<b>Team name:</b>
Po2 Mob

<b>Project name:</b>
Naruto Web

<b>Brief description:</b>
Naruto MMORPG based of the anime series MMORPG.

<b>Target aim:</b>
Freeware

<b>Compensation:</b>
No pay, just name in the credits and can use my as a referral.

<b>Technology:</b>
We need artist so any tools that artist use are good. paint, photoshop, anything.

<b>Talent needed:</b>
We need 2d pixel artist and people who can create a user interface for the game

<b>Team structure:</b>
Sim: Lead Programmer and project manager. thats me
Blue: Lead artist.

both have been with project for over 2 yeras.

<b>Website:</b>
www.po2mob.com

<b>Contacts:</b>
contact on forum : www.po2mob.com
aim: ninja sim
msn: sim@po2.net
yahoo: psychotomus_simm

<b>Additional Info:</b>
ScreenShots:
http://www.po2upload.com/view_file.php?file=2editor.JPG
http://www.po2upload.com/view_file.php?file=2we3.jpg
http://www.po2upload.com/view_file.php?file=2worldeditor.JPG

<b>Feedback:</b>
Any.

Looks like you've put lots of effort into this, and it looks rather nice.

Unfortunately, due to copyright issues, the company that owns Naruto will shut you down.

Yo, David Sat, aka Blue from po2mob.. aka, AoKage, here. As Psychotomus / Sim mentioned, I'm the lead artist for the game and have been on the project for two years.

There is no question whether or not this game will be completed... Sim and I can finish this project by ourselves, and after having spent so much time on it already, we're prepared to continue working on it until it is complete.

The real question is when will we finish it? There is no doubt that we have made great progress in the past two years, and that we will continue making progress. However, we are not satisfied at the rate we are making and have been making progress... There is much work to be done, especially for a team of two. That is why we need your help; we want you on our team:

Passionate artists and programmers, alike... as I mentioned, we've made great progress, and that progress is visible, and you can see for yourself at http://www.po2mob.com ...with your help, we can accelerate that progress and finally complete this wonderful game.

You don't have to worry about us abandoning this, as we've been dedicated since the beginning, and the more time we spend on it, the more dedicated we become to it...

We are aware of the licensing issue concerning a game of this nature, and if worst comes to worst, we are prepared to simply change the name. The game itself will be loosely based of naruto, and simple change of various terms/names will hopefully solve it, as we don't plan on including any characters from the anime.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

David Sat; alias Blue
Lead Artist, Programmers of 2000
bluefactor@gmail.com
www.Po2Mob.com

Do you have a need for any database work?

Do you have a need for any database work?

database programming or design?

Looks like you've put lots of effort into this, and it looks rather nice.

Unfortunately, due to copyright issues, the company that owns Naruto will shut you down.

No offense, but will you be shut up. Your so annoying, every topic, the company is gonna shut you down, the company will stop this, blah, blah. Not all comapnys are like that, alls you use for example is Chrono Trigger, & that's just Square Enix.

No offense, but will you be shut up. Your so annoying, every topic, the company is gonna shut you down, the company will stop this, blah, blah. Not all comapnys are like that, alls you use for example is Chrono Trigger, & that's just Square Enix.It's now evident you know absolutely nothing of corporate businesses, copyright, or game design. There is no good and evil. A company's job is to release their product and earn money. They're not "nice" and "forgiving" when it comes to kids stealing their products for their own use. Simon appears to know what he's talking about, unlike you. By the way, your "Digimon Fan MMO" appears to be breaking copyright infringement as well.

thats why theres a © on almost every website. Copyright content can be used but it cant be used for commercial use unless you buy the license from the company.

No offense, but will you be shut up. Your so annoying, every topic, the company is gonna shut you down, the company will stop this, blah, blah. Not all comapnys are like that, alls you use for example is Chrono Trigger, & that's just Square Enix.

If you only believe Square Enix enforces copyright, you're highly mistaken. Chrono Trigger is used an example because the MMO was a huge project full of talented people that got extremely far, only to be shut down and all of their work for naught.

All companies enforce copyright because they're out for a profit. Allowing all of these small projects to simply use their intellectual property is marketing that they are not profiting from.

So yes, all companies are like that, unless you specifically purchase rights, which can only be fit into a budget of professional proportions.

Finally, no, I will not "be shut up" just because you're ignorant.

Listen to me, it's legal as long as you don't use it for money. I'm sure this guy ain't usin' it for money either.

thats exactly correct stunt, see if companies were out to cut people who use there copyright material, wouldnt they shut down all fansites of there company ? since technicly fansites are using copyright material. Its 100% legal to use a copyright item as long as that person using it dont sell or use the content to profit.

Digimon: © Akiyoshi Hongo · Toei Animation. TM & © 1997-2006 Bandai. DIGIMON, DIGITAL MONSTERS and all related logos, names and distinctive likenesses thereof are the property of Bandai/Toei Animation. Used under license by Bandai America Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.


So...nope. Whether it's being sold or not has nothing to do with it. It's merely the fact that you're using it without permission.

I'd REALLY appreciate if you did research on this before responding.

The logos are copyright and full owned by the company yes, but that cant stop a person from using them in a signature or anything else as for say a fansite of that company, the TM and (c) at the bottem of any content are only there to show that its copyright and content of that company.

yes i understand that you may need permssions from the company on certain things but to be able to use the image o anything within a simple fansite or signature is ok as long as you abide that it was made and is trademark of the company.

Digimon: © Akiyoshi Hongo · Toei Animation. TM & © 1997-2006 Bandai. DIGIMON, DIGITAL MONSTERS and all related logos, names and distinctive likenesses thereof are the property of Bandai/Toei Animation. Used under license by Bandai America Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.


So...nope. Whether it's being sold or not has nothing to do with it. It's merely the fact that you're using it without permission.

I'd REALLY appreciate if you did research on this before responding.

Like Force said, if what your saying is true, that means, if I wanted to make a freewebs website & wanted to put a picture of a Digimon on it, I'd have to get Bandai's permission just for that small thing. But what your saying is not true.

As long as you put a copyright to Bandai on your site, you perfectly fine.

The logos are copyright and full owned by the company yes, but that cant stop a person from using them in a signature or anything else as for say a fansite of that company, the TM and (c) at the bottem of any content are only there to show that its copyright and content of that company.

Owners of copyright are much less concerned about stupid little things like sigs, because it's too widespread to be dealt with. However, distributing an entire game without proper license is in clear violation of the copright.

Technically, people who create signatures are subject to receive orders to "cease and desist", but it's totally impractical to stop them.

Just because the companies are lax about signatures and fansites doesn't at all give you the right to go ahead, take the material, and create a game out of it. Why? Because games are marketed material, regardless of whether they're free or not. Fansites are not marketed.

As long as you put a copyright to Bandai on your site, you perfectly fine.

Not if it's marketed multimedia.

well thats called piracy, any content that needs to be bought is just common sence that its the tm and copyright material of that company, but if you make a game thats the same to that other game but has major unfinished features and if you give it away for free its considered a fanbased game, take a look at FPSC people make star wars fan games but dont sell them because they cant. Making games based on one game is ok because there not going to be as good and plus you cant sell them.

you guys are fun to debate with but im going to have to back off for a while i need to eat and take a shower you are all fun to chat with here but bye for now.

I like the way you re-drew the Naruto characters but don't you think you should have just have made brand new characters? :confused: Then there wouldn't be this discussion. :rolleyes: Maybe that's just my creativity kicking in. In fact, I make ninja drawings like the ones from Naruto at school. No copyright infringement there. :D ... I think? :p

I like the way you re-drew the Naruto characters but don't you think you should have just have made brand new characters? :confused: Then there wouldn't be this discussion. :rolleyes: Maybe that's just my creativity kicking in. In fact, I make ninja drawings like the ones from Naruto at school. No copyright infringement there. :D ... I think? :p

Anything in a very close likeness of a character would be considered copyright infringement. Designing original characters in of itself would not be copyright infringement, but setting the game in the Naruto universe would really be pushing it, so it's a little iffy.

If you simply switched things around a little and made it similar to the world of Naruto but with no explicit or clear reference to it, then you'd be fine.

edit: although it would be nice to say, for example, "Inspired by Naruto, © whatever."

what the hell are you people talking about. this topic is not about digimon. im not making no digimon game. You guys ruined my thread by thinking this was the digimon thread.

what the hell are you people talking about. this topic is not about digimon. im not making no digimon game. You guys ruined my thread by thinking this was the digimon thread.

Sorry for being unclear, I was making a reference to his own game project. If you steer clear of potential issues, as stated, I have no problems with the project whatsoever and wish you the best of luck.:)

I guess your write with the "similarity infringement" but my drawings are just like teenage ninjas that have head protectors lol. 100% for fun :p I was actually kinda busy and didn't get a chance to read the WHOLE thread but if you really want to make a Naruto game, I dunno what to do. (maybe e-mail them but I doubt' that you'll get a reply lol) Anywho, you may be able to if you give them credit. :rolleyes: (dunno ;) )

I guess your write with the "similarity infringement" but my drawings are just like teenage ninjas that have head protectors lol. 100% for fun :p I was actually kinda busy and didn't get a chance to read the WHOLE thread but if you really want to make a Naruto game, I dunno what to do. (maybe e-mail them but I doubt' that you'll get a reply lol) Anywho, you may be able to if you give them credit. :rolleyes: (dunno ;) )

The owner of Naruto will stalk you down and decapitate you for making drawings. How dare you.

See, Naruto can't just give away its license to any 'ol game project it gets an e-mail from. It could, technically, but a) it wouldn't get any profit, and b) there are hundreds of these potential game projects and it's either none or all, or else they'd be showing favoritism that they...don't have.

edit: Enough talk of this, we've strayed way too much. If anyone would like to continue debate feel free to PM me or IM me or somesuch.