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cinderboy
04-17-2007, 05:02 PM
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/

Dr. Phil Blames Video Games for Virginia Tech Massacre

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In the wake of yesterday’s horrific shootings at Virginia Tech, gadfly attorney Jack Thompson was not the only one who was quick to place blame on violent video games.

Noted T.V. shrink Dr. Phil McGraw appeared on CNN’s Larry King Live last night to discuss the rampage. During the course of the program, the following exchange took place:

LARRY KING: Why, though - OK, you want to kill someone, you’re crazed, you’re a little nuts, girlfriend drops you, why do you kill innocent people?… Dr. McGraw, are they treatable?

DR. PHIL: Well, Larry, every situation is different… The question really is can we spot them. And the problem is we are programming these people as a society. You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high.

And we’re going to have to start dealing with that. We’re going to have to start addressing those issues and recognizing that the mass murders of tomorrow are the children of today that are being programmed with this massive violence overdose.

Rodenty
04-17-2007, 05:14 PM
Well i think this man is a moron

The man could of been mentaly ill or something ..games arent the cause for everything

Trisomy
04-17-2007, 05:19 PM
Idoits like Dr. Phil cant ****ing admit that phyciatrists like them are doing a shitty job thats why they blame someone that they know the mass media will twist. ****ing morons will belive him because a physciatrist who cant control a normal student yet he blames video games.

GRADE "A" MORON.

Hes blaming videogames because he cant admit that phyciatrists cant solve everything especially not on T.V.

cinderboy
04-17-2007, 05:24 PM
Drug addiction, teen pregnancy, abortions, skipping classes, getting bad grades, lack of communication between family members etc etc ... soon all these will be blamed on video games -_-

Uskae
04-17-2007, 05:27 PM
I honestly can't say I really disagree with Dr.Phil on all levels. In my belief, violence really is a part of our society, we glamorize it, but conversely say "That's not acceptable to do".

The problem with this backwards way of teaching is that not everyone has the mental facilities required to grasp that concept. A cousin of mine who was unfortunately born a little slow and extremely violent grew up playing racing games. When he was about 16, Grand Theft Auto 3 came out and lets face it, when that game dropped you were hard pressed to find anyone who wanted to leave the house. So with nothing better to do, he played the shit out of the game like everyone else. Couple months later, my cousin was a certified carjacker. He'd get arrested, get out, then steal another car. Sounds a lot like GTA, don't it?

If whoever read that article actually tried to figure out where Dr.Phil was coming from rather then jump the gun and get defensive about his precious video games, he'd realize just how (surprisingly) wise Dr. Phil's words are on this issue.

cinderboy
04-17-2007, 05:34 PM
Anyone know of any report saying that the killer was under the influence of a game, or did he played any game before the shooting ? O_o

Uskae
04-17-2007, 05:39 PM
Anyone know of any report saying that the killer was under the influence of a game, or did he played any game before the shooting ? O_o

Obviously no one can find out that information as he's dead now (and currently unidentifiable). I think he killed himself, can't recall.

Smiley
04-17-2007, 05:39 PM
f*ck mr.phil , this man doesn't earn a doctoral grade.
This motha***** just needs more spectators , so he says things about virginia tech , and then everybody listens to him.

A student is mature enough to stay normal when playing games.
And Jack Thompson blames everything on video games.

''The war in Iraq was caused by Iraqi gamers that killed American soldiers in
the game America's Army'' - Jack Thompson

Trisomy
04-17-2007, 05:40 PM
Well if Dr phil is so wise how come there is no mention of violent movies in there. Last time i checked i have seen movies that are more violent than GTA 3.

I'll tell you why its because the T.V. industry is bigger and more respected than the VG industry as a result we see morons like him preaching about small issues that he think he can pick on.

To be honest i dont care if he *****es about videogames. I still wouldnt trust him about anything. Good old common sense solves most things.

cinderboy
04-17-2007, 05:42 PM
Well if Dr phil is so wise how come there is no mention of violent movies in there. Last time i checked i have seen movies that are more violent than GTA 3.


Couldnt agree more~

Onii-San
04-17-2007, 06:29 PM
wait guys...maybe he's right...and we are wrong....


nah:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Cingal
04-17-2007, 06:37 PM
There is too little control over what younger people see, although I doubt it has the ability to make a person go on a 32 people long killing spree and then kill themselves.

Trisomy
04-17-2007, 06:42 PM
23 isnt young. Im sure violence in videogames was the last thing on his mond when he killed people. I mean come on is he a 10 year old whos mind is like mush being influenced by every little stupid thing.

Legacyweapon
04-17-2007, 06:55 PM
Hey when times are dire people will always find a scapegoat. In this case VIDEO GAMES.

Arri
04-17-2007, 07:22 PM
Dr. Phil has a reputation for being an idiot anyway, doesn't he? :p

ncyphe
04-17-2007, 07:25 PM
Why do people blame violent video games on everything???

Because they are afraid of it. Just like decades back when D&D was the big thing to blame, it's the same way with games. They don't understand gameing because they have never bothered to try them out.

They just can't seem to get it in their heads that it's just for fun. Just like people who played D&D where akmost never, if ever, satanists, not all gamers treat violent games as a tool to better prepare themselves to go in a rampage.

Dr. Phil made a coment about games in general, when he was asked about his view on the shooting. The gunman was never prooven to have played any violent video games. For all we know, he could have been playing "Hello Kitty's meow meow Adventure" before he picked up a gun and went on rampage (would explain why he killed himeslf.)

ReGainMadness
04-17-2007, 07:39 PM
There will be a day we can only play hello kitty without paper and the color red.

neothaka
04-17-2007, 07:59 PM
gaming is todays latest form of terrorism ...
why they blame games? it's a cliché 'games derive your social life', 'gaming can cause serious health issues', 'gaming sets people on aggresive mode', 'gaming causes real life violence, similar to the game'

You know what those reasons are?
those are the biased opinions and accusations towards gaming, being used on a handful of incidents.
They haven't been able to prove a direct connection to the violence that was committed and the game that supposedly responsible.

What do they do? they take the first opportunity they get to blame it all on gaming, however, they magically seem to overlook the otherr 5 billion gamers which have never shown any form of violent influence from playing games.

Time to write an 'i hate you-email' to Dr Phil, with kisses from belgium !

Sandman53
04-17-2007, 08:05 PM
Sure Dr. Phill seemed to target video games, but he also mentioned violence on the big screen and how it is glamorized in todays society. So his target his not video games.

He is saying that if you take violent media and mix it with someone who is... pyschotic, well the effects won't be good.

Too me he does make some sense. Since he is not saying that video games are the cause of violence.

And no, thanks to our first amendment right Violent video games will always be there. The only thing the government can do is regulate sales, thats about it.

neothaka
04-17-2007, 08:17 PM
here's an idea to make 'lovely violence', make flowers out of blood particles and make sure all sharp weapons look like they've been soaked in 'girlpower water'

Kn7ghT
04-17-2007, 08:20 PM
Now we have to kill Dr. Phil AND Thompson. ...And I used to like Dr. Phil :(

Danuve
04-17-2007, 09:33 PM
Its abit disgusting how some people use tragedy to push there personal agenda.

Cereal&Milk
04-17-2007, 09:51 PM
Says Doctor Phil...Most notorious serial killer ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofKH1TV5t2Y

ncyphe
04-17-2007, 10:06 PM
Sure Dr. Phill seemed to target video games, but he also mentioned violence on the big screen and how it is glamorized in todays society. So his target his not video games.

He is saying that if you take violent media and mix it with someone who is... pyschotic, well the effects won't be good.

Too me he does make some sense. Since he is not saying that video games are the cause of violence.

And no, thanks to our first amendment right Violent video games will always be there. The only thing the government can do is regulate sales, thats about it.

There is truth there, but it needs be further detailed. The national Government can not interfere with bussiness, unless it interfered with economical or health reasons.

However, it is the states who have the right to regulate sales. They can say who can and can't sell certain things and require others to require licenses aquired by the state. Similar to how guns need a license to sell and adult toys cannot be sold in the same store as childrens toys.

What that Fing senator from Florida is trying to do is get the Florida state gov't and other states to adopt laws which dictates what type fo content is available on the public marketplace, which is a load.

All that should be in place is a fine to stores for not ID'ing peple when they buy M rated games and possible force a reciept to print for a parent stateing that they have read the Rating and understand what is in the game, and put the recipt on file. Several parents are trying to blame the game companies, when it is themselves who should've taken heed to the ESRB label.

marowit
04-17-2007, 11:28 PM
yeah yeah keep it up blame video games...and 100 years ago when there were no games who was to blame for all that stuff?

Cingal
04-17-2007, 11:45 PM
yeah yeah keep it up blame video games...and 100 years ago when there were no games who was to blame for all that stuff?

Board games?

Chess must have gave people this murdering mind-set.

athiestgod
04-17-2007, 11:45 PM
This shit pisses me off. ****ing DR. Phil and his fat *** going around saying completely ignorant shit just to get viewers.

That other dude jack is a ****ing retard and needs to stop his "crusade" against games because he has no reason behind what he says.

I want to take my ball sack and stick it into their mouth and teabag them for all their ****ing douchbaggness

onesbronson
04-17-2007, 11:52 PM
This guy is full of it. All the blame isnt on games, theres gangs, drugs, home lifestyles, stress, and other things that can make someone go out of their minds to kill. He probably hasnt gotten out more to realize that.

cinderboy
04-18-2007, 12:35 AM
Soon, all cinemas will only be screenining comedies and love stories ... -_-

Phil3070
04-18-2007, 12:52 AM
Well he's mentally retarded and fat...

"He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said.

A student who attended Virginia Tech last fall provided obscenity- and violence-laced screenplays that he said Cho wrote as part of a playwriting class they both took. One was about a fight between a stepson and his stepfather, and involved throwing of hammers and attacks with a chainsaw. Another was about students fantasizing about stalking and killing a teacher who sexually molested them.

"When we read Cho's plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of," former classmate Ian McFarlane, now an AOL employee, wrote in a blog posted on an AOL Web site. He said he and other students "were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting

He obviously was insane. Must of had some very hard times with his parents or step parents.

Cereal&Milk
04-18-2007, 12:54 AM
Soon, all cinemas will only be screenining comedies and love stories ... -_-

Also this:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5638/thesimpsonsgonarutardbyox3.jpg

and this:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6893/kittywallpaperor7.jpg

twilightkite
04-18-2007, 01:01 AM
I know that some people shouldnt play certain video games, such as 1-8 year olds, or people who are not in a good mental state, for games can become very influential just as t.v., say that my little bro played GTA, I know for a fact he would think shooting people would be alright and that stealing cars would be easy and have little punishment, also say that a person who had some mental issues played a game or saw a movie that had the main character go all out and shoot innocent people and glorify it in a cool manner and make it seem alright that person may try it and think it was alright and cool. Now see people, i would say, 10 and above would be less influenced for they already know right from wrong. As for this man, he is not justified. From what it sounds like he was just out for blood vengence.

Cingal
04-18-2007, 01:02 AM
Also this:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5638/thesimpsonsgonarutardbyox3.jpg

and this:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6893/kittywallpaperor7.jpg


*Hangs self*

Endless
04-18-2007, 01:18 AM
I think it was someone was bound to blame the Virginia Tech Killing on Video Games and other forms of entertainment. I don't agree, but you'd be surprised how many parents out there do. People seem to think that kids and teens will develop bad habits due to violence in games and movie.

To be honest, I don't think that adults think of kids as having the same level of common sense as they do. They might think that games lead to violence, but the gaming community would beg to differ.Just because we're not as old as the adults doesn't mean that we're stupid. Come on; how many kids do you think would actually play a game like Half-Life and go on a killing spree because "The game was volient". There are always some situations in which violent games might lead to violent behavior, but in almost all those cases, the killer is a bit unbalanced.

It's unfair that people could just blame video games or other forms of violent on entertainment for disasters like this. It's just unfair. That's like saying football leads to violence because you "get to tackle another player", or that soccer leads to violence because "you kick balls".

It's ridiculous.

Phil3070
04-18-2007, 01:22 AM
There is no trace of video game causing this. Read his screen play.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0417071vtech6.html

No matter how corny it is it is still insane and written by one of its kind. Dr.Phil and shove a remote up his ***... and get a life. I bet he's never played a video game in his life...

onesbronson
04-18-2007, 01:39 AM
Lets protest against his fat *** and show him games got nothing to do with this massacre. Y the hell would he even shoot straight to games as the cause in the first place. Soon all M rated games will require IDs to be purchased if this shit stays out for too long. Somebody do something!

Elion
04-18-2007, 02:30 AM
I dont know if anyone else mentioned this obvious point that all these types of violence existed just as well before the appearence of violent video games. The only reason it would have occured any less was because kids 15 years ago didn't have such simple access to guns and weapons like they do now.

Ramstien
04-18-2007, 03:24 AM
There is no proof at all that violent video games causes violence in people.

Jakuza
04-18-2007, 04:35 AM
Man, I actually like Dr.Phil. Why does the *** hole gotta blaim this on video games.

Cereal&Milk
04-18-2007, 04:38 AM
Man, I actually like Dr.Phil. Why does the *** hole gotta blaim this on video games.

I hated him ever since I heard his accent. And he's blaming it on video games because someone else did it first. Fat follower.

Salyne
04-18-2007, 04:42 AM
Video games became an easy target in our days.

Houjun
04-18-2007, 04:56 AM
I agree that's pretty stupid to blame video games.

Croix
04-18-2007, 06:03 AM
How this self proclaimed jackass of a "doctor" translates violence directly into video-games is beyond me.

There are so many factors that apply to something this broad in todays society that pinning it on something like video-games is just stupid.

Dr.Phil, please go back to writing your diet books. Leave the intelligent thinking for people who actually have a slight clue as to what they are talking about. Thanks.

Lord Mog
04-18-2007, 06:43 AM
How this self proclaimed jackass of a "doctor" translates violence directly into video-games is beyond me.

There are so many factors that apply to something this broad in todays society that pinning it on something like video-games is just stupid.

Dr.Phil, please go back to writing your diet books. Leave the intelligent thinking for people who actually have a slight clue as to what they are talking about. Thanks.

Amen.

It's just been confirmed that the guy who committed the massacre was on Anti-Depressants and also (I believe) had psychiatric care.

Dr. Phil and Jack Thompson: Shut up for a minute and smell the roses, making up fake things like you two do is not going to help anything.

cinderboy
04-18-2007, 07:26 AM
his son or grandson must be hooked on video games :/

hian
04-18-2007, 12:28 PM
Doctor phil < Video games

Dr. Phil loses.

Anways... Is it just me or did that screenplay suck... The dialogue was like... totally weird, unnatural and, again, weird... And it wasn't really that violent either... wth...

cinderboy
04-18-2007, 12:38 PM
WIll like to see the look on his face now ... after its confirmed theres nothing to do with video games ... -_-

akm_202
04-18-2007, 12:47 PM
Although video games do play some part in violence (GTA)
but they are not the cause for everything,
although my parents blame my lack of socialness (with my family ONLY)
People like Dr. Phil will be the cause if video game ever gets banned
pray the day will never come!!

cinderboy
04-18-2007, 12:50 PM
Although video games do play some part in violence (GTA)
but they are not the cause for everything,
although my parents blame my lack of socialness (with my family ONLY)
People like Dr. Phil will be the cause if video game ever gets banned
pray the day will never come!!

and jack "anti-gaming" thompson~

Hellsing64
04-18-2007, 08:15 PM
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/

Dr. Phil Blames Video Games for Virginia Tech Massacre

http://www.gamepolitics.com/images/dr-phil.jpg

In the wake of yesterday’s horrific shootings at Virginia Tech, gadfly attorney Jack Thompson was not the only one who was quick to place blame on violent video games.

Noted T.V. shrink Dr. Phil McGraw appeared on CNN’s Larry King Live last night to discuss the rampage. During the course of the program, the following exchange took place:

LARRY KING: Why, though - OK, you want to kill someone, you’re crazed, you’re a little nuts, girlfriend drops you, why do you kill innocent people?… Dr. McGraw, are they treatable?

DR. PHIL: Well, Larry, every situation is different… The question really is can we spot them. And the problem is we are programming these people as a society. You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high.

And we’re going to have to start dealing with that. We’re going to have to start addressing those issues and recognizing that the mass murders of tomorrow are the children of today that are being programmed with this massive violence overdose.

Dr.Phil is blaming on Video games that bull crap, first off that kid is a South Korean and was talking a anti-despretion pills. I was shock to heard a Asia doing mass Killing but anyhow that Korean guy was over the limit that cause this massacre should the pills play mayor role on this maybe.

There have been cases over here in Massachusetts not like Virgina but a special kid was talking a prescription medication that suppose to keep his anger stable but its seem he lost his control because the medication giving wasn't prescription to the kid and consequences it killed a student at the bathroom and the police describe how the kid with the knife killed him according to the police the kid with the knife follow the victim to the bathroom and from there he slash his neck and stab him muli-time on his back. And was blame on the doctor because he give wrong medication and didn't prevent the special kid anger.

So my suggestion the pill could be blame for this if korean guy was talking "Anti-desprestion pill" then he should know what he was doing back then but he did it anyhow and in result cause this massacre but College was easy target to slaugther a lot of people at one place in other word he planned it and his cruel plan work well.

And no Dr.Phill don't blame video games on this massacre it was the Korean guy who done it not the media nor us. If Korean student needed help he should have gone somewhere and get help.

I want to take this moment to say i'm so sorry to all those people that lost their loves one due to this massacre we lost two New England student at Virginia massacre there were all over the news there family were interview and its a tragic to me and to New England people.Now that we're criticality the Virginia reaction to warned the student after the first shot should have talking seriously it should but as many people would say they did the best they could and i think there could have done more to prevent this on happening. Increasing police control in that area because there were bomb treat sending to that school before that shooting was happening and if that treat would send here in Massachusetts then we would respond to it.

Dreakon
04-19-2007, 12:07 AM
A cousin of mine who was unfortunately born a little slow and extremely violent grew up playing racing games. When he was about 16, Grand Theft Auto 3 came out and lets face it, when that game dropped you were hard pressed to find anyone who wanted to leave the house. So with nothing better to do, he played the shit out of the game like everyone else. Couple months later, my cousin was a certified carjacker. He'd get arrested, get out, then steal another car. Sounds a lot like GTA, don't it?
You even admit your cousin is a little slow... how is it GTA's fault? If the person doesn't have the common sense to distinguish between the game and real life, then someone else needs to step in be it his parents, a psychiatrist or unfortunately... the police. For every slow cousin that proves just how slow he is, theres hundreds of perfectly logical people capable of playing and enjoying these games and lead perfectly functional lives.

The kid in the Virginia Tech shooting was in serious need of help. He was very mentally unstable and there is a lot of proof of that. To blame it on video games is ridiculous and is clearly an attempt to avoid blaming those who didn't do enough to help him growing up.


P.S: Jack Thompson will blame anything on video games. He's blaming so many things these days it's hard to take him seriously anymore. He's crying wolf.

Kenisai
04-19-2007, 12:26 AM
I dissagree and agree..
Why?
Because it may be that one of the reason was that the killer was kind of influenced by Gta or whatever bec the mail he sent to NBC shows pictures of him looking like a model in a video game...
I dont think it is redicuolus to blame it on video games because its just like any other possible reasons... And face it some wierdos are influenced by video games and kill people...

"DR. PHIL: Well, Larry, every situation is different… The question really is can we spot them. And the problem is we are programming these people as a society. You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high."

well he did say a mix of psychopath a sociopath and violent video games he did not say a normal person playing video games and killing just like that...

^^

Dreakon
04-19-2007, 12:40 AM
Because it may be that one of the reason was that the killer was kind of influenced by Gta or whatever bec the mail he sent to NBC shows pictures of him looking like a model in a video game...
I dont think it is redicuolus to blame it on video games because its just like any other possible reasons... And face it some wierdos are influenced by video games and kill people...
Same could be said about television, movies, music and hell... if we're going by what he sent to NBC, he could have been influenced by pictures he's seen somewhere.

Video games don't kill people, idiots with severe problems do.

TheSinter
04-19-2007, 12:43 AM
someone explained it to me like this....

millions of people can go watch a violent movie like disturbia and think that it was a cool movie..

out of those millions someone watches that movie and thinks that it is cool but they take it to an extreme level and do some sick stuff

but we shouldn't take the movie away when it provides entertainment to millions.

cinderboy
04-19-2007, 12:49 AM
Us humans are not perfect, and we got to learn to accept that most of the times, every bad or evil thing which happene is/are caused by us.No point pointing the finger at alternatives and not learn from one's mistake.

Uskae
04-19-2007, 12:51 AM
You even admit your cousin is a little slow... how is it GTA's fault? If the person doesn't have the common sense to distinguish between the game and real life, then someone else needs to step in be it his parents, a psychiatrist or unfortunately... the police. For every slow cousin that proves just how slow he is, theres hundreds of perfectly logical people capable of playing and enjoying these games and lead perfectly functional lives.


That wasn't very nice. Your not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed yourself seeing as how you missed the entire point of what I said.

You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high.


Reading is key.

Obviously there are people with common sense playing GTA and still maintain healthy lives, but there are also those that don't have the mental facilities to play these games. Some of these people end up doing things like this massacre (not that I'm saying that's the cause of it or is even a factor). I'm not blaming GTA for my cousin jacking cars, I'm saying it was a bad influence. A bad influence that is infused in our society.

cinderboy
04-19-2007, 01:00 AM
Not sure if this info was posted, but I went over to the website and saw this:

Anti-game Miami attorney Jack Thompson managed to get onto several national news broadcasts while the Virginia Tech situation was unfolding on Monday.

Thompson, of course, predicted that the killer would be, as he wrote in an e-mail to GamePolitics, a “gamer, obviously.”
__________________________________________________ _______________

Is this guy a moron ?!

acessxz
04-19-2007, 01:17 AM
Video games?

Look at what he been through. He lived in poverty as a kid, at that young age, something horrible like that will probably be implanted deep in his mind. Then, his parents move to the U.S for a better life, probably empty handed, I don't know how they can even afford airplane tickets. His parents must be working 24/7 so they can survive, is it a mystery that he's an introvert? all that then became a problem, he has some kind of grudge against rich people and people who make dirty money, maybe people that loans money to his parents?? going through all that, being an introvert, eventually he just explode.

Blame video games? Bullshit.

Dreakon
04-19-2007, 01:20 AM
Obviously there are people with common sense playing GTA and still maintain healthy lives, but there are also those that don't have the mental facilities to play these games. Some of these people end up doing things like this massacre (not that I'm saying that's the cause of it or is even a factor). I'm not blaming GTA for my cousin jacking cars, I'm saying it was a bad influence. A bad influence that is infused in our society.
If they don't have the mental facilities to play the game and retain any shred of common sense, then they need help. The parents, a psychiatrist or the authorities should be stepping in... simple as that.

I agree though and your right, it can be considered a bad influence. But we can't ban everything that isn't white, fluffy clouds of happiness.

Video games?

Look at what he been through. He lived in poverty as a kid, at that young age, something horrible like that will probably be implanted deep in his mind. Then, his parents move to the U.S for a better life, probably empty handed, I don't know how they can even afford airplane tickets. His parents must be working 24/7 so they can survive, is it a mystery that he's an introvert? all that then became a problem, he has some kind of grudge against rich people and people who make dirty money, maybe people that loans money to his parents?? going through all that, being an introvert, eventually he just explode.

Blame video games? Bullshit.
Exactly! The video sent to NBC was not only loaded with references to religion and other shootings, but the kid obviously had a hard time growing up and clearly was subject to a lot of bullying. Blame it on video games? You gotta be kidding me...

Neebus
04-19-2007, 01:41 AM
Jesus Christ, no matter what their reason behind it is they will always blame video games. Honestly, what will it take? The guy made it clear what his backing was to do this, and they didn't include video games.


If I shot up an entire village in the name some God and it made headline news they would probably blame it on far cry. It's insane what people can use as their soapbox these days.

BabyXSoap
04-19-2007, 02:53 AM
on aol.com the killers roomates said that he kept to himself so maybe he was not under in influence of games. Maybe he was a outcast like me in elamentry-_-

EDIT:http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/virginia-tech-shooting/20070416102509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001#video

yea i was f*&king right-_-

cinderboy
04-19-2007, 03:26 AM
If demons were to spawn in our world tomorrow they will blame diablo ... ok its sort of lame :/

WitcHunter
04-19-2007, 03:32 AM
rofl. Soon I bet they'll start blaming bad economy on world of warcraft because it rob lives.

Screw you jack, screw you.

Btw if your a CAD PREMIUM member like I am, theres episodes with Ethan and Lucas and Lilah vs Jack Thompson. Awsome =).

cinderboy
04-19-2007, 03:35 AM
rofl. Soon I bet they'll start blaming bad economy on world of warcraft because it rob lives.


Not far from this aim now. WoW is already blamed for broken marriages and relationships, broken families, parents neglecting their child, people skipping classes and work ... Phew~ and the list goes on :D

Berrybenya
04-19-2007, 04:24 AM
i blame Dr. Phil for losing my cookies. no wait its in my stomach. my bad. :/
i would use my brains unlike that person and blame the stupid w/e that allowed you to get guns -_ - OH YES MY FRIEND CAME OVER MY HOUSE WITH OUT A CALL IM GOING TO SHOOT HIM WITH THIS GUN O o O O o O o
is what they want to happen.

Attila
04-19-2007, 04:44 AM
What these anti-game terrorists need is a guy that comes yelling "GTA!" and kills them all with a bazooka.

SilverIce
04-19-2007, 05:20 AM
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/

Dr. Phil Blames Video Games for Virginia Tech Massacre

http://www.gamepolitics.com/images/dr-phil.jpg

In the wake of yesterday’s horrific shootings at Virginia Tech, gadfly attorney Jack Thompson was not the only one who was quick to place blame on violent video games.

Noted T.V. shrink Dr. Phil McGraw appeared on CNN’s Larry King Live last night to discuss the rampage. During the course of the program, the following exchange took place:

LARRY KING: Why, though - OK, you want to kill someone, you’re crazed, you’re a little nuts, girlfriend drops you, why do you kill innocent people?… Dr. McGraw, are they treatable?

DR. PHIL: Well, Larry, every situation is different… The question really is can we spot them. And the problem is we are programming these people as a society. You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high.

And we’re going to have to start dealing with that. We’re going to have to start addressing those issues and recognizing that the mass murders of tomorrow are the children of today that are being programmed with this massive violence overdose.
riiiight, video games are definitely the only source of violence. jesus christ, action flicks, tv? just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean you can blame it.

olaph
04-19-2007, 05:32 AM
don't forget violent music

oh and dr phil always blames the f*cking gaming industry for everything

infact it was the last interview he was in XD

Berrybenya
04-19-2007, 06:18 AM
believe it or not, Dr phil's son blames porn for every disaster. omg. -_- looool
i just noticed i felt like slaping the crap out of him after seeing this picture. lol
http://www.gamepolitics.com/images/dr-phil.jpg

Who
04-19-2007, 06:55 AM
But Cho actually played counterstrike for about 4-6 years of his life.


but it was probably cuz his imaginary gf dumped him. O_O

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2682/whatvq7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatvq7.png)

Berrybenya
04-19-2007, 07:08 AM
But Cho actually played counterstrike for about 4-6 years of his life.


but it was probably cuz his imaginary gf dumped him. O_O

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2682/whatvq7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatvq7.png)

now if he did that because of cs there should be a few hundred people killing
people in noob field aka playground with knifes swords w/e is in wow. lmao -.-

cinderboy
04-19-2007, 07:54 AM
Just read that he sent some videos etc to a news center ...

Omg, what I fear that soon, all depressed people like him will make him their idol and follow suit O_O

Stabkiller0
04-19-2007, 07:55 AM
Just read that he sent some videos etc to a news center ...

Omg, what I fear that soon, all depressed people like him will make him their idol and follow suit O_O

I thought it was funny how everyone decided to become a copycat right after it got reported on the news.

cinderboy
04-19-2007, 07:58 AM
I thought it was funny how everyone decided to become a copycat right after it got reported on the news.

A cult might even be formed O_O lol

ap0c
04-19-2007, 12:41 PM
OK... lets assume that Dr.Phil is correct, that exposeure to violent video games coupled with mental instability fuels the devlopment of an episode in the mentally instable, inwhich the foundation of the contruction of idea's from their imagination and creativity is the reconstruction of the violence they have wittnessed in the game(s) they have been playing.

Accepting this, and that such consequences are most evident in School Shootings.means that Dr.Phil is most troubled by the Question well what happens when a mentally instable person is exposed to happy , comicable, friendly, cutesy, fun video games or movies?

Would they not go out on the streets and into there college campus's fuelled not with the red mist of violence and rage but with the rosey cheecked , pink blossomed aurora of joy going on "hugging spree's" and handing out hot cookies to there fellow's , and not hot lead?

Does this happen? No. If what Dr.Phil is saying is true that how could it not happen? This means that what Dr.Phil is saying is not true.

As it stands, this suggests that computer games have no real powerful effect upon the mind of the mentally instable.

Trisomy
04-19-2007, 02:33 PM
I just looked at an article(ill put it up as soon as i find it again) that said that violence in video games does not do anything unless you are already naturally agresive. It was in his genes not in the games.

nzrock
04-19-2007, 05:46 PM
due to human's selfish natures. we will try and find anything or anyone to blame for misfortunes.

i guess those tv psychics or w/e are getting their egos higher by jumping into conclusions.

they failed. lulz.

BooNeZ
04-19-2007, 06:21 PM
I blame people around him...especially kids from his childhood memories... Video Games? Oh cmon, it's the parents to blame. If his blaming Video Games because of students killing other students, it's the parents to blame.

Trisomy
04-19-2007, 06:58 PM
I blame NZrock. Cause hes such an awesome scapegoat. JK JK...

Shattered Skies
04-19-2007, 11:06 PM
Jack Thompson is a jackass. We all know this. So heres sorta my message to him.


Dear Jack,

http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/sup.jpg

I think you need:
http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/edumacation.jpg

when it comes to games and gamers in general. Your whole:

http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/waitillfixit.jpg

attitude is going to get you in the long run.
Just remember, us gamers can and will:

http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/castmagicmissile.jpg

at you.

So with that said, my last words to you are simple:

http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/fyou.jpg
and
http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/getthe****out.jpg

before we all:

http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/criticalmass.jpg

Remember assbag:
http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/yourenext.jpg
http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/sniper%20kitten.jpg
http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/keyboardwatchingyoufap.jpg

to the news for more mass killilngs.

http://12.207.76.189//roflcat/images/curseyouvillains.jpg

Sincerely Yours,

The People You Hate

Phantom
04-19-2007, 11:17 PM
they both really need to get laid.

Graven
04-19-2007, 11:22 PM
they both really need to get laid.

I concur. But really, why do people listen to these people. And also if video games could push people to kill people, I would expect Cliffy B. to be a mass murderer by now, if it was true.

Also there were no Video Games in his possesion:
Topic: http://www.onrpg.com/boards/48500.html

RedWraithQueen
04-20-2007, 12:24 AM
Dr. Phil and Jack Thompson= pwned.

cinderboy
04-20-2007, 05:33 AM
They should form the League of Anti-Gaming Gentlemen ...

olaph
04-20-2007, 07:30 AM
na their gamezis

trying to cleanse the world of all video game related content

Berrybenya
04-20-2007, 07:48 AM
Jack Thompson is a jackass. We all know this. So heres sorta my message to him.

lmfao you cat freak :o
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all those games i played and not a single person i hurt. lmao how are you going to explain that mr. Docter! i need some Pills? and Jackoff Thumbsin? o.O

cinderboy
04-20-2007, 08:57 AM
THe only thing gaming took away from me was time ... which i can sort of afford now :P