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kazoo
01-31-2007, 11:47 PM
You might already know what I'm going to be hosting today, on "Kazoo's daily Topic" I'm here to ask, what build should I go for a chief bandit? I'm nearing 3rd job, level 65, almost 66, and I have no idea what to do. I read a few guides, and they all have valid points. Yet I still ahve a blurred out mind, and I can;t decide.
Build 1.) Assaulter First.
This buils is exactly like it says.. Max assaulter asap, then get 6 meso guard, and on with BoT.(Band of thieves, a mob attack.)
Build2.) BoT First. Exactly like assaulter build, but vice-versa.
Build3.) A little of both. My very first SP, will go into Assaulter. Then I will get level 18 BoT, seeing as how BoT will summon up to 4 thieves. Good enough right? After lvl 18 BoT, I will get 6 meso guard, then max assaulter, then back with BoT.

These 3 builds are all good. I just don';t know what to pick >.<.

Build 1, is mainly for soloing, Meaning I will be at zombies till 83+ Maybe I will move to Mixed Golems in the late 7x's

Build 2.) Mob attack, I guess it's pretty good, mobbing, but where would i train that i would mob consistently? Zombies spawn rate are good, FoG spawn rate is excellen. But is it worth the MP cost? I mean 50mp per an atatck, thats nearly double savageblow...

Build 3.) I sorta think I'm going to go this build. Because level 18 bot is good enough, or is it? I will get assaulter sooner to go to MDT quickly, yet still have a decent mob attack.

So in conclusion, I need serious help... I have no idea which to pick >.>. Asking for some tips, or new builds which worked effectively for some of you, or your friends. Thanks in advanced

Kazoo<3__~!

SS4Gojeta
01-31-2007, 11:50 PM
i chooese number 3!


that is all.

magicjubin
01-31-2007, 11:52 PM
i choose number 1

you just outleveld me :(
im like 25% behind you

HappyViet
01-31-2007, 11:54 PM
if you like attacking a single monster, go with assaulter.

if you like attacking many monsters at a time, go with Band of Thieves.

i personaly would go with band of thieves cuz i like attacking more then one monster. more exp and more chance to find items.

magicjubin
02-01-2007, 12:00 AM
if you like attacking a single monster, go with assaulter.

if you like attacking many monsters at a time, go with Band of Thieves.

i personaly would go with band of thieves cuz i like attacking more then one monster. more exp and more chance to find items.


but where whould he train?

HappyViet
02-01-2007, 12:03 AM
but where whould he train?

uhhh... somewhere weaker then if he had a max assaulter. that's like around yetis. while assaulter would be around lycantheropes or werewolfs... :-/

depends... i like killing mobs in one hit or two.

magicjubin
02-01-2007, 12:09 AM
uhhh... somewhere weaker then if he had a max assaulter. that's like around yetis. while assaulter would be around lycantheropes or werewolfs... :-/

depends... i like killing mobs in one hit or two.


that would use up wayy too much potion money and the risk of dying is somewhat high

HappyViet
02-01-2007, 12:16 AM
that would use up wayy too much potion money and the risk of dying is somewhat high

which would? the assaulter or the bot training? O_o

Hellz
02-01-2007, 12:39 AM
Number one. I have a friend that went assaulter first and her friend went band of thieves first so they could both see which is better and it seemed that maxing assaulter first was a better choice. You don't have to necessarily max it out right away though, you could get like 3 meso explosion and a few pickpocket then continue maxing assaulter.

And I was never told of a chief bandit! Why didn't you add me Ding!

EDIT: Oh yeah and the higher your assaulter is the higher the stun rate, that could save you from dying.

xChrome
02-01-2007, 12:43 AM
I say 3.

But Ding, since you're rich, you should get Meso Explosion earlier on so you can train at Gobies. You make money fast as hell, anyway. >_>

Sketchyx
02-01-2007, 01:06 AM
Il make up my own build :). Ok first of all from my cb experience i say max out BOt first. Tons of people will think im crazy but if you want to mob with pickpocket there is no point in getting assaulter. Since assaulter hits 1 time it only gonna drop a few messos. But if you use savage blow it will drop a lot more since its 6 hits and with BoT you will own. So to wrap this up get 18 BoT and then get 3 messo guard then get 5 pickpocket. This is only if you want to mob a lot. After all this max assaulter since youl probably be heading at vikings around 90. Hope this helps

Also savage blow will out damage assulter probably until about level 20 assaulter. So youl be fine using it instead of assaulter if u stay at zombies

Endless
02-01-2007, 01:16 AM
Personally, I don't like Assaulter much. Sure it does a great deal of damage, but it also takes time to charge, and it's not really good when you attack most monsters. At level 70 or so, most people train at Yetis. Those yeti's will be in great mobs, and if you went with Assaulter first, it might be hard to train. I suggest number 2. Max Band of Thieves first, then proceed to getting Assaulter. That's just my opinion though, you might like assaulter, you might not.

magicjubin
02-01-2007, 01:23 AM
which would? the assaulter or the bot training? O_o

bot traning

shadowpk90
02-01-2007, 01:46 AM
I need somebody to explain the % of damage dealt by savage blow then % by assaulter i thought it was 460%SB and 400% Assaulter because if it is so


4GET ASSOULTER GET PICKPOCKET AND SB THEN DO SOME MESO EXPLOSIONS LIKE AZREALDAVE DOES!!

kazoo
02-01-2007, 02:43 AM
I need somebody to explain the % of damage dealt by savage blow then % by assaulter i thought it was 460%SB and 400% Assaulter because if it is so


4GET ASSOULTER GET PICKPOCKET AND SB THEN DO SOME MESO EXPLOSIONS LIKE AZREALDAVE DOES!!

SB might be stronger, but it gives like NO knock back damage. Though I usualy train on 1kho monsters, but I also go to monsters which I 2hko. Assaulter also gives stun, which is great for soloing lycans and stuff. Btw, Ala, and Ben, I'm in Windia with my real life friends, that's why I didn't add you. I'm sorta poor in Windia, I can't play the market without a NXstore. And if I play the market without the store, I won't be able to rush to 70.

Meh, what's so gret about maxing band of thives? mostt of the time, at zombies or so,you USUALY don't get a mob of 6. Or did I read the skill description rong :S? Does it always hit 6 enemies, no matter the level ?

Anyways, I might go with build 3. I'm not to sure. It's either build 3 or 1. Build one uses less pots. And I will never get KS'ed at zombies. Build 3, FoG FTW! But there are hackers there >.>. Hard decision....

Refund
02-01-2007, 03:09 AM
*lurking*
since it's kazoo, i'll tell you.
You do it MY way >_>
Unlock every skill(it's more fun that way) I think that takes til 75(don't get the shield mastery thing)
then work assaulter to lv20, that'll take you to lv80,81 don't remember, then get lv 18bot then max assaulter, then make mg to like lv3-5 then max bot then the other stuff.

if you're ognna goby, you MUST have MG, or you'll die to often
or just not listen to me and be a crappy luk dit that goes BoT first >_>

I encourage you peoples to get lv20 assaulter first!@! ;)
ignore those crazy people and their BoT build xD
however, i do admit I used at least 50m+ to lvl to 85 in a short amount of time.(it includes pots and all for gobys, btw, 500k a death, so don't die)

Edit: Listen to me because I'm legit and I'm passed that phase where i decide on my build. :D
Edit2: If you don't do my build... I'll come ks you at zombies. >=)
Edit3: Whats your IGN on Windia?

Sketchyx
02-01-2007, 03:13 AM
i find assaulter first so useless seriously. until level 90 wen you need the damage
for vikings. Also how come you dont reccomend getting pickpocket. Maxin or getting BoT to 20 is so much better. Also get 1 messo explosion and like 5 pickpocket and youl do fine. Zac has seen me use them and its so godly lol. SB+pickpocket+ M.e= OWNAGE :)

magicjubin
02-01-2007, 03:54 AM
SB is stronger than assulter

SB = 6x X 80% damage = 480% damage

Assulter = 450% damage

SB must go through defence 6 times while assulter 1

to clear up

SB > assulter early on
but later when you fight things with defence Assulter > SB

HappyViet
02-01-2007, 05:08 AM
assaulter also has a chance of running into a monster behind the one you attacked. so if there's a big mob and you use assaulter, you'll be sure to run into the monster in back.

magicjubin
02-01-2007, 12:30 PM
assaulter also has a chance of running into a monster behind the one you attacked. so if there's a big mob and you use assaulter, you'll be sure to run into the monster in back.

hey its better than having all the monsters mob into you cause BOT wont kill them in 1 hit

12ayy92
02-01-2007, 12:37 PM
meso explosion, max that first fk the rest

only work sif ur rich tho, like w/ my bandit iw ould go to squids dark sight dorp a few bags to kill them com out and bomb em up casue its ez lvling.

don't get boT first. it blows

assaulter

Hellz
02-01-2007, 06:02 PM
I still say build 1 is better; the assaulter will help a lot more but getting a few points into 'splosion would be really useful. Pickpocket only starts dropping gold coins around the level where it's almost maxed and isn't useful unless you're fighting monsters you use SB on(meaning it'll be around 6 coins per SB) but you'll probably want to go to gobis so I still say a fair amount of points into assaulter and meso explosion with some meso gaurd(meso gaurd seriously is a live saver) and you should be pretty much set.

Unleashed
02-01-2007, 06:13 PM
The quantity of coins dropped by pickpocket depends on how much damage you do with an attack. If you were to use a low level Assaulter with pickpocket and explosion, Savage Blow would be more useful with that combination. Depending on whether or not you can endure training OHKO or at those FoG maps for a bit longer you could go BoT. But if you'd rather be training at El Nath and Ludi, Assaulter is the choice. BoT is more common because it also works with pickpocket, and is a mob attack. Both builds take a while to show any significant signs of damage changes, either way, get a decent level Meso explosion and guard so you can go Gobi-ing(I've never been able to go so I don't know, but Refund seems to have experience) until you have enough SP in assaulter or BoT.

kazoo
02-01-2007, 08:17 PM
The quantity of coins dropped by pickpocket depends on how much damage you do with an attack. If you were to use a low level Assaulter with pickpocket and explosion, Savage Blow would be more useful with that combination. Depending on whether or not you can endure training OHKO or at those FoG maps for a bit longer you could go BoT. But if you'd rather be training at El Nath and Ludi, Assaulter is the choice. BoT is more common because it also works with pickpocket, and is a mob attack. Both builds take a while to show any significant signs of damage changes, either way, get a decent level Meso explosion and guard so you can go Gobi-ing(I've never been able to go so I don't know, but Refund seems to have experience) until you have enough SP in assaulter or BoT.

What level is decent for ME? And I don't think I can afford training at gobies. I'm not in Scania, I'm not too rich. That's kinda why I left out the ME builld. and Refund, once I expand my list, I'll be sure to add you. I think I'll go assasulter....I'm not TOO sure yet. I need a little bit more info. BoT is great for FoG, but if I don't have assaulter early,, I won't be going to Ludi till 88+. Ludi exp is AMAZING. I'm sure gobies exp is amazing too, but I'm kinda poor. I only have around 15mil, and I didn't even get a Kandine nor an ATT wg yet.

HappyViet
02-02-2007, 01:14 AM
quick question. what is goby?

kazoo
02-02-2007, 02:56 AM
quick question. what is goby?

Some fish like monster in ARD. You summon them by breaking boxes.chestes and like...alot of them pop up, which is why ME is so good, timing is key. Each goby is I belive 1400 exp.

Sketchyx
02-02-2007, 03:43 AM
Well i really thing assaulter is useless early on. The skill is really slow ad you can use sb more effectivly wiht pickpokcet and M.E. Pick waht you like but i dont think assaulater first is a good idea

HappyViet
02-02-2007, 04:01 AM
Some fish like monster in ARD. You summon them by breaking boxes.chestes and like...alot of them pop up, which is why ME is so good, timing is key. Each goby is I belive 1400 exp.

wow... oh wait... is that average or higher for their monster level?

kazoo
02-02-2007, 12:05 PM
Yepp I've decided. Seeing as how Assaulter is only effective on high def monsters, such as MDT, and DT, I think I'll go....Build 3.

1assaulter>18 BoT> 3 CHakra>3Meso Guard>Max Assaulter.

I will only be using Assaulter in the mid 8x's to train in ludi, so why have it early if Savageblow is stronger? I went to FoG yesterday to train, and the spawn is amazing. BoT will work poerfectly there till I can get level 15+ Assaulter, then I'll move on to Ludi.