as the title says, im looking for an mmorpg that takes skill from the user and not just massive amounts of time, i would also like lots of skills/spells and effects (ie. stun, sleep, weaken etc.) to be in the game
if there is a game that combines gunz and guildwars or wow, then thats the perfect game for me
thank you very much for the help :)

I was going to say Guildwars or maybe Gunz but....

There are none, the best ones have shut down and even they were all Lobby+game room games like Gunz not real RPG/world games.

If I'm wrong, plz let me know about it. I've been looking for such a game for awhile.

man they need more games like that
combine the skill and fast pased action of fps games with the fantasy and leveling of mmorpg games
then again, if a game like this existed i would be a total loner and play it 24/7

they need more games like that
combine the skill involved and fast pased action of fps games with the leveling and fantasy of an mmorpg game :(

isnt that risk your life or Nerocron?

mabinogi, its skill based (both way :p)
if you get youre ability skills up, they will go faster
also you need a good combination which makes your skill
like
attacking-enemy flies away, runs to you to attack- in that time you start your counter skill-monster attacks - you counter - monster flies away
then you could also
defense- monster comes to you and attacks- you block and attack back
if your ability skill is higher you can cast them faster
theres currently no english version out, most onrpg member play the TW version

nvm, i found my perfect game, but i will never play it unless i want my life to be ruined, but i can't resist at the same time O.o
Darkfall
...christ, i wont be able to play another game for a while, everything does not even compare in the slightest
out of the massive amounts of amazing games that are coming out due to the increase in the gaming industry cuz of WoW, I support the theory that Darkfall will stand above all others...if I am wrong please tell me, I would love to see a game better than this one

It looks like Darkfall will lag us all to hell.

hahaha yeah man i agree, its gonna take quite the computer to run this bad boy

heres the movie i saw that made me jizz my pants lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hFBX4VGPw

Yeah i searched it. Its graphics are like oblivion and everquest put together, and then everything else is oblivion + Guild wars + WoW + Everquest + all the greatest p2p mmos ever made combined into one thing.

Holy crap i wanna just go play that and if its not f2p guess its time for me to get a job when i turn 14