View Full Version : WAR: RvR Changes & Career Mastery info
cyber7chink
01-24-2008, 06:48 PM
The more I watch these guys, the more I want to play WAR. It seems that both, PvE and RvR, has effects on the realm. Watch the vids for some interesting information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQiVJ6cHmuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpid6-10us
Feel free to discuss. Trolls will be quartered and used as seat covers.
Seige engines....*drool*
Warlordrody
01-24-2008, 07:00 PM
This game looks sooo haaawt
Cant wait for it :) Looks so awesome.
cyber7chink
01-24-2008, 07:10 PM
This game looks sooo haaawt
The more I read on the game, the more I am waiting on my friends to join in.
I like the fact that the guild who seizes the location, gets to display their herald and that PvE and open world RvR effects Victory Points.
ArcDevil
01-24-2008, 07:28 PM
all zones can be conquered, and every zone matters for victory points. also PvE will have PvP aims (like kill 10 of this this orc clan seizing our frontiers) that will also have impact in PvP.
and i'd like to know more about siege weapons (if they ran out of ammo,if they harm friends and foes equally,etc etc)
WAR is awesome
Avager
01-24-2008, 07:37 PM
Yes, Warhammer will beat WoW to the ground... smashing it face without any problem. RvR just owns, so many RvR modes, quests are also producing some kind of victory points, grinding etc etc...
I can't wait for it...
But so far, I will buy Starcraft 2 first...
cyber7chink
01-24-2008, 08:44 PM
One of the first characters I will be creating will be a Squig Herder.
I still wished they had Skaven in its release.
Icharou
01-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Wow that sounds very good! I can't wait for WAR..:(
DK.DonkeyKong
01-24-2008, 09:04 PM
i was still not sure as to wether i'd drop wow and play war, it's all clear now though XO Want to play !!!!!
cyber7chink
01-24-2008, 09:16 PM
i was still not sure as to wether i'd drop wow and play war, it's all clear now though XO Want to play !!!!!I am glad I can clear some things up for you. I know of 12 PvP guilds who are leaving WoW for WAR. There are more than that though.
From what I have read over the net, in the WoW forums, and other private sources, the RvR in WAR is going to steal huge amount of the PvP realm players from WoW. What is funny, is these players are the same ones who left DAoC for WoW cause of some changes. Now they cant wait to convert once again.
ArcDevil
01-24-2008, 09:27 PM
no wonder,the spanish and english official fansites for WAR have around 40% WoW players
i dont know wheter to be happy or not...on one hand,WAR will have a warm welcome and a high population.
on the other hand i'd rather have an underpopulated game than WoW's community, any day of the week.
DK.DonkeyKong
01-24-2008, 09:27 PM
I am glad I can clear some things up for you. I know of 12 PvP guilds who are leaving WoW for WAR. There are more than that though.
From what I have read over the net, in the WoW forums, and other private sources, the RvR in WAR is going to steal huge amount of the PvP realm players from WoW. What is funny, is these players are the same ones who left DAoC for WoW cause of some changes. Now they cant wait to convert once again.
Yup a lot of people in my BT raid guild (not rading bt myself) have decided to move to WAR :) I'm one of them
Attila
01-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Damn it cyber :(
You're gonna make me kick your ass with my priest of Sigmar :(
I thought we were brothers! *sniff* :(
hyarume
01-24-2008, 09:46 PM
WAR wants to do an HIGHER montly fee than 15 DOLLAR .. and it looks like Just another wow
cyber7chink
01-24-2008, 09:48 PM
Damn it cyber :(
You're gonna make me kick your ass with my priest of Sigmar :(
I thought we were brothers! *sniff* :(????
I have quite few characters I am wanting to build. Dont forget, I played Warhammer ever since mid to late 1980's. I have played and been a GM for the game. I would turn the world into a realm that looks like something out of the minds of H.P. Lovecraft, H.R. Giger, E. A. Poe, and Clive Barker....combined
When I seen the designs, the enviroment, and everything else it felt like it was pulled out of my morbid games.
I have put gamer against gamer in the RPG, tainted them with the corruption of chaos and power. So.... I am wanting to feel the chaos and carnage.
Then after that......a Dwarven Engineer named Khorrick Steeljaw(my first Warhammer character) will be on the scene.
WAR wants to do an HIGHER montly fee than 15 DOLLAR .. and it looks like Just another wowFailure to comprehend.
WoW doesnt have any similarities to WAR. The PvP is not based on greed (WoW), the system is not based on gear, and the game is not a bi-polar ass fuck that doesnt know if its going to be PvP or PvE. If you made a decent MMORPG, you would not need to continualy balance PvP.
Latest crybabies are forcing the hunters to be nerfed. Whos next?
DK.DonkeyKong
01-24-2008, 10:02 PM
????
I have quite few characters I am wanting to build. Dont forget, I played Warhammer ever since mid to late 1980's. I have played and been a GM for the game. I would turn the world into a realm that looks like something out of the minds of H.P. Lovecraft, H.R. Giger, E. A. Poe, and Clive Barker....combined
When I seen the designs, the enviroment, and everything else it felt like it was pulled out of my morbid games.
I have put gamer against gamer in the RPG, tainted them with the corruption of chaos and power. So.... I am wanting to feel the chaos and carnage.
Then after that......a Dwarven Engineer named Khorrick Steeljaw(my first Warhammer character) will be on the scene.
Failure to comprehend.
WoW doesnt have any similarities to WAR. The PvP is not based on greed (WoW), the system is not based on gear, and the game is not a bi-polar ass fuck that doesnt know if its going to be PvP or PvE. If you made a decent MMORPG, you would not need to continualy balance PvP.
Latest crybabies are forcing the hunters to be nerfed. Whos next?
ooooofftopic
Damn hunters, it's ok fighting them when they are alone (1on1) but as soon as they get a teammate they're unstoppable :3
Jacts
01-24-2008, 10:03 PM
well game does sound interesting i assume ill give it a shot whenever i get around to it
hyarume
01-24-2008, 10:04 PM
I said LOOKS..
But anyway im ok with 15dollar a month(HAS TO BE PRETTY GOOD THO) but more? no way..
i read about the higher fee on mmosite
DK.DonkeyKong
01-24-2008, 10:06 PM
I said LOOKS..
But anyway im ok with 15dollar a month(HAS TO BE PRETTY GOOD THO) but more? no way..
i read about the higher fee on mmosite
Have i told you guys how much i hate mmosite XO?
Jacts
01-24-2008, 10:06 PM
lol 15 dollars a month isnt bad. Most of the good games are 15+ a month lol
hyarume
01-24-2008, 10:10 PM
nah read better i said higher than.. 15 dollar is normal fee right?
I LOVE mmosite exept the forums..
PORN STARS TALK ABOUT GAMES LOLZ.. <thats off topic>
Jacts
01-24-2008, 10:12 PM
lol higher than 15 isnt much either i spend more than 100 bucks each week on manga lol so does it matter?
cyber7chink
01-24-2008, 10:16 PM
Have i told you guys how much i hate mmosite XO?True, MMOsite is a bunch of poorly educated children with no real experience, and most of their "reliable sources" are half ass or false. The rest of the news they have is second hand material ripped from another site. Their community loaded with pedophiles and pervs.
As for the monthly fee of WAR? Its not going to be higher than the avg P2P price. Mythic is not as greedy as Sony.
refraxion
01-24-2008, 10:18 PM
At the end of the day, we'll see if this will do good or not financially, and player-wise.
hyarume
01-24-2008, 10:19 PM
Hmm.. and onrpg isnt?
Lolz.. i like mmosite, why?
they have nice stuff.. guides maps screens vids.. news contests..' i like that..
meowmeow
01-24-2008, 11:07 PM
their marketing department rules.
ArcDevil
01-24-2008, 11:16 PM
WAR is worth 30 bucks per month
if we get cheaper (very likely) its just profit for us
Jacts
01-24-2008, 11:17 PM
30 dollars a month i wouldnt pay that much for a game when i can just pay 50 and have it forever lol most id pay a month is about 22-25 dollars
cyber7chink
01-25-2008, 12:15 AM
I would be happy if they offered a lifetime membership like Turbine did for LoTR. If they offered a lifetime membership for $300, I would pay for it. Hell I payed $200 for LoTR.
OT: I would like to see a Mastery chart for each class.
Redcomet
01-25-2008, 02:36 AM
Yea this is gonna Dent A Hole in WoW population.
Until those beta testers STOP QQing abt Imbalance So that They can release the bloody game.
The new WoW expansion dosent have anything good for new players at all.
which means that they would start With WAR rather than WOW.
Nakamura
01-25-2008, 02:44 AM
let's not turn this thread into another wow-quarrel, nothing can best wow financially until it passes the 10 million subscriber mark.
definitely excited for WAR...Q2 2008? Is that like..SUMMER?
First though i'm gonna blow $50 on AoC to see how it is...then give myself a good 3-4 months of window for all-out-WAR.
muzicguru
01-25-2008, 02:56 AM
Yea this is gonna Dent A Hole in WoW population.
Until those beta testers STOP QQing abt Imbalance So that They can release the bloody game.
The new WoW expansion dosent have anything good for new players at all.
which means that they would start With WAR rather than WOW.
It would be better for them to work out these imbalance's. It seems to me that this is gonna be a huge thing for PVPer's and there is nothing more annoying than an over powered class in a MMO.
Thanks for sharing these videos. I am looking forward to this very very much. Though I don't really like forking out money for games, but I will for this.
Raiyne
01-25-2008, 07:26 AM
"Battery Rams~!"
Oh god the PvP sounds awesome already. I'm so excited for the open PvP, something WoW really screwed up with TBC.
I sure hope they're gonna release it much later on in 2008. I'm gonna play this game like a madman once my final year exams are over.
replicant
01-25-2008, 07:46 AM
Played DAOC awhile and loved it. I still do. As long as we see less AOE CC, then I am all for WAR. DAOC > WoW when it comes to PvP in all respects. Been interested in WAR since it was first announced. I did here that WAR was gonna be a little higher than $15 a month to play, but you also got full access to DAOC as well. We'll see how it goes in the end however.
Ryokucha
01-25-2008, 10:20 AM
I did here that WAR was gonna be a little higher than $15 a month to play, but you also got full access to DAOC as well. We'll see how it goes in the end however.
I sure hope they don't make some crazy price plan system, such as LOTR or Vanguard did.
Either way this game is worth it, they are really taking their time in the balance department, might mean more delay, but that is a good thing.
TrayDay
01-25-2008, 10:23 AM
I am so loving the keeps, I see most of my time played is most certainly going to be in the PVP no doubt about it. And I would be damned if they released the game with an overly powered class. I would love for them to continue working on the game to make sure imbalance is not part of the game. $15+ still isn't that bad of a bargain, Considering all that w are getting for it.
lothia
01-25-2008, 10:27 AM
Sounds tight, I was totally hoping he would say u cannot respec. I just wanted to see a game where the first to the top level arent neccisarly the best. I really really was hoping LOL.
ArcDevil
01-25-2008, 11:05 AM
Sounds tight, I was totally hoping he would say u cannot respec. I just wanted to see a game where the first to the top level arent neccisarly the best. I really really was hoping LOL.
there are dozens of character skills plus dozens of talent skills plus dozens of tactic skills plus dozens of moral skills
without respecs it would take you around 50 chars to max just to know which skills are good and which a mistake taking.
and then one new char to make the right build
games without respecs are for the 90's era. nowadays its just stupid.make using a respec hard, like a very complicated/long quest,or a truly expensive amount of money...but no respecs at all = failure.
cyber7chink
01-25-2008, 12:37 PM
there are dozens of character skills plus dozens of talent skills plus dozens of tactic skills plus dozens of moral skills
without respecs it would take you around 50 chars to max just to know which skills are good and which a mistake taking.
and then one new char to make the right build
games without respecs are for the 90's era. nowadays its just stupid.make using a respec hard, like a very complicated/long quest,or a truly expensive amount of money...but no respecs at all = failure. I do agree that respec should featured in.
I know many people who played a MMORPG used up stat points and skill points just to find out that what they did a few levels ago just made things crappy for them, attempt to re-roll the character, and just quit due to boredom of repetition.
hyarume
01-25-2008, 03:51 PM
Im still more hyped about aion lolz..
Rokurosv
01-25-2008, 04:29 PM
Ok i'm still a little bit confused about the whole mastery thing :)
The keep system is awesome, hopefully they'll put some wicked AI in the guards to make things more interesting, and siege weapons......what more can be said.
And this totally beats aion XD
Warlordrody
01-25-2008, 04:33 PM
Dammit i am surely going to buy and pay for this game.
Rokurosv
01-25-2008, 04:37 PM
I'm gonna be a Witch Hunter! Damm you cyber7chink for posting this! You made me wanna play this even more
cyber7chink
01-25-2008, 06:07 PM
I'm gonna be a Witch Hunter! Damm you cyber7chink for posting this! You made me wanna play this even more
I have been damned for a long time...........glad to be of service.
What I cant wait for is some of the other classes to come into play (if they release more from the Warhammer RPG).
I would love to see the Goblin Fanatics. They are basically suicidal priests.
I still want Skaven though. Skaven Assassins and Ratogres FTW!!!
Rokurosv
01-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Black Orc looks fun too, oh how i loved orks in Dawn of War
cyber7chink
01-25-2008, 06:25 PM
Black Orc looks fun too, oh how i loved orks in Dawn of WarThen you will like it if they make an expansion where you have to travel to the planet Gorkamorka. Its a wasteland planet where the dominant population is greenskins. Think Mad Max meets Greenskins.
clid21
01-25-2008, 06:36 PM
im interested the most in their mastery system like just how i loved wow for their talent trees making u branch off to be different and unique unless u looked online for a preset tree that pwns -.- and the game does give u more of a role in the world than WoW so i may have to stop playing WoW and start playing War xD dam jooo cyber7chink!!!
Raziel21
01-25-2008, 06:57 PM
:drool: Holy Crap this game "Pisses Excellence". Too bad I don't pay to play :(
Rokurosv
01-25-2008, 07:00 PM
Then you will like it if they make an expansion where you have to travel to the planet Gorkamorka. Its a wasteland planet where the dominant population is greenskins. Think Mad Max meets Greenskins.
ZOmg!!! I is in Greensking heaven!!!!. DAMM YOU!!!!!!
hyarume
01-25-2008, 07:03 PM
I only P2p if the game is worthey eneugh to me.. Only game that ALMOST made me pay but went f2p before i could are.
Sword of the new..
cyber7chink
01-25-2008, 07:16 PM
I only P2p if the game is worthey eneugh to me.. Only game that ALMOST made me pay but went f2p before i could are.
Sword of the new.. LMAO... you have low expectations then. You seem like a botter fan to me. Go figure.
I like games where it takes a good group or community to make a difference on your side of the coin. Not just "auto" and then go to sleep.
Thats the main thing I like about the concept of WAR. Its more about the realm and side more than the individual. This is where many games fail...ok almost every game fail. The only games I found where a party, guild, or faction mattered in the game and it wasnt based on individual greed was LoTR, DDo, DAoC, and GW.
And now.......... WAR!
.Katie
01-25-2008, 07:22 PM
How much of the game IS PvP? Is there still a good amount of PvE?
clid21
01-25-2008, 07:31 PM
im guessing this game will balance out pvp and pve that way the other one doesnt play a more over role then the other one lets face it if this game was built pvp wise that wouldn be fair >.> the massive army will win
Cynical
01-25-2008, 09:43 PM
i laugh because i know all the wowboyz that are talking about how they are gonna get this game when it comes out are going to hate it.
its NOT i repeat NOT WoW in set in the warhammer universe.
if you have ever played Dark Age of Camelot then you might get an idea of what this game will be like.
but all these kids come into other mmos like this one thats going to be coming out thinking its going to be just like wow.
and its not.
and i still cant wait fo rthis game.
cyber7chink
01-26-2008, 02:37 AM
i laugh because i know all the wowboyz that are talking about how they are gonna get this game when it comes out are going to hate it.
its NOT i repeat NOT WoW in set in the warhammer universe.
if you have ever played Dark Age of Camelot then you might get an idea of what this game will be like.
but all these kids come into other mmos like this one thats going to be coming out thinking its going to be just like wow.
and its not.
and i still cant wait fo rthis game.They said the same thing about LoTR online. Sad little peons.
I know the truth.......
Nothing about WoW was original, and its character designs were stolen from Warhammer.
Bah!!!!
I want to make this toy.....
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s248/cyber7chink/dw_armor_engineer5.jpg
Dwarven Engineer FTW!!!!!!
clid21
01-26-2008, 03:32 AM
i think u should replace the text that says place goblin here and make it place wow fan boy here xD (funny cause im one lol) still cant wait for this game to come out!!!1
lothia
01-26-2008, 04:15 AM
i personally believe that respec should be rare because then you have those mistake characters
It also gives later starting players a good chance to be as good as those who started early. I guess I hate games where people figure out what the best combo is and then EVERYONE has those specs. I like it when people actually have to work for those specs and to figure out what is good.
Rokurosv
01-26-2008, 04:41 AM
Respecs should be obtainable by everybody, of course not everytime you want it, and if they said they are gonna work on the cost, perhaps it's gonna be a long and ardous road to that respec
Zynosphere
01-26-2008, 04:57 AM
this game is going to be amazing. and lmfao @ cyber, dwarven enginnering is the shit lol. anyone have any idea what the system requirements is?
csfeen
01-26-2008, 05:01 AM
rvr..
anyway sounds very fun
clid21
01-26-2008, 05:28 AM
this game is going to be amazing. and lmfao @ cyber, dwarven enginnering is the shit lol. anyone have any idea what the system requirements is?
from the way this game is minimum requirements = uber xD
probably 512 ram minimum with a graphics card that supports at least 32mb and probably direct x9 but i think ppl will find a way to play with 8 just fine heh if this game has anti aliasing ima fall in love with it the minute i turn on the option.
Herrium
01-26-2008, 09:27 AM
Yes, Warhammer will beat WoW to the ground... smashing it face without any problem. RvR just owns, so many RvR modes, quests are also producing some kind of victory points, grinding etc etc...
I can't wait for it...
But so far, I will buy Starcraft 2 first...
Well, this could possibly happen, the people making WAR, Mythic, helped develop DAoC, the game that made RvR what it is today. It looks sweet, but it's getting to the point where if they push it back more, it could be all hype, but that's just speculation.
cyber7chink
01-26-2008, 10:29 AM
from the way this game is minimum requirements = uber xD
probably 512 ram minimum with a graphics card that supports at least 32mb and probably direct x9 but i think ppl will find a way to play with 8 just fine heh if this game has anti aliasing ima fall in love with it the minute i turn on the option.
I would say their requirements will be close to LoTR requirements. They may be higher though.
leathel
01-26-2008, 10:45 AM
omg i used to be a really big fan of warhammer and i never read up on this game thanks alot for the info im now gonna be checking up on this game every few weeks since i have been looking for a "real" mmorpg for ages...... this looks dare i say .... perfect (i am a big pvp fan) :D
refraxion
01-26-2008, 11:23 AM
Either way, I'd be able to run this game silky smooth.
Unplayed
01-26-2008, 11:27 AM
hehehe seems like pvp will be an enchanted DAoC type ^^
no idea why people say wows pvp is "godlike" when they didnt even have experienced one relic war in daoc -.- ... first capture the keep with rams and other seige instruments and then go for the relic keep which is heavily guarded and mostly full of enemy realm players
thats just so much more than wow has to offer pvp wise.
at the beginning wow was quite fun when there was open pvp and you where allowed to raid the enemy cities but the changes just made it boring. after all now wow pvp is more like the 1-man-(with the most time to farm the equips)-charges-in-to-kill-everything-in-sight kind of pvp = /
many of the daoc top pvp guilds went from daoc to wow because bliz promised back then that it was able to capture the enemy capital .. but you see whats the pvp in wow is like at the end ... so most of the players quitted wow by now ^^
clid21
01-26-2008, 04:35 PM
I would say their requirements will be close to LoTR requirements. They may be higher though.
do happen to know by any chance if their gonna make customization a more in depth like LOTR and Perfect World did?
Unplayed
01-26-2008, 05:53 PM
hmm as far as i remember there were 2 points for big customisation points:
1. you can see every piece of equip
2. the char will grow as you lvl up (for example: lvl 1 dwarf = super small beard, max lvl dwarf = huuge beard. Same goes for Orcs: lvl 1 orc = smaaaaal, lvl 50 orc = big bad orczaz ^^)
about the other things idk :(
im sry, hope i helped you at least a little :)
clid21
01-26-2008, 06:57 PM
thats actually pretty cool its that the only thing i fear is running into many ppl who like me
Mordar
01-26-2008, 07:52 PM
2. the char will grow as you lvl up (for example: lvl 1 dwarf = super small beard, max lvl dwarf = huuge beard. Same goes for Orcs: lvl 1 orc = smaaaaal, lvl 50 orc = big bad orczaz ^^)
LOL imagine a chaos...lvl 1= very good looking human, lvl 50 = horrible deformated non-human kind of being
anyway, warhammer promises so much for us old-schoolers DaoC players, man, I wish the monthly fee is not that high, here in venezuela even paying LOTRO is a pain in the ass....
cyber7chink
01-26-2008, 08:49 PM
LOL imagine a chaos...lvl 1= very good looking human, lvl 50 = horrible deformated non-human kind of being
anyway, warhammer promises so much for us old-schoolers DaoC players, man, I wish the monthly fee is not that high, here in venezuela even paying LOTRO is a pain in the ass....Imagine The Chosen........
Mordar
01-26-2008, 10:30 PM
Imagine The Chosen........
and let's not begin with the zealots and oh..marauders XD (the class I'll be playing along with the witch hunteer)
Darksin
01-26-2008, 10:40 PM
It won't take long till the private server will be up -_-" when WoW was released it took them 7 days and there were like 9 servers already o.O
refraxion
01-26-2008, 11:09 PM
It won't take long till the private server will be up -_-" when WoW was released it took them 7 days and there were like 9 servers already o.O
If it is popular enough there will be, if it isnt, then nope. I'll try the game when it comes out though, see what all this overrated hype is all about.
Sabertooth77
01-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but these were the same plans they had DAOC back in 2002, but thier direction changed when they realized it the engine couldnt do what they wanted.
Its sounded more like DAOC 2 then a original idea. I loved DAOC, but do we really need a part 2? It took them ages to perfect DAOC, whiles basically on life support , its still has alot of room to grow.
If war comes out and is everything Daoc was + the new stuff , wont DAOC die?
Attila
01-27-2008, 02:20 AM
Who said anything about game being $30 a month?
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