As many of you know, Hidden Villages Online is currently remaking. The name of the remake is Hidden Villages Online Inochi.
The remake will include:
1. 100% New & Original Graphics (Their all copyrighted GFX)
2. A new Engine, more stable, therefore it will not crash.
3. A whole new Gameplay Style.
4. Much much more.. you can find all of the new features in our forum:
http://www.HiddenVillages.co.nr

Here are some previews of the game graphics:

Updated house preview [V2]:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1466/previewnewhousespublicge5.png

Houses Preview:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8705/previewhousespublicpc0.png
Anbu Clothings Preview:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8302/inochianbupreviewpublicbj4.png
People Preview:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1228/newclothespublicfh7.png

If you can help in anyway, including music, sound effects and graphics. Please contact me through PM or email me. You may also add me on MSN if you want, Magdreamer@hotmail.com. Theres also a Application forum with a prepared format in our forum: www.HiddenVillages.co.nr

You really should get a .com or .org and get a real website (suggestion)

Well, i would. But our donation account has recieved 0 cents.

Wheres the client?

In order to launch a game you must pay it yourself. Everyone has to pay money for things domains are only 6 bucks i'm 13 and i can afford one why can't you?

In order to launch a game you must pay it yourself. Everyone has to pay money for things domains are only 6 bucks i'm 13 and i can afford one why can't you?
I agree I am planning on buying a site my self and I am 12 so why can't you afford one?


Also right now we only have forum: http://www.aokforums.com/megadestoryers/index.php?sid=a839c1838c7f5e08c2866d2e45c80e70&mforum=megadestoryersPlease register or you can't post.

I agree I am planning on buying a site my self and I am 12 so why can't you afford one?


Also right now we only have forum: http://www.aokforums.com/megadestoryers/index.php?sid=a839c1838c7f5e08c2866d2e45c80e70&mforum=megadestoryersPlease register or you can't post.

This isn't a place to advertise your forum... and you buy a domain name not a site

Im 13 too, i dont really have a way to pay, and my parents wont let me use my bank account. I'm not such a spoilt brat to disobey them just for that. I'm making the game, so i atleast need people to show some support by donating money.

Well, i would. But our donation account has recieved 0 cents.
Hey put me on the team and i can publish a site :). my mother got it with these CDs i could like make a site i been taking lessons in technology class at school >.< its a like rough but you'll manage

I agree I am planning on buying a site my self and I am 12 so why can't you afford one?


Also right now we only have forum: http://www.aokforums.com/megadestoryers/index.php?sid=a839c1838c7f5e08c2866d2e45c80e70&mforum=megadestoryersPlease register or you can't post.
why buy a site when you make one from a software that cost like um 5.00 with
Photoshop inlcuded(6.1 ya i know im cheap)

why buy a site when you make one from a software that cost like um 5.00 with
Photoshop inlcuded(6.1 ya i know im cheap)

Don't be stupid...he means a domain name. And i can make a site for free..its called HTML and CSS

Im 13 too, i dont really have a way to pay, and my parents wont let me use my bank account. I'm not such a spoilt brat to disobey them just for that. I'm making the game, so i atleast need people to show some support by donating money.Go outside ask for a job to cut grass or smoething geez or get a free domain.

free domain.

No such thing exists...

No such thing exists...Yea there is I have ran into 4-5 before never liked one though.

Yea there is I have ran into 4-5 before never liked one though.

Their is no such thing, unless they control the domain

Their is no such thing, unless they control the domainTo true but,well, you right

There is truely no free domains... you always have to do something for it.. like take surveys and stuff like that.

Not to offend you but your GFX skills are pretty good but they got big heads xD

But I like how your making your own graphics which are really great so keep up the good work ^^.

This isn't a place to advertise your forum... and you buy a domain name not a site

1. You can buy a domain name
2. You can hire someone to make a site for you ("buying" a site)
3. You can buy web hosting space

I am capable of giving away free domains, if only i bought the package that allows me to :D but thatd be like 300 a month for me so the free domain idea is a nah ah really someone has to pay XD

Other than this id like to remind all of you who say why cant he buy a domain ?

:hmm: A 13 year old is not expected to be able to buy everything or anything at all, his parents may deny him that priv for many reasons, a value of a dollar is always the one who decided who spends it :-/ what my grandfather always said, i dunno some scot jibbering away:-/

But, remember not everyone lives out of poverty, and or live in a mid welth family, money needs to be earned and asking for help is something you should either show proper Etiquette towards or dont really show anything at all.

Asking or using the phrase (mom and dad to buy this and that) is something to be carefull about and think twice with ones arrogence.

I agree, to get seriouse responces from this you should have domain, and mid website, )))none of this freewebs.com crap((( :-/

I would not expect people to pay you either in donations either.

Heres a tip, people wont give you free money unless they know its going to an actual cause and not a scam -_-

remember this, ((to make money you have to spend money, to make work you got to give work.))

:hmm: A 13 year old is not expected to be able to buy everything or anything at all, his parents may deny him that priv for many reasons, a value of a dollar is always the one who decided who spends it :-/ what my grandfather always said, i dunno some scot jibbering away:-/


You know 13 year old DO have money and I do take in offense that we have to ask our parents for money i have my own money i spend my own money and a 13 year old IS expected to fund everything so do be like that

Dennis56 my whole view of you has changed I initially thought you to be one of those "I go round slamming people" but that last post squished that. I was earning cash at 8 years old I would go to my store and buy a car wash kit which cost me about £5 ($10) and then go was cars for £2.50 each ($5) I would be able to wash about 10 cars with the kit and that got me £25 ($50) per set of kit. I then spent some money on advertising in my area with post sticks in shop windows until a car wash service opened round the corner from me but it was decent and it felt good not to depend on others. If your project is going to go anywhere you need to invest in it, why should others invest in you when you are not willing to?

O and on the "I can't use my bank account note" if it is your money in there why can you not use it, and also you could very easily lie and take the cash out and get a cheque written up and send that off, or even get a friend to do it for you and pay him back in cash. Trying to get something for nothing looks bad no matter what angle you look at it from.

Dennis56 my whole view of you has changed I initially thought you to be one of those "I go round slamming people" but that last post squished that. I was earning cash at 8 years old I would go to my store and buy a car wash kit which cost me about £5 ($10) and then go was cars for £2.50 each ($5) I would be able to wash about 10 cars with the kit and that got me £25 ($50) per set of kit. I then spent some money on advertising in my area with post sticks in shop windows until a car wash service opened round the corner from me but it was decent and it felt good not to depend on others. If your project is going to go anywhere you need to invest in it, why should others invest in you when you are not willing to?

O and on the "I can't use my bank account note" if it is your money in there why can you not use it, and also you could very easily lie and take the cash out and get a cheque written up and send that off, or even get a friend to do it for you and pay him back in cash. Trying to get something for nothing looks bad no matter what angle you look at it from.

The only reason i go "Round slamming people" is because i had to start with nothing at 9 years old doing everything the hard way working off sweat and tears of failure and getting back up, the number of projects i had done and they had failed the number of code i've rewritten the number of times i had learned a better way of doing something that i had know previously. As a 9 year old i had to do that. This is why i hate short cuts and game maker after game maker people think its so easy then their world changes and they quit. People take in loads of shortcuts and don't learn anything for the cuts they have taken people jump straight to the advanced stuff withought bothering to learn the harder version of doing it. I really don't want people to fail i may come down hard but i want everyone to take no shortcuts and work out 1 step at a time and not skipping steps.

Not every kid has money dennis56. Nor can every kid gain money, the fact you can gain money is something thats suited to your own personal growth, what you can do should not be expected by everyone else. Many, many, many kids live by there parents intuition, and by there parents words of say. By this I mean that lots of kids dont have access to many of the things you may be able to get and the many things that you may be able to achieve on your own.

I nver said 13 year olds dont have money, but the ability to get cash is sometimes unavailable, this can be for plenty of reasons, i would take offense to someone who said i have to get everything from a mother and father to, i would definetly and i dont expect no offense to be taken, but if you go around slamming other people because of what you know you can do in expectation of others, than no one can achieve anything.

Everyone has boundries and limits that they can not pass, and in this case, the person who posted this thread doesnt have the full means to get access of money, and knowledge as easily as you might be able to.

Not every kid has money dennis56. Nor can every kid gain money, the fact you can gain money is something thats suited to your own personal growth, what you can do should not be expected by everyone else. Many, many, many kids live by there parents intuition, and by there parents words of say. By this I mean that lots of kids dont have access to many of the things you may be able to get and the many things that you may be able to achieve on your own.

I nver said 13 year olds dont have money, but the ability to get cash is sometimes unavailable, this can be for plenty of reasons, i would take offense to someone who said i have to get everything from a mother and father to, i would definetly and i dont expect no offense to be taken, but if you go around slamming other people because of what you know you can do in expectation of others, than no one can achieve anything.

Everyone has boundaries and limits that they can not pass, and in this case, the person who posted this thread doesnt have the full means to get access of money, and knowledge as easily as you might be able to.

If they cannot get money nor have it they should not be project leaders just mere developers, or find an investor however doing so you would need a way to make money

Another option is hiring a "Project Manager" or "Manager" a person who organizes and makes up all the features of the game and every aspect, in return for total project control he funds the entire thing. This is very much like and investor however an Investor earns a profit from ads and Manager doesn't

Go outside ask for a job to cut grass or smoething geez or get a free domain.

In singapore, where i live, if you hire a child to do any work at all and their under 16, you get arrested for child labour, and nobody here has lawns, we live in tall buildings and each person owns a small part of it.

There is truely no free domains... you always have to do something for it.. like take surveys and stuff like that.

Not to offend you but your GFX skills are pretty good but they got big heads xD

But I like how your making your own graphics which are really great so keep up the good work ^^.

Thanks.

You know 13 year old DO have money and I do take in offense that we have to ask our parents for money i have my own money i spend my own money and a 13 year old IS expected to fund everything so do be like that

I have cash lots of it, just not any in paypal and i cant transfer cos im not allowed to access my bank account. My parents dont let me. which answers this from silentsiren:

O and on the "I can't use my bank account note" if it is your money in there why can you not use it, and also you could very easily lie and take the cash out and get a cheque written up and send that off, or even get a friend to do it for you and pay him back in cash. Trying to get something for nothing looks bad no matter what angle you look at it from.

The only reason i go "Round slamming people" is because i had to start with nothing at 9 years old doing everything the hard way working off sweat and tears of failure and getting back up, the number of projects i had done and they had failed the number of code i've rewritten the number of times i had learned a better way of doing something that i had know previously. As a 9 year old i had to do that. This is why i hate short cuts and game maker after game maker people think its so easy then their world changes and they quit. People take in loads of shortcuts and don't learn anything for the cuts they have taken people jump straight to the advanced stuff withought bothering to learn the harder version of doing it. I really don't want people to fail i may come down hard but i want everyone to take no shortcuts and work out 1 step at a time and not skipping steps.

You can't look down on me, i started making games with klick & play when i was 6 and started using rm2k and rm2k3 after that when i was around 7 or 8 then i moved on to programming in vb6.

If they cannot get money nor have it they should not be project leaders just mere developers, or find an investor however doing so you would need a way to make money

Another option is hiring a "Project Manager" or "Manager" a person who organizes and makes up all the features of the game and every aspect, in return for total project control he funds the entire thing. This is very much like and investor however an Investor earns a profit from ads and Manager doesn't

I'll consider your section opinion.

**added New House Preview [v2]**

What happened to the good old world of money orders?

Ok to end this little problem. You have a bank account which you are not allowed to draw money out of and you are not allowed to transfer money with. Ok so let us ignore the fact you have a bank account since you have no control on the money inside it so it is not yours in this sense so bank account ignored. Next, are you telling me on your person you have 0 cash, nothing, nada, zilch, not so much as money to buy a chocolate bar? If this is the case I apologise, but if you mean to tell me you have 0 money on your person whatsoever, and yet have access to the internet I am finding that hard to believe, birthdays, christmas, pocket money (I am sure your parents will not go to prison for giving you cash for doing work in the house) etc. So lets say you finally grab together $5 amount that is all you need, now go to a bank and send the money to which ever web host you choose to go with problem solved, paypal is not the only way to pay for things online, heck, send me the $5 via the bank and Ill get the website for you.

However, if you really are broke, poor, nothing, pennyless, rag tagged as you appear to make out I will offer you one thing for free:
Ill give you a subdomain of our parent company/organisation www.bloodonbinary.com, this way you get the power of a proper website, scripts, and such without forking out cash, I offered you this at the start of the year but we were transferring a lot of things and lost track of your request. In fact I offer that to anyone on this board, but with 3 requirements:
1. Project must be active and progressing
2. Some form of link back to the head website I don't know something like in the meta tag and footer
3. Understand that any illegal activity on such will get you raped quicker than god knows what

Ok to end this little problem. You have a bank account which you are not allowed to draw money out of and you are not allowed to transfer money with. Ok so let us ignore the fact you have a bank account since you have no control on the money inside it so it is not yours in this sense so bank account ignored. Next, are you telling me on your person you have 0 cash, nothing, nada, zilch, not so much as money to buy a chocolate bar? If this is the case I apologise, but if you mean to tell me you have 0 money on your person whatsoever, and yet have access to the internet I am finding that hard to believe, birthdays, christmas, pocket money (I am sure your parents will not go to prison for giving you cash for doing work in the house) etc. So lets say you finally grab together $5 amount that is all you need, now go to a bank and send the money to which ever web host you choose to go with problem solved, paypal is not the only way to pay for things online, heck, send me the $5 via the bank and Ill get the website for you.

However, if you really are broke, poor, nothing, pennyless, rag tagged as you appear to make out I will offer you one thing for free:
Ill give you a subdomain of our parent company/organisation www.bloodonbinary.com, this way you get the power of a proper website, scripts, and such without forking out cash, I offered you this at the start of the year but we were transferring a lot of things and lost track of your request. In fact I offer that to anyone on this board, but with 3 requirements:
1. Project must be active and progressing
2. Some form of link back to the head website I don't know something like in the meta tag and footer
3. Understand that any illegal activity on such will get you raped quicker than god knows what

Well, actually, i don't really have as much rights as you guys in the US and England, I do have lots of cash in my wallet, but without consent i cant really do much, i just got a new handphone so im under their mercy now.

No thanks about the website, i got lotsa people hosting subdomains like www.hvo.kazzii.com but I stopped using it and moved back to our old invisionfree forum because they were using sitegrounds.com which since last november crashes and comes back online every 5 mins and a couple more.

I'll search for a sponsor in future.

Also, i remember a certain guy who owned escalation-online who had a black dude on his msn and had silent.siren on his msn nick sometimes with an offer i accepted for his sponsorship, for a domain name and webhosting. This never happened. Ou and that guy had and has an email and is online right now it was.. hmm.. taconline@msn.com

We get off-topic really easily here... but, anyway...

Magdreamer, on your forum I suggest not using imageshack for images.

We get off-topic really easily here... but, anyway...

Magdreamer, on your forum I suggest not using imageshack for images.

Why would you not suggest imageshack?

Well, actually, i don't really have as much rights as you guys in the US and England, I do have lots of cash in my wallet, but without consent i cant really do much, i just got a new handphone so im under their mercy now.

No thanks about the website, i got lotsa people hosting subdomains like www.hvo.kazzii.com but I stopped using it and moved back to our old invisionfree forum because they were using sitegrounds.com which since last november crashes and comes back online every 5 mins and a couple more.

I'll search for a sponsor in future.

Also, i remember a certain guy who owned escalation-online who had a black dude on his msn and had silent.siren on his msn nick sometimes with an offer i accepted for his sponsorship, for a domain name and webhosting. This never happened. Ou and that guy had and has an email and is online right now it was.. hmm.. taconline@msn.com

1. You know that SilentSiren is me
2. You know I own both sites BloodonBinary and Escalation
3. Giving out my msn name and personal description I cant think why
4. I revoked the offer as I explained on MSN because I saw you with at least 2 different projects names one being a web based php game that was never finished or progressed much from the original source script it was taken from.
5. Cheap Servers go down every 5 minutes try doing a search on Cirtexhosting the servers we use.

Anywho just felt slightly odd why such a response would come from you, you try to help people and they act like you, I would rather not waste my time with you.

I don't like fighting, so whatever you just said in that post (which i didnt finish reading) I agree. kk cya.

Why would you not suggest imageshack?

This is what happens when you host images on your own web space. Let's say your website is omgomglol.com.

1. Your computer makes a request to display the page (index.html, index.php, home.html, etc.).
2. Once your computer reaches <img> (or <object>, or anything of the sort), it looks for the source (The "src"). Let's say it's hosted at omgomglol.com/images/asdf.gif. Your computer then goes over to that location and displays it on the page. Simple.

This is what happens when you host images on imageshack (Or any other 3rd party provider).

1. Your computer makes a request to display the page (Same as above).
2. When your computer sees <img>, it looks for the source, which is now somewhere at imageshack.com instead of omgomglol.com. That means that your computer would now have to go all the way over to imageshack, request the image, go all the way back to omgomglol.com, and lastly to your computer. Think of it as your house. You get hungry, so you go downstairs, grab a banana, and come back upstairs to eat it. If the bananas are somewhere else (Maybe at your friend's house, maybe your neighbor's), you would have to go downstairs, exit the house, travel to the destination, get the banana, travel back, get in the house, go upstairs, then finally eat it (Though I doubt you would go through that much for a banana :P). Plus, there is always the possibility of imageshack (Or any other 3rd party provider) running out of bandwidth or space. Maybe they could be down. If the image is on your web space and your server crashes or runs out of bandwidth, the image goes down AND your web page with it.

If I had an image or the non-laziness to make an image, it would be better to understand.

Anyway, let's try not get off-topic again, eh? XD

This is what happens when you host images on your own web space. Let's say your website is omgomglol.com.

1. Your computer makes a request to display the page (index.html, index.php, home.html, etc.).
2. Once your computer reaches <img> (or <object>, or anything of the sort), it looks for the source (The "src"). Let's say it's hosted at omgomglol.com/images/asdf.gif. Your computer then goes over to that location and displays it on the page. Simple.

This is what happens when you host images on imageshack (Or any other 3rd party provider).

1. Your computer makes a request to display the page (Same as above).
2. When your computer sees <img>, it looks for the source, which is now somewhere at imageshack.com instead of omgomglol.com. That means that your computer would now have to go all the way over to imageshack, request the image, go all the way back to omgomglol.com, and lastly to your computer. Think of it as your house. You get hungry, so you go downstairs, grab a banana, and come back upstairs to eat it. If the bananas are somewhere else (Maybe at your friend's house, maybe your neighbor's), you would have to go downstairs, exit the house, travel to the destination, get the banana, travel back, get in the house, go upstairs, then finally eat it (Though I doubt you would go through that much for a banana :P). Plus, there is always the possibility of imageshack (Or any other 3rd party provider) running out of bandwidth or space. Maybe they could be down. If the image is on your web space and your server crashes or runs out of bandwidth, the image goes down AND your web page with it.

If I had an image or the non-laziness to make an image, it would be better to understand.

Anyway, let's try not get off-topic again, eh? XD

After this we won't :)
Your computer never goes anywhere. The internet is a pipe you computer sends data through the tube and retrieves and send tit back.

Also using imageshack allows you to save bandwidth and imageshack has hundreds of servers so i would think it is more reliable than your site.

You can't host images for invisionfree forums on the invisionfree server, so i have to use a "3rd party host".

Why is everyone coming down on this kid?

He obviously has money. Most 13 year olds at least have a few dollars on them. I know I do. But the reason he can't purchase a domain name is because he has no means of paying for it. If his parents won't send a payment online, then he can't get it.

And Dennis, it's cool that you've been programming since you were 9 and everything, but you made it sound as if it was hell on earth learning at 9. You said you "had" to do everything yourself, but programming isn't something you "have" to do. I could have sworn I just read in another thread that you said you had a relative that was a software engineer or something. :/ I began programming at 10, and learned every language thoroughly. You still have a lot to learn about the languages you say you know. I'm 14 now, and have made a lot of money in profit off of projects. It's nothing to brag about. I'm a minority, I come from very poor neighborhoods, but I'm still here. I don't knock others down for wanting to take short cuts, but I do try to let them know that they probably won't be successful by doing so.

This forum isn't to knock people down, it is to help others.

Why is everyone coming down on this kid?

He obviously has money. Most 13 year olds at least have a few dollars on them. I know I do. But the reason he can't purchase a domain name is because he has no means of paying for it. If his parents won't send a payment online, then he can't get it.

And Dennis, it's cool that you've been programming since you were 9 and everything, but you made it sound as if it was hell on earth learning at 9. You said you "had" to do everything yourself, but programming isn't something you "have" to do. I could have sworn I just read in another thread that you said you had a relative that was a software engineer or something. :/ I began programming at 10, and learned every language thoroughly. You still have a lot to learn about the languages you say you know. I'm 14 now, and have made a lot of money in profit off of projects. It's nothing to brag about. I'm a minority, I come from very poor neighborhoods, but I'm still here. I don't knock others down for wanting to take short cuts, but I do try to let them know that they probably won't be successful by doing so.

This forum isn't to knock people down, it is to help others.

It was hell learning at 9 years old i started with java...trust me..

You can't host images for invisionfree forums on the invisionfree server, so i have to use a "3rd party host".

Actually, I found a way around that. It frustrated me too, PM me. *wink*

@Dennis, I was not talking about the computer, I was talking about the data it transfers. You're right, you could think of the internet as a pipe system, but the data would still have to travel farther. Yes, I know that this data travels at very high speeds, but hey, a little difference can mean a lot in some cases.

P.S. Dennis, I learned JavaScript and C++ at a very young age and it wasn't hell for me. It was only hell for my eyes @_@

Actually, I found a way around that. It frustrated me too, PM me. *wink*

@Dennis, I was not talking about the computer, I was talking about the data it transfers. You're right, you could think of the internet as a pipe system, but the data would still have to travel farther. Yes, I know that this data travels at very high speeds, but hey, a little difference can mean a lot in some cases.

P.S. Dennis, I learned JavaScript and C++ at a very young age and it wasn't hell for me. It was only hell for my eyes @_@

You learned C++ at 9 years old?

You learned C++ at 9 years old?

Actually, 10 or 11 :bleh:

...I think.

Actually, I found a way around that. It frustrated me too, PM me. *wink*

@Dennis, I was not talking about the computer, I was talking about the data it transfers. You're right, you could think of the internet as a pipe system, but the data would still have to travel farther. Yes, I know that this data travels at very high speeds, but hey, a little difference can mean a lot in some cases.

P.S. Dennis, I learned JavaScript and C++ at a very young age and it wasn't hell for me. It was only hell for my eyes @_@

I think you mean by attaching it to posts?

Actually, I found a way around that. It frustrated me too, PM me. *wink*

@Dennis, I was not talking about the computer, I was talking about the data it transfers. You're right, you could think of the internet as a pipe system, but the data would still have to travel farther. Yes, I know that this data travels at very high speeds, but hey, a little difference can mean a lot in some cases.

P.S. Dennis, I learned JavaScript and C++ at a very young age and it wasn't hell for me. It was only hell for my eyes @_@

Actually that's incorrect.

It goes like this.

- You request the page
- Server sends the page
- You request any special files not in the code from the source listed in the code
- Source sends you the file

Wether the source is on the same server as the original page makes no diffirence. The only thing that matters is the distance between your PC and teh server from wich you get the data.

If I'm in europe and the original site is hosted in japan but their images are hosted in europe then I will acces them faster then I would have when they were in japan.

If was in japan then the images would load slower.

But in the end the thing that matters the most is the upload speed of the server and the download speed of your PC.

Seeing as ImageShack has professional servers they'll have a higher upload speed then most home hosted websites.

So unless you have a powerfull server with excellent uploading and downloading speeds there's not much to loose by using ImageShack except that you don't have direct control of the files hosted there.