View Full Version : assasin or bandit
Chapper
11-23-2006, 03:26 PM
witch should i go or
sin
or
bandit
vote and if u wanna say why or spam post::eye:
TakeshiXkun
11-23-2006, 03:33 PM
i heard and saw alot ppl play bandit lolz.i voted bandit.i dont play bandit/assasin..lolz
zamwini
11-23-2006, 03:37 PM
go bandit... there are less of them around
Refund
11-23-2006, 05:14 PM
Lol, I have a 6x(deleted bad choice..:( ) sin and I personally enjoy playing my CB more, CB's 3rd job is more fun IMO however, Hermits have FJ.. and then again, we got ME and MG :) both classes are good.
Note: Assassin = Heavy funding
Bandit = Flashy moves + Cheap funding
You choose :D
Sakumo
11-23-2006, 05:27 PM
sin!sins have cool skills and can attack farther then bandits!
NINJADUDEv.2
11-23-2006, 07:01 PM
go bandit!! there are wayyy too many sins out there...we need more comrades!!xD
Btw, refund...ur sig is motivating me to power level through lvl 68 and 69...
xD
Sketchyx
11-23-2006, 10:34 PM
sin!sins have cool skills and can attack farther then bandits!
obviously its ranged against melle... jeez anyways i say go bandit cause i have one and i dont find sins that fun since everyone loves fj but trust me aftera while it gets old(ive tried my friends 97 hermit)
olaph
11-23-2006, 10:39 PM
go bandit so i can be ranked higher as a sin
kazoo
11-24-2006, 02:15 AM
Lol, I have a 6x(deleted bad choice..:( ) sin and I personally enjoy playing my CB more, CB's 3rd job is more fun IMO however, Hermits have FJ.. and then again, we got ME and MG :) both classes are good.
Note: Assassin = Heavy funding
Bandit = Flashy moves + Cheap funding
You choose :D
Eh you should know from expiriences that CB isn't cheap when it comes to pots =P. You don't train efficiently if you can't 1hko with SB. You lose alot of pot money. ANd if you want to train efficiently, then you need good equips, which that will cost money too lol. SIns are costy at first, but it' all pays after when your in the late levels, where training is not as pot consuming comparign to the drops you will find.
SorenEmblem
11-24-2006, 02:22 AM
Go Bandit, Savage Blow FTW!!!!!!
Someone gave me a 4x Bandit once, and it was soooo fun even though I only had a Razor, I was still doing 100 per hit with Lv 21 Savage Blow. XD
I was a Sin, but they get REALLY boring after 35. </3 Skill spamming in MS, maybe Sonic Blow in RO, or Mana Arrow in Trickster, but Lucky Seven in MS? Not my cup of tea....>.> (this is just an opinion)
olaph
11-24-2006, 03:28 AM
Go Bandit, Savage Blow FTW!!!!!!
Someone gave me a 4x Bandit once, and it was soooo fun even though I only had a Razor, I was still doing 100 per hit with Lv 21 Savage Blow. XD
I was a Sin, but they get REALLY boring after 35. </3 Skill spamming in MS, maybe Sonic Blow in RO, or Mana Arrow in Trickster, but Lucky Seven in MS? Not my cup of tea....>.> (this is just an opinion)
its like that for most characters
mages spam magic claw
archers spam double shot
warriors spam slash blast/power strike
bandits spam double stab
olaph spams anti noob mass lightning killing noobs instantly for 13337 damage
Chapper
12-11-2006, 07:33 PM
spam spam WakaLaka!:) spamming so it good to see for all of u guys so u can vote again :-/ :hmm:
Rodenty
12-11-2006, 07:55 PM
i want to be bandit but i need more moneys and help lvling in party questors
QWERTY
12-11-2006, 08:06 PM
Uhmm..
Sin = More DMG
Sin = Ranged
Sin = Easy lvling
Bandit = One of weakest classes, lower DMG than sins
Bandit = Melee
Bandit = Money problems
Bandit = No Mob skills untill 3th job
Bandit = Very hard to lvl
Bandit = No party, nobody needs you.
Bandit = Flashy skills
Go with the one you like.
Rodenty
12-11-2006, 08:36 PM
have u seen a decent bandit ive seen savage blow do 6k upwards ive seen no sin do that
sins are the one with money problems u need to fund ur self with stars and weaponry from forging etc
QWERTY
12-11-2006, 10:02 PM
have u seen a decent bandit ive seen savage blow do 6k upwards ive seen no sin do that
sins are the one with money problems u need to fund ur self with stars and weaponry from forging etc
Err, maybe because you have seen no other sins of that lvl? Don't try to proof that Bandits are stronger than sins, because it has already been proven the other way. Try to look for some topics on sw.net
A sin has a wider range dmg though, since they have to count on their crits. The bandit has more stable dmg, but it's lower than a sin.
Can you say Meso Explosion and Meso Guard? Not to mention that Bandits needs alot more HP pots since they have to fight close range and a sin can just attack from distance.
28 MP for a Savage Blow = drains MP pots = costs alot of money
kazoo
12-11-2006, 10:19 PM
Uhmm..
Sin = More DMG
Sin = Ranged
Sin = Easy lvling
Bandit = One of weakest classes, lower DMG than sins
Bandit = Melee
Bandit = Money problems
Bandit = No Mob skills untill 3th job
Bandit = Very hard to lvl
Bandit = No party, nobody needs you.
Bandit = Flashy skills
Go with the one you like.
Talk the talk, but can you walk the walk =P. I'd like to see how you got that sins are stronger. I need an explination and a damage chart from both characters, with average equips/satts/levels. And even if you are right, damage isn't the only tactic, what if you were in a pit ful of golems, who do you think you would rather be? The sin MIGHT be stronger, but he can't hit, since we will only punch.
QWERTY
12-11-2006, 10:41 PM
Talk the talk, but can you walk the walk =P. I'd like to see how you got that sins are stronger. I need an explination and a damage chart from both characters, with average equips/satts/levels. And even if you are right, damage isn't the only tactic, what if you were in a pit ful of golems, who do you think you would rather be? The sin MIGHT be stronger, but he can't hit, since we will only punch.
Woah, easy, it's not like i'm attacking on the Bandits or something, i'm a bandit myself.
L7 = 2 hits x 150% when maxed.
They can either hit the following:
2x 150% = 300% dmg
300% (crit) + 150% = 450% dmg
2x 300% (both crit) = 600% dmg
Savage Blow = 6 hits x 80% = 480% dmg all the time.
That's for the skills only. I don't know the rest, but for more info look on sw.net like I have said before.
Ofcourse damage isn't everything. I never said that it was.
kazoo
12-12-2006, 01:56 AM
Crit is 200% damage lol. Not 150%. And no reason to take it easy, Im not hasseling you =P. I just like to ask my opponents questions when they give facts/opinions. Gives me a wider range on how I think of a person. I like to get to know people around here thats all. That does show the damage, but note the fact that crit only works 50% of the time, and from past expiriences, I think thats full of bull. I bet I landed more 1337 damage,than I landed crits lol. And, you can't say sins will either land 700% damage, or 500% damage. Because critical also gives the chance of landing any crit between 0%- 200%. It's not either you get no cri, or 200% crit. Which makes it very unstable as you pointed out. I'm not going to go into Depth details, on the attack % of sins VS. Bandits. For sins it will take forever.
But I can roughly estimate, sins will only out damage Bandits, 20-30%% of the time. Im nt exactly sure, but if I was in the mood, I'd go through a whole dam exam work on the damage differences. Wheres Zadam when you need him! xD
magicjubin
12-12-2006, 01:58 AM
sins
you can level from 1-70 in less then 1 month
kazoo
12-12-2006, 02:02 AM
sins
you can level from 1-70 in less then 1 month
You can do that with any class.
olaph
12-12-2006, 02:05 AM
you should be an assbandit..they pwn everyone plus its sounds cooler then banditsin
kazoo
12-12-2006, 02:08 AM
you should be an assbandit..they pwn everyone plus its sounds cooler then banditsin
Ahahahah, you made my day...assbandit.
But seriously, I wouldn't suggest it if you are rich. Double stab comes in handy around level 50's.
shadowpk90
12-12-2006, 02:33 AM
umm Be a bandit because you seem not to have another character in maplestory to fund a sin with(no offfence)
and ive seen alot of mean sins out there MEANIES
us bandits we welcome you very nicely with cookies not showing off our overpriced scarabs or mambas or casters
You learn the ways of the Korean fan and you LOVE IT!
Refund
12-12-2006, 02:45 AM
Woah, easy, it's not like i'm attacking on the Bandits or something, i'm a bandit myself.
L7 = 2 hits x 150% when maxed.
They can either hit the following:
2x 150% = 300% dmg
300% (crit) + 150% = 450% dmg
2x 300% (both crit) = 600% dmg
Savage Blow = 6 hits x 80% = 480% dmg all the time.
That's for the skills only. I don't know the rest, but for more info look on sw.net like I have said before.
Ofcourse damage isn't everything. I never said that it was.
Don't forget about Assaulter and BoT in 3rd job! Assaulter blows some major damage when it's maxed, whether a good or bad dagger :p
Whereas with sins you'd have to be funded to be dealing good dmg, if you're comparing yourself with other sins, which happens automatically with any class.. but sins especially cause theres just to many of em and you just wanna be stronger than another XD
and plus Hermits stick with L7 forever.. however SP is pretty darn fun... but MG with CB = More soloing high lvl monsters, CRog for example :3 4k dmg... ;)
anyways, the classes are supposedly even, blah blah blah, i've had a 6x sin, that got boring.. claws are way to expensive ftw :( 80m pls 1 extra att :eye:
bah you get my point, though FJ + SP i must say.. is super KS + fun kekekekekekee weeeeeeeeee debates O_o
Glad my signature is motivating people :3 i do like 2.5k with assaulter on average now :p though it's only lv 7.. gonna pump the rest of the poitns into Assaulter starting with lv 76+ >_>
Edit: Damage IS everything, go be a warrior :D lmao F3
QWERTY
12-12-2006, 07:29 AM
Weee, I rerolled my char, archer ftw! (3th time i'm making a ranger -__-)
Chapper
12-22-2006, 08:29 PM
Maybe i'm gonna start a sindit i ain't realy poor and i can get 60% glvoe atk too sell. Is This an good idea. I didn't make a other thread.
Gundel
12-22-2006, 08:38 PM
you should be an assbandit..they pwn everyone plus its sounds cooler then banditsin
So youre an assbandit? Dis jus sounds WRONG XD
Ok, on topic, sin for sure. I saw many bandits/chief bandits die on the higher monsters or at the bosses, because bandits don't have high hp AND they don't have the evade boni from their dex and equip.
Currently the best class is sin.
PS: Of course Gundel is a proud Poisonmage since tespia XD
jokersgonewild
12-22-2006, 08:53 PM
i think a assain is better
kazoo
12-22-2006, 09:01 PM
i think a assain is better
You might wanna tell us why you think it's better to you. That's a bad asthetic. Neither is better, unless you are brining up an asthetic.
Expiriences from both class, i enjoyed both very much, When I was poor, I found bandit alot better, when I was a bit richer, I found Sins better because pf pretty damage. Now, since I can prety much get any essential thing for both classes, I find them even. But no lie, bandit was much more fun to train lvl 36-46 for me. After that was all sin. Now, I find bandit more fun, since I'm nearing to get a geta. Pretty it is. But heck, sindit aren't that good as you say. When you try to mess wit god's creation, you will pay back the same price. I got that from FullMetal or something lol, I'm just saying that, it might be much faster to level, but later on your going to regret it. Double stop is essential in mid levels if you are stingey about pots.
KrazyGunz
12-23-2006, 12:31 AM
I would say assasin because they use not to many hp pots and attack at a range but its pricey at the beggining becuase u chew up lots of mp -_-
Odachi
12-23-2006, 01:21 AM
Well I find Sins… More fun and a lot more easier to level (because you get to throw awesome stars that you wish yourself could do twirls and flips while throwing stars the size of your head!) J… but if you wish to go bandit please consider the long grueling hours in front of the computer… Skipping breakfast and lunch just to closer to your dream of reaching that magical 3rd job...ok maybe it’s a bit exaggerated but you get my drift.
KrazyGunz
12-23-2006, 02:02 AM
Well I find Sins… More fun and a lot more easier to level (because you get to throw awesome stars that you wish yourself could do twirls and flips while throwing stars the size of your head!) J… but if you wish to go bandit please consider the long grueling hours in front of the computer… Skipping breakfast and lunch just to closer to your dream of reaching that magical 3rd job...ok maybe it’s a bit exaggerated but you get my drift.lol thats just what im saying u take long hours to do that but assasins u can have so much fun!!:)
Oisterboy
12-23-2006, 02:44 PM
No sindit? I wish I had done that with my bandit...
magicjubin
12-23-2006, 06:20 PM
Lol, I have a 6x(deleted bad choice..:( ) sin and I personally enjoy playing my CB more, CB's 3rd job is more fun IMO however, Hermits have FJ.. and then again, we got ME and MG :) both classes are good.
Note: Assassin = Heavy funding
Bandit = Flashy moves + Cheap funding
You choose :D
pssh
assassin has flashier moves :P
andyways you should know that cb uses a sht load of money at 90ish
maple_allan
12-24-2006, 06:24 AM
Depends really. I got lvl 39 bandit and 35 sin...
Sin is expensive but does more damage.
Bandit is cheap.
Sin uses Lucky till lvl 70........
Bandit gets SB@@@@
Once Bnadit get SB they do more dmg
dits more hp
your choice!
Kevinboyz
12-24-2006, 09:42 AM
Bandits are having touble leveling atm while sins are leveling very fast :).
Bandits are fun... and sins are fun to.. I would go sin tho since they are stronger.. and faster... but bandits would be stronger if they use me... XO
@ maple_allan
your sig..?
" andyways you should know that cb uses a sht load of money at 90ish "
that's why they should train with dk/presit which is rare cuz no one wants a cb >_<
magicjubin
12-24-2006, 12:51 PM
Uhmm..
Sin = More DMG
Sin = Ranged
Sin = Easy lvling
Bandit = One of weakest classes, lower DMG than sins
Bandit = Melee
Bandit = Money problems
Bandit = No Mob skills untill 3th job
Bandit = Very hard to lvl
Bandit = No party, nobody needs you.
Bandit = Flashy skills
Go with the one you like.
lmao
half of those are contrasting cons and pros
pros of sins
decent if not , good speed
gets haste somewhat early
ranged
good/ above good damage
gets critical (yay pink numbers)
mastery is included with lucky 7
drain is like free hp potions when traning
cons of sins
expencive on pot money / scrolling / equips money
annoying up close
drain is useless on bosses
cant think of anything else
lucky 7 > sb (around 40% of the time due to critical)
l7 + critical = 250% + 250% =500%
sb = 420% (i dont know anything about bandits)
there fore if l7 gets critical on both stars (25%) then the damage will be greater than bandits att
oh and seeing how long it toook savagaazn to become 3rd job
assassin>bandit
kazoo
12-24-2006, 03:24 PM
lmao
half of those are contrasting cons and pros
pros of sins
decent if not , good speed
gets haste somewhat early
ranged
good/ above good damage
gets critical (yay pink numbers)
mastery is included with lucky 7
drain is like free hp potions when traning
cons of sins
expencive on pot money / scrolling / equips money
annoying up close
drain is useless on bosses
cant think of anything else
lucky 7 > sb (around 40% of the time due to critical)
l7 + critical = 250% + 250% =500%
sb = 420% (i dont know anything about bandits)
there fore if l7 gets critical on both stars (25%) then the damage will be greater than bandits att
But Jubey, Critical will not always land a 200% attack power one. The 50% chance of critical inclludes the chance of gettting 1%, 2%, 3% and so on all the way to 200% crit. Maximum is 200%. You don't always land a 200$ or no crit at all. So to determine who's stronger you would have to make a damage chart. Or crit iniating or not, and if it does, show the attack from 1% too 200%. Then compare who outdamages who more. Then calculate the precentage of that. Lots of work, like I stated earlier, where's Zadam to do all this?! XD
Chapper
12-29-2006, 08:50 AM
i'm going bandit because i think there old skool and i already got him on lvl 39 so ollmost lvl 40 in 3 weeks (played all the time when 2X exp). lets jsut keep posting here about this so we can help other people with this problem:eye:
kidkite1
12-29-2006, 09:03 AM
Has anyone encountered a boss yet?
has anyone encountered a boss yet?
SS4Gojeta
12-29-2006, 09:06 AM
umm..hermit = yay cb = nay
my cb does 5.8k damage while my good hermit does 9.4k damage! WOHHO CHECK OUT THE DAMAGE DIFF!
both lvl 81 too so dont cmplain you know you want assassin
kidkite1
12-29-2006, 09:07 AM
sorry i have no idea what the heck i'm doing...:hmm:
magicjubin
12-29-2006, 03:06 PM
But Jubey, Critical will not always land a 200% attack power one. The 50% chance of critical inclludes the chance of gettting 1%, 2%, 3% and so on all the way to 200% crit. Maximum is 200%. You don't always land a 200$ or no crit at all. So to determine who's stronger you would have to make a damage chart. Or crit iniating or not, and if it does, show the attack from 1% too 200%. Then compare who outdamages who more. Then calculate the precentage of that. Lots of work, like I stated earlier, where's Zadam to do all this?! XD
zadam last posted on WOW fourms 1 month ago:(
ss4gojeta
sb is 480% damage
assulter is 450% damage
assulter is used for knobkback while sb is usued for damage
step by step
(0 defence on the monster)
bandit first cause its easy
80% damage x 6 hits = 480% damage
will always hit 480% damage
Now for sin -somethings wrong-
no critical (25% chance of occuring)
150% damage x 2 = 300% damage
critical on 1 star. (50% chance)
1% critical
151% x 150% damage = 301% damage
5% critical
155% x 150% damage = 305% damage
10% critical
160% x 150% damage = 310% damage
25% critical
175% x 150% damage = 325% damage
50% critical
200% x 150% damage = 350% damage
66% critical
211% x 150% damage = 361% damage
75% critical
225% x 150% damage = 375% damage
90% critical
240% critical x 150% damage = 390% damage
100% critical
250% x 150% damage = 400% damage
both star critical (25%)
1% critical
151% x 151% damage = 302% damage
2% critical
152% x 152% damage = 304% damage
4% critical
154% x 154% damage = 308% damage
5% critical
155% x 155% damage = 310% damage
10% critical
160% x 160% damage = 320% damage
15% critical
165% x 165% damage = 330% damage
25% critical
175% x 175% damage = 350% damage
50% critical
200% x 200% damage = 400% damage
75% critical
225% x 225% damage = 450% damage
80% critical
230% x 230% damage = 460% damage
90% critical
240% x 240% damage = 480% damage -goal reached
100% critical
250% x 250% damage = 500% damage
of course, critical isnt always gonna be the same number for the critical on each star.
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