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Dirge
05-21-2006, 03:45 AM
i must admit, im constantly hearing about problems about wizet.
when the game first left beta the community was promised that their characters would not be wiped.
but they were wiped.
if half of the hack reportings are true then this game seems to have a rediculous problem with it.
the screw up with the latest 2x exp event seems pretty unproffesional to me
considering i havnt heard a statement about it from them yet...
ive heard several stories from honost sources about their accounts being banned for reporting hacks (2 friends of mine were accused of misreporting hackers, even after the hackers were banned....makes little sense right?)
not to mention the endless forum posts about it.
the immature vulgarity on their website forum is also a turn off, but i know thats really not wizets fault there.
dont take this as flaming wizet, i think they made a great game here, but i think their support of their global community is seriously lacking.
Yukinari
05-21-2006, 03:47 AM
I agree with you there :p I'm guessing they're taking all the hacking a little too far. Getting everyone is there only plan I guess. I've seen there forum. Boy that place sucks. The x2 exp event time was also changed too. I missed the two weekends cause of that crap -.- They're losing their skills little by little :p
Glavus
05-21-2006, 03:48 AM
I also heard some of the employees were mad for some pay cuts or something, not sure if it was true though... But yeah wizet does have a lot of problems :( .
!! Glavus !!
Envious
05-21-2006, 03:49 AM
Well I have to agree with you about the 2x Exp thing but back in beta Wizet wasn't as reliable as it is now. Anyways it isn't easy to run a MMORPG.
Dirge
05-21-2006, 04:00 AM
Well I have to agree with you about the 2x Exp thing but back in beta Wizet wasn't as reliable as it is now. Anyways it isn't easy to run a MMORPG.
i agree, its not easy to run an mmo,and i give them props for what they've pulled off so far, but i have to admit ive seen better service from cheaper games.
ive seen better service from cheaper games.
It doesn't get much cheaper then free.
Your first post I couldn't agree more with though. Hopefully Wizet will get everything sorted out in some of the up coming patches.
Dirge
05-21-2006, 04:24 AM
It doesn't get much cheaper then free.
Your first post I couldn't agree more with though. Hopefully Wizet will get everything sorted out in some of the up coming patches.
excuse me, let me clarify
i meant cheaper made games.
Berrybenya
05-21-2006, 05:50 AM
yikes whats with gms and maplesea (maple japan as well) so stinky security -.-
Knuckle
05-21-2006, 05:52 AM
you can't blame them, it's our choice to play the game btw it's F2P so if u say We deserve service because we charge NX cash it's your choice then. But like I say you can't blame them, just enjoy playing the game, how it should be :)
Blancks
05-21-2006, 06:10 AM
Yeah Wizet has alot of problems right now. I'm still amazed of how far they have created this great game, though. :)
Ska-Boy
05-21-2006, 06:16 AM
MS needs to have GMs roving around without gigantic " LOOK I'M A GM!!!!" signs buzzing arount their heads. Kinda stupid there.
Wizet has really grown on me, think about all that we've recieved lately. Zakum, Ludibrium, 3rd job advances, cash shop, GM events and more, but they're slowly declining also.
NINJADUDEv.2
05-21-2006, 07:18 AM
yeah, wizet has screwd up a lot lately....pin resets resulted in hacked accounts, the loss of 2x exp, and the increasing number of hackers....
Prodigy
05-21-2006, 12:27 PM
FYI people, the Wizet staff is human, they, along with everyone else on the planet, make mistakes.
xXDeathzJrXx
05-21-2006, 01:50 PM
Such a great game so many ppl play it, u got expect some problem right?
Febreeze
05-21-2006, 07:56 PM
Just be quiet about the event they didnt release. They made up for it after all. The only thing you can complain is that hackers are now slowly taking over.:(
corasked
05-21-2006, 09:44 PM
Actually.
Wizet Did not have Paycuts (that was funny *** hell,who ever said it.).They are funded by uhh thoes one ppl who created dark ages.
this is what wizet posted.
Due to technical difficulties, several 'Double it Up!' events (MapleStory Happy Anniversary Event 04 2X Drop Rate & 2X EXP Event) did not start on time by schedule.
As of now, problem has been fixed and the rest of events will start on time.
There will be an addition on 'Double it Up' event schedule to make up the event hours. We will inform you for further information beforehand.
We apologize for your inconvenience.
-The MapleStory Staff-
Azn_King
05-21-2006, 09:48 PM
I agree with you there :p I'm guessing they're taking all the hacking a little too far. Getting everyone is there only plan I guess. I've seen there forum. Boy that place sucks. The x2 exp event time was also changed too. I missed the two weekends cause of that crap -.- They're losing their skills little by little :p
Ontopic: I agree completly.. That forum is a total mess.. U see more Porn related topics then the maplestory related topics..
Offtopic: What game is that in your sig?:confused:
TehMaster
05-21-2006, 11:01 PM
no one gives a crap about beta... idk y they even put it up... they already had kms out and jms.... wut the point of testing again
Garrec
05-21-2006, 11:59 PM
I have to agree with most of what the thread starter said, especially with the 2x exp issue. It's one thing for them to release the general event for our benefit, but it's another thing entirely for them to give us an exact schedule of days and hours of 2x exp, then have an entire day with no news or updates on the situation. Think we shouldn't complain? When they say "Mark your calendars and invite your friends. You will not regret clearing out your schedule for MapleStory. ... Do not miss out or you will regret it!" So many of us set our alarms or stayed up through the night to catch the exp times, only to be let down.
Now, surely it's not their fault they had a technical difficulty, so maybe we should give some slack for that... However, it was a 10 hour timespan from the start of the first 2x exp event to end of the last exp event during that day. I'd think it'd be more than enough time for them to realize the mistake and get at least SOME word out on the issue, either on the website or a scrolling message. Another thing that struck me as odd, is that in these 2x exp events, people are extremely active, and the amount of hackers taking advantage of it increases as well. You'd think they'd be more likely to have at least one GM patrolling during at least one of the event times that day to realize there was an issue, and to get a notice out sooner.
I also heard some of the employees were mad for some pay cuts or something, not sure if it was true though... But yeah wizet does have a lot of problems
I read about that on sw.net, not sure if it was true or not... supposedly a couple GMs quit or were fired... There was supposedly an issue on the mapleglobal forums where the GMs were arguing, and someone had taken a few screenshots to post on SW before the maple forum thread was deleted.
MS needs to have GMs roving around without gigantic " LOOK I'M A GM!!!!" signs buzzing arount their heads. Kinda stupid there.
Wizet has really grown on me, think about all that we've recieved lately. Zakum, Ludibrium, 3rd job advances, cash shop, GM events and more, but they're slowly declining also.
Agreed. GMs should do more patrolling as invisible (not to say they probably don't do plenty of that right now). They could also pose as "regular" characters, fit in with the players, and get to sample the community for what it really is, but with all the hackers around these days, they probably wouldn't have much time for that. How would a GM react if someone told him to 'cc plz' while he was just walking through the map?
They have made really good progress with the timely release of new content. Global still needs aqua road, new bosses and enemies, guild quest, papulutus, more ludi content, omega sector... enough to last a few more good months, but they must have something up their sleeves for after. I still believe that Zakum was an unnecessary release. Sure it's good for new content, but so few players can experience it for what it is. I would've rather had the Papulatus boss in Ludi released. It's not as high level, and much more practical considering the level progress of the community. Even if it only delayed Zakum by a month, I think it would've been a better release.
The only thing you can complain is that hackers are now slowly taking over.
Yeah... while people may argue that Wizet is doing just fine keeping the game updated, hackers always explode on to the scene, for every one that gets banned, there seems to be 10 more to take their place. Luckily the patches give us a solution, but so far, the hackers have quickly come back. Some of them don't even care, or will openly mock you, knowing that there's a slim chance a GM will actually come to the call of reports. Most people I talk to ingame will agree that the GMs simply aren't on enough.
Wizet Did not have Paycuts (that was funny *** hell,who ever said it.).They are funded by uhh thoes one ppl who created dark ages.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
no one gives a crap about beta... idk y they even put it up... they already had kms out and jms.... wut the point of testing again
My guess would be that they were testing the market, how fast the popularity would spread, how long interest would stay, and decide if there would be a reasonable market and success with a global version. They would need to do this before dedicating actual servers and staff members to a full time position of an official product.
oXFlaminMageXo
05-22-2006, 12:09 AM
Yeah that's true, but you've gotta admit Maple's getting better. Their services are faster. Back then, it would take like 5 months for one patch. O.o Now, it's like 2 or 1. Lol. Soon, it'll be better. I hope it would. :rolleyes:
Zadam
05-22-2006, 12:31 AM
Yeah! Screw Wizet those assholes, how dare they give us a free game and then practically slap us in the face with stuff like "allowing" hackers and causing the event to be late??? HOW DARE THEY?
Sure some people would call the opinions in this thread as being ungrateful brats, but WE DESERVE to be treated like royalty by Wizet! Its our birth-right to get a free game from them and they should work like dogs for practically no money for YEARS to make sure we are happy!
Saint
05-22-2006, 12:38 AM
The hacking is just because off some very dedicated programmers and a lot of noobish leachers.
I have to agree with most of what the thread starter said, especially with the 2x exp issue. It's one thing for them to release the general event for our benefit, but it's another thing entirely for them to give us an exact schedule of days and hours of 2x exp, then have an entire day with no news or updates on the situation. Think we shouldn't complain? When they say "Mark your calendars and invite your friends. You will not regret clearing out your schedule for MapleStory. ... Do not miss out or you will regret it!" So many of us set our alarms or stayed up through the night to catch the exp times, only to be let down.
Agreed. GMs should do more patrolling as invisible (not to say they probably don't do plenty of that right now). They could also pose as "regular" characters, fit in with the players, and get to sample the community for what it really is, but with all the hackers around these days, they probably wouldn't have much time for that. How would a GM react if someone told him to 'cc plz' while he was just walking through the map?
Firstly, although they said that you should mark your calendars, make room for Maple Story etc, you COULD get mad at them for not keeping their promise but that is highly unfair.
If you had gone to work, told your boss you were going to go on vacation for a week because they had a special deal at the airport or soemthing... and hten you go to the airport to find that it was burning down, well according to your logic that means you can complain to them about it.
Secondly, I think that GMS don't hide or walk around blending in as normal characters because GMS have special skills. People would assume they were hackers and report them.
Garrec
05-22-2006, 02:03 AM
Firstly, although they said that you should mark your calendars, make room for Maple Story etc, you COULD get mad at them for not keeping their promise but that is highly unfair.
If you had gone to work, told your boss you were going to go on vacation for a week because they had a special deal at the airport or soemthing... and hten you go to the airport to find that it was burning down, well according to your logic that means you can complain to them about it.
The analogy doesn't quite hold up to the situation I was describing. In my view, it would be like showing up to the airport to board the plane, having it not be there for some unknown, unmentioned reason, where nobody is telling you what's going on. A quick check at the departures board shows everything is fine, the plane should be leaving shortly. Everyone waiting to board the plane starts complaining loudly to each other as to what's going on, still with no information. Eventually, 12 hours later, an employee finally reveals that there was a technical issue and that the trip was rescheduled. Everyone goes back home, with varying feelings of annoyance, anger, or frustration, waiting for the new scheduled day to arrive.
If you're wondering where I got that, the paragraph I had written after the one you quoted, acknowledged their statement of a technical difficulty, and I gave my real opinion. What I was focusing on was their large delay in revealing an explanation of what was going on. Surely given the large span of time, a GM or some other staff member should've noticed what was happening, and created a message such as "Due to unknown technical difficulties, the Exp event will be rescheduled to a later date. We are sorry for the inconvenience." (Or a similar message). Being an event and all, where were the GMs? With such a large amount of people crowding into the servers, it is more likely for hackers or other game abusers to be present. This was the point I was trying to make.
I wasn't really angry, just disappointed from all this, since I spent extra time waiting around with hopes that maybe a GM would notice that something was wrong and fix it, allowing me to finish the rest of the event schedule. A few minutes into the event, and I knew something was wrong. Rather than log off, I waited patiently, half-heartedly gaining exp, waiting for it to be fixed. During this time I was also double checking the website to see if there were any news updates. The updates didn't come till much later in the day.
Secondly, I think that GMS don't hide or walk around blending in as normal characters because GMS have special skills. People would assume they were hackers and report them.
If GMs assumed the looks of regular characters, they would also have basic character skills as well... The point would be to not draw attention that they're GMs. So they could take on the look and power of a mid level warrior, with the same basic skills like powerstrike. Just they'd have additional powers of invisibility, map teleportation, and armed with a trusty ban cannon.
Thats true, but maybe all the GMS were busy? Cause I see it like, all the GMS were worrying more about trying to fix the problem then to tell people about it.
Also, if you became a GM wouldn't you want to keep your special skills? I would.
Hilgers08
05-22-2006, 02:53 AM
no institution or program will ever please everyone or be 100% efficient. oh well. they are improving. that shows me that they are at least trying to get better.
cut them some slack
NINJADUDEv.2
05-22-2006, 03:47 AM
yeah, i hafta agree that ms is slowly getig better with the patches and all, and the making of new worlds to control population on bera and scania...We have no reason to rush them for major improvements like omega sector and aquaroad.
BTW, AznKing, wut anime is ur sig from? o.O it looks like hentai....O.O
Zadam
05-22-2006, 04:41 AM
The airport analogy is retarded... You PAY REAL MONEY for plane tickets and so can complain if things don't go right, since you are paying for a service. This is completely free so your complaining rights = ZERO.
Satio
05-22-2006, 04:48 AM
The hacking is just because off some very dedicated programmers and a lot of noobish leachers.
Althought I don't hack or anything, I do have a friend who've I met on Team Speak from another friend that knows programming, and he says Nprotect is very simple to bypass. So that would explain the amount of people bieng able to use hacks probably.
I complain about this game usually because of all the hackers in this game, I do pay for cash shop items though as a way for saying keep up the good work. Maybe it will help them with something. I know I get items out of it but all they are is for appearance they're useless for me, if I REALLY wanted something I could just go on ebay and buy a good account and really get something worth my money. Now I don't wanna seem spoiled or anything that would fall under the term of what I'm saying but really I feel they need to stop making more expansions and stop making events and start putting all their attention and focus to the hackers and find out a way to stop them once and for all. Maybe they should try Gun Bound's method and start sueing hackers one by one.
Dirge
05-22-2006, 11:16 AM
The airport analogy is retarded... You PAY REAL MONEY for plane tickets and so can complain if things don't go right, since you are paying for a service. This is completely free so your complaining rights = ZERO.
i keep seeing ppl bring up the fact that the game is free, like its the only free mmo out there. but what about the time invested? i think it bothers people
to spend so much time on a game they love and see it slowly be degraded by cheaters. and when you invest as much time into mmo's as many ppl do, it DOES give you the right to complain. when problems occur with a game, i feel it should be maturely addressed, not passed off as "human error".
i personally really enjoy this game, and i only bring up the issues in the first place because i suspect that wizet may not realize how bad the problem is,
and its up to the community to inform them(reminds me of the final fantasy 11currency problem, square didnt do anything until it was out of control and the community screamed for a solution).
aznphoenix
05-22-2006, 09:55 PM
i think this game is fun and good o.0 only thing sucs bout it to me is um some of the people who play the game.. god they are annoying always beggin for stuff!
Dirge
05-22-2006, 11:00 PM
ms doesnt have the best community of players around, but the comminity here is alot better than runescape's and tibia's.
sure you see hackers and immature adolescents running rampant through the game, but the good people are there. i partied with 3 great maple story people and had fun not worrying punks and hackers, and thats what makes the difference to me: being able to still have fun with the community, even when a majority of them are pricks.
and the onrpg maplers impress me. we are the friendliest and most supportive group of ms players ive met (and we kick the most ***!).
MAY ONRPG RULE MAPLE STORY FOR ALL TIME! ;)
Zadam
05-22-2006, 11:29 PM
i keep seeing ppl bring up the fact that the game is free, like its the only free mmo out there. but what about the time invested? i think it bothers people
to spend so much time on a game they love and see it slowly be degraded by cheaters. and when you invest as much time into mmo's as many ppl do, it DOES give you the right to complain. when problems occur with a game, i feel it should be maturely addressed, not passed off as "human error"...
Wtf? Time "INVESTED"? What is this the fricken Stock Market? Your time hasn't been "invested", you've spent time playing a game and gaining enjoyment out of it. Enjoy it while you play it, and if you stop liking it, move on to something else. There is no "investment". And so what if there are other free mmo's out there? Whats that got to do with anything?
Dirge
05-23-2006, 12:30 AM
Wtf? Time "INVESTED"? What is this the fricken Stock Market? Your time hasn't been "invested", you've spent time playing a game and gaining enjoyment out of it. Enjoy it while you play it, and if you stop liking it, move on to something else. There is no "investment". And so what if there are other free mmo's out there? Whats that got to do with anything?
what about the guy who sits down and says "y'know ive been playing a cleric and i wanna try rogue. why? because i want to see what its like to be a high level rogue. so im going to work through all the low level places ive played a million times,
am bored as hell with, and cant wait to get past because i want to earn a high level rogue."
if you've played a lot of mmo's like i have, you'll see
this is the reality a majority of the ppl face. and its known as INVESTING TIME to earn something you want. in the example above the person wishes to legitamitly earn the right to have a high level rogue, but its not going to please him to know that there is a possibilty that some hacker can come along and **** all his work up for no real world reason.
i dont give a **** what anyone says, thats a right to complain in my eyes.
other "free" games take more measures to stop these kinds of things, and as successful as maple story is becoming, i think it should be something at th top of their agenda.
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