I was an avid player of Wow, I had a level 60 hunter (Played 58-60 in BC).
(I thought this place would be appropriate because I don't see complainers in the other forums.)

I know some people don't take kindly to WoW in the forum, which I think is just dumb. 1/2 the people never played it and are just jumping on the "WoW Sukz" bandwagon. I've played WoW, its had its goods and bads.

Goods- Kept me occupied for a while with all the dungeons and quests and pets (I was a hunter).

Bads- Its a grind-fest with 3 base kinds of quests, and one "special" category." Most items/equips are recolors until you hit endgame.

THE QUESTS

Gathering- Go out and "open" plants, sacks of oats, and dressers to collect items.

Bounty Hunting- Go out and kill x amount of monsters, 1 "boss" monster, or both.

Retrieval- Go out and kill monsters until they drop x amount of items.

Special- Okay, these are the remotely fun ones. You can go talk to someone to get one of the 3 base quests, sometimes you have to protect someone while being attacked, sometimes its an escort, or like your first few quests in Burning Crusade to keep you hooked, bomb the crap out of everything while riding a griffon.



I understand that people have personal preferences to what they like in games, but really, I've just seen 3 "WoW vrs. <game that does not remotely compare to it>". Like, WoW vrs. Tibia for example. See, I'm all up for WoW vrs. Guild Wars. Thats a valid comparison. Wow vrs. Maplestory on the other hand is just some idiot looking for some cheap lulz that they don't get by anyone with an IQ. Its just getting old.

Ive played wow too, got 2 70's 1 65( With help from my brother ^^), but some things are a grind yes..
Yet, it had a different feeling. The universe, lore, names etc, is what made this game. I played warcraft 3, the whole campaign and it was very cool to walk around freely in areas where you did missions earlier, it was alot more appealing then those chinese/korean mmorpgs. And about the grindfest, it wasnt too bad for me, in outlands there are alot more fun quests too.
Grinding is essential for any game, to achieve something you will need to grind. There are games without grinds but then you will get games like gunbound, kartrider, etc.
And you cant compare games to WoW if you havent played at least warcraft 3, else i can understand you dont understand anything from the great storyline :)

mm in this forum have a lot of complainers xD,

there are some aspects on wow ...well...i think wow its a improved tibia in some aspects... *personal opinion xD*
i played it and well...for me wow = xgame +xgame+ Xgame a mix of all the Korean game systems *personal opinion*...

and yeah its grindy...but the good point in wow its the quest are "light" and u are entertained While you are lvling

Boo.. my friend wanted me to help him lvling his char so he gave me his wow pw i helped him abit but got bored pretty fast.

World of Warcraft keeps entertaining me, after 1 Year and 130€ invested. i had a lvl 67 Gnome Rogue. and it isn't really a grindfest - dont forget the 200% EXP Bonus if you log out in a city. and in instances you get many EXP too. the community can be really nice, but there are always some black sheeps.

but @ Canem

wrong Section :p

Good to See..WoW players Here.I personally have 2 70s
58-60 is real fast lol

The problem is Here is "free Mmorpg" forums
and most ppl here dont wanna pay to play.

They Dissed wow Becos they cant lvl inside up to a lvl that U can truely Plat the game.what is tibia/maplestory to wow?? Its like mario graphcis Vs Halo

I will be flamed but this is the truth.8 milion players cannot be wrong.

I have guilds wars and granado espada too.2nd and 3rd imo.

Perfect world is the nxt game i am waiting for.
Now if only they made a elder scrolls online :)

but @ Canem

wrong Section :p

2nd line of my original post.

Well:
1: You can't call people idiots for there opinions.
2: Most people who don't like WoW have played ALOT of korean games, so in that large array of games, it is very likely they'll have games of choice which they'd rank above WoW.
3: Yes, WoW vs games like MS and Tibia sort of defeat the whole point of the comparison. But WoW fans are just as worse, such as a topic while ago comparing WoW graphics to SRO graphics, and half of the poll being taken up with people saying "I vote for WoW for its gameplay." Point is, invalid polls are made by mentally invalid people. So you really shouldn't be judging this forum on them, or saying that people are jumping on the bandwagon against WoW, because there are culprits on both sides.
4: Personally, i dont like WoW. I like the fact that areas are huge, and can be explored for days, great variety of races, classes, crafting skills and quests. But I found the spawn rates and general gameplay so horribly slow i got bored very quickly. No way would i say it sucked, but it is no where near one of my favourite games.

WOW is the highest quality and most polished mmorpg I've ever played. Unfortunately I'm not satisfied with the PvP system... I'm hoping Warhammer will be WOWish with much better PvP.

I've been on this forum for a good while now (Months before the site update and deletion of everyones accounts that led me to not make anouther out of laziness) and I have seen maybe 3 posts praising wow. I am in no way judging anyone, after a year of observation of this forum I've found more people that I care to count who are "mentally invalid". I havent said that bad deeds havent been done on the WoW players side, but you see way to many people posting shit in random threads saying,"lol wow suckz :P". When I see that, I think,"What a bias 1/2 retarded child looking for acceptance by saying what everyone else says.". It just comepletely baffles me that so many people are so stupid.

Well:
1: You can't call people idiots for there opinions.
2: Most people who don't like WoW have played ALOT of korean games, so in that large array of games, it is very likely they'll have games of choice which they'd rank above WoW.
3: Yes, WoW vs games like MS and Tibia sort of defeat the whole point of the comparison. But WoW fans are just as worse, such as a topic while ago comparing WoW graphics to SRO graphics, and half of the poll being taken up with people saying "I vote for WoW for its gameplay." Point is, invalid polls are made by mentally invalid people. So you really shouldn't be judging this forum on them, or saying that people are jumping on the bandwagon against WoW, because there are culprits on both sides.
4: Personally, i dont like WoW. I like the fact that areas are huge, and can be explored for days, great variety of races, classes, crafting skills and quests. But I found the spawn rates and general gameplay so horribly slow i got bored very quickly. No way would i say it sucked, but it is no where near one of my favourite games.First of all, this is honestly the wrong forum for the discussion. As for WoW, it's not a game for everyone. I've played boatloads of asian mmo's and american mmo's. They are vastly different conceptually, but they are slowly working toward middle ground. Hell, I currently have Two Lvl 70's, Nine Lvl 60's, and oodles of others in mid-levels (You can count Two more 70's and a 61 Mage sorta since my bestfriend sucks at leveling and I log in and speed up his toons :p ). Do I play WoW much anymore? No, it's gotten stale and Blizzard keeps screwing it up. I only log in now when a friend needs help. I'd honestly still play more if TBC had never came out. Just prior to TBC when the PvP changes were made (Prior to 41 pt Talents) WoW was at it's finest. Now it's back to an ignorant grindfest with gear differentials at their worst ever. Play if you like it, but don't expect everyone to agree with you.

Great game, but its not worth the pay 2 p since pservers are almost as good as the real and they can hold 1000 to 1200 users !! little fixing with that and wow is never been the same.

Only game i thought was worth paying was ryzom, So unique

First of all, this is honestly the wrong forum for the discussion. As for WoW, it's not a game for everyone. I've played boatloads of asian mmo's and american mmo's. They are vastly different conceptually, but they are slowly working toward middle ground. Hell, I currently have Two Lvl 70's, Nine Lvl 60's, and oodles of others in mid-levels (You can count Two more 70's and a 61 Mage sorta since my bestfriend sucks at leveling and I log in and speed up his toons :p ). Do I play WoW much anymore? No, it's gotten stale and Blizzard keeps screwing it up. I only log in now when a friend needs help. I'd honestly still play more if TBC had never came out. Just prior to TBC when the PvP changes were made (Prior to 41 pt Talents) WoW was at it's finest. Now it's back to an ignorant grindfest with gear differentials at their worst ever. Play if you like it, but don't expect everyone to agree with you.

I only wish BC didn't come out because I was at 55 when it did and it would have been the first game I maxed out in, but no endgame for me. D:

On a side note, I've played a crap load of asian mmos aswell as american ones. :P

Great game, but its not worth the pay 2 p since pservers are almost as good as the real and they can hold 1000 to 1200 users !! little fixing with that and wow is never been the same.

Only game i thought was worth paying was ryzom, So unique

Youre totally wrong here. I've played on alot of private servers and they arent better. Character wipes, offline/disconnect, no players for instances, spells/talents dont work etc etc.

I would definitely play WoW if i had the money or if it became f2p. Its a great game and i like the Warcraft storyline.

Great game, but its not worth the pay 2 p since pservers are almost as good as the real and they can hold 1000 to 1200 users !! little fixing with that and wow is never been the same.

Only game i thought was worth paying was ryzom, So unique

Thats bullshit. Highest I've ever seen is 300 max. No way you can have the same experience with so few people on the server.

I don't like WoW, I wouldn't play it if it were f2p, you could not pay me to play it.

Don't like it? Too bad.

See, I'm all up for WoW vrs. Guild Wars. Thats a valid comparison.

Not really...

I don't like WoW, I wouldn't play it if it were f2p, you could not pay me to play it.

Don't like it? Too bad.

I dont believe you.. if you got 10 bucks an hour just to play WoW you wouldnt accept it?

Not really...

Elaborate please. It is a valid comparison because the both are very active games which are debated over constantly. I'll give you that Guild Wars isn't classified as an MMORPG, but they are in the same ballpark. You still level, do missions (wow's instances), do quests, and get skills. The differences between them are what makes comparison possible.


Oh, and nice attitude Stranger, makes me feel like you're above me at life.

Thats bullshit. Highest I've ever seen is 300 max. No way you can have the same experience with so few people on the server.No, it's not. In the emulator community you can have a soft max of 250 using the MaNGOS emulator. A few weeks ago however a much better one called Antrix was released that has a soft cap of 1,000 players. It offers a much more stable environment, less latency, better support for instancing, much improved classes, etc and is being well received by the community. If people want to learn more about this stuff, then I suggest learning to Google. Now that you are informed I hope to see less inflammatory ignorant statements on the subject in the future.

This post is meant as a correction. It is not a message about how to play on a pserver or where to find one. Please treat it as such.

I have a lv 70 human rogue and i have to tell u WoW is by far the funnest mmorpg so far. Right now im just waiting for WAR for the real pvp craze.

I was an avid player of Wow, I had a level 60 hunter (Played 58-60 in BC).
(I thought this place would be appropriate because I don't see complainers in the other forums.)

I know some people don't take kindly to WoW in the forum, which I think is just dumb. 1/2 the people never played it and are just jumping on the "WoW Sukz" bandwagon. I've played WoW, its had its goods and bads.

Goods- Kept me occupied for a while with all the dungeons and quests and pets (I was a hunter).

Bads- Its a grind-fest with 3 base kinds of quests, and one "special" category." Most items/equips are recolors until you hit endgame.

THE QUESTS

Gathering- Go out and "open" plants, sacks of oats, and dressers to collect items.

Bounty Hunting- Go out and kill x amount of monsters, 1 "boss" monster, or both.

Retrieval- Go out and kill monsters until they drop x amount of items.

Special- Okay, these are the remotely fun ones. You can go talk to someone to get one of the 3 base quests, sometimes you have to protect someone while being attacked, sometimes its an escort, or like your first few quests in Burning Crusade to keep you hooked, bomb the crap out of everything while riding a griffon.



I understand that people have personal preferences to what they like in games, but really, I've just seen 3 "WoW vrs. <game that does not remotely compare to it>". Like, WoW vrs. Tibia for example. See, I'm all up for WoW vrs. Guild Wars. Thats a valid comparison. Wow vrs. Maplestory on the other hand is just some idiot looking for some cheap lulz that they don't get by anyone with an IQ. Its just getting old.We all have our opinions and in our opinion your opinions suck. Also almost everyone here has played it just like Runescape.

I personally don't like wow. I've tried it, I got bored of it pretty fast.
Wow really isn't as good of a game as some people try to say. It also isn't as bad as alot of others seem to think.

One of the reasons why so many people seem to like wow is basically that its a Blizzard game.

Blizzard made Diablo, they made the Warcraft rts games, they made Starcraft. I havent seen very many people that dont know those games. I've seen even less that dont like them. Because of that alot of people I've seen like wow and say its an awesome game, simply because theres no way a Blizzard game can't be awesome.

But, its not really a bad game. I don't like it because it doesnt seem like theres anything really special about it. What does it do that other games haven't done plenty of times in the past?

You can say that about most new games though, so its not just something specific to wow.

I always end up playing WoW again. Guild Wars too. Both games are just really good. I wasn't going to play it again after the last time I stopped. The game is a huge time sink. You don't even realise how long you are playing sometime because it just sucks you in.

So it is good to just stop for a while and play some other games. Recently I have been playing Granado Espada. I stopped playing that a few days ago (Lag is killing me). I really just have this urge to make a new rogue on WoW and see what all the new stuff is about since I haven't played since around September.

I'm not trying to tell anyone to go out and play WoW. But it is one of the best games I have played. These free mmo's usually are nowhere near as good. About the only thing that is better is the graphics. And what kills them is the lack of quest and the horrible grind.

Yeah WoW's all good until you spam "LFG for (insert instance here)" for two hours.

Yeah WoW's all good until you spam "LFG for (insert instance here)" for two hours.lrn2guild :p

Hahem. WoW is a very good game thou if you're sayin its kickin the ass of every other mmorpg (like most WoW fans do) you have some problems up your brain !

WoW is only a big commercial mix up of lot of mmorpgs the result : a mix up of the goods and bad of lot of mmorpg. My friend who plays WoW act as if it was the best game ever, after playin WoW around a month I got bored !

Well my big opinion is that this game deserve a 7/10, it ain't perfect but its not bad. (ps. really not worth the p2p seriously.)

just for future refernce to the people that defend wow to the death without listening to other oppinions and thinking about them, and to the people that whine about how nobody should hate wow, and the people that think everyone that hates wow just can't afford it...

you're the reason i (and many others) hate wow, morons like that make it a shitty community and no fun to play.

the other main reasons i don't play, is beucase as a company, im not a huge fan of blizzard, there's nothing special to do, you hit level 70 then realise that so is everyone else, world of warcraft does have some good qualities but overall for some of us, beucase of various reasons, it's just not fun to play.

Not to mention i have seen it ruin a few friends lol

just for future refernce to the people that defend wow to the death without listening to other oppinions and thinking about them, and to the people that whine about how nobody should hate wow, and the people that think everyone that hates wow just can't afford it...

you're the reason i (and many others) hate wow, morons like that make it a shitty community and no fun to play.

the other main reasons i don't play, is beucase as a company, im not a huge fan of blizzard, there's nothing special to do, you hit level 70 then realise that so is everyone else, world of warcraft does have some good qualities but overall for some of us, beucase of various reasons, it's just not fun to play.

Not to mention i have seen it ruin a few friends lol


hmm yeah u hit 70 and you can only go and craft better equipment, raid for better equipment, save up for a pimp epic flying mount, battleground pvp, arena pvp, 5 man with friends.

Boy i wish i could rather play a korean mmo where i can just keep grinding and grinding until it takes 4 weeks to gain one level, only to repeat the process indefinitely. Lots of fun :p

Long term WoW player here, played since beta, fastest level 70 dren when BC was released (my server) another 6 chars 60 or over (same account) blah blah blah. Personally I found BC to be the killer for me maybe coz I spent 2 weeks up 18 to 24 hours a day till I hit 70 but I found the new instances to hard to get key'ed for and then the spawn rate in Kara to be to fast 2 wipes and repops.....I also like the bigger raids and talking crap on TS and the old times of taking down a 40 man boss with 27 people try a 10 man boss these days with 7 and I highly doubt you'd be able to do it, blizz is already changing the requirements to lessen the stress on people which is a good move IMO.

I'm back playing WoW again this time horde side but I kinda returned more for the people, don't get me wrong I don't mind the game play and I do like the pvp, it's just it does get boring for me but most games do, that's why I'm here to find something new, god knows how many beta's I've been in and how many I will be in.

IMO WoW is a good game would I P2P now if I knew how it was going be... probably not but I did and I still am... till I find the next thing it mite be GE waiting to see what their live model is.

WoW will kill your pets, eat your babies, rape your wife, drive your car without a license, leave empty beer bottles on your carpet, turn your XBOX360 on during the night, and massacre the Jews! It must be stopped! :teeth:

WoW will kill your pets, eat your babies, rape your wife, drive your car without a license, leave empty beer bottles on your carpet, turn your XBOX360 on during the night, and massacre the Jews! It must be stopped! :teeth:The above reasons are exactly why I still pay my WoW monthly payment, yet rarely even play the game. :p

No, it's not. In the emulator community you can have a soft max of 250 using the MaNGOS emulator. A few weeks ago however a much better one called Antrix was released that has a soft cap of 1,000 players. It offers a much more stable environment, less latency, better support for instancing, much improved classes, etc and is being well received by the community. If people want to learn more about this stuff, then I suggest learning to Google. Now that you are informed I hope to see less inflammatory ignorant statements on the subject in the future.

This post is meant as a correction. It is not a message about how to play on a pserver or where to find one. Please treat it as such.

Ok, I stand corrected. But I still believe you will never have the same kind of experience on a private unless it really is that similar as in Blizzlike rates, huge community of all levels, races and classes etc.

I dont believe you.. if you got 10 bucks an hour just to play WoW you wouldnt accept it?
Why would I?
Oh, and nice attitude Stranger, makes me feel like you're above me at life.
Opinions are fun like that.

Ok, I stand corrected. But I still believe you will never have the same kind of experience on a private unless it really is that similar as in Blizzlike rates, huge community of all levels, races and classes etc.Agreed, but there are servers I have seen and played on using Blizz Rates and having sometimes upwards of 500+ users on at a time. Still not a tremendous amount of players, but scarily enough it's better than many official servers in the low-mid range. There is even a server out now that has player/guild housing implemented. It's sad when the pservers expand more than official. >_<!

I personally would like to see Blizzard implement a couple Fun Servers (High Exp Rates, High Drop Rates), Custom Servers (Get to choose a max level class already tiered out in gear), or Classic Servers (No TBC Expansion at all). I think it'd be a nice diversion and keep people more interested in playing the overall game.

Im not defending WoW to the death, and Im certainly not saying it kicks the crap out of other mmos. Im bitching about idiots who havent played the game, and the ones that compare it to shit games. And as for me making a shitty community, I've never played anything with you, that isnt even an opinion, its just you running your mouth.

Agreed, but there are servers I have seen and played on using Blizz Rates and having sometimes upwards of 500+ users on at a time. Still not a tremendous amount of players, but scarily enough it's better than many official servers in the low-mid range. There is even a server out now that has player/guild housing implemented. It's sad when the pservers expand more than official. >_<!

I personally would like to see Blizzard implement a couple Fun Servers (High Exp Rates, High Drop Rates), Custom Servers (Get to choose a max level class already tiered out in gear), or Classic Servers (No TBC Expansion at all). I think it'd be a nice diversion and keep people more interested in playing the overall game.

Nah, with high rate servers, people would experience everything in the game and get bored, then they cancel their subscription. They'll lose more customers that way.

Seriously, if you didn't have to pay for WoW, I would guarantee that some of you guys would stop whining why WoW sucks.

The only super special awesome thing about WoW is pvp
but no WoW class really fits me

The only super special awesome thing about WoW is pvp
but no WoW class really fits me
Actually, WoW PvP is kinda lame. I'd rather play GW for PvP, but WoW for PvE.
I personally think WoW is one of the best MMO's I've ever played, even with all of it's problems.

My opinion, nothing more nothing less. :smile:

Yes WoW has it's problems, but so does every other MMO. What makes WoW have more players than nearly every other MMORPG combined is it's level of finish. Everything in WoW is easy to use. You don't have to struggle with buggy interfaces like 99% of Korean MMOs and the movement system is fluid, it doesn't look like your character is skating along the ground. The item system, which was inherited from Diablo, is much better than those strange +X items found in many other MMOs.

The point is, while you WoW haters can maybe produce a paragraph on the problems with WoW, I could write an essay on whatever MMO you think is "better" than WoW.

Yes WoW has it's problems, but so does every other MMO. What makes WoW have more players than nearly every other MMORPG combined is it's level of finish. Everything in WoW is easy to use. You don't have to struggle with buggy interfaces like 99% of Korean MMOs and the movement system is fluid, it doesn't look like your character is skating along the ground. The item system, which was inherited from Diablo, is much better than those strange +X items found in many other MMOs.

The point is, while you WoW haters can maybe produce a paragraph on the problems with WoW, I could write an essay on whatever MMO you think is "better" than WoW.

Not a very good argument, in my opinon wow has alot of players due too its aggressive advertising and well simply put its easy access. Its got TV ads it has big cardboard cut outs in shops, time cards can be bought in lots of shops no need for credit card instant win with the kiddies, lets not forget its built on the warcraft reputation. Ok games i think that are better than WoW lets start Eve-Online and City of hero's Both games are excellent quality and have reguraly free expansions also they fix bugs on a weekly basis. Now im not insulting WoW it has its good points just i cant find any that apeal to me. Also i thought the item system on wow was terrible.

I found the UI annoying as hell. =/

You know this thread it going nowhere..

Might as well get it locked before it becomes a flame-a-thon.

Most people say wow sucks though they've never played it.

I'm pretty sure it's said because they're, in a sense, jealous they cannot afford to play it.

It really is a good mmorpg. It's the best out there in my opinion. PVE is better than most mmorpgs, and with a party or raid group, it actually REQUIRES teamwork which makes it very fun.
PVP is awesome, skill plays just as large of a part in it as having epic equipement. It actually feels like an action game in pvp.

I think part of what makes wow such a great game, is simply being able to move while attacking. It's such a simple feature, but it makes the game feel less like a simple mmo grind, and more like an action game (though in pve moving around doesn't matter, mobs will still hit you, you can never get behind them)

The expansion pack ruined the game. 60-70 is just tedious questing.

I'm sure if I made it to 70 I'd be still playing and pvping, but I only made it to 64 before I couldn't take it any more.
I can't really play any mmorpgs any more though.

But yeah, before you say "WOW SUCKS AH MEH GOD" try actually playing it. Don't just judge it because all of your e-friends said it sucks.

Keep the discussion clean please.

I found the UI annoying as hell. =/

Addons fixed that easily.

I found the UI annoying as hell. =/

You can fully customize it with addons, you can do whatever you want.
Look at korean mmorpgs, no customization at all and mostly the bars are buggy too..

Isnt this section the "FREE mmorpg" section?

Wth is with all those off-topic threads?

@Most people say wow sucks though they've never played it.
Yea, they all lie to see your dumb reactions...

I seriousely dont realy want to see all this spam-threads about WoW when I browse a Free MMo section; they dont belong here.

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Isnt this section the "FREE mmorpg" section?

Wth is with all those off-topic threads?

@Most people say wow sucks though they've never played it.
Yea, they all lie to see your dumb reactions...

I seriousely dont realy want to see all this spam-threads about WoW when I browse a Free MMo section; they dont belong here.

Right.. then it goes into the WoW section where all the WoW players will agree and praise WoW? Wow how productive.

i played wow,got to level 30 and got bored,i've seen the end game content and frankly it didn't look too good afew of the armors looked bad ass but other then that its nothing new,it has alot of borrowed elements that i've seen before,the raids and such from EQ same as the control scheme and combat(only faster)wow after thinking about it WoW borrowed alot from EQ.
but as stated its nothing new all together.

Right.. then it goes into the WoW section where all the WoW players will agree and praise WoW? Wow how productive.

How about you get one of the Admins to make a Paid MMORPG section. So much easier to get things organized.

How about you get one of the Admins to make a Paid MMORPG section. So much easier to get things organized.

im whit you in this lol
well...its true wow borrowed somethings from games like EQ,GW *ony the metod to get the skills by npc...well its my opinion lol* and some other korean games...but well....all the mmorpg are using elements from another mmropg >_>...

How about you get one of the Admins to make a Paid MMORPG section. So much easier to get things organized.

Actualy I am not with you on this...
I like how this site is filling a special niche, which I am interested in.
I dont think that to harsh moderation would do this site any good, but basicaly it isnt fit for the total mainstream, easy answer crowd.
Playing f2p means trying a lot of stuff out, make the best out of what you get, but also know what you can expect. To many people for diffrent reasons, but also for having this set of mind, WoW is the most boring answer, to the question what to play. There are tons of forums for WoW anyways...
WoW fans who found the best game ever (for the next 5 month) might not get it. Many of those are imature enough to make a thread trying to enforce their thoughts on to all others who play MMos. they kick loose an avalange where everyone gets insulted and starts to counterflame.
If this is a comunity, it is able to learn and establish values of its own, which benefit the interaction of all.
What I am personaly saying is that this forum is better of without WoW in it. Everyone is free to make up his mind about his oppinions and express them with posting them.
Have fun,
R.

Actualy I am not with you on this...
I like how this site is filling a special niche, which I am interested in.
I dont think that to harsh moderation would do this site any good, but basicaly it isnt fit for the total mainstream, easy answer crowd.
Playing f2p means trying a lot of stuff out, make the best out of what you get, but also know what you can expect. To many people for diffrent reasons, but also for having this set of mind, WoW is the most boring answer, to the question what to play. There are tons of forums for WoW anyways...
WoW fans who found the best game ever (for the next 5 month) might not get it. Many of those are imature enough to make a thread trying to enforce their thoughts on to all others who play MMos. they kick loose an avalange where everyone gets insulted and starts to counterflame.
If this is a comunity, it is able to learn and establish values of its own, which benefit the interaction of all.
What I am personaly saying is that this forum is better of without WoW in it. Everyone is free to make up his mind about his oppinions and express them with posting them.
Have fun,
R.

...You realize there's a WoW section, right? And just as well, a Paid section isn't just for WoW. It's for the other games that require a subscription fee in order to keep the user's account active. Or more specifically, it's for the games that require a subscription fee but don't have their own section.

im whit you in this lol
well...its true wow borrowed somethings from games like EQ,GW *ony the metod to get the skills by npc...well its my opinion lol* and some other korean games...but well....all the mmorpg are using elements from another mmropg >_>...

Guild Wars came out after WoW, so how could it copy the method of getting skills by NPCs? Also, so what, WoW has some of the same systems as EQ, it doesn't mean they exactly copied them. EQ didn't copyright of a "raid," so it doesn't matter.
WoW is just a very solid game. Now, I've played almost every free MMORPG out there, and I haven't found anything close to WoW. I've played the open beta of Granada Espana, and just got bored after around two weeks, it didn't have any appeal.

Lmao guys... wow....

This conversation was going good, until the WoW Fanboys got insulted, and, even though before they said its r3tarded to compare WoW to a F2P game, now they're comparing it to show how 1337 it is.

Jeeze :-/ Yes WoW is great, the best B2P/P2P game on the market, stats show it. NO need to sit here and argue whats the best, because WoW creames the other games in players... but what is wrong is the content has reached its limit, therefore although it has more persay than other F2P games, ppl are looking for FRESH content, not more..

Yes wow has good pvp, instances, crafting proffessions, mounts, massive quests.... but after you've experienced it all, you want something fresh and new, which is why people flame WoW... they say it sucks because there is very little "new" about it. Max lvl cap? run instances for a few months.. woot you got your purple shield with +42 stam, 20 str and +10% reflected w00t im 1337er than u n00b.

But other MMO's have jacked up their lvl cap and dramatically dropped their lvling speed to prevent that, they can update and add content in almost the same speed that people can reach that, alah giving new content all the time, keeping the game fresh.


Now WoW has its good points and bad points, but lets not all B1tch at eachother because one has had too much WoW and the other hasn't had enough and now their opinions vary

now get along kiddies
and i think im done now :3

See...The guy above."No fresh content" Just because he cant reach the lvl cap and qq.Only 25 ppl have Killed The Hardest boss In WoW.Even them cannot say they have done everything.With every patch classes Change New Epics are introduced.