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Brain
08-23-2007, 12:08 AM
Hey gyus,
I wanna buy a paintball gun but I dont have much experience in buying them (none to be precise) I wanna buy one and start paintballin'. I dont want anything to expensive and "professional". I just want something thatl shoot and wont break.
Any suggestions... Thanks.

hiboy2004
08-23-2007, 12:32 AM
What price range are you looking at? $40-$100? 100-200? 200+

Paintball guns come in all shapes and prices. Just a rough estimate would be nice. :)

KillaKitty
08-23-2007, 12:37 AM
for 200$ (may have gone down) but you can get a ion shoots 17bps has auto can usse
c02 or n2(i HIGHLY recamend n2 cuase c02 likes to screwe up the innards of your gun)
any thing less pretty mmuch sucks spyders.....suck.....but thats what i think i have a ion and love it. great gun

Brain
08-23-2007, 12:44 AM
Probably $40-100 is a good price range for me. Or I can wait till my birthday for the ion :P

Ska-Boy
08-23-2007, 12:57 AM
Dude, go airsoft. I mean, I like paintballing more than airsoft but it's a pain to clean, the guns get screwed up and it costs much MUCH more.

hiboy2004
08-23-2007, 03:10 AM
For $100 from the right places, you can get a decent Spyder. Spyder's don't suck, Ion's are just better. :P

Spyders also look awsome, feast on these puppies:

http://www.spyder.tv/newsletter/images/vsseries_launch/vs3_angle_sm.jpg

http://www.paintballerz.com/products/images/GP005.jpg

*Edit*

Take a look around on this page. Find something you like. :)

http://jerryspaintball.com/paintball_guns_under_99.99.htm

Spirit
08-23-2007, 03:15 AM
I want to airsoft rather then paintballling. Airsofting looks more real IMO. Somepeople say it feels more real also. Anyone care to explain the pros and cons to Airsoft and Paintball?

Fieren
08-23-2007, 03:26 AM
I want to airsoft rather then paintballling. Airsofting looks more real IMO. Somepeople say it feels more real also. Anyone care to explain the pros and cons to Airsoft and Paintball?Though paintballs do sting, the smaller size of an airsoft lets it nab you pretty good, even with protection. Still, both are fun for the sadistic sport that is a gunfight. Nothing beats overpowering a chubby kid in a paintball field, then shooting his feet when he tries to run.

hksmrchan
08-23-2007, 03:29 AM
i got a paintball gun and the box said ACCURATE! and when i got home, i tried to shoot it at the chair in my backyard, but it fell down before it went 5 feet... and broke it within the first week

i hate those asian fake toys that are not good, i needed new tennis balls, my dad was like.. no lemme get you some! and he got me un branded balls that barley bounce

TheRequiem
08-23-2007, 03:33 AM
Paintguns are like Rugby

They think Rugby is for real men.
I don't think Breaking a leg means your a man.

Paintball can get into your eye and your gone for.

Fieren
08-23-2007, 03:41 AM
Paintguns are like Rugby

They think Rugby is for real men.
I don't think Breaking a leg means your a man.

Paintball can get into your eye and your gone for.
You actually play without goggles or a helmet?

TheRequiem
08-23-2007, 03:42 AM
You actually play without goggles or a helmet?

No, I mean what if there are some dumbasses who do that, or if they're goggles slip off.

Fieren
08-23-2007, 03:44 AM
No, I mean what if there are some dumbasses who do that, or if they're goggles slip off.Ah, then I shall rephrase for you.

Paintballing, is like rugby. You either play it like rugby, or you play a game of grab ***.

TheRequiem
08-23-2007, 03:47 AM
Ah, then I shall rephrase for you.

Paintballing, is like rugby. You either play it like rugby, or you play a game of grab ***.

Grab ***! grab ***!!! grab asssss!!!!!!!!!

shevrock
08-23-2007, 04:04 AM
airsoft is better and cheaper. go to http://www.realistictoyguns.com/

they sell great guns at great prices.

BoomThunda
08-23-2007, 04:09 AM
Ah, then I shall rephrase for you.

Paintballing, is like rugby. You either play it like rugby, or you play a game of grab ***.

I prefer both~ Metaphors and similes are sexy~ So is this little squiggly line~ Okay well I'm going to go spend the night at my friend's house *last epic Boom post of the night*

Manic
08-23-2007, 08:04 AM
airsoft is better and cheaper. go to http://www.realistictoyguns.com/

they sell great guns at great prices.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No, seriously, LOL.

Need it again?

LOL

Airsofting is NOT cheap unless you plan on playing with springer pistols and LPEGs like those on that website. Oh, and by the way, check their BBB report, chances are it's absolutely abysmal. My suggestion? Shop ONLY at Airsoft Extreme or Airsoft GI, by far two of THE best stores I have EVER dealt with both online and in their walk-in stores.

Now, time for my airsoft rant.

[soapbox]Airsofting is not a simple sport, there are many facets, many ways to play, and many things to know before you get into the sport. The first? What exactly IS an airsoft gun?

Well, your standard springer is nothing more than a piston and a spring with a very cheap trigger assembly. Spring rifles on the other hand, can be a whole different monster. Generally used by people who fool themselves into thinking they can be a sniper (of which there is NO such thing in airsoft, and I'll explain why later). All spring powered airsoft guns are bolt action, there is no semi-automatic or automatic spring pistol or rifle to be bought because they simply do not exist. Spring pistols are just horrible. There is no denying it. Sure, they're fun for playing with your buddies in your backyard if you'd like to be a dumbass and risk having Johnny Law halfway up your *** before you can say hello, but otherwise, their use is limited to plinking around. Spring rifles on the other hand can be very upgradeable, but very expensive and hard to use. In order to achieve the 400 feet per second with a .2 gram BB that most websites will claim even the cheapest of rifles can achieve while bone-stock, you will need to invest in a new spring, spring guide, trigger assembly, tightbore barrel, and much more. The spring alone limits their use to only the the kind of player who doesn't sit around playing video games all day. Why? Well, a spring that will have you firing with that power will have a 40 to 50lb pull, and even then you wouldn't have any advantage whatsoever over a moderately upgraded AEG. Get in the range of an M140 spring to be firing around 500 with a .2 BB, and you will have a 70 to 80lb pull on the bolt. Generally not an easy thing to be cocking all day long. The main advantage of spring weapons is their reliability. They are not, unlike gas weapons, affected by temperature. You will be firing consistently in all but windy weather. Survivability, however, is something else entirely. Using a heavy spring can be punishing to a rifle, and more often than not dictates heavy maintenance after every game in order to keep your gun at tip-top shape.

Spring guns aren't the only kind though, there are also gas guns. Gas weapons encompass everything in both classic and modern airsoft, from semi-automatic pistols, to bolt action rifles, to fully automatic support weapons. The mechanics of gas rifles is not something that can be explained on one page considering the many uses of it and the techniques of propelling your plastic pellets in the right direction. The thing to know about gas weapons is what kind of gas you're using. HFC134a is considered to be one of the more reliable gases due to it's low power output and thus gun-friendly use. HFC134a will not damage your weapon, and is the favored gas in Japan and mainland China due to local laws. Next up the line is green gas, more commonly used in warmer environments due to it's impressive power. Most fields will only allow the use of green gas in semi-automatic and bolt action weapons only due to the power it can achieve, up to 450 feet per second with your standard .2 BB. Next up the line is CO2, by far the most dangerous to be using for both personal safety and gun safety, a weapon not specifically upgraded to handle CO2 will not last one shot on it. CO2 is very punishing, but very powerful. Now it's time to talk about the system that guns use to deliver the gas. Most will generally use gas reservoirs located within the magazines, or shells, of airsoft weapons. Some however, mostly classic guns, use an external reservoir much like one used in paintball. The downside of gas is that it is VERY easily affected by temperature. Your beautiful Tanaka M24 may be firing a consistent 550 feet per second on a warm summer day, but take it out in the winter and you could be reduced to around 300, depending on the temperature. This is the same for all gases.

Nest in line are electric weapons. There are two kinds, LPEGs (low power electric guns, or low price, both being the same generally), and AEGs (automatic electric guns). LPEGs, the like of which are sold in places such as Jungle Toy, the site listed above, AirSplat, and the likes, will NOT put up the kind of power they claim. LPEGs have such a poor reputation simply because of the way they are put together. They will almost always have plastic bodies (which isn't really important considering that does nothing but add weight), nylon gears, nylon bushing, plastic pistons and piston heads, low power motors, weak springs, and more. They offer poor performance for a cheap price. DO NOT be fooled by what websites claim, they are NEVER as good as the fake statistics you will find anywhere on the internet. AEGs on the other hand, are the cream of the crop in the opinion of most, offering the ability to play any role one wishes so long as they are built appropriately. They will range anywhere from $250 to $1500, or more (upgrading alone can run you another $1000 or so if you're not doing the work yourself). Names you'll want to know are Tokyo Marui, Classic Army, G&G, G&P, Inokatsu, VFC, and several others.

I've barely even skimmed the surface of what airsoft guns are, do your research if you really want to know. As far as play styles, they range from just running around like a maniac in jeans and a t-shirt, to full military simulation. Being an avid MilSim lover, this is the kind of thing that people imagine and see when they hear of airsoft. Running around dressed in BDUs and tac-gear, this is by far the most expensive form of airsoft. Depending on how much you're willing to spend, a decent chest rig alone can cost anywhere from $100 to $2000, and that's just to hold everything you can't put in your pockets. It is dirty, it is tiring, but it is fun. The bare minimum for most fields would be a weapon that can fire a .2g BB at least 300 feet per second if you wish to compete. Most fields will allow no more than 400FPS with a .2 for automatic weapons, 500-550 for semi and bolt.

You know what? I'm not typing anymore. I'm tired! Two websites I suggest are arniesairsoft.co.uk and socalairsoft.com

Both are full of helpful and knowledgeable people (socal being the less user friendly due to it's elitist users). Have fun, I'm going to sleep.

Ramstien
08-23-2007, 10:46 AM
The only reason I'd get an airsoft was so I could take it out in school and people would shit their pants everywhere.

I would LOL so ****ing hard.

Brain
08-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Thanks for the airsoft information but I think Im gonna stick to paintball. Or I can do what Ramstein would do :D

soe1
08-23-2007, 11:00 AM
if you go to sports authority.. they sell paintball gun that has the EXACT modeling of m4a1.. its black shiney too and is heavy like the real one, costs like.. 400$

as for your airsoft cheap crap.. your prolly talking about springs.. what is springs? the one you have to pull back for every pellet.

Brain
08-23-2007, 11:08 AM
I prefer gas more than spring.

Sashimi
08-23-2007, 11:20 AM
Airsoft looks very fun.

Brain
08-23-2007, 11:47 AM
What do you mean by airsoft looks funny!?

Oisterboy
08-23-2007, 12:21 PM
I used to have a Spyder or something like that I picked up at Walmart. It was pretty badass...then my dad backed over it with the truck. >_>

If you lived in Upstate NY, I have a friend that stole a whole pallet of them, and is selling them off. Lol.

Manic
08-23-2007, 04:50 PM
if you go to sports authority.. they sell paintball gun that has the EXACT modeling of m4a1.. its black shiney too and is heavy like the real one, costs like.. 400$

as for your airsoft cheap crap.. your prolly talking about springs.. what is springs? the one you have to pull back for every pellet.

Exact? Hold a real steel Colt M4 and say again that it's an exact replica.

Thanks for the airsoft information but I think Im gonna stick to paintball. Or I can do what Ramstein would do :D

Oh yeah, have fun with that, I'm sure a class C felony is always fun in the end. Yes, a felony. Airsoft guns are not classified by the law as replicas or model toys, but as air guns. Short and sweet, you will be charged exactly the same as if you had pulled out a real weapon in school.

Whatever you end up doing, just wear eye protection, please. Not some cheap goggles you bought at Walmart, make sure the lenses are ANSI Z87.1 approved.

Spirit
08-23-2007, 06:03 PM
I think I'll get into Airsoft. Paintballing just seems soo, un-realistic.

Shynobi22
08-23-2007, 07:42 PM
My uncle can't see through one eye because of these shyts. *shakes fist angrily*

kcool
08-23-2007, 11:18 PM
wow i want one i wud shoot randomly outside my window

Stabkiller0
08-23-2007, 11:19 PM
I never actually tried playing Paintball. Gotta do that sometime.

Manic
08-24-2007, 12:20 AM
The two sports are entirely different from each other, so comparing them is totally useless. Try them both out, see what you like more, and have fun.

TheRequiem
08-24-2007, 12:21 AM
The two sports are entirely different from each other, so comparing them is totally useless. Try them both out, see what you like more, and have fun.

Try the real thing..and die. Should I just say..eat bullets and die?

hiboy2004
08-24-2007, 03:00 AM
The only people who play Airsoft here in Owensboro are either extreme die-hard players, or nerds who thought they could be like on CS:S.

Anyway, Airsoft is more realistic, but Paintball, in my opinion, is funner. You run and duck, shoot a little, cover your buddy as he dives for better position, ultimatley working to own your enemy. We always played is CTF, which is so much more intense. Play in CTF in the wood's with deer-stands. It's frigging intense if you are a decent shot.

So IMO, Paintball > Airsoft