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I am better than you
01-26-2008, 11:35 PM
... I did.
lol.
No, I'm being serious.
I really couldn't take it.
It was fun, but way too much grind.
Even hacking the game, my max level was 27.
Hacking it is a grind too...

hiboy2004
01-26-2008, 11:46 PM
Thats good for you. This topic fails. If they quit before level 20, would they still be here? Good question.


I'm going out on a limb and saying no. But fuck me if I'm wrong.

ThunderaWolf
01-27-2008, 12:00 AM
... I did.
lol.
No, I'm being serious.
I really couldn't take it.
It was fun, but way too much grind.
Even hacking the game, my max level was 27.
Hacking it is a grind too...
Please view 3:00-3:40 of this to get the point
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2326-Zero-Punctuation-Tabula-Rasa
ALL MMORPGS ARE GRIND TASTIC. and if they arn't you play them fobout a month hit the max level and then quit. without grind we wouldn't be playing them so long.

Anyways its most likely a kind of grind you don't like i think there are 2kinds of grinders those who like watching an thos who like doing, because maple story requires a bit less "watching(clicking on somehig and waiting) it seems more boring.

But we people here must enjoy it or why would we play?

(excuse typos still getting used to a laptop keyboard)

TofuKid
01-27-2008, 12:07 AM
If you can't stand girnd till lvl 20 in maplestory then thats just pathetic -_- For me fun starts at level 21 when you can do Kpq.

Thats were you make lots of friends that'll likely be your friends forever on the game.

Btw hacking a game makes you lazy and you often find yourself always complaining about the grind more.

Darkone121
01-27-2008, 12:44 AM
If you can't stand girnd till lvl 20 in maplestory then thats just pathetic -_- For me fun starts at level 21 when you can do Kpq.

Thats were you make lots of friends that'll likely be your friends forever on the game.

Btw hacking a game makes you lazy and you often find yourself always complaining about the grind more.

Yea but id rather hack and go outside and play, then to sit in your chair Nolifeing for over 5 hours :-/

But yea every game has a grind to it...theirs no doubt in that.

BabyXSoap
01-27-2008, 01:05 AM
lol nice i tried to make a warrior but i quit while i was looking for a name for it lmao.

Arctic
01-27-2008, 02:20 AM
I laugh at your name. And yes, getting past level 20 is easy.

ThunderaWolf
01-27-2008, 04:41 AM
Yea but id rather hack and go outside and play, then to sit in your chair Nolifeing for over 5 hours :-/

But yea every game has a grind to it...theirs no doubt in that.
"nolifeing?" like it or not they are DOING something, even if it won't matter later what you do outside for 5 hours could be "nolifing" too, unless you only consider nolifes computer people even though your defination would be they're not doing anything productive while you really arn't either.

oh and BTW hacking is illegal in the game D:

Darkone121
01-27-2008, 04:50 AM
"nolifeing?" like it or not they are DOING something, even if it won't matter later what you do outside for 5 hours could be "nolifing" too, unless you only consider nolifes computer people even though your defination would be they're not doing anything productive while you really arn't either.

oh and BTW hacking is illegal in the game D:

Of course hacking is illegal, so is download music and videos.

Also to me i do consider sitting on the computer with your face 3 inches away from the screen nolifeing. Sorry but thats me :-/

But then again outside cant really be consider Nolifeing, when you play Football or Bball, it could be considered good for your health, and a good excersize.

KyosukeKun29
01-27-2008, 04:52 AM
id much rather hack than train legitly.
grinding in maple burns hours of your life away just to get a number up on your character. its ridiculous.
id much rather leave my bot on and sleep away. Honestly.
i no u guys wud like that too, just admit it. shit.

Lefos
01-27-2008, 05:01 AM
id much rather hack than train legitly.
grinding in maple burns hours of your life away just to get a number up on your character. its ridiculous.
id much rather leave my bot on and sleep away. Honestly.
i no u guys wud like that too, just admit it. shit.

Or, you could admit that not everybody has the same mindset as you. Thanks.

I had a sense of accomplishment when I got my Page to level 60. It wasn't much, but I was somewhat proud of myself for sticking to some so damn boring for so damn long. These days I can't even get a single character to level 25 without giving up completely, though.

Nexon really needs to reduce the EXP curve or something. They'd probably get more players. Players that would spend MONEY. But then the community would go even further down the shitter, so its a win-lose situation.

maxlax
01-27-2008, 05:04 AM
so its a win-lose situation.

eh, it would be a win for me. The community could go fornicate itself with an iron stick for all i care ( cept for da cool pplz) the game is starting to get boring and im starting to regret paying 50 dollars for nx :-/

ZeroBlade
01-27-2008, 05:11 AM
Jeez, just let this troll bait out to pasture. -_-

Determination
01-27-2008, 05:39 AM
I could say if I were to start Maple right...now, I would probably quit before lvl 20. I do agree that they should do something about the lvling curve to reach the casual gamer and the "pick-up-and-play" gamers. Besides that, it's just annoying as holding on to a bar of soap. (very hard to do)

MapleStory has been out long enough now for the grinders to be high enough not to notice or care. I wouldn't blame anyone for quitting below lvl 20. I've recommended this game to some RL friends but, they all quit -_-

Jammart
01-27-2008, 06:20 AM
The OP was just stating his opinion of the game in a way (and place) that would provoke loyal players of the game. I think you guys overreacted a bit. It's true the grind in MS is more than your average f2p game..you can't deny that. Yes, grind may be a good thing but in that quantity it's just overdone.

If you just start playing MS for your first time, as everything is new and exciting I can see somebody getting past 20. Though I wouldn't be able to anymore. I've tried 4 times and stopped at 40 every time (always changing classes). I can't even get past the tutorial anymore. Anyways...just stop criticizing the OP, it's hopeless.

edit: By the way, I think somebody called him a troll? (might of been towards somebody else..sorry) He even stated that he enjoyed the game..he just stated his opinion. :\

Khriz
01-27-2008, 06:23 AM
Besides that, it's just annoying as holding on to a bar of soap. (very hard to do)


is not hard if you've been to jail.XD

NarkamaN
01-27-2008, 06:44 AM
Thats good for you. This topic fails. If they quit before level 20, would they still be here? YES!

I'm going out on a limb and saying no. But fuck me if I'm wrong.

/me fuck's you.

NightWolfx
01-27-2008, 12:09 PM
Nexon really needs to reduce the EXP curve or something. They'd probably get more players. Players that would spend MONEY. But then the community would go even further down the shitter, so its a win-lose situation.

Wait, so the experience was lowered? Has it changed since 2004-ish? O:

@Kyosuke: Well, It took me from 6th grade throughout middle school to hit level 50. :P

I don't really think of MS as a grind-hard game; I usually only play games to meet friends. I started playing Rakion right after I quit MapleStory and it took me 2 years to hit level 50 in that game [Though now it's SUPER easy to level with all those cash *****s out there.] but I made so many friends it's uncountable. :D

Walruz
01-27-2008, 12:26 PM
id much rather hack than train legitly.
grinding in maple burns hours of your life away just to get a number up on your character. its ridiculous.
id much rather leave my bot on and sleep away. Honestly.
i no u guys wud like that too, just admit it. shit.

Let me tell whats ridiculous, Hacking. Whats the fucking point? So all you do in the whole game is sell/buy stuff, and let the bot hande everything else?

Oisterboy
01-27-2008, 12:28 PM
Man, those are the FUN levels. Shame on you.

I am better than you
01-27-2008, 01:59 PM
Man, those are the FUN levels. Shame on you.

Well, everybody can have a different perception of fun. For me, it would have been more fun if they lowered the experience curve. Maplestory does not really need PvP, but it would be much more enjoyable if leveling was faster. I mean, it has one of the most innovative concepts in MMORPG history, yet it makes it tedious.

Chronine
01-27-2008, 07:41 PM
Well, everybody can have a different perception of fun. For me, it would have been more fun if they lowered the experience curve. Maplestory does not really need PvP, but it would be much more enjoyable if leveling was faster. I mean, it has one of the most innovative concepts in MMORPG history, yet it makes it tedious.

Innovative....? What is so innovative about this game? 2d graphics? The fact that you sit here for hours on end to gain a grand total for 20%? Please tell me the innovation in this game.

Heroshi
01-27-2008, 08:00 PM
Theres alot of innovation >.>

Party Quest, Platforming, 2D graphics , SideScrolling

LiGhT StUfF
01-27-2008, 08:31 PM
i quit at lv 18 then got back on when there was 2x exp then bout 2x exp and it was 4x exp =o and got to lv 39 in one day then quit again...and joined again... and yeah this is an on and off sorta thing for me =]

yoon82
01-27-2008, 11:16 PM
id much rather hack than train legitly.
grinding in maple burns hours of your life away just to get a number up on your character. its ridiculous.
id much rather leave my bot on and sleep away. Honestly.
i no u guys wud like that too, just admit it. shit.

Actually, it's people with your kind of mentality that wants their cake and eat their ice cream too.

You need a lot of patience to play MS, to grind and find ways to motivate yourself. What's the point of "playing" a game if you're only going to step away from it while the hack programs do the work? You come back with 5mil mesos and 15 new items in your inventory, woohoo. Great job. Now what? You still don't know how to play your character and you've made no social connections with other players.

If you want to hack, go hack elsewhere please.

As for myself, I've enjoyed the game through thick and thin. I'm one of few remaining old school MSers who never hacked and remained in the game... and now that 4th job is released, I'm proud to be where I am. It's the people I play with that make the game interesting. Perhaps those who think MS is crap are the ones who haven't been able to make a social network here. Not our faults you're socially inept.

In the end, cheating gets you nowhere... even in REAL LIFE.

Hellz
01-27-2008, 11:27 PM
id much rather hack than train legitly.
grinding in maple burns hours of your life away just to get a number up on your character. its ridiculous.
id much rather leave my bot on and sleep away. Honestly.
i no u guys wud like that too, just admit it. shit.

My fucking god, you've gone for a year thinking we're all gigantic fucktards that don't have the attention span to play a game without hacking like you. We don't need to fucking cheat to get through a game, we don't fucking want to. Can you get that through your thick skull? It might have taken you a year to finally understand not everyone is as slow as you are but you might as well learn it now.

Idiots like you are fucking annoying.

ThunderaWolf
01-27-2008, 11:32 PM
Of course hacking is illegal, so is download music and videos.

Also to me i do consider sitting on the computer with your face 3 inches away from the screen nolifeing. Sorry but thats me :-/

But then again outside cant really be consider Nolifeing, when you play Football or Bball, it could be considered good for your health, and a good excersize.
And maple is good for your social and mental health so how is it nolifeing?
I don't get your point are you one of the people that thinks that health is all "physical"? Its not theres three parts to it and your activities satisify 2, social and physical, and games that make you think(maple can be counted because of skill builds number chrunching) have 2, social and mental.

So really they both help your health in different ways, being in shape isn't the only thing needed and doesn't help if your alone and nuts :D

KyosukeKun29
01-28-2008, 12:17 AM
My fucking god, you've gone for a year thinking we're all gigantic fucktards that don't have the attention span to play a game without hacking like you. We don't need to fucking cheat to get through a game, we don't fucking want to. Can you get that through your thick skull? It might have taken you a year to finally understand not everyone is as slow as you are but you might as well learn it now.

Idiots like you are fucking annoying.

calm down. just saying..
not like u wudnt like a few free lvls.. gosh.
sry but u no its true.
and i dont even hack anymore. lol

Actually, it's people with your kind of mentality that wants their ice cream and eat their ice cream too.

You need a lot of patience to play MS, to grind and find ways to motivate yourself. What's the point of "playing" a game if you're only going to step away from it while the hack programs do the work? You come back with 5mil mesos and 15 new items in your inventory, woohoo. Great job. Now what? You still don't know how to play your character and you've made no social connections with other players.

If you want to hack, go hack elsewhere please.

As for myself, I've enjoyed the game through thick and thin. I'm one of few remaining old school MSers who never hacked and remained in the game... and now that 4th job is released, I'm proud to be where I am. It's the people I play with that make the game interesting. Perhaps those who think MS is crap are the ones who haven't been able to make a social network here. Not our faults you're socially inept.

In the end, cheating gets you nowhere... even in REAL LIFE.

thats true..

Darkone121
01-28-2008, 12:20 AM
And maple is good for your social and mental health so how is it nolifeing?
I don't get your point are you one of the people that thinks that health is all "physical"? Its not theres three parts to it and your activities satisify 2, social and physical, and games that make you think(maple can be counted because of skill builds number chrunching) have 2, social and mental.

So really they both help your health in different ways, being in shape isn't the only thing needed and doesn't help if your alone and nuts :D

Yea true, i guess MS could be considered of Social and mental. But then again id rather go outside and have fun then sitting in front of a monitor.

But sitting infront of a monitor could be fun if you have the requirements like friends, or knowing what to do. Most games doesnt have to be a grind if you want it to be.

But alot of people are different. I can tell that nearly over 70~80% of MS community are hackers. And the remaining is legit.

Btw i didnt get what you said about ur skill builds and number chrunching...O_o

@yoon your rite about cheating gets you no where, its like going to the bank, taking out ur pistol and saying "Money plawks" and running out.

Later on cops come and BAM "You have been using third party programs, and have been permantenly banned" (jail)

Hellz
01-28-2008, 12:20 AM
That's exactly what I mean *rolls eyes*

Fuck sakes I said I wouldn't. >_>

I don't think people like you ever learn.

EDIT: Directed at lolkyo

Satio
01-28-2008, 12:28 AM
I remember when I first played, got to level 15 in a day. I couldn't imagine quitting at such a low level. Maybe before like 30 or 40. But 20? The grind hasn't even started yet.

ThunderaWolf
01-28-2008, 12:32 AM
Yea true, i guess MS could be considered of Social and mental. But then again id rather go outside and have fun then sitting in front of a monitor.

But sitting infront of a monitor could be fun if you have the requirements like friends, or knowing what to do. Most games doesnt have to be a grind if you want it to be.

But alot of people are different. I can tell that nearly over 70~80% of MS community are hackers. And the remaining is legit.

Btw i didnt get what you said about ur skill builds and number chrunching...O_o

@yoon your rite about cheating gets you no where, its like going to the bank, taking out ur pistol and saying "Money plawks" and running out.

Later on cops come and BAM "You have been using third party programs, and have been permantenly banned" (jail)
:D glad tohave reached an agreement :)

Darkone121
01-28-2008, 12:34 AM
:D glad tohave reached an agreement :)

Didnt feel like starting a flame war >_>

Like i usually do in all topics XD

I am better than you
01-28-2008, 01:24 AM
Yeah, I think Maple is great for your mental health.
I mean, if you are able to grind 80 levels, you must have a really damn strong mind to be able to stand all of it. Also, it requires you to memorize exactly what you need for quests if you do not want to go and click on the Quests tab. This can be a great mental exercise to some people, who do not do much in their household. Juuuuuuuuuust kiiiiiiiiiiiding.
/sarcasm

I don't really have any comments about the effects of Maple on one's mental health.
However, social health is a different matter. Meeting people on Maple is not likely to make it easier for you to socialize with others in real life. If someone you know plays Maple, playing will increase your friendship with her, not your relationship with people in general. Maple has a kind of social "cult", but I wouldn't want to be part of it much less be part of 4chan. I know that the words "cult" and "4chan" both have negative connotations, but please do not take any offense at it. You can always be good friends with others online in Maple, though I would not register that as social health.

ThunderaWolf
01-28-2008, 03:24 AM
Yeah, I think Maple is great for your mental health.
I mean, if you are able to grind 80 levels, you must have a really damn strong mind to be able to stand all of it. Also, it requires you to memorize exactly what you need for quests if you do not want to go and click on the Quests tab. This can be a great mental exercise to some people, who do not do much in their household. Juuuuuuuuuust kiiiiiiiiiiiding.
/sarcasm

I don't really have any comments about the effects of Maple on one's mental health.
However, social health is a different matter. Meeting people on Maple is not likely to make it easier for you to socialize with others in real life. If someone you know plays Maple, playing will increase your friendship with her, not your relationship with people in general. Maple has a kind of social "cult", but I wouldn't want to be part of it much less be part of 4chan. I know that the words "cult" and "4chan" both have negative connotations, but please do not take any offense at it. You can always be good friends with others online in Maple, though I would not register that as social health.
.. we came to an agreement you didn't need to but in and bring it up again.

Thalamast
01-28-2008, 03:48 AM
.. we came to an agreement you didn't need to but in and bring it up again.

i am better then you has to be... duh... better then you

yoon82
01-28-2008, 03:57 AM
I don't really have any comments about the effects of Maple on one's mental health.
However, social health is a different matter. Meeting people on Maple is not likely to make it easier for you to socialize with others in real life. If someone you know plays Maple, playing will increase your friendship with her, not your relationship with people in general. Maple has a kind of social "cult", but I wouldn't want to be part of it much less be part of 4chan. I know that the words "cult" and "4chan" both have negative connotations, but please do not take any offense at it. You can always be good friends with others online in Maple, though I would not register that as social health.

During my entire stay with OnRPG, this has to be one of the dumbest/most obvious statements made in this forum.

a.) No shit, meeting someone in a game is different than meeting someone in real life. A monkey can differentiate the two.
b.) Social health? Do you even know what the hell you're talking about?
c.) Do us all a favor and just stop posting please. It may just be safer for you to read posts and keep the comments to yourself.

kthnxbai.

Darkone121
01-28-2008, 05:20 AM
During my entire stay with OnRPG, this has to be one of the dumbest/most obvious statements made in this forum.

a.) No shit, meeting someone in a game is different than meeting someone in real life. A monkey can differentiate the two.
b.) Social health? Do you even know what the hell you're talking about?
c.) Do us all a favor and just stop posting please. It may just be safer for you to read posts and keep the comments to yourself.

kthnxbai.

Not unless if its a Pink butted monkey! :3

Sketchyx
01-28-2008, 05:49 AM
During my entire stay with OnRPG, this has to be one of the dumbest/most obvious statements made in this forum.

a.) No shit, meeting someone in a game is different than meeting someone in real life. A monkey can differentiate the two.
b.) Social health? Do you even know what the hell you're talking about?
c.) Do us all a favor and just stop posting please. It may just be safer for you to read posts and keep the comments to yourself.

kthnxbai.

I agree 100%. i think he was just trying to act smart...but really failed.Btw steve don spam :D

Darkone121
01-28-2008, 06:42 AM
I agree 100%. i think he was just trying to act smart...but really failed.Btw steve don spam :D

That wasnt spam, that was agreeing but in a different way. Cause all monkey's got pink butts i think we all know that >_>

ThunderaWolf
01-28-2008, 06:49 AM
I agree 100%. i think he was just trying to act smart...but really failed.Btw steve don spam :D
i also agree i just didn't want to argue ><

leathel
01-28-2008, 01:26 PM
i find this grind to be the same as flyff altho i am always using the 2x exp from nx i was able to get 55 in like 3 weeks on ems... >_> and thats from being a complete noob. Am i one of the only people who actually like the maple grind? its nice and casual and it doesnt take u ages to kill one monster that gives average exp.....2hit kills giving 0.05 is good exp to me and not grindy....even if u cut that in half its still not grindy. I aint gonna lie though ages ago when i played maple on gms i quit at like level 18 but that was for other reasons :D

yoon82
01-28-2008, 06:18 PM
"The Grind" can be agitating when you don't make money or don't find any drops. Then you're there like "omg wtf. just shoot me plox". Personally, if I know I don't have the patience, I won't grind out exp.

I am better than you
01-28-2008, 09:38 PM
During my entire stay with OnRPG, this has to be one of the dumbest/most obvious statements made in this forum.

a.) No shit, meeting someone in a game is different than meeting someone in real life. A monkey can differentiate the two.
b.) Social health? Do you even know what the hell you're talking about?
c.) Do us all a favor and just stop posting please. It may just be safer for you to read posts and keep the comments to yourself.

I disagree. Yours was far more stupid. If you say it is obvious, then you are also saying that it is true. Yet in b, you imply rather rudely that I don't know what social health is. Therefore, you have created a paradox: you agree with the statement, which is about social health, and you then ask if I know what I'm saying.

a.) First of all, I was responding to an earlier comment that suggested Maple was good for your social health. Your comment was completely pointless and unnecessary. Also, it has not been proven that a monkey can tell between them.
b.) Prove to me that you know what defines social health. Obviously I know what I'm talking about - don't ask rhetorical questions. If you can't prove that you know, then at least prove that I don't know.
c.) Why don't you stop posting then? You're not helping the situation in any way whatsoever. The favor would be yours.

kazoo
01-28-2008, 10:06 PM
kyos
dark one

You both hacked, so your opinion doesn't count in this topic. How can hacking be fun for a game? You get to a high level, people find out you hack, you don't make friends through the game and when you " become legit" you complain that it's to hard to level. Then you guys quit.
No were in that statement was the true goal of playing MS achieved. MS is an MMORPG that was designed to create a friendly enviorment with the gaming community where people can relax and chill with other gamer's.
Yoon and Veros and other's are at such a high level where leveling takes so long that they can train for hours and yet only achieve a fraction to there next level. But why are they still in the game? The reasons simple, they actually earned what they worked for.
Also, concerning hacking. If you don't have time to level, what makes you think you have time to play it after you reach a certain level?

Darkone121
01-28-2008, 11:24 PM
kyos
dark one

You both hacked, so your opinion doesn't count in this topic. How can hacking be fun for a game? You get to a high level, people find out you hack, you don't make friends through the game and when you " become legit" you complain that it's to hard to level. Then you guys quit.
No were in that statement was the true goal of playing MS achieved. MS is an MMORPG that was designed to create a friendly enviorment with the gaming community where people can relax and chill with other gamer's.
Yoon and Veros and other's are at such a high level where leveling takes so long that they can train for hours and yet only achieve a fraction to there next level. But why are they still in the game? The reasons simple, they actually earned what they worked for.
Also, concerning hacking. If you don't have time to level, what makes you think you have time to play it after you reach a certain level?

If you dont have much time to play the game and be LEGIT doesnt mean that you dont have time at all.

Yes i did hack before, its not fun neither boring. Whats not fun about it is people catches you hacking and tells others, whats not boring about it is you can see yourself leveling night by night and getting stronger. And their should be a point were you stop hacking and go on from their.

Also how does our opinion not go for this topic? Maybe i was legit before and got hacked over 6 times and got bored of being hacked, so instead i stopped being a dumbass by giving my info, and hack instead.

But that crap is over. I dont hack no more but that doesnt mean im legit.

Sketchyx
01-28-2008, 11:32 PM
kyos
dark one

You both hacked, so your opinion doesn't count in this topic. How can hacking be fun for a game? You get to a high level, people find out you hack, you don't make friends through the game and when you " become legit" you complain that it's to hard to level. Then you guys quit.
No were in that statement was the true goal of playing MS achieved. MS is an MMORPG that was designed to create a friendly enviorment with the gaming community where people can relax and chill with other gamer's.
Yoon and Veros and other's are at such a high level where leveling takes so long that they can train for hours and yet only achieve a fraction to there next level. But why are they still in the game? The reasons simple, they actually earned what they worked for.
Also, concerning hacking. If you don't have time to level, what makes you think you have time to play it after you reach a certain level?

I dont know. Try hacking maybe youl enjoy it. To me hacking was fun until a certain point where i was getting bored and started playing legit. I dont understand where your getting all your facts from about hackers. I still play maple story legit, i have tons of friends on broa and probably 95% of them know i used to hack and are ok with it. Plus i think people have diffrent goals in maple story. Some people play to level, some play to chill with friends. i think you should stop making all these assumptions about hackers and so on. i really hate when people do this. its like me saying to a high leveld person" O your lifeless, probably took you months and months of training to get to 12x". Its not fair to them. I dont know them, i cant just assume that they have no social life or do anything outside of maple.

TofuKid
01-28-2008, 11:40 PM
Hackers arn't as bad as scammers -_- tehres only 2 things I hate about them

1. THEY STEAL MY MAPS
2. They unbalance the game in terms of prices and rankings.

They can obviously use god mode and use vac hack so yeah increase the chances of dropping something and losing less money cause of god mode.

Also rankings made unfair since everyone trains ages to get to lvl xxx while a hacker just leaves the bot working over night while he/she sleeps. So hackers kind of take the sense of acheivement away from other players.

Thats about all the things I hate about hackers.. Though the 1st one isn't such a problem since they cc and since all the monsters are vac'ed I take that as an opportunity and kill the mosnters and loot the hacker.

yoon82
01-28-2008, 11:42 PM
I disagree. Yours was far more stupid. If you say it is obvious, then you are also saying that it is true. Yet in b, you imply rather rudely that I don't know what social health is. Therefore, you have created a paradox: you agree with the statement, which is about social health, and you then ask if I know what I'm saying.

a.) First of all, I was responding to an earlier comment that suggested Maple was good for your social health. Your comment was completely pointless and unnecessary. Also, it has not been proven that a monkey can tell between them.
b.) Prove to me that you know what defines social health. Obviously I know what I'm talking about - don't ask rhetorical questions. If you can't prove that you know, then at least prove that I don't know.
c.) Why don't you stop posting then? You're not helping the situation in any way whatsoever. The favor would be yours.

I'm not going to bother explaining myself because you've proven in your own post that you didn't understand my first response. Take your time and read it thoroughly. You can use the dictionary if needed. Come back whenever you're ready.

I am better than you
01-29-2008, 12:02 AM
I'm not going to bother explaining myself because . Take your time and read it thoroughly. You can use the dictionary if needed. Come back whenever you're ready.

I understood your first response perfectly.
You may not try to hide the response's meaning.
The statement, "you've proven in your own post that you didn't understand my first response" is useless. You have not shown why I have been wrong in my interpretation.
Please stop trying.

KyosukeKun29
01-29-2008, 12:11 AM
kyos
dark one

You both hacked, so your opinion doesn't count in this topic. How can hacking be fun for a game? You get to a high level, people find out you hack, you don't make friends through the game and when you " become legit" you complain that it's to hard to level. Then you guys quit.
No were in that statement was the true goal of playing MS achieved. MS is an MMORPG that was designed to create a friendly enviorment with the gaming community where people can relax and chill with other gamer's.
Yoon and Veros and other's are at such a high level where leveling takes so long that they can train for hours and yet only achieve a fraction to there next level. But why are they still in the game? The reasons simple, they actually earned what they worked for.
Also, concerning hacking. If you don't have time to level, what makes you think you have time to play it after you reach a certain level?
u havent even TRIED hacking.

Darkone121
01-29-2008, 01:21 AM
Whoa! Guys! i been to the Future!

Cause i knew flaming was gunna appear in this topic anyways >_>

magicjubin
01-29-2008, 01:26 AM
u havent even TRIED hacking.

Hacking is hella boring.

Set up hacks before i go to school (10 min max)
When i come back sell everything and come back (15 min max)
Sell everything before i sleep (10 min max)

Hacking doesnt reduce prices. Most hackers NPC things, or give it to their main. In doing so, there is a little less demand for an item, causing a slightly lower price for that item.


a.) First of all, I was responding to an earlier comment that suggested Maple was good for your social health. Your comment was completely pointless and unnecessary. Also, it has not been proven that a monkey can tell between them.
b.) Prove to me that you know what defines social health. Obviously I know what I'm talking about - don't ask rhetorical questions. If you can't prove that you know, then at least prove that I don't know.
c.) Why don't you stop posting then? You're not helping the situation in any way whatsoever. The favor would be yours.
Dude just STFU. We've seen your posts and were tired of you just complaing to older members.

Its not hard getting past level 20. You can get past 50 in 1 day. (No Joke)

I am better than you
01-29-2008, 01:34 AM
Dude just STFU. We've seen your posts and were tired of you just complaing to older members.

Its not hard getting past level 20. You can get past 50 in 1 day. (No Joke)

I was complaining to a very slight degree about Maplestory's grinding, not to "older members". A person's post count or join date does not matter at all. Though I'm not sure if you can get past 50 in one day, even with hacking. I was never any good at hacking it, thinking it every bit as tedious as playing the game by itself or in some cases more so.

EDIT: Tofukid has proven me wrong.

yoon82
01-29-2008, 01:37 AM
I understood your first response perfectly.
You may not try to hide the response's meaning.
The statement, "you've proven in your own post that you didn't understand my first response" is useless. You have not shown why I have been wrong in my interpretation.
Please stop trying.

I'm not trying. ROFLMAO.

TofuKid
01-29-2008, 01:39 AM
2x exp and gacha items.

lol that'll set you of on a nice start to lvling to 50 in a day.

I am better than you
01-29-2008, 01:56 AM
I'm not trying. ROFLMAO.

This proves that you didn't notice that I did not include a noun in "Please stop trying."
Or, maybe you did. However, I still understood your first post perfectly, and you have not disproven this statement.

yoon82
01-29-2008, 02:47 AM
This proves that you didn't notice that I did not include a noun in "Please stop trying."
Or, maybe you did. However, I still understood your first post perfectly, and you have not disproven this statement.

omg, is this dude really serious? lol

ThunderaWolf
01-29-2008, 02:53 AM
This proves that you didn't notice that I did not include a noun in "Please stop trying."
Or, maybe you did. However, I still understood your first post perfectly, and you have not disproven this statement.
You don't need a noun considering all your previous stuff had been about yoon its a normal assumpution.

Oh and how was saying maple can help with social health irrelevent? I used it as a counter argument to "go outside and do something" because belive it or not maple DOES help your social health even if the way of communicating is different you learn how to interact with people you don't know, how to negotiate sure its different then talking, but really in the end it helps.

kazoo
01-29-2008, 03:00 AM
I dont know. Try hacking maybe youl enjoy it. To me hacking was fun until a certain point where i was getting bored and started playing legit. I dont understand where your getting all your facts from about hackers. I still play maple story legit, i have tons of friends on broa and probably 95% of them know i used to hack and are ok with it. Plus i think people have diffrent goals in maple story. Some people play to level, some play to chill with friends. i think you should stop making all these assumptions about hackers and so on. i really hate when people do this. its like me saying to a high leveld person" O your lifeless, probably took you months and months of training to get to 12x". Its not fair to them. I dont know them, i cant just assume that they have no social life or do anything outside of maple.

1.) Everything I said were true. Does hacking benefit you from the rest of the community? No. Does hacking make it more fun? hmm lets see, maybe for a while but let's take a look at some of the ex-hackers here. Now I'm not sure but Dark gained about what? 5 levels after he stopped hacking, "LEGIT"? Kyos, did he not quitfor a while? I'm not to sur about THAT now. You, I remember you use to level quite fast on your CB before you hacked. Now after you stopped hacking everythnig slowed down did it not? Wonder why. This might be an assumption, but I' thinking you stopped leveling as much because you feel it is to slow comparing to hacking.

2.) When did I make an assumption on hackers? I made statements on what hacking does.


3.) As a matter of fact, I did try hacking in many games and it's not fun at all. I tried out a friends MapHack in dota, and I found it ridiculously stupid.
I hacked in Gunbound after my account was banned and it was pure bull. I botted in ragnarok and sure it was fun being maxed out before everyone. But then what was there after to do maxing out? It just got boring. I tried making other characters and just couldnt cause it was to slow.

@Dark,

Again, if you feel that leveling up to a high level is a waste of time, once you stop hacking what do you do from then? If you can't level in the early stage, what makes you think you can level in the high levels? Now if you say you could just chill and hang out with friends and not level, haven't you just lost your motivation to play the game? Which was to reach a goal.

Darkone121
01-29-2008, 03:12 AM
1.) Everything I said were true. Does hacking benefit you from the rest of the community? No. Does hacking make it more fun? hmm lets see, maybe for a while but let's take a look at some of the ex-hackers here. Now I'm not sure but Dark gained about what? 5 levels after he stopped hacking, "LEGIT"? Kyos, did he not quitfor a while? I'm not to sur about THAT now. You, I remember you use to level quite fast on your CB before you hacked. Now after you stopped hacking everythnig slowed down did it not? Wonder why. This might be an assumption, but I' thinking you stopped leveling as much because you feel it is to slow comparing to hacking.

2.) When did I make an assumption on hackers? I made statements on what hacking does.


3.) As a matter of fact, I did try hacking in many games and it's not fun at all. I tried out a friends MapHack in dota, and I found it ridiculously stupid.
I hacked in Gunbound after my account was banned and it was pure bull. I botted in ragnarok and sure it was fun being maxed out before everyone. But then what was there after to do maxing out? It just got boring. I tried making other characters and just couldnt cause it was to slow.

@Dark,

Again, if you feel that leveling up to a high level is a waste of time, once you stop hacking what do you do from then? If you can't level in the early stage, what makes you think you can level in the high levels? Now if you say you could just chill and hang out with friends and not level, haven't you just lost your motivation to play the game? Which was to reach a goal.

I love answering questions :3

K once i stop hacking heres what i do, i pq with friends (if low lvl), i will boss, orrr i can do w/e else with my friends, then i would atleast try training.

Good point, yea it gets hard after you try training in the high lvls but, you get use to it. and you do other things. Training in this game is always the main priority, thats why hacking is available. But i try passing that priority into doing other things.

Well, it matters, if i lost my motivation into playing the game, then i would quit for about a month, until i hear something new, likee lets say...Leafre? Then your motivation returns...Why do you think MS is so addicting? People make topics like "Im gone guys cya" then a month or to later they come back saying "IM BACK!!!"

Sketchyx
01-29-2008, 03:31 AM
1.) Everything I said were true. Does hacking benefit you from the rest of the community? No. Does hacking make it more fun? hmm lets see, maybe for a while but let's take a look at some of the ex-hackers here. Now I'm not sure but Dark gained about what? 5 levels after he stopped hacking, "LEGIT"? Kyos, did he not quitfor a while? I'm not to sur about THAT now. You, I remember you use to level quite fast on your CB before you hacked. Now after you stopped hacking everythnig slowed down did it not? Wonder why. This might be an assumption, but I' thinking you stopped leveling as much because you feel it is to slow comparing to hacking.

2.) When did I make an assumption on hackers? I made statements on what hacking does.


3.) As a matter of fact, I did try hacking in many games and it's not fun at all. I tried out a friends MapHack in dota, and I found it ridiculously stupid.
I hacked in Gunbound after my account was banned and it was pure bull. I botted in ragnarok and sure it was fun being maxed out before everyone. But then what was there after to do maxing out? It just got boring. I tried making other characters and just couldnt cause it was to slow.

@Dark,

Again, if you feel that leveling up to a high level is a waste of time, once you stop hacking what do you do from then? If you can't level in the early stage, what makes you think you can level in the high levels? Now if you say you could just chill and hang out with friends and not level, haven't you just lost your motivation to play the game? Which was to reach a goal.

People have diffrent prefrences i guess. Plus the only reason i hacked on my chief bandit is because it was getting boring. Even now after getting 4th job and doing zakum with my guild i dont really like my cb. Now i just use my cb to fund my hermit, and personally i enjoy hacking in games. I dont hack in games that require skills like source, dota and so on.

KyosukeKun29
01-29-2008, 03:32 AM
this thread turned into a 'Hacking Or legit' thread. :eye:

ZeroBlade
01-29-2008, 11:23 AM
Hacking is hella boring.

Set up hacks before i go to school (10 min max)
When i come back sell everything and come back (15 min max)
Sell everything before i sleep (10 min max)

Hacking doesnt reduce prices. Most hackers NPC things, or give it to their main. In doing so, there is a little less demand for an item, causing a slightly lower price for that item.


Dude just STFU. We've seen your posts and were tired of you just complaing to older members.

Its not hard getting past level 20. You can get past 50 in 1 day. (No Joke)

JUBINRAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE!>:(>:(>:(>:(

People have diffrent prefrences i guess. Plus the only reason i hacked on my chief bandit is because it was getting boring. Even now after getting 4th job and doing zakum with my guild i dont really like my cb. Now i just use my cb to fund my hermit, and personally i enjoy hacking in games. I dont hack in games that require skills like source, dota and so on.

CS:Source is more like: AIM FOR MIDSECTION, FIRE 3 SHOTS, BOOM HEADSHOT. For a M16, and AK is like the same..just 1 shot.

this thread turned into a 'Hacking Or legit' thread. :eye:

>_> Wonder HOW that train set for de-railage got started. >_>

I am better than you
01-29-2008, 09:19 PM
You don't need a noun.

Yep. You are right.


Oh and how was saying maple can help with social health irrelevent? I used it as a counter argument to "go outside and do something" because belive it or not maple DOES help your social health even if the way of communicating is different you learn how to interact with people you don't know, how to negotiate sure its different then talking, but really in the end it helps


I didn't say it was irrelevant. However, I do disagree with your opinion.

Sketchyx
01-29-2008, 10:04 PM
Ye zero i now. I play 1,6 too. Been playing 1.6 since it came out, but i just used source as an example

Phaze
01-29-2008, 10:25 PM
Well this might be a little off topic but I'm beginning to quit from all the kiddy bullshit I hear off smegas but that's just me lol. Things like BL <3333333333333, I LOVE YOU BF <333333, (name) likes to rape kids HAHAHA(<STFU) etc. Makes me lose interest in the game somehow :D

ThunderaWolf
01-30-2008, 01:17 AM
Yep. You are right.



I didn't say it was irrelevant. However, I do disagree with your opinion.
What opinion O.o please clarify

I am better than you
01-30-2008, 01:26 AM
Oh and how was saying maple can help with social health irrelevent? I used it as a counter argument to "go outside and do something" because belive it or not maple DOES help your social health even if the way of communicating is different you learn how to interact with people you don't know, how to negotiate sure its different then talking, but really in the end it helps.

This opinion.

ThunderaWolf
01-30-2008, 01:31 AM
This opinion.
Still don't see it you REALLY need to explain what exactly isthe opinion.

I am better than you
01-30-2008, 01:42 AM
You believe that playing Maplestory can help improve one's social health.
That is your opinion.
Someone else may believe that it may be a detriment to one's social health.
That is his opinion.

Opinion =/= Fact.

Hellz
01-30-2008, 01:45 AM
Why are you guys still going. This is so stupid.

You're all wrong, we're all wrong. Leave the shit to die.

magicjubin
01-30-2008, 02:03 AM
JUBINRAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE!>:(>:(>:(>:(



CS:Source is more like: AIM FOR MIDSECTION, FIRE 3 SHOTS, BOOM HEADSHOT. For a M16, and AK is like the same..just 1 shot.



>_> Wonder HOW that train set for de-railage got started. >_>

That was a long time ago >:o

Condition zero = CS?

ThunderaWolf
01-30-2008, 03:09 AM
You believe that playing Maplestory can help improve one's social health.
That is your opinion.
Someone else may believe that it may be a detriment to one's social health.
That is his opinion.

Opinion =/= Fact.
now, i don't want to get into an opinion v fact war. Once again belive it or not maple WILL help social health(with exceptions but all rules have them) if you get on maple and one person talks to you and trats you nicely it WILL help your social health.

I never said belive or think in my stating of it maple will help yor social health its a fact(to an extent)