well i am homeschooled now and i am failing classes after classes and i want to drop out because it's getting me nowhere. how do i convince my father to let me drop out and get a ged, he doesn't understand and hes asian so yeah. he doesn't understand. like it's like he doesn't care if get bad grades and shit because he thinks i'm going to graduate and shit and do good except i wont because he don't understand. ok nvm screw it, it's too hard to explain. well anyways.

how do i tell my dad i want to drop out and get a ged? what would you do if you wanted to drop out and convince your dad you want to get a ged.

i'm 17 and i'm a junior, but i wont be able to make up all the credits so i will be a super senior, i might as well just drop out.

Well for one..

You're signature..

do you really like the, brands?

And about dropping out.. do it and you will most probably regret it.

well i am homeschooled now and i am failing classes after classes and i want to drop out because it's getting me nowhere. how do i convince my father to let me drop out and get a ged, he doesn't understand and hes asian so yeah. he doesn't understand. like it's like he doesn't care if get bad grades and shit because he thinks i'm going to graduate and shit and do good except i wont because he don't understand. ok nvm screw it, it's too hard to explain. well anyways.

how do i tell my dad i want to drop out and get a ged? what would you do if you wanted to drop out and convince your dad you want to get a ged.

i'm 17 and i'm a junior, but i wont be able to make up all the credits so i will be a super senior, i might as well just drop out.

I wouldn't understand either. Firstly, a GED gets you nowhere. Period. You automatically make tens of thousands less than you would with a HighSchool Diploma.

Secondly, I could never tell my dad I wanted to drop out. If I did, you'd suddenly see a sharp fall in the amount of times I post a day.

A very sharp fall.

wow thats kinda like me,yea it sucks but think of it this way the sooner you finish school you will be done and can do anything you want. :p

Its just one year. Besides, senior year is the easiest. I would just finish it or wait till I was 18 and drop out anyways. Hell, in some places you can drop out at 16.

You say you can't do it. Thats bullshit. You don't WANT to do it. Try hard and make an effort, because it is worth it. Trust me. GED sucks btw.

I dunno what's up with people dropping out in High School. I'd kill myself before I dropped out.

I'll second that on the effort post. I knew someone that dropped out to get a GED, you'll only be able to go to community college which is like high school after high school. You will still hate it. You need to just devote yourself to school. You aren't given bad grades you make them. Yeah I sound like a teacher's pet but it's true. I used to skip school all the time and I was getting bad grades, I even failed 8th grade but i turned it around this year. I'm still feeling like shit and wanting to skip but I push myself. Just tell myself I need to do this. I'm also a junior still. And Now I'm keeping an A and B avg.

You can do it, just hang in there and give it all you got. Worry about your social life when you can manage one and school at the same time.

I dunno what's up with people dropping out in High School. I'd kill myself before I dropped out.

I'll second that on the effort post. I knew someone that dropped out to get a GED, you'll only be able to go to community college which is like high school after high school. You will still hate it. You need to just devote yourself to school. You aren't given bad grades you make them. Yeah I sound like a teacher's pet but it's true. I used to skip school all the time and I was getting bad grades, I even failed 8th grade but i turned it around this year. I'm still feeling like shit and wanting to skip but I push myself. Just tell myself I need to do this. I'm also a junior still. And Now I'm keeping an A and B avg.

You can do it, just hang in there and give it all you got. Worry about your social life when you can manage one and school at the same time.

That's pure bull. Sometimes that is not the case. It also has to do with the competence of your teacher.

For instance, my current English teacher has the mind of a twig. We all have ten grades turned in, yet only two appear on our virtual counselors. Apart from that, she's been absent for the most part of every week. I have an F, and I'm pretty damn sure it's not entirely my fault.

Well for one..

You're signature..

do you really like the, brands?

And about dropping out.. do it and you will most probably regret it.

I was wondering the same thing, and if ya don't get a good education partially due to the fact of you wanting to drop out, you can most likely forget about those brands...

Dude, just work hard, I am kinda in the same spot as you, I really gotta pull my weight, especially in math, and I know I gotta work hard. Matter 'fact ta ta OnRPG for now, gotta finish studying for my math test.

Im in grade 12 right now. Just got accepted to the University of Toronto, and I have already been recommended for a medical internship. I figure I have another 18+ years of school.

If I can go another EIGHTEEN years or more of school, without killing myself, you sure as hell can too. Its another 4 years, do it for yourself, if not your dad.

I'm sorry guys, but you are all wrong.
The GED is equivilent to HS diploma, and it can get you even farther.
I have nothing more than a GED, never even ever went to HS. I am now going to one of the top tech schools in Oregon with ONLY my GED.


If Highschool is not working for you, do homeschooling. People each learn different, and a school can only teach in one way. If you can't learn there, you need to find a alternative. Dropping out and teaching yourself is one of them, and don't ever let anyone tell you that you are any less than someone that did graduate from HS. Some of the smartest people in this world never got a HS diploma. Einstein and Thomas Edison are two off the top of my head.

The public school just spreads this propaganda that makes the GED seem like it's less than a HS diploma because they get money out of each student they have(ie: more students, more money).

I'm sorry guys, but you are all wrong.
The GED is equivilent to HS diploma, and it can get you even farther.
I have nothing more than a GED, never even ever went to HS. I am now going to one of the top tech schools in Oregon with ONLY my GED.


If Highschool is not working for you, do homeschooling. People each learn different, and a school can only teach in one way. If you can't learn there, you need to find a alternative. Dropping out and teaching yourself is one of them, and don't ever let anyone tell you that you are any less than someone that did graduate from HS. Some of the smartest people in this world never got a HS diploma. Einstein and Thomas Edison are two off the top of my head.

The public school just spreads this propaganda that makes the GED seem like it's less than a HS diploma because they get money out of each student they have(ie: more students, more money).

Your right to a certain extent. Here in Jacksonville, Florida a GED IS an equivalent to a HS Diploma, however, you won't be accepted into universities. So really you can only go to like tech schools and community colleges. Which really won't get you a really decent paying job. With a HS diploma and getting into a University you can still do a lot more with that than a GED, a GED will just make getting established into a career or into an honored position harder.

Again, incorrect. I don't have the links on hand because I'm not at my home computer, but you can get into any higher education school as long as you meet the requirements.
There are some schools that will require a SAT or ACT score, but that is not at all a highschool diploma equivalent, something that whether you get a diploma or GED, you can(and need) take.

I am enrolled in the local university here with my GED. Not taking any classes because the classes I was going to take filled up, but I am registered as a student.

he doesn't understand and hes asian so yeah. he doesn't understand.

You need to take away games and other useless activities you do. And actually put in effort for your schoolwork and read educational books. If you have trouble in school, stay after school and talk to your teachers. Get tutorials. Take summer school to catch up on credits. That means you'll have to take some fun in your life away for the summer and school year, but its well worth it if you want long lasting fun in the future.

Some of the smartest people in this world never got a HS diploma. Einstein and Thomas Edison are two off the top of my head.


And Bill Gates.

Again, incorrect. I don't have the links on hand because I'm not at my home computer, but you can get into any higher education school as long as you meet the requirements.
There are some schools that will require a SAT or ACT score, but that is not at all a highschool diploma equivalent, something that whether you get a diploma or GED, you can(and need) take.

I am enrolled in the local university here with my GED. Not taking any classes because the classes I was going to take filled up, but I am registered as a student.

That's stupid. It's still detrimental to get a GED though, you cant qualify for any of the scholarships except for GED specified. They probably did this for minorities and poor though. I mean, otherwise if there was no drawback to it, GED graduates have 2 years headstart from those who get their HS diploma.

Anyways, I'll be proud to get my HS diploma. Were you homeschooled, FabianN?

That's pure bull. Sometimes that is not the case. It also has to do with the competence of your teacher.

For instance, my current English teacher has the mind of a twig. We all have ten grades turned in, yet only two appear on our virtual counselors. Apart from that, she's been absent for the most part of every week. I have an F, and I'm pretty damn sure it's not entirely my fault.

This is your problem your letting her get to you, your letting her affect your grades you just have to swallow your pride and learn and ignore the fact that she is a ***** or an *** or what not just learn because if you really wanna do good in that english class you gotta just ignore the fact of her and focus on the knowledge part of it and don't be a goof ball in that one class just really try hard in that class because I know how fun it is to have a sub but you just gotta do it

I wouldn't understand either. Firstly, a GED gets you nowhere. Period. You automatically make tens of thousands less than you would with a HighSchool Diploma.

Secondly, I could never tell my dad I wanted to drop out. If I did, you'd suddenly see a sharp fall in the amount of times I post a day.

A very sharp fall.

Funny you should mention that because both myself and my younger brother didn't graduate and got GED's and we were both accepted into good colleges (I dropped out of highschool and college, but my brother is still in college) and before deciding to join the army I had a REALLY good job that paid well (manager at an internet cafe/computer repair shop).

Just like almost anything else, if you put forth the effort needed to succeed, you will. It counts (I've never been turned down for a job because of it) just as highly as a highschool diploma to most employers and you only have to take a few extra tests when you go to college because of it.

no you guys, i am homeschooled, i'm not even in high school, i got expelled so now i'm homeschooled, and it's not even like homeschool, it's called homebound instruction teaching. a teacher coems to my house 2-3 times a week to drop off homework and leaves, i can't attend any school in my district and outside, i can go to ALC but my dad wont let me, he only wants me to do this until i can go back to regular high school, i already failed 4 classes last quarter because the homebound instruction teaching thing isn't right, and now i'm going to be failing more, all the way until my senior year, i'll be failing a total of maybe around 12 classes or more before i can go to my senior year, i can't make up 12 in time, therefor i will be a super senior, i will spend 2 of my senior year in high school for a high school degree.

plus i want to join the marine corps. i don't want to do any of that other job, i want to be a marine, and yet i need a high school degree or a ged to join the marines.

no you guys, i am homeschooled, i'm not even in high school, i got expelled so now i'm homeschooled, and it's not even like homeschool, it's called homebound instruction teaching. a teacher coems to my house 2-3 times a week to drop off homework and leaves, i can't attend any school in my district and outside, i can go to ALC but my dad wont let me, he only wants me to do this until i can go back to regular high school, i already failed 4 classes last quarter because the homebound instruction teaching thing isn't right, and now i'm going to be failing more, all the way until my senior year, i'll be failing a total of maybe around 12 classes or more before i can go to my senior year, i can't make up 12 in time, therefor i will be a super senior, i will spend 2 of my senior year in high school for a high school degree.

plus i want to join the marine corps. i don't want to do any of that other job, i want to be a marine, and yet i need a high school degree or a ged to join the marines.

Whose fault is all of this? You probably wouldnt be in this shit if you didnt get expelled. I say suck it up and do whatever you think is best for your life. Dont live by how your dad wants you too. If you think you are mature enough to drop out and join the marines then do it already.

i can't, i'm 17

i can't, i'm 17

Then get your GED and wait untill you are 18.

you need your parents permission to get a GED if you're under 18

That's stupid. It's still detrimental to get a GED though, you cant qualify for any of the scholarships except for GED specified. They probably did this for minorities and poor though. I mean, otherwise if there was no drawback to it, GED graduates have 2 years headstart from those who get their HS diploma.

Anyways, I'll be proud to get my HS diploma. Were you homeschooled, FabianN?

no you guys, i am homeschooled, i'm not even in high school, i got expelled so now i'm homeschooled, and it's not even like homeschool, it's called homebound instruction teaching. a teacher coems to my house 2-3 times a week to drop off homework and leaves, i can't attend any school in my district and outside, i can go to ALC but my dad wont let me, he only wants me to do this until i can go back to regular high school, i already failed 4 classes last quarter because the homebound instruction teaching thing isn't right, and now i'm going to be failing more, all the way until my senior year, i'll be failing a total of maybe around 12 classes or more before i can go to my senior year, i can't make up 12 in time, therefor i will be a super senior, i will spend 2 of my senior year in high school for a high school degree.

plus i want to join the marine corps. i don't want to do any of that other job, i want to be a marine, and yet i need a high school degree or a ged to join the marines.
yea, thats not real homeschooling.
I'll tell you my homeschooling experince.
I would wake up about 8-9 and have breakfast. Around 10 I would start my work.
It would consist of things like math, writing, science, ect.
How I would do that is I'd have the book for the math or writing, or what ever, and I would work through it. I would try to do at the least one lesson a day, if the lesson was quick I'd do one more. If I was having a hard or slow time with a lesson and got frustrated with it, I would just stop doing it for the day.
I would be doing this until about 1. And then my school was done.
If I had problems I'd go to my mom or dad if they could help, and if they couldn't, I'd look it up on the net.
And I'd just work through basic high school subjects, and what ever else I was interested.


It was a mix if unschooling with a basic curriculum.


That's stupid. It's still detrimental to get a GED though, you cant qualify for any of the scholarships except for GED specified. They probably did this for minorities and poor though. I mean, otherwise if there was no drawback to it, GED graduates have 2 years headstart from those who get their HS diploma.

Anyways, I'll be proud to get my HS diploma. Were you homeschooled, FabianN?
I don't understand how it's stupid... What should be important is that someone knows the info, not where or how they know it.
And you are wrong about scholarships. There are millions of scholarships that one with a GED can apply for. Yea, there are some that the sign-up form requires some information that you only have if you are in highschool, but you'd be amazed how far you can get just by talking to the right people.
Contact the people that are in charge and tell them of your situation. Unless it's something specific for a school only, most will tell you how else you can apply for a scholarship.

And GED'rs don't have a head start or anything. It's a test, and you got to pass it to get it, and it's not as easy as everyone says. Each time the GED is revised(happens about every 4 years) they need to test it against a wide range of high school graduates. The revised GED test will only be accepted if 40% of all test takers(highschool graduates) fail it.
Yea, some people may learn the stuff quicker than most and get done early, but why should they sit in class wasting their time not learning anything?(something that my friend was having trouble with and he recently dropped out)

And yea I was home schooled. Was pulled out at the start of 7th grade, so I never went to a highschool.

I suggest you start looking up homeschooling resources and start gathering facts. Slowly start informing your parents about this with little interesting facts and such, and then when you feel the time is right, pop the question.
Oh, and looking for resources, just thought I'd tell you, but there are quite a bit of christian homeschooling sites that are a bit... extreme("science is the devils magic!" kind of extreme). Don't know if thats your thing or not, but just so you know so that you don't come across one and get a little shock or what ever.
Here are some very basic resources:
http://eho.org/
http://school.familyeducation.com/home-schooling/educational-philosophy/34545.html
http://homeschoolcentral.com/
http://www.wikihow.com/Homeschool-Your-Children
http://www.homeschool.com/
http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/directory/Beginning.htm


And also, make sure to mention that a real homeschooler(ie: someone that teaches him/herself) has a much easier time getting into a college or university then those that went through normal highschool.

The reason for this is:
1: Those schools like to have a verity of students. It's easy to get students that went through high school. But home schoolers? Those aren't as common and are very unique, something that colleges and university's look for.
2: A home schooler is self sefficiant. What that means is that they don't rely on a teacher to tell them what to do. This is very much how the college and university's work. To get a student thats already good with that form of learning is extremely valuable to them. High schoolers all have teachers to tell them what to do. If you miss a class, you get bugged. Miss homework? Get told, ect ect. Every mess up you make, you are told that you messed up. College? Miss a class and there will be a mark if the tech takes attendance, but s/he won't say anything about it unless it's something extreme(50% of classes missed). Don't turn in homework? You simply get a zero.
It's up to you to make sure you are on the ball, not the teacher. Many high schoolers have trouble making this adjustment, and that can sometimes cost a school and it's teachers valuable time and money, something that they would rather not lose.


Hope that helps a bit.

fabian, fabian, do you think i can do homeschooling if i am expelled from all public schools in and out of my district except for the alc's outside of my district?

fabian, fabian, do you think i can do homeschooling if i am expelled from all public schools in and out of my district except for the alc's outside of my district?
Short answer: Yes

Long answer:
I am not even registered with the school system. The government's education board in Oregon does not know of my exsistance. Now the exact details varys from state to state, some will require you to take a little test every two or three years to make sure that you are learning, but other than that the government has no part in your school

Your parents are probably just worried you might stab your new teacher. xD

Just one thing, just because thomas edison and einstein and such dropped out of high school doesn't mean you have to :p.

Homeschooling works well if you know what the usual high school curriculum is and if work ahead of it. Otherwise you fall behind.

Whose fault is all of this? You probably wouldnt be in this shit if you didnt get expelled. I say suck it up and do whatever you think is best for your life. Dont live by how your dad wants you too. If you think you are mature enough to drop out and join the marines then do it already.


LMFAO!!! Anyways ya just do wat u want screw your dad just Do wat u fink is right

Just one thing, just because thomas edison and einstein and such dropped out of high school doesn't mean you have to :p.


Not to mention Einstein has an estimated IQ of 160. You? I don't think so. :rolleyes:

Just one thing, just because thomas edison and einstein and such dropped out of high school doesn't mean you have to :p.

Homeschooling works well if you know what the usual high school curriculum is and if work ahead of it. Otherwise you fall behind.
You are correct that it's not the reason to start. It's just showing that you don't become a idiot when homeschooled.

As for your secound statement, not true.
First, there is no "falling being" that could ever even happen. You are in school with yourself. You simply work at it till you get it. If it takes twice as long as normally, who cares. It's important to understand it, not to just get the work done.
As for a curriculum, not needed. Look up unschooling.

how the hell did you manage to get expelled from so many schools?

I dropped out. Now (after several months jobless) I'm working 5 hours a day for 7.50$ an hour dressing up as Uncle Sam for a tax place handing out fliers and greeting people.

As if that isn't uh...pathetic, here's the killer: The majority of the money I'm making is going towards these classes I'm taking to get my diploma (because only after leaving my free education I realize I needed it)

Though school truly is bullshit, the fact remains that in this world, your worth is dictated by pieces of paper. Diplomas/Degrees= Dollars and the more you have the better off you are.

DON'T ****ING DROP OUT!
Being a super senior is better then getting a GED. If you want to get into college and have a better time making higher wages and having a "better" life I suggest staying in school for that extra year. Especially if you are being home schooled, then you can allow yourself to go at your own pace. I have far to many friends who dropped out of highschool to get a GED and well, they are all failing at life miserably. Working at Dominoes or Target for 20 hours a week because the companies don't want them working full time. Trying to survive with 2 other room mates, always hurting to survive. It's not good at all.

DON'T ****ING DROP OUT!
Being a super senior is better then getting a GED. If you want to get into college and have a better time making higher wages and having a "better" life I suggest staying in school for that extra year. Especially if you are being home schooled, then you can allow yourself to go at your own pace. I have far to many friends who dropped out of highschool to get a GED and well, they are all failing at life miserably. Working at Dominoes or Target for 20 hours a week because the companies don't want them working full time. Trying to survive with 2 other room mates, always hurting to survive. It's not good at all.

heh, i earn peanuts with what im doing, and im perfectly happy.. money cant buy happiness. unless of course you're homeless and need expensive surgery for a brain tumor.. then im pretty sure it would

Go ahead, drop out of school and get a GED. Therefore when you ask me for a job i can pay u less. XD

But money sure as hell helps. I don't think people who are in a apartment are as happy as those who can make their wifes happy and their families happy in a 4 room house. I do not say this because they are poor. But they can make their family happy, which when you become older is what you live for. There are a few parents I know who cannot get their family everything they want, and they actually hurt.
I am in no way saying that those who have less money cannot be the happiest, because movies try and prove that over and over.

I think public school gives you a lot more than homeschooling, and i'm not talking about education, i'm talking about socially. I mean when your homeschooled its not like you can go study with your friends, or ask them for help really. It's just you and whoever your homeschool teacher may be.

Also when being homeschooled you just have the one teacher, there is no need to learn to adapt to other teaching styles or to more or less homework. In my opinion public school forces you to accept change and adapt to it in order to advance. Of course some people can do just fine without having gone to public, like Fabian, but Fabian is a nutcase and therefor does not count XD

I think public school gives you a lot more than homeschooling, and i'm not talking about education, i'm talking about socially. I mean when your homeschooled its not like you can go study with your friends, or ask them for help really. It's just you and whoever your homeschool teacher may be.

Also when being homeschooled you just have the one teacher, there is no need to learn to adapt to other teaching styles or to more or less homework. In my opinion public school forces you to accept change and adapt to it in order to advance. Of course some people can do just fine without having gone to public, like Fabian, but Fabian is a nutcase and therefor does not count XD

well, take deathend for example. fully homeschooled, no social life what so ever.. he turned out fine didnt he? >_>

But money sure as hell helps. I don't think people who are in a apartment are as happy as those who can make their wifes happy and their families happy in a 4 room house. I do not say this because they are poor. But they can make their family happy, which when you become older is what you live for. There are a few parents I know who cannot get their family everything they want, and they actually hurt.
I am in no way saying that those who have less money cannot be the happiest, because movies try and prove that over and over.

or i could just marry some hippie chick who likes to live in trees, either ways good.

I think public school gives you a lot more than homeschooling, and i'm not talking about education, i'm talking about socially. I mean when your homeschooled its not like you can go study with your friends, or ask them for help really. It's just you and whoever your homeschool teacher may be.

Also when being homeschooled you just have the one teacher, there is no need to learn to adapt to other teaching styles or to more or less homework. In my opinion public school forces you to accept change and adapt to it in order to advance. Of course some people can do just fine without having gone to public, like Fabian, but Fabian is a nutcase and therefor does not count XD

I have to agree, with most people learning to change for every teacher is a pretty important thing. When you are always changing to adapt to other teachers, you learn from a range of teaching styles, instead of just one style, one method. There's more variety, it's more like how it's different.. if your one homeschool teacher changes, you might find it more difficult to adapt to the new teacher, where other public school kids are probably just like "Alright.."

I have nothing to say about dropping out of high school, cause I'm not even in high school! :D So basically, you have to follow what you think, if you think you want to be in the marine army, go for it. Nobody's gonna stop you, if you have to wait that extra year till you can drop out, do it. It's your life, and you tell yourself what to do.

About money. Money is not the biggest concern of life, I know this family their rich as hell.. filthy rich, 5 generations of making tons and ton sof money. They have 3 kids, 2 sons who are engineers and 1 daughter. Both the sons are in 3rd world countries, building houses. And the parents are retired. The one daughter is a mentally challenged adult. With all the money, it doesn't make the family anymore content, considering that daughter is mentally challenged and she's also going through some mentally diseases. However, money cannot heal the disease. It doesn't matter how much money you have, there's always something on top of money that will stop you from being the happiest person in the entire world.

Haha here's a quote for you.. xD It's my personal message on MSN right now.

"The only one who can tell you 'you can't' is you. And you don't have to listen."
-Nike

Very inspirational, in my opinion.. hopefully it helps you...=)

I have to agree, with most people learning to change for every teacher is a pretty important thing. When you are always changing to adapt to other teachers, you learn from a range of teaching styles, instead of just one style, one method. There's more variety, it's more like how it's different.. if your one homeschool teacher changes, you might find it more difficult to adapt to the new teacher, where other public school kids are probably just like "Alright.."

I have nothing to say about dropping out of high school, cause I'm not even in high school! :D So basically, you have to follow what you think, if you think you want to be in the marine army, go for it. Nobody's gonna stop you, if you have to wait that extra year till you can drop out, do it. It's your life, and you tell yourself what to do.

About money. Money is not the biggest concern of life, I know this family their rich as hell.. filthy rich, 5 generations of making tons and ton sof money. They have 3 kids, 2 sons who are engineers and 1 daughter. Both the sons are in 3rd world countries, building houses. And the parents are retired. The one daughter is a mentally challenged adult. With all the money, it doesn't make the family anymore content, considering that daughter is mentally challenged and she's also going through some mentally diseases. However, money cannot heal the disease. It doesn't matter how much money you have, there's always something on top of money that will stop you from being the happiest person in the entire world.

Haha here's a quote for you.. xD It's my personal message on MSN right now.

"The only one who can tell you 'you can't' is you. And you don't have to listen."
-Nike

Very inspirational, in my opinion.. hopefully it helps you...=)

dude i dont think Nike's new advertising slogan applies to this lol

Not 'dude' it does.

Right now we're talking about him dropping out.. okay? So he's saying he's going to fail.. when he's just THINKING he will.. so really, it does apply. When you are being yourself and thinking that you cannot do something, you are the reason you cannot. If you have the mentality that says "I can do it" you will be able to do it, it may take longer than others, more effort.. but in the end you can.

Everything you do is in your own mind. When you tell yourself, "I want to drop out because I'm going to fail" that is the reason you fail, and why you want to drop out. Because you are telling yourself that you will fail, in result you will REALLY fail.

Why don't you state the reasons why you think it doesn't apply now?

Thing is, if you drop out of highschool, it may be a little bit harder at first, but in the end it will be alot more rewarding. You just got to get over that first hump.

For every person that has failed with homeschooling, I could show you two or three that are as sucsesful, if not more, than those in regular school.
And as for your job, it depends on your area and what other type of work experince you have done.
I have only held one real job in my life time. It was at cuircuit city working as a PC technichian. Thats not something that you'd see handed out to dim-wits or those that they thought were not educated.
That was my first job. My one and only reference was working at the local computer recycling place, and my GED. Next to the management positions, it was one of the highest paying jobs in the store.
So what kind of job you get depends more on how much effort you put toward getting it in the first place.
I mean, I didn't just get this job over night either. I must have called the managers about 3 times in a two week piriod about the possibility of a position before they even called me in for a interview.
You got to work hard to get a good job, and sometimes you just don't luck out. Life's like that.

Now, to say that you dropped out and didn't get your GED, that is a completely different story, that is very much like saying you didn't go to school and didn't learn anything to most people. But the GED is by law required to be viewed as a Highschool diploma equivilent when taken in matters of a job, college(but a college can ask for others stuff, like a SAT from both partys), ect.

This may come as a shock for a lot of you, but highschool is mostly bullshit and a waste of time, and there are millions that have gone through it that agree, hundreds that I know myself.
Public school was created for the soul purpose to create factory workers, people that did the same task over and over again, without questioning the upper athority. And the way publics schools work have not changed at all since it's creation. The same techniques are used. It's nothing more than a factory pumping out blue widgets. The problem with this is that, not everyone is a blue widget. We are all different, each and every one of us. To be something that we are not goes against our very human nature, and that takes a great toll on our body and mind.

Now I've been trying to find this book that explains this very well, and if I find it I will post it, but public school is feeding us a pre-chewed, bland education, keeping us busy with "busy work" that doesn't add anything to our education.


As for the social aspect, it's only a problem if you are lazy and don't leave your house. How do you think kids made friends before there was public school? They went out and made them.


In our time everything is given to us. We don't need to get up get it. It's right there for us to take. We have become a lazy socity and that can be seen in all aspects of us.


And learning in different ways from how school teaches has nothing to do with accepting change. All you will get is a student that will have learned nothing. It is a intergrated part of our thinking. To change that is like changing who you are completely, to become a competely new person, with a new name and new past and new identity.


And of course you guys are all missing the point of what Magnific is asking. That is on part because he used the wrong words.
What he is doing is not dropping out. He is already out of school, being privetly totterd(poorly, but thats still what his current method of learning is)
Now, he is learning absolutly nothing. Zero, zilch, nada. It's just not working out. He would like to take control of his education, teach himself, and get his GED(which is the only option to homeschoolers and many privately totored)
From what I understand from him, this would be the best option.
What you guys are asking him to do is go back to something that from the sounds of it didn't work out so well for him. He will graduate with poor marks, have a hard time getting into college, and even finding a job. It's not cause he's dumb, but because he learned differently. When Thomas Edison was in public school he was deamed a "special kid" and diagnosed with ADD. He went into those "special" classes where they teach shit to you. His mom took him out of school and started teaching him herself, and look at what he has done.
This was all because he simply learned in a different manner than most, and could not intergrate into a normal class. Because of that, he was thought of as dumb and stupid. The truth is, he wasn't. He was simply differnt and handled information in a way that we didn't.


Now, by no means am I saying that everyone should drop out and homeschool. As I keep saying, each person is different. Somethings may work for some people, and others for others. You just got to find what works best for you.

And you'd be amazed how many people in history that we look on as great people were homeschooled.
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/notable.htm
http://www.christianhomeschoolers.com/hs_famous_homeschoolers.html

Not 'dude' it does.

Right now we're talking about him dropping out.. okay? So he's saying he's going to fail.. when he's just THINKING he will.. so really, it does apply. When you are being yourself and thinking that you cannot do something, you are the reason you cannot. If you have the mentality that says "I can do it" you will be able to do it, it may take longer than others, more effort.. but in the end you can.

Everything you do is in your own mind. When you tell yourself, "I want to drop out because I'm going to fail" that is the reason you fail, and why you want to drop out. Because you are telling yourself that you will fail, in result you will REALLY fail.

Why don't you state the reasons why you think it doesn't apply now?

its trademarked by Nike as an advertisment for shoes..
also, when it comes down to it, its his life he needs to just do what he thinks is right.. and if he really thinks dropping out is going to help him out, then by all means he can do it

plenty of people drop out and still end up doing well, theres HEAPS of other oportunities out there. he could move to Sydney and open a fish and chip shop like everyone else..

its trademarked by Nike as an advertisment for shoes..
also, when it comes down to it, its his life he needs to just do what he thinks is right.. and if he really thinks dropping out is going to help him out, then by all means he can do it

plenty of people drop out and still end up doing well, theres HEAPS of other oportunities out there. he could move to Sydney and open a fish and chip shop like everyone else..

I'm getting the idea from your first statement that you think whatever a shoe company says, has to involve shoes? Correct or incorrect.. that's what I get from what you said.

I know what you mean by when he thinks dropping out is going to help, and I completely agree with it.. I'm just pointing out how he says that he's failing and he thinks he's going to fail everything else. That's incorrect. How Nike's quote comes in, is because what he thinks, is exactly why he is failing. Sine he cannot drop out yet, why not just put some effort into it and stop telling yourself you can't.. because you can.

A lot of people drop out, he's going to drop out because he wants to be in the marine, which is completely understandable. My only point is..

Stop telling yourself you can't, because you can..

That's how Nike's quote comes in..

"The only one who can tell you 'you can't' is you. And you don't have to listen."
-Nike

He's telling himself he can't do it.. when actually he probably can.. it's about what you're thinking, and what you're forcing into your mind..
For example, if you tell yourself, you cannot climb the mountain, you will not. You are obviously not thinking positively at all.. and the way you're telling yourself "YOU CAN'T" that's why you can't.

In reality, nobody's going to be able to trust you, if you cannot trust yourself in the first place.

Your 16? Cant you do that without permission. Im pretty sure they dont have a say in it.

thanks for your guyses help, i talked to my teacher, he said that i don't worry about the F's because i don't really get the F's because the teacher is still grading my work and i have some work to do still that's from that quarter. he said that if i continue to do this work like i am, i will graduate on time and i will be able to go back to my school in the second quarter of next year because that's when i won't be expelled anymore, so that means i'll graduate on time. thanks a lot for your guyses help, i won't be dropping out and getting a GED. plus when you join the marines with a GED, you need atleast 15 college credits with it. but i could still join the army but i want to join the marines instead. so it's high school all the way. and well i got expelled from stabbing someone if your wondering why, that was a long long tiem ago, i guess it was my fault and i deserved what i got. i got expelled for aggravated assault and weaponry/weaponlike. plus it's not in my criminal record so i'm fine, just my school record.