, my example is a bit radical, but you get my point.

Time for the fossil record. I've heard people use this bit of information as if it was the one piece of information that would destroy intelligent design. Again, I will quote Darwin.

"The geological record is imperfect and this fact will to a large extent explain why we do not find intermediate varieties, connecting together all the extinct and existing forms of life by the finest graduated steps. He who rejects these views on the nature of the geological record, will rightly reject my whole theory."

Granted, his statement that the fossil record was imperfect was made over 100 years ago, yet we have come no closer to completing it in that time. There is an extreme lack of fossils of the transitional phases between every species there is, and ever was. Furthermore, many complex life forms appear in the fossil record without any evidence of ancestors from which they could have evolved.

Again, it could just be me, but it seems like there needs to be something like God in there at some point.
Science is pratically the same thing as religion, it's something used to describe how life works. Except I can actually witness science, while faith comes from within you. I don't feel like reading anything but your first sentence, because I'm tired of argueing, and I know that it is a fact of right now that science and faith are at a stalemate. I have the right to choose science, I'm not forcing it on nobody. I may choose some examples to support my opinion, but I am not acting like Science is 100% straight forward like Zaku said God must exist due to this and that.

I believe in the Cat Box theory and superposition, as I said before. If not observed, everything has a even chance of happening until it actually happens. God has not been observed, so he has a 1/2 chance of existing or not existing. The way the universe began has never been observed, so anything goes. If I got enough people to believe it, a Giant fish could've created our universe. What if we all hallucinated and actually thought that a giant fish was our ruler, is he fact since we all agree he's there? Who the hell knows. I just want to get on with my life.

It would've changed the geographical face of earth dramatically, meaning that the original riverbeds could've been destroyed, and that Eden could be anywhere, even South America.

Naw we couldn't have had people from South America as ancestors, people don't change their pigmentation from black to white... except Jackson, yeah he's good... XD



I can provide several scriptures that make reference to one particularly large dinosaur, the Leviathan.

Oh wow, thats just my dream come true, a dinosaur named after a sea monster.

they said on the history channel that she was in fact a virgin. history channel is a more credible source than some random kid on the internet named "gigabit"

They found the chalice? =O =O =O

Zaku, don't make this into another religion thread please. You can't prove God exists, end of story. Your conclusions don't really mean a thing on this topic cause well, NO ONE CAN PROVE ANYTHING KTHXBYE!

Naw we couldn't have had people from South America as ancestors, people don't change their pigmentation from black to white... except Jackson, yeah he's good... XD


WOW u think thats messed up. i saw a discovery channel thing called "rise of man" it said humans came to existance in AFRICA, and as they traveled north, they became more and more pale. so according to that, our ancestors are BLACK. cool huh?

than how did we devolop different languages if we were all the same group at one time its not like 1 baby is born and speaks random gibberish and everybody end up speaking it...

If we are also considered to be animals, then yes, animals go to heaven.

than how did we devolop different languages if we were all the same group at one time its not like 1 baby is born and speaks random gibberish and everybody end up speaking it...

According to the Bible, man tried to build a tower to heaven, the Tower of Babel. God then made it so they spoke different languages, and thus could not communicate with each other to finish the tower. From there, new languages were made the same way they are today. Different accents and dialects eventually become so radically different that it becomes impossible for two groups to speak to each other, and a new language is born.

According to the Bible, man tried to build a tower to heaven, the Tower of Babel. God then made it so they spoke different languages, and thus could not communicate with each other to finish the tower. From there, new languages were made the same way they are today. Different accents and dialects eventually become so radically different that it becomes impossible for two groups to speak to each other, and a new language is born.

Correct, I'm blaming God for Chinese... Of course, thats not the only theory to this issue. =]

this so-called "eden" was located somewhere near Iraq, some people believe, as at one point it was a lush oasis, and it was like that when the Hebrews and Jews started this whole bible stuff. also, humans developed language because, if you are a scientifically driven mind like me, they drifted around, across continents before language existed, and thus, they developed different means of communication. also, african people have dark skin because it helps keep them from burning, as according to science, we were apes when we lived in africa. as for animals and heaven, I believe that there is some afterlife, and that heaven would be no paradise without my pets... because my perfect world includes animals.

I voted no, based of my beliefs.

But, just to respect other people's relegions, if humans go to some sort of heaven, why should not animals.

i voted no XD.