hey i seen movies with ppl at lvl32 had already over the 200-300 MP but i'm not even close to 100 with my chars and my HP is quite low also (1.4k with light armors) so are there ways to enchant my MP with more mist bars so i could use magic more ?


btw should i lvl all my chars cause Fran, Basch and Penelo are still lvl12 and the rest are lvl27-28 ^^

Actually, I believe that as you get more quickenings, your MP bar increases for that character. Because, Vaan for me has about 230 somethin MP and I have two quickenings for him.

I use Ashe, Vaan, and Balthier all the time - just focus on lvling up your three characters. They kicks *** anyway.

However if you want to use 6 (and therefore use them interchangeably in battles - seriously, this spices up the gameplay a lot!), you can always find ways to easily lvl-up the other 3, like the Negumuur (spelling) auto-lvling. (That's right, auto-lvl up! Sure is magickal!)

Oh and about the MP bar, get all 3 quickenings for the character, and that char will TRIPLE their MP!

tnx :P and i know that Ashe, Vaan and Balthier own cause i owned meteus with no prob in a few round and i didnt use quikenings ^^ 2nd esper WOOT

Yea and do get all the 3 quickenings asap, because this is one thing that I really like about FFXII - You can use magicks almost limitlessly! In other words, you can just attack with magicks alone without worrying about MP running out, because in case of that, the character will just gambit charge (set on the gambit, Self MP > 10% Charge), to well recharge it! :p

Do get all of the tiles on the License Board also that each will reduce your mp cost by 10%. There's 3 tiles if I'm not mistaken, so you can reduce your MP casting cost by 30%, without using any armor, accessories, or anything like that!

That's all - It's just I'm really enjoying thisXD Hopefully this wont be too spoily:3

Oh yeah, on the License Board, there's also tiles that you can get so that you can increase your MP bar over time or over attacking or after killing or get attacked -- those things. In other words, if you killed a monster, your will get some MP, or that if you get attacked, you will also gain MP!

So all these combined, you can cast magicks all the time all the way!:D

well i mastered my magic license board now i was bored XD now busy with weapon license for vaan ^^

o.o What do you guys use Balthier for? His stats are such garbage, nothing seems resonding about him at all T_T

I try to use all 6 chars, but my best combo would be Vaan (red mage), Ashe (white mage), and Penelo (black mage). They pwn up a storm, especially penelo. Elemental weaknesses in this game are crazy; if a group of mobs weak to air runs at me, Penelo just insta-pwns them all in 1 or 2 aero casts <3.

Balthier is actually a gun user you can learn him how to use evry weapon but with gun i have a pure critter and guns ignore defence ^^ so with crits i have always aroudn the 1200 damage with him ^^ and i found the coolest weapon quite early in theg ame o.O" i got deathbringer already and i didnt do judge bergan yet >.> my chars weapons are

Vaan: Deathbringer with ice shield

Ashe: ice brand with ice shield (found it when i was chaining zombies)

Balthier: Bestalgeus with union or silence shot depends what i like better:P

basch: Flametongue and gold shield

Fran : Obelisk spear

Penelo: Serpent staff



lvl36 Vaan, lvl35 Balthier, lvl36 Ashe, lvl12 Basch, lvl30 Fran and lvl13 Penelo


believe me Balthier is good if you know what you can give him :P and is last quikening is 1 of the best i used:3

Last time i clocked it, i just used Vaan, Basch and Fran. I found Balthier's gun attacks too slow and weak, compared to what basch was getting with his sword, not to mention the amount of blocks you get once you get the passive upgrades from the license board. Balthier was doing the same damage as Fran with a bow, and shooting at half the speed. For the whole game, i would just use vaan and basch to attack with swords, and fran use a bow from the back, and just heal regularly. In boss battles she would just end up healing constantly. I just found black magic useless in this final fantasy, didn't do that much damage compared to the normal hits, i just saved my mp for white magic, green and time magic once you get protectga and hastega were good too. Quickenings and summons just never seemed worth spending the mp. Clocked the game at lvl 57 as far as i remember.

Are you kidding Black Mages are useless? My Blizzardga, Firaga, and Thunderga deals atleast 3200's, depending on the enemies' elemental weakness, it can go way up to a massive damage! Not to mention it can hit multiple enemies at once.

My normal attacks with sword is only around 2200-2500's.

balthier has for me the same speed as fran with bow >.> only he's strogner >.> he's almost as fast as Vaan with dagger XD he even loads faster then Vaan when i use sword and shield so you should train balthier more ^^ cuae balthier is 1 of my fastest persons ^^ and guns are usefull later in the game cause in evry FF game the monsters getting tougher with more defence and guns ignore defence :P

btw do any1 know how i can defeat the boss Ahriman ? when he multiplys i don't stand a chance >.< and i'm lvl39 with best equipment for what i can get >.<

Are you kidding Black Mages are useless? My Blizzardga, Firaga, and Thunderga deals atleast 3200's, depending on the enemies' elemental weakness, it can go way up to a massive damage! Not to mention it can hit multiple enemies at once.

My normal attacks with sword is only around 2200-2500's.

But casting time for magics is also longer, so it balances out. What normal attacks lack in power, they make up in speed, and hence frequency of attacks. Magicks got interrupted too many times, and sometimes there's also a delay between when the bar reaches full, and when the character actually casts a magic, because for that time the character just stays in the little concentration pose, if the enemy moves out of range, your character just stands there. You might find it useful, and thats fine, one of the good things about FF12 is that it allows for many play styles. I agree its good if you're swarmed by enemies, but at times you might end up damaging a few, and healing the rest. You could also piss off an elemental. Fast sword attacks with the occasional combos seemed to be the most useful for me. Basch was the best for me, highest damaging hits. Fran had good magic, and was useful in boss fights because she basically stayed out of the way, hitting from range, and healing when need be.

I always caste Haste all the time (using gambit ofcourse), so the time to cast magicks isn't slow at all - it's actually really fast.

When my chars see the enemies in a far/within the range, my chars immediately cast magicks and even before the enemies were able to approach my char and actually attack, they've tasted the magicks. XD

The difference in damage dealt between magicks and normal attack is quite big too - we're talking about 1500's. My normal attack with sword is actually around 2000's and with magicks is actually around 3500...depending on the enemies though. I just played again couple hours ago.

What is your normal attack and magick damages? Just curious.

Vaan - used usually daggers and shields(he was my main char in the end i gave him Masamune)
Balthier - used Guns till the end
Fran - Used bow till the end
Basch - used sword and shield about the half game and then swicthed to axe and shield (did sum nice damages)
Penelo - used staffs till the end
Ashe - used katanas
Im fond with katanas, they should have some skills like 2 handed fighting 2 katanas owww i would love that. But a Great game. I mainly used Vaan, Basch and Fran(Penelo it depended of the upcoming boss)

lol you can better use Vaan with swords ^^ if you play it right you can have stone blade or Deathbringer earlier in the game ^^ i had 3 ice brands quite early before they even couldve been bought ^^ and i finnaly did ahriman i didnt had enough remedies so i ended up using a large quikening combo of 21 hits ^^ instant kill :P

The max quickening combo was 38 :P I was very lucky cuz i was always able to use one quickening

What is your normal attack and magick damages? Just curious.

I checked for you, all my characters are lvl 57, both vaan and basch have same sword and armors, except for the chest piece, vaan has a better chest piece which increases his strength among other stats. These damages are from hitting lvl 8 wolves in dalmasca westersand. Fran has magic robes.

Vaan's average damage with normal attack: 4700
Basch's average damage with normal attack: 4500

Fran's bow damage:2200
Fran casting Flare with bow: 6200 (on average)
I then went and bought the best rod i could (from the same place i bought her bow)
Fran casting Flare with rod: 7300 (on average)

Now i would consider the rod damage substantial, but the time it takes for her to cast flare, and then the actual flare animation that takes place before the enemy is even damaged, isn't worth it, vaan and basch could attack twice in that time period. Sure haste makes it fast, but haste also speeds up normal attacks, so it ends up the same. Not to mention, flare takes as much mp as Curaja(i think, my memory's a little off). With the older final fantasies, if a spell had a long winded animation, it didn't really effect the fight, because the enemy wouldn't really do anything through the animation. If you prefer to have your black mage, mainly focus on black magic, and give them a rod, i guess thats fine. I prefer to have fran as my main healer, and vaan heal now and then, so spending massive amounts of mp on black magic doesn't seem worth it for me when i can do the same, or more damage with physical attacks in the same time period seeing as sword attacks are almost instant and you get occasional 3+ hit combos. I prefer to preserve the mp, specially with the late bosses, they'll become invulnerable to physical aswell as magic damage for a time. You better be ready to tank and heal for a while.

i stay with physical damage ^^ more fun and magic more load time i dont like it >.> my chars already attacked 3 times without haste before the spell is done loading

I stayed also Physical, but when was fighting the strongest esper i had to use alot of magic. So get good spell cuz u will need them.

Adramenlech (or whats he's called) just use slow on him ^^ he will sick big time after he is slowed ^^ and just use floar, protect, shell and haste on yourself ^^ i berserked my Balthier when his MP was down (yea yea i know charge but it's better to use Berserk ^^) he was hitting soon 1500-2100 (i aren't that far in the game yet i still must go to 1st encounter with CID XD i was just bored and gone to the cave to train and found him with luck XD)


Vaan always hits 1600+ for me without berserk also so that doesnt really matter :P

Adramenlech- I love this esper. This esper has something that the other espers dont have. Maybe uts because i love Dragons, but he looks uber cool.
I killed him with a quickening combo. Battle start->Quickening-> Victory

lol you sound like a friend of mine he loves dragons XD he gone to eragon 20 times in the cinema only to see that dragoon -_-"

i actually defeat with physical attacks and buffs :P always when i'm curtain that i can't win i just use quikenings ^^ to bad that ahriman had to lose 10k HP 1st before i could instant kill him with quikening >.> i wonder when i can get bravery :P i heard its usefull ^^ never heard of it in any other Final fantasy also O.O

I didnt use bravery. My opinion "it sucks". But yeah if u want some damage more then go ahead :P im a man who needs real power.

i'm currently finding another optionel esper XD hard to find those >.> i just got lucky in the Zartanian caves cause i just was colelcting materials and getting some lvls :P WOOOT i got another Deathslayer (don't have the game on now XD so probably wrong name >.<)