At my school, people don't like the Foo Fighters.
Some of you metal fans probably don't like the Foo Fighters, so I'd like an explanation why you don' like them. Not saying they are the greatest band ever, but everyone I know who likes hardcore or metal don't like them.

One response I got was "they're annoying.''

Yup, annoying. Kind of how Fall Out Boy is annoying.

You don't listen to rock, I think FOB is annoying to.

maybe all the people at your school are idiots who listen to nothing but MCR

You don't listen to rock, I think FOB is annoying to.

I listen to rock, I just haven't listed to much of the Foo Fighters to like them.



You're the one with rap music always playing at your house.

Foo Fighters are the shit. Just watched an hour long concert of them on High Def on my tv. Love em

the reason that most people who listen to metal dont like foo fighters, is usualy that metal heads are usualy used to music involving solo's that will melt your face and prego your gf.
so, a comercial rock ''oh im ashamed i ever played with Kurt Cobain'' band aint gona cut it for most of them.

the reason that most people who listen to metal dont like foo fighters, is usualy that metal heads are usualy used to music involving solo's that will melt your face and prego your gf.
so, a comercial rock ''oh im ashamed i ever played with Kurt Cobain'' band aint gona cut it for most of them.
Quoted for truth.
They're just not hard enough.

is usualy that metal heads are usualy used to music involving solo's that will melt your face and prego your gf.


sigged. >:(

their too soft core

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEmtVLzOm7E&feature=related

Gorgoroth - Unchain my Heart

the reason that most people who listen to metal dont like foo fighters, is usualy that metal heads are usualy used to music involving solo's that will melt your face and prego your gf.
so, a comercial rock ''oh im ashamed i ever played with Kurt Cobain'' band aint gona cut it for most of them.

Erm...*Raises hand*, hey.

Dave Grohl was quoted as saying that he thinks about Kurt often, even still, and still thinks of him while writing music, citing one of his many sources of desire to play drums as being with him in Nirvana.

So, you're pretty wrong there.

Additionally, Dave Grohl is more respected by metal musicians than the metalheads who love them. Cronos was the first man to give his word to appear on Dave's Probot side project.

Do you know who Cronos is? He's in that band, Venom. The band who pretty much made it possible for most other extreme metal bands to exist. Guess who secured his services for their comeback album? Killing Joke. Killing Joke being that band that inspired and entire different line of metal. King Diamond? That Mercyful Fate guy? Loves Dave Grohl. So does James Hetfield, so does Max Cavalera etc. Tony Iommi, the guy who invented heavy metal guitar requested Grohl to sing and play guitar on a song for him. Do we wish to sit here and, though subjective, weigh up who's opinions carry more weight on the metal credibility of Grohl? I don't think we wish to do such things.

It's odd, they all seem to love the guy. Maybe it comes down to what I said about age. Those metal guys are old enough to recognise that talent is talent, and hating on it because it's not to your taste is immature. I hate Avenged Sevenfold, I think they suck balls, but I don't go around saying Synyster Gates is a shit guitarist. Dream Theater bore me to sleep, but I will debate to death with anyone who questions their musical and instrumental prowess, because they are the dog's balls at what they do.

Dave Grohl is more metal than any basement dwelling, Guitar Hero playing newb, who think they're the shit cos they wear an Obituary t-shirt, dude.

cause 'metal heads' think their music is the only good music. they shun everything else out.

/in my experience

the foo fighters are pretty sick.

Dave Grohl is more metal than any basement dwelling, Guitar Hero playing newb, who think they're the shit cos they wear an Obituary t-shirt, dude.

qft.

Additionally, Dave Grohl is more respected by metal musicians than the metalheads who love them.
Can you prove that?
And also, just because metal artists like him, that doesn't make him metal.

EDIT: GFAK your thinly veiled insults towards metalheads go unappreciated.
STFU kthanks.

It's not their fault, it's just sad that even in 2008, people think they're being anti-commercial for being metalheads.

Arguably the most commercial of subcultures outside of rock music.

The very fact that Guitar Hero exists, and metalheads love it, is dire proof of the situation.

It's not their fault, it's just sad that even in 2008, people think they're being anti-commercial for being metalheads.

Arguably the most commercial of subcultures outside of rock music.

The very fact that Guitar Hero exists, and metalheads love it, is dire proof of the situation.
Not quite.
Guitar Hero is not loved by everybody, and the 5, 6 metal tracks that are in the games do not account for commercialism.

The fact is, today's metal will never become commercial, because it will never be publicly acceptable to bash another religion or race. That's all the media focuses on anyway.

Can you prove that?
And also, just because metal artists like him, that doesn't make him metal.

EDIT: GFAK your thinly veiled insults towards metalheads go unappreciated.
STFU kthanks.

"Do you know who Cronos is? He's in that band, Venom. The band who pretty much made it possible for most other extreme metal bands to exist. Guess who secured his services for their comeback album? Killing Joke. Killing Joke being that band that inspired and entire different line of metal. King Diamond? That Mercyful Fate guy? Loves Dave Grohl. So does James Hetfield, so does Max Cavalera etc. Tony Iommi, the guy who invented heavy metal guitar requested Grohl to sing and play guitar on a song for him. Do we wish to sit here and, though subjective, weigh up who's opinions carry more weight on the metal credibility of Grohl? I don't think we wish to do such things.".

Pretty much all the metal credibility he needs.

If he's not metal, you certainly aren't. He's played with, and is respected by, some of the forefathers and innovators of metal, Tony Iommi created the shit, and he loves Grohl.

Dave Grohl has played metal with Venom's frontman, Tony Iommi and King Diamond. Who have you jammed with lately?

Not quite.
Guitar Hero is not loved by everybody, and the 5, 6 metal tracks that are in the games do not account for commercialism.

The fact is, today's metal will never become commercial, because it will never be publicly acceptable to bash another religion or race. That's all the media focuses on anyway.

Sorry to break it to you, but if you think metal, as a genre, isn't commercial? I suggest opening your eyes and waking up. Metal hasn't been alternative or undergound since Black Sabbath's days.

Just because Dissection aren't on TRL, doesn't mean it's not a commercial genre at times. Mainstream? Not totally. Commercial? Yes. The two are different. The very fact that metal culture is exploited and cashed in on at every turn is proof of it's commerciality. I've seen it happen growing up, and my uncle before me. The fact is (I'm not trying to diss by the way, don't take it personally) is that it seems you just love the idea of being some alternative, not of the norm guy. The fact is, I can go anywhere in Camden and find 90 people with long hair, wearing black, who listen to Dissection, Dragonforce, Blind Guardian etc.

You're not a subculture that is hidden away anymore. If the truth hurts, sucks to be you, quite frankly. Metal is not what you think it is, which is surprising, considering you claim you love it so much.

I'm not even suggesting you don't have varied taste, I believe you do from what you've told me, but I'm stating facts that you can't ignore without losing credibility.

Jesus is that all you think about is metal? Why can't you guys be more open minded?

I think its because Metal heads like to hear pigs and drums that sound like machine guns...

Me? I think theres more to life than guts blood and rotten apples.

Foo fighters is amazing! Though I do have 2 screamo bands on my comp's iTunes. :D

i wouldn't consider myself a metal head but my friends do and i like other music besides metal

i like metal, alternative, j-pop, j-rock, k-pop, k-rock and other language music

"Do you know who Cronos is? He's in that band, Venom. The band who pretty much made it possible for most other extreme metal bands to exist. Guess who secured his services for their comeback album? Killing Joke. Killing Joke being that band that inspired and entire different line of metal. King Diamond? That Mercyful Fate guy? Loves Dave Grohl. So does James Hetfield, so does Max Cavalera etc. Tony Iommi, the guy who invented heavy metal guitar requested Grohl to sing and play guitar on a song for him. Do we wish to sit here and, though subjective, weigh up who's opinions carry more weight on the metal credibility of Grohl? I don't think we wish to do such things.".

Pretty much all the metal credibility he needs.

If he's not metal, you certainly aren't. He's played with, and is respected by, some of the forefathers and innovators of metal, Tony Iommi created the shit, and he loves Grohl.

Dave Grohl has played metal with Venom's frontman, Tony Iommi and King Diamond. Who have you jammed with lately?

''blah blah blah'' dude, i dont care what someone said or any shit like that
foo fighters is generic comercial pop rock.
end of story
i dont care about your needless page long post meant to proove how much smarter you are then evry one and such.
im stating this from personal experience. im a musician, have been for 9 years, play guitar, bass and piano and have been playing in a metal band for 4 years.
i have never seen any metal heads, nor metal musicians, pay any kind of respect to grohl, nor nirvana. why? cause there a bunch of failbags. end of story.

I think its because Metal heads like to hear pigs and drums that sound like machine guns...

Me? I think theres more to life than guts blood and rotten apples.

Foo fighters is amazing! Though I do have 2 screamo bands on my comp's iTunes. :D

There's more to metal than blood, guts, and making noise for the sake of it, too. You can't paint metal with one brush either, it's not fair.

I think its because Metal heads like to hear pigs and drums that sound like machine guns...

Me? I think theres more to life than guts blood and rotten apples.

Foo fighters is amazing! Though I do have 2 screamo bands on my comp's iTunes. :D
THE SKRAMZ aka screamo wins. What bands?

it'd be pointless arguing with you PG6, you are so pro-metal.
nothing anyone says will change your mind about metal.
and you're obviously very insulted about my comment. (which was based on the people i know) it makes me think you're kind of like these people. you have you're set music tastes, and it is the best music ever.

i said from my experience, all the people i know who love metal, hate every other kind of music, and believe that metal is like a gift from god.

''blah blah blah'' dude, i dont care what someone said or any shit like that
foo fighters is generic comercial pop rock.
end of story
i dont care about your needless page long post meant to proove how much smarter you are then evry one and such.
im stating this from personal experience. im a musician, have been for 9 years, play guitar, bass and piano and have been playing in a metal band for 4 years.
i have never seen any metal heads, nor metal musicians, pay any kind of respect to grohl, nor nirvana. why? cause there a bunch of failbags. end of story.

it seems that in every thread you post in you rant on about how you play instruments, been doing so for quite a while, and that commercial music sucks. we get it. you can shut up now. everyone knows. end of story.

oh and we know you love putting your nuts in guys mouths. you say that quite a lot also.

There's no need to stoop to the level, GoFly.

Many people don't like being wrong, it's human nature, don't abuse the guy for it.

''blah blah blah'' dude, i dont care what someone said or any shit like that
foo fighters is generic comercial pop rock.
end of story
i dont care about your needless page long post meant to proove how much smarter you are then evry one and such.
im stating this from personal experience. im a musician, have been for 9 years, play guitar, bass and piano and have been playing in a metal band for 4 years.
i have never seen any metal heads, nor metal musicians, pay any kind of respect to grohl, nor nirvana. why? cause there a bunch of failbags. end of story.

Then you simply don't know metal. It's not very mature, or smart of you to just ignore everything because you dislike it. If you don't have the time, or ability, to discuss something, don't claim to be an authority on it. Proof being that you've played all these instruments, been in a band for four years, and you're still as closed minded to music as a republican is to theological issues.

I have 15 years of guitar experience. Doesn't mean anything here, we're not discussing technique or ability. We're discussing your erroneous opinion of Dave Grohl, and how your ability to debate metal is about as effective as an epileptic brain surgeon at a rave.

I've literally JUST given you source material as to where you can find out what and who in the metal community has paid respects to, and worked with, Dave Grohl. Throwing a tantrum will get you absolutely nowhere.

"End of Story".

Then you simply don't know metal. It's not very mature, or smart of you to just ignore everything because you dislike it. If you don't have the time, or ability, to discuss something, don't claim to be an authority on it. Proof being that you've played all these instruments, been in a band for four years, and you're still as closed minded to music as a republican is to theological issues.

I have 15 years of guitar experience. Doesn't mean anything here, we're not discussing technique or ability. We're discussing your erroneous opinion of Dave Grohl, and how your ability to debate metal is about as effective as an epileptic brain surgeon at a rave.

I've literally JUST given you source material as to where you can find out what and who in the metal community has paid respects to, and worked with, Dave Grohl. Throwing a tantrum will get you absolutely nowhere.

"End of Story".

me closed minded about music?
i think not
me closed minded about an extremly average musician who makes extremly generic music? i think so.
first of all, im not a ''metal head'' i dont think metal is the apex of music, neither do i think dragon force is some kind of god like most metalers. i listen to many other types of music, though mostly classical(romantic period being my fav) some techno(mostly oldschool psytrance from detroit) and prog.
my problem with these things in general, how could i say it. i see music as an art, and think evry one should be a modern version of chopin in how they do music. i am not impressed by some dude pulling of power chord rifts and making generic music. i dont like comercial music in general, and by this, i include MANY metal bands, not just the crap that plays on mtv and muchmusic/loud.
yes, my expectations towards music are extremly high, though, this does not mean they are not valid.

I listen to "emo" music. Why would that matter to people. As long as I'm happy I could care less what people think about music of all things.

I have all of Foo fighter's albums on my computer.

Though, I rarely listen to many of their songs.

Norrin, I give you the title of most creditable debater here.

But more or less, this topic wasn't a debate on Metal music, it was on why the Foo Fighters are disliked so much, especially by Metalheads. So Power, Squall, Norrin...no offense, but shove a sock in it.

Personally, I don't listen to much Foo Fighters, and I don't listen to alot of Metal. I'm an avid listener of Rap/Hip-Hop. Go ahead and say its shit music, **** you. But, I think the Foo Fighters are a good band. Of course, they aren't Metal, have all these awesome rifting sessions, and songs that make you want to mosh, or storm around. From Wikipedia; they are an Alternative, Post-grunge, Hard Rock band. Respect them for what genre they labeled themselves as. I don't go around shitting on other genres, you guys shouldn't either. We all come from different 'worlds' of music.

me closed minded about music?
i think not
me closed minded about an extremly average musician who makes extremly generic music? i think so.

I'm not saying you have to like his music, but ability is NOT subjective, and he's not an average musician. They're an average band, to me, who make decent music. You hate them, fair play.

first of all, im not a ''metal head'' i dont think metal is the apex of music, neither do i think dragon force is some kind of god like most metalers. i listen to many other types of music, though mostly classical(romantic period being my fav) some techno(mostly oldschool psytrance from detroit) and prog.
my problem with these things in general, how could i say it. i see music as an art, and think evry one should be a modern version of chopin in how they do music. i am not impressed by some dude pulling of power chord rifts and making generic music. i dont like comercial music in general, and by this, i include MANY metal bands, not just the crap that plays on mtv and muchmusic/loud.
yes, my expectations towards music are extremly high, though, this does not mean they are not valid.

Very understandable points, but what you fail to realise, or are ignoring, is that there has to be shit, for there to be good. Every musician and piece of music that exists HAS to exist.

Would you want Britney Spears, Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco fans suddenly being like "WOO! OPETH!"? I sure as hell would say "**** that.". Let them have their music. Yes, it does get frustrating for those of us who don't buy into the shit that is there, but to paint ALL mainstream music with the same brush is just as irresponsible as those who think metal and rock is just screaming.

I'm not pro or anti any genre, it is what it is. I'm pro-whatever music meets my own standards. Foo Fighters? I enjoy them, but I'm not acting like they're Led Zeppelin. You hate them, fine by me, but you're being a bit over-reactive just because you dislike them, in my opinion.

If you don't think your favorite music is the best music ever, what's the point of listening to it?
EDIT: I don't know what you're getting at with the whole FOB fans being like "WOO OPETH!" but I would support you in the "**** you"-ing.

If you don't think your favorite music is the best music ever, what's the point of listening to it?

Because you see all genres as equals depending on the opinion and just enjoy your own due to it appealing towards your own tastes however understand that your opinion is only one of many?

Just a thought...

But more or less, this topic wasn't a debate on Metal music, it was on why the Foo Fighters are disliked so much, especially by Metalheads. So Power, Squall, Norrin...no offense, but shove a sock in it.


THANK YOU.

Holy shit people, stop dissecting each other's posts trying to prove that the other is wrong.

You people are ridiculous.

If you don't think your favorite music is the best music ever, what's the point of listening to it?

I don't even know where to start with the ridiculousness of that comment, to be perfectly honest.

Music taste is subjective, first of all, and I don't rate all the bands or artists I like as the same. I listen to Foos, I listen to Emperor, I listen to Prince. I have different levels of how much I like or love their music for all the music I listen to.

If you feel that you have to believe the music you love is the best ever, by some kind of non-existent margin, then you probably don't appreciate music as much as you think you do, sir.

Thats just simply being ignorant, Power.

Think what you will, I like to think metal is the best, I know that it isn't in reality, but to me it may as well be.

Think what you will, I like to think metal is the best, I know that it isn't in reality, but to me it may as well be.

That makes no sense whatsoever, dude.

Really.

Lmfao.

Norrin, this is what he meant..

"Think what you want, but I think Metal is the best, it probably isn't a fact written down by congress, but to me, it is (the best damn music out there)."

Simple.

If, to PG6, metal is the best music, then go for it. I take NO issues with that.

My issue was with the implication that if you do not think your music is the absolute best kind ever, then you may as well not listen to it. That was what anyone sensible would have gotten out of his post, as it was blatant.

If he means, as I am being told; "If you're not passionate, what's the point?", then fine.

Passion does not mean you have to go around saying "My music is the best.". It's about how much YOU love it, not what it's better than.

I Second Jakuza.

Anyone 'sensible' may also have gotten out of that post that I was at most only 6/8 serious.
Passion does not mean that you HAVE to say that, but you may as well if you're so damn passionate.

Anyone 'sensible' may also have gotten out of that post that I was at most only 6/8 serious.
Passion does not mean that you HAVE to say that, but you may as well if you're so damn passionate.

There's a line between passion and ignorance, quite frankly.

Quite frankly, that's obvious.
And while we're being frank (and Frank is my first name), I don't even know wtf we're arguing about.
Furthermore, I'm tired of this.

For what it's worth, nothing personal at all, dude.

Some people here seem to have taken my posts way more negatively than they need to, and it's causing arguments that needn't exist. Let's just agree to bear in mind that no matter what's discussed, or how heated it gets, it's nothing personal.

Deal?

That goes from me to everybody, by the way. I'm not here to have wars, just discuss and have fun.

Sure why not.

Norrin, you still win most creditable debater.

I listen to "emo" music. Why would that matter to people. As long as I'm happy I could care less what people think about music of all things.

I have all of Foo fighter's albums on my computer.

Though, I rarely listen to many of their songs.

YAY quotations around the word "emo"


@ Norrin

YOu are made of win. I love you :)

Best Debater. lolwut

well, im a definite metalhead, but i also like many other kinds of music as well... and i admit, i quite like the foo fighters

i don't just restrict myself to metal music, although it's probably what i like most... im pretty open-minded and i like variety

Wow
lololololoolollolol Idfk whats going on here.

I don't like Grunge/Industrial Rock, hence I don't like the Foo Fighters. In my opinion I find it just plain messy and noisy to me.

I find Red Hot Chili Peppers music (In this case, anything from Blood Sugar Sex Magick and before) much more entertaining as Funk Rock (Which is relatively energetic and noisy) than typical Grunge, like the Foo Fighters. Not to mention the fact that the Foo Fighters are so mainstream, then there are posers who can't do the proper 'Rock sign' ( \m/ ) who think bands like Foo Fighters, A7X and Linkin Park are hardcore. I definitely do not want to be associated with them.

This thread was "Epic" so to speak.

But hey, I like a guy who can play Satan in a movie and still have enough self-esteem to keep making music. (David Grohl played Satan in The Pick of Destiny for those of you who didn't know).

Maynard James Keenan played Satan in a movie before.

I don't like Grunge/Industrial Rock, hence I don't like the Foo Fighters. In my opinion I find it just plain messy and noisy to me.

I find Red Hot Chili Peppers music (In this case, anything from Blood Sugar Sex Magick and before) much more entertaining as Funk Rock (Which is relatively energetic and noisy) than typical Grunge, like the Foo Fighters. Not to mention the fact that the Foo Fighters are so mainstream, then there are posers who can't do the proper 'Rock sign' ( \m/ ) who think bands like Foo Fighters, A7X and Linkin Park are hardcore. I definitely do not want to be associated with them.

Foo Fighters are nothing close to grunge, by the way. Their music has nothing like that in it. They're a rock band that happen to be mainstream. Red Hot Chili Peppers have never been grunge. If anything, they were a rock band with heavy funk influences that soon became another melodic rock band in the mainstream. The only funk element of their music is in the bass, now. I think Californication was an amazing album, and By the Way is remarkably underrated.

Disliking bands or artists JUST because they are mainstream is ignorant. Music isn't about status, it's about what you like. Being mainstream doesn't necessarily mean you're some pop making sell out. Even so, not all "pop" music is the manufactured bs that uneducated people imagine it to be. Nowadays it's closer to that, sure. Knocking a catchy tune together to make a quick pay, but it's not all like that. Too many so-called music fans are concerned with how they look, or association. Whatever happened to just liking what you like?

If you let a bands fans dictate who you listen to, you're gonna miss out on a lot of great stuff. Tool have some ****ing idiotic fans, but I've listened to them since '95, I'm not going to let some idiots stop me from liking a band. Britney Spears was seen buying a Radiohead CD, you think that should stop a Radiohead fan from liking them? Ultimately, though, people will indulge or avoid whatever they want, for whatever reasons. I just think that with so much great music around, from various eras, it's silly to restrict yourself.

ANYWAY, Raiyne, what do you think is your favourite RHCP song for say...guitar? Like, which song has guitar that you enjoy most? John Frusciante is an amazing player.

Michael Angelo Batio is an amazing guitarist as well.

Yup, annoying. Kind of how Fall Out Boy is annoying.

Did you just compare the Foo Fighters to Fall Out Boy? Thanks. Now I'm gonna consider suicide.

Kidding.


But...hmmm. I generally don't like "pop rock" or mainstream rock...but, I like these guys. The other mainstream rock bands I like are: Weezer, (old) Green Day, Tool and VERY selective Incubus. Other than that, I like bands nobody has ever heard of...and I like to keep it that way.

Since this is a follow up thread to my Stairway to Heaven thread...let me clear this up again...I posted that at a bad time. That song was horrible, and I know that now. :D

Batio is a bit too technically masturbatory for me. Just says nothing.

Oister, Tool aren't a "mainstream rock band". It's arguable as to whether they're rock at all. If people are calling Dream Theater a progressive metal band, then Tool definitely fall into that catagory. Both technically and creatively. You can't really call them mainstream considering they've only ever appeared in one of their music videos (Back in '92) and hardly ever do interviews or press. More so now, but it's only recent. They're still pretty much an unknown band over here.

Weezer get a bad rep for some reason, despite the fact that Rivers Cuomo is one of the most underrated songwriting genuises of the modern era.

Maynard James Keenan played Satan in a movie before.



Foo Fighters are nothing close to grunge, by the way. Their music has nothing like that in it. They're a rock band that happen to be mainstream. Red Hot Chili Peppers have never been grunge. If anything, they were a rock band with heavy funk influences that soon became another melodic rock band in the mainstream. The only funk element of their music is in the bass, now. I think Californication was an amazing album, and By the Way is remarkably underrated.

Disliking bands or artists JUST because they are mainstream is ignorant. Music isn't about status, it's about what you like. Being mainstream doesn't necessarily mean you're some pop making sell out. Even so, not all "pop" music is the manufactured bs that uneducated people imagine it to be. Nowadays it's closer to that, sure. Knocking a catchy tune together to make a quick pay, but it's not all like that. Too many so-called music fans are concerned with how they look, or association. Whatever happened to just liking what you like?

If you let a bands fans dictate who you listen to, you're gonna miss out on a lot of great stuff. Tool have some ****ing idiotic fans, but I've listened to them since '95, I'm not going to let some idiots stop me from liking a band. Britney Spears was seen buying a Radiohead CD, you think that should stop a Radiohead fan from liking them? Ultimately, though, people will indulge or avoid whatever they want, for whatever reasons. I just think that with so much great music around, from various eras, it's silly to restrict yourself.

ANYWAY, Raiyne, what do you think is your favourite RHCP song for say...guitar? Like, which song has guitar that you enjoy most? John Frusciante is an amazing player.

Yes, I'm aware that RHCPs were never grunge. Well, I made the comparison there because of the "noise" factor. I considered Foo Fighters just really noisy and generic, and quite a few of the RHCP's older tracks were rather heavy as well, such as "Nobody Weird like me", "Stone Cold Bush". The 'noisyness' of Mother's Milk was probably also due to more slap bass, rapping and less singing in that album. I hope the next Chili Peppers album has more funk or at least better songs that have more oomph than "C'mon Girl", "Wet Sand" and "Hey". "Dani California" was a great song though, best on the album IMO. :D

You're right, I'm probably just ignorant like that. I do enjoy a few songs here and there from mainstream rock though, like... two songs from Paramore, a couple of tracks here and there from A7X, Greenday, Arctic Monkeys and Goo Goo Dolls. Also, I'm a huge fan of L'Arc~en~Ciel, who I find pretty diverse and talented and I guess you could call them mainstream. I think I just can't be bothered to explore the music of the Foo Fighters, since they are already being labelled as mainstream. Note that I based my opinion of them mainly around the tracks that get airplay and Nirvana's "Teen Spirit", which I found extremely overrated, so it also could be that I haven't heard their 'true side'.

I still can't decide on my favourite song. I think the guitar work in "Under the Bridge" is amazing, and really compliments the vocals well. The slide solo in "Scar Tissue" really brings out the emotion in the song. "Pretty Little Ditty" is a nice upbeat song to listen to in the morning, half mellow and half happy. The outro in "Sir Psycho Sexy" symbolises an orgasm, and its great to listen to as well. The solo of "Dani California" is really rocking, and I think thats one of his best heavy rock solos. Call me indecisive, I say I'm just spread too thin over all their songs, hehe.

I can't get enough of John Frusciante. Even though his guitar work is simple, he really puts thought and emotion into the songs and thats what makes it so amazing. Also, I think its awesome that he improvises in each live performance. In my opinion, 'Live at Slane Castle' was their best live performance.

Batio is a bit too technically masturbatory for me. Just says nothing.

Oister, Tool aren't a "mainstream rock band". It's arguable as to whether they're rock at all. If people are calling Dream Theater a progressive metal band, then Tool definitely fall into that catagory. Both technically and creatively. You can't really call them mainstream considering they've only ever appeared in one of their music videos (Back in '92) and hardly ever do interviews or press. More so now, but it's only recent. They're still pretty much an unknown band over here.

Weezer get a bad rep for some reason, despite the fact that Rivers Cuomo is one of the most underrated songwriting genuises of the modern era.

I agree, I don't find Michael Angelo Batio nor Yngwie Malmsteem's work engaging at all. At least John Petrucci makes some good tunes, his solo album, "Suspended Animation" is pretty good.

I liked Weezer in the old days, never really heard from them now. "Island in the Sun" is my favourite Weezer song. Rivers Cuomo is pretty cool, albeit a little weird.

Yes, I'm aware that RHCPs were never grunge. Well, I made the comparison there because of the "noise" factor. I considered Foo Fighters just really noisy and generic, and quite a few of the RHCP's older tracks were rather heavy as well, such as "Nobody Weird like me", "Stone Cold Bush". The 'noisyness' of Mother's Milk was probably also due to more slap bass, rapping and less singing in that album. I hope the next Chili Peppers album has more funk or at least better songs that have more oomph than "C'mon Girl", "Wet Sand" and "Hey". "Dani California" was a great song though, best on the album IMO. :D

You're right, I'm probably just ignorant like that. I do enjoy a few songs here and there from mainstream rock though, like... two songs from Paramore, a couple of tracks here and there from A7X, Greenday, Arctic Monkeys and Goo Goo Dolls. Also, I'm a huge fan of L'Arc~en~Ciel, who I find pretty diverse and talented and I guess you could call them mainstream. I think I just can't be bothered to explore the music of the Foo Fighters, since they are already being labelled as mainstream. Note that I based my opinion of them mainly around the tracks that get airplay and Nirvana's "Teen Spirit", which I found extremely overrated, so it also could be that I haven't heard their 'true side'.

Stadium Arcadium was always going to be just another RHCP album, and that's fine, but they overcooked it with a double album. They were never gonna pull it off. I dig Dani California and...She's Only 18, though.

The way I see it, I don't have ANY guilty pleasures. I like what I like, guilty pleasures implies that I care what people think of what I like. Nobody should really be ashamed to admit what they like. Kitty and I share musical interests, but she likes some stuff I cannot stand. I'd honestly rather have cat AIDS than listen to Britney Spears, but she wholeheartedly just says "Yeah, I like it. Big ****ing deal.", and I respect that a lot more than trying to make excuses.

Nirvana weren't even the best grunge band. They were, to grunge, what The Beatles were to mainstream rock 'n' roll. They were at the right place at the right time in a movement that was bound to happen. I like 'em, massively overrated though.

I still can't decide on my favourite song. I think the guitar work in "Under the Bridge" is amazing, and really compliments the vocals well. The slide solo in "Scar Tissue" really brings out the emotion in the song. "Pretty Little Ditty" is a nice upbeat song to listen to in the morning, half mellow and half happy. The outro in "Sir Psycho Sexy" symbolises an orgasm, and its great to listen to as well. The solo of "Dani California" is really rocking, and I think thats one of his best heavy rock solos. Call me indecisive, I say I'm just spread too thin over all their songs, hehe.

I can't get enough of John Frusciante. Even though his guitar work is simple, he really puts thought and emotion into the songs and thats what makes it so amazing. Also, I think its awesome that he improvises in each live performance. In my opinion, 'Live at Slane Castle' was their best live performance.

Cabron was always one of my favourite songs, guitar wise, also She's Only 18 and of course, Under the Bridge. I think Breaking the Girl is up there, though. This Velvet Glove, always a fav.

His solo stuff is quite genius if you haven't heard it. Check out To Record Only Water for 10 Days (I think that's the title). Amazing album.

I agree, I don't find Michael Angelo Batio nor Yngwie Malmsteem's work engaging at all. At least John Petrucci makes some good tunes, his solo album, "Suspended Animation" is pretty good.

I liked Weezer in the old days, never really heard from them now. "Island in the Sun" is my favourite Weezer song. Rivers Cuomo is pretty cool, albeit a little weird.

Guitarist solo albums I tend to stay away from unless I'm studying it. For example, John 5, ex-Marilyn Manson guitarist; a technical BEAST. He is seriously a shit hot guitarist, but it's all technique, I can't get into it and enjoy it, I just APPRECIATE it, you know what I mean?

Saying that John Petrucci did an all guitar cover of Purple Rain by Prince, and it's amazing. Technically and creatively.

The way I see it, I don't have ANY guilty pleasures. I like what I like, guilty pleasures implies that I care what people think of what I like. Nobody should really be ashamed to admit what they like. Kitty and I share musical interests, but she likes some stuff I cannot stand. I'd honestly rather have cat AIDS than listen to Britney Spears, but she wholeheartedly just says "Yeah, I like it. Big ****ing deal.", and I respect that a lot more than trying to make excuses.

Cabron was always one of my favourite songs, guitar wise, also She's Only 18 and of course, Under the Bridge. I think Breaking the Girl is up there, though. This Velvet Glove, always a fav.

His solo stuff is quite genius if you haven't heard it. Check out To Record Only Water for 10 Days (I think that's the title). Amazing album.

Guitarist solo albums I tend to stay away from unless I'm studying it. For example, John 5, ex-Marilyn Manson guitarist; a technical BEAST. He is seriously a shit hot guitarist, but it's all technique, I can't get into it and enjoy it, I just APPRECIATE it, you know what I mean?

Saying that John Petrucci did an all guitar cover of Purple Rain by Prince, and it's amazing. Technically and creatively.

Britney Spears, haha. I have got to be more like you, and not care about what others think. I tend to get a little self concious and insecure sometimes. >_>

I get what you mean by appreciating it. Its like respecting other genres of music which you just aren't into. I only know John 5 as the guitarist who got fed up with Marylin Manson while playing "The Beautiful People"... and for "Sugar Foot Rag", that country/rockabilly song is awesome.

I'll definitely check Frusciante's solo album out.

I didn't know Prince was a guitarist, lol. I only knew him as a young Michael Jackson look-alike and pop singer. I'll check out some of his stuff. Whats a good album to start listening to? I'm not very keen on R&B. Jazz and Blues are cool though. Could you recommend me one with nice guitar work?

Britney Spears, haha. I have got to be more like you, and not care about what others think. I tend to get a little self concious and insecure sometimes. >_>

I get what you mean by appreciating it. Its like respecting other genres of music which you just aren't into. I only know John 5 as the guitarist who got fed up with Marylin Manson while playing "The Beautiful People"... and for "Sugar Foot Rag", that country/rockabilly song is awesome.

I'll definitely check Frusciante's solo album out.

I didn't know Prince was a guitarist, lol. I only knew him as a young Michael Jackson look-alike and pop singer. I'll check out some of his stuff. Whats a good album to start listening to? I'm not very keen on R&B. Jazz and Blues are cool though. Could you recommend me one with nice guitar work?

It's amazing how many people think of Prince as that kind of person.

He's mastered 27 instruments, he does more or less everything on his albums. Clapton, Vai, Petrucci, Satriani; they all hail Prince as one of the best guitarists ever. Victor Wooten praises his basswork, John Blackwell and Carl Palmer have fawned over his skill as a drummer.

He's not a "Michael Jackson" anything. Nothing against Jackson, mind you.

Here's a video of him performing at George Harrison's tribute show. Waits until the end and then pretty much wipes the floor with everyone, with a completely freestyled solo:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ifp_SVrlurY&rel=1

He comes in at 3 mins, 30 secs.

As for recommendations, I don't know really, he covers so many different styles. For guitar though, pretty much anything. Albums wise; Purple Rain, Prince, Musicology, 1999, Chaos and Disorder (If you can find it). I couldn't begin to pick just a few, he's got about 30 albums.

Purple Rain- Morris Day and the Motha ****ING TIME!


AS for guitarist nobody is as godlike as Thomas Erak.

Awesome performance. Paul Gilbert also did a great cover of that song, with Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater as well. :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o9QL0Jkb_GU

Good stuff.

Yeah, Paul Gilbert is a sicko.

Purple Rain- Morris Day and the Motha ****ING TIME!


AS for guitarist nobody is as godlike as Thomas Erak.

To suggest he's godlike is a bit silly, dude. He's just and above average player. No musician is a god, but if you wanna talk "guitar gods" he's not up there.

Purple Rain, Bam?
More like JUNGLE LOVE!

My dad likes Prince. He went to one of his concerts back in the '80s with my mom. Oh lawl'd. XD

Purple Rain, Bam?
More like JUNGLE LOVE!

I was referring to the Movie Purple Rain but OK!

OEOEOE I think I wanna know ya know ya

Yup, annoying. Kind of how Fall Out Boy is annoying.

FOB owns xD