Ok then here it goes I am looking for an mmorpg that is F2P forever and has a decent-good pvp system that is not based ENTIRELY on gear but it can be kinda half and half.

I also would like it to not have a 2 month grind like World of Warcraft can be and also not point and click to move. I would prefer it to be fantasy with swords/bows/magic not futuristic and have several classes to choose from. If any of you played WoW you will remember its PvP system(if you pvped) although gear helped a lot you could still kill someone in higher gear if you got crits/were quick on your feet thats what I meant by half-half gear/skill.

I am going to go ahead and list a few games I don't want listed.\

Rakion
Gunz
Maplestory
Legend Of Ares
Guild wars
RYL 2

Any other then those with a decent pvp system im willing to look at it can be auto-attack obviously... but yeah give it a whirl guys lets see what you can cook up:)

suggestions anyone?

please don't double post, anywayz if u don't mind mech-type games try http://atc-raycrash.net

Im not really into the whole gundam type thing thanks for the link though I might try Legend of Ares but im not sure how long the grind is and if you can change it so you can move with WASD keys.

hm u can try cabal online...

Guild Wars is mainly PvP.

Ah I have GW, problem with guild wars is the pvp imo is slow killing in some ways plus it plays like a diablo where you can only kill one or 2 monsters alone generally I just find the game boring im wondering about Legend of Ares but im not sure how long the leveling is plus id want to change the mouse moving to WASD moving if at all possible but I can't even try it due to the fact that verify ID button is broke and says function.--construct] I click on the link and it says this page is not available....

Basically im looking for an mmorpg with pvp where you don't auto-follow your target basically something like a free moving mmorpg like WoWs would be except not as advanced probably because free games content usually doesn't exceed a million player multi-national game:P

where you can only kill one or 2 monsters alone generally

I thought you said you wanted PvP??

with pvp where you don't auto-follow your target

I wouldn't call it auto-follow I'd call it doing the most logical thing for you... You see if you are in a real fight you generally follow your opponent unless your a moron or your loosing... either way I guess your intitled to your opinion and GL finding a free MMO that you don't auto follow.

Uh......... ShadowBane Is Free and mainly PvP :) Andwtf Is That AutoFollow Part?

watermarginonline is free and there u have PvP www.108.com.my

ragnarok online

To clarify about LoA, it has WASD movement. The grinding is very quick as long as you aren't a weak-a** archer. I haven't PvPed in it, but I hear the PvP is good. Also, please don't flame me about archer thing if you don't think archers are weak. I am basing it on personal experience, and for all I know, I'm a terrible archer.