some pretty severe seeming stuff was going on last night, including hacking and weird mod power abuse (I personally stand by Sandman, no matter what.) But it seems to have everyone even more in a tizzy than usual after the... er, upheaval. So, does anyone have the (unbiased, thank you) details? all I got from it was some weird and annoying grudge/spam posts by a certain user....

Well if you stand by Sandman than hell, so do I! I know I can trust you SilverIce.

Haha.. well it was nothing really bad. I just got a little mob after me for something I'm not really sure about...

I would say something but I don't feel like being banned.

Edit: It involves Sandman and Phoix.

I would say something but I don't feel like being banned.

Edit: It involves Sandman and Phoix.

It sort-of involved Kichi too.

And I resigned, I don't want to be reinstated. >_>

Well, there were just a few threads that Sandman closed. He claims that Phoix kept opening the threads again, and got really pissed at him. So, now you see that Phoix became a Temp Mod. The, it seems that Availer spammed MMORPGHell, and Kichi posted a few threads regarding that.

As for everything else, read the reforming thread, and the 'Onrpg going downhill" threads. It'll give you a good idea of what's happening.

Oh, and Silver, I suggest that you don't stand by someone because you like them. Stand by someone because you know what they did was right and because you believe the facts surrounding them.

Well, there were just a few threads that Sandman closed. He claims that Phoix kept opening the threads again, and got really pissed at him. So, now you see that Phoix became a Temp Mod. The, it seems that Availer spammed MMORPGHell, and Kichi posted a few threads regarding that.

As for everything else, read the reforming thread, and the 'Onrpg going downhill" threads. It'll give you a good idea of what's happening.

Oh, and Silver, I suggest that you don't stand by someone because you like them. Stand by someone because you know what they did was right and because you believe the facts surrounding them.

I opened the topics because Sandman wouldn't answer the questions, so he demoted me and removed me from General.

well, I stand by sandman because he does his job well. He locks what deserves to be locked, and I have seldom had a dispute with his mod use. and Phoix, by the way, you should have consulted Sandman at least, and not denied it when you were caught.

well, I stand by sandman because he does his job well. He locks what deserves to be locked, and I have seldom had a dispute with his mod use. and Phoix, by the way, you should have consulted Sandman at least, and not denied it when you were caught.

Still, he demoted me and removed me from General without even telling me to stop. When I went to look, there was a big bold thing telling me to stop and I was demoted.

Oh, it's funny that I got warned for posting off-site stuff...when 90% of the time somebody posts off-site things, and they don't get warned.

I could have sworn there is no Youtube on ONRPG...funny...I must have ate too much turkey tonight...::Sarcasm::

Yeah, this thread pretty much explains what happened, and it's funny Sandman, you said you don't know why, when I pretty much explained in DETAIL for BOTH threads, the issue.

Good day.

Well if you stand by Sandman than hell, so do I! I know I can trust you SilverIce.

thanks man! it means a lot! and I believe that sandman is the real asset... in fact...

well, I stand by sandman because he does his job well. He locks what deserves to be locked, and I have seldom had a dispute with his mod use. and Phoix, by the way, you should have consulted Sandman at least, and not denied it when you were caught.
Even so, it's great that you have faith in him, but you shouldn't act like you're always on someone's side. As you know, everyone makes mistakes, every moderators. I'm not saying anything against Sandman, just telling Silver that he should look, and understand before making a stance against someone.

I have never noticed how many followers went to ONRPG...it's really suprising me...funny infact.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/1156/sandmanpwnsbw9.png
if there's a saint is teh shit one, why not a Sandman53 pwns?

Wow SilverIce...wow...

Hoping to get mod status are we?

Wow SilverIce...wow...

Hoping to get mod status are we?

I don't want to say this, but doing that is just *** kissing.

no, but I support sandman 100% as a strict, fair mod. I know that things may change, but until they do, I believe him to be the best mod, handling spam and offensive posts better than anyone else.

no, but I support sandman 100% as a strict, fair mod. I know that things may change, but until they do, I believe him to be the best mod, handling spam and offensive posts better than anyone else.

If Sandman was a normal mod, you'd probably be behind TerrinBlaze.

eh? I've seen Terrin around a couple times, but not too much, and as for Sandman, what do you mean, normal? he seems normal...

eh? I've seen Terrin around a couple times, but not too much, and as for Sandman, what do you mean, normal? he seems normal...

Sandman has more power than Phoix.
In other words he can do things Phoix can't.

SilverIce...wow...you're quite the character...

no, but I support sandman 100% as a strict, fair mod. I know that things may change, but until they do, I believe him to be the best mod, handling spam and offensive posts better than anyone else.

Don't move, any closer and you might get a little brown on your nose!

Stop sucking up to him, you're not going to become a mod, you're not getting any brownie points, you're getting to be an annoyance...that is all you're "getting".

Lay off it please. There is a difference between "respect" and "***-kissing". A difference quite a few people around here don't seem to realise.

LET me clear this up. I don't want to get "brownie points" so i can be a mod. I might not even be able to handle the responsibility of a mod, and notice that my plan wouldn't have worked, anyways? do you see Sandman? no, he's off being a mod, not watching me suck up. he's doing his job. Me, yeah, in my mind then being a mod would be pretty okay, but if I got to be a mod, it would be through the other mods/admins appreciation of me, not because I sucked up. do you honestly think that any mod could get so flattered that he or she would drop everything and make me a mod cause I liked them? no, I just wanted to show how impressed I was by Sandman's excellent performance.

Lay off it please. There is a difference between "respect" and "***-kissing". A difference quite a few people around here don't seem to realise. behold the miracle! Jabor understands!

LET me clear this up. I don't want to get "brownie points" so i can be a mod. I might not even be able to handle the responsibility of a mod, and notice that my plan wouldn't have worked, anyways? do you see Sandman? no, he's off being a mod, not watching me suck up. he's doing his job. Me, yeah, in my mind then being a mod would be pretty okay, but if I got to be a mod, it would be through the other mods/admins appreciation of me, not because I sucked up. do you honestly think that any mod could get so flattered that he or she would drop everything and make me a mod cause I liked them? no, I just wanted to show how impressed I was by Sandman's excellent performance.

behold the miracle! Jabor understands!

You actually believe Sandman won't read this topic?...Haha...right.

He's probably looking for threads Phoix, Saint, or I post in. -.-;

hmmm. you think? I mean, you have been kind of rude and... well, frankly, a bit of a dick. saint had been... unreliable recently, and Phoix got his mod powers stripped for un-modly conduct...
also, yeah, he'll pop his head in, and if anything lock it for spamming. I'm out before that happens. anyone who also respects and supports sandman may use my userbar.

hmmm. you think? I mean, you have been kind of rude and... well, frankly, a bit of a dick. saint had been... unreliable recently, and Phoix got his mod powers stripped for un-modly conduct...
also, yeah, he'll pop his head in, and if anything lock it for spamming. I'm out before that happens. anyone who also respects and supports sandman may use my userbar.

Oh noes. I unlocked a topic. I'M SUCH A ****ING ROGUE. <_<. My gang of rogue vandals and myself plan to go downtown and jaywalk tonight.

EDIT: Wait. I unlocked two topics.

Theres a fine line from being 'strict' and being 'strict'.

A forum shouldn't just be consumed by its rules and regalations.
Can't we, as a community, have our fun?
I mean yeah, stop all the advertisement of sites, pure spam posts, and dumbass users. But whats wrong with going a bit off topic? Its not like a person is talking about chicken, and a random user talks about apples.

hmmm. you think? I mean, you have been kind of rude and... well, frankly, a bit of a dick. saint had been... unreliable recently, and Phoix got his mod powers stripped for un-modly conduct...
also, yeah, he'll pop his head in, and if anything lock it for spamming. I'm out before that happens. anyone who also respects and supports sandman may use my userbar.

Actually, Sandman didn't do crap.

Phoix resigned...get the facts straight.

I told myself I wouldn't... but I need to intervene. Sandman took away Phoix's mod powers, making him a temp mod, so then Phoix (apparently) resigned.

Except you forgot the minor detail that is, PHOIX WAS GOING TO RESIGN ANYWAYS...Why do you think he kept unlocking all the topics? Because he didn't care, he wanted answers, I want answers. That's what you don't understand with your feeble little bubble in which Sandy is God.

Intervene as much as you want you little suckup, all you are to Sandy is a pebble in the road.

Ok as far as telling Phoix to stop... I posted and told him to stop. I would have contacted him on a messenger but he blocked me which prevented me from doing that. The staff has a certain way of going about our duties, and unlocking a locked topic without consulting the mod that locked it is rude.

And I don't care if people kiss *** around here. Let them do what they want... It's not like its hurting anyone else. It doesn't mean I will value them more or less than any other member. What Kichi did was just wrong. We do not want the problems of other forums dragged to Onrpg. This has always been our philosiphy... To keep matters like that in PM's or outside the forum in a messenger or something. And posting someones IP is NOT COOL. That is why I warned him once. Thats it... Otherwise he really hasn't broken any rules so I have had no reason to warn him.

As for Saint, he is now a normal member and is as such subject to the same rules that all of our members are. Which is why he has the warnings he has. He made dispute one of them, but it was rightfully issued.

So let's just let this big mess go, and move on people. Don't get stuck in the past... it will only hurt you in the long run.

And just so you know... I don't play favorites...

*edit*
As far as I'm concerned I did answer the thread that needed to be answered. I gave you the reason as to why I banned who I banned. I never have had to give any proof before than, and I don't think I have to as Captain whatever deserved the ban he got! Now you may disagree with me but that doesn't matter to me right now because I spent a good 30 minutes cleaning up his damn mess.

As for the whole Availer thing, keep it off the forums. It doesn't belong here.

Ok as far as telling Phoix to stop... I posted and told him to stop. I would have contacted him on a messenger but he blocked me which prevented me from doing that. The staff has a certain way of going about our duties, and unlocking a locked topic without consulting the mod that locked it is rude.

And I don't care if people kiss *** around here. Let them do what they want... It's not like its hurting anyone else. It doesn't mean I will value them more or less than any other member. What

Kichi did was just wrong. We do not want the problems of other forums dragged to Onrpg. This has always been our philosiphy... To keep matters like that in PM's or outside the forum in a messenger or something. And posting someones IP is NOT COOL. That is why I warned him once. Thats it... Otherwise he really hasn't broken any rules so I have had no reason to warn him.

As for Saint, he is now a normal member and is as such subject to the same rules that all of our members are. Which is why he has the warnings he has. He made dispute one of them, but it was rightfully issued.

So let's just let this big mess go, and move on people. Don't get stuck in the past... it will only hurt you in the long run.

And just so you know... I don't play favorites...

You could've PMed me and told me to stop, BUT OH WAIT YOU REMOVED MY MOD STATUS SO MY INBOX WAS FULL AND I COULDN'T RECIEVE PM'S. <_<

thanks for clearing that up. now you all have no reason to bother me. I'm not doing it to gain favor (as posted above) i'm doing it because I respect him, and yeah, maybe a little bit worship him, cause he's just simply the best.

thanks for clearing that up. now you all have no reason to bother me. I'm not doing it to gain favor (as posted above) i'm doing it because I respect him, and yeah, maybe a little bit worship him, cause he's just simply the best.

...Funny...It really is.

You know, it might just be me and the forums I frequent, but when a mod/admin asks you to drop a topic, just dropping the topic is usually the best course of action! Is that really too much to ask?

I'm not doing it for favor. He already made that clear. Even if I waned to, it wouldn't work.

*looks left*
*looks right*
Is it safe now? Is the flaming over? Will I get scorched by the flames of...er...flaming?

If you play Noobscape, yes, otherwise, no.

Yes to it being over, or yes to me getting "scorched by the flames of...er...flaming"?

Yes to being scorched by the flames of all the RS-haters who ever existed on this forum. Seriously, half of them will come out of retirement for the pleasure.

Yes to being scorched by the flames of all the RS-haters who ever existed on this forum. Seriously, half of them will come out of retirement for the pleasure.

Uh-oh, someone's going off topic. Sandy, lock it now!

Off-topic? The topic was long-dead when I posted that post.

Off-topic? The topic was long-dead when I posted that post.

It stayed fairly on-topic until you started talking about Runescape. Kthxbye!

And now we are off topic... *locked*