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Pandemonium
03-17-2008, 09:06 PM
Oh my lord. I don't know how many people I see sitting in town bragging about how high of a level their sharp mind is. All I see is a bunch of morons who wasted a bunch of AP that doesn't come at ease later on. I will personally help you guys to learn how to read monsters so you don't waste countless AP on Sharp Mind.

So here I'll explain what they do so you know what mode they are in.

Defense
You know the monster is in defense if the monster starts walking slowly to you and around you, also has a bubble ontop of their heads.

Smash
If the monster has the pop up thing ontop of their heads and they are charging at you. Even if you don't see it at the top of their heads(like golem because they are so tall) you know they are in smash if they stand there for a second, then just charge you. It's common sense to see that they were charging the skill.

Counter
This is the most obvious, if I ever see one of you run and attack a monster just standing there you are a moron.
Counter is when they just stand there. That's it, it's pretty obvious to call out.

Windmill
Windmill is also pretty simple to call out. Not many monsters our level do it, but the bosses and field bosses all do it. You can call it out because what I found they all do a starting action. Like Dark Knight put up his sword, and Golem put up his arm. You'll also notice that they stand still like counter also, but they are pulsating(powering up) as they do a action so you know that they are going to pull something out and kapwn your ***, so run back.

Normal Attack
You know they are going to normal attack you if they are circling you without that box on top of their heads. Or if they are just running at you with nothing on their heads, or never stopped to power up or nothing.

Aggro
You know you pull aggro when they have 2 exclamation marks above their heads. If they have one then they spotted you and are waiting for a opportunity to strike.

If you get Sharp Mind past rank F, then your stupid.

End story.

Greed
03-17-2008, 09:13 PM
Lmao did someone actually brag about that?

daroth
03-17-2008, 09:14 PM
whats sharp mind do?

Pandemonium
03-17-2008, 09:17 PM
Lmao did someone actually brag about that?

Yah, in Tir at the town square. They were like, "I just got mine to rank A," and other guys were like, "Mines at rank B," it was pretty sad.

Lorek
03-17-2008, 09:35 PM
Yah, in Tir at the town square. They were like, "I just got mine to rank A," and other guys were like, "Mines at rank B," it was pretty sad.

Oh damn XD

Do somethin usefull get almost Rank B windmill if you had the AP to rank it from C =_=

Bryan
03-17-2008, 09:41 PM
That's really a personal opinion, Sharp Mind helps at early levels, no joke. The people with Sharp Mind will have the last laugh when they know whatever the monster's doing, as in later generations you won't be able to tell by the "!!" marks or the stance. So good luck.

Greed
03-17-2008, 09:46 PM
That's really a personal opinion, Sharp Mind helps at early levels, no joke. The people with Sharp Mind will have the last laugh when they know whatever the monster's doing, as in later generations you won't be able to tell by the "!!" marks or the stance. So good luck.

You can pretty much tell from the way they move. Half the time it doesn't even show the skill for me. Just a little "?" where the box is.

ultimaforce
03-17-2008, 09:46 PM
That's really a personal opinion, Sharp Mind helps at early levels, no joke. The people with Sharp Mind will have the last laugh when they know whatever the monster's doing, as in later generations you won't be able to tell by the "!!" marks or the stance. So good luck.

Is Sharp Mind Permanent?

wwenbo
03-17-2008, 09:50 PM
Sharp mind takes the fun out of battles, it a lot more fun to figure out what they are doing rather than letting the game tell you.

ultimaforce
03-17-2008, 09:55 PM
Not when your unexperienced and lose a 29k accesory...

Greed
03-17-2008, 10:02 PM
Not when your unexperienced and lose a 29k accesory...

Tip #2: Don't wear expensive things when fighting.
Tip #3: Get better at fighting.

wwenbo
03-17-2008, 10:25 PM
Not when your unexperienced and lose a 29k accesory...

Just bless all your expensive stuff, and try not to die.

Lorek
03-17-2008, 10:44 PM
IDK where your buying your accessories at (the things by your head slot in Inventory menu) because they are not out, but players sell them for 5k =_=

Nuferex
03-17-2008, 10:53 PM
Sharpmind is for like newcomers to MMORPGS probably or noobs that don't understand the stances of the attacks or anything. Or think they actually need it.

Pandemonium
03-17-2008, 11:20 PM
You don't need it because every monster shows the same type of actions before they do that move. Sharp mind is a giant waste of AP which is more important at beginner levels to have.

Bryan, show me a video where you would need sharp mind to know what it was thinking. Also, BTW some people at rank A sharp mind still can't see what a wisp does. So that adds to the waste of AP. If they never had sharp mind at the start and learned what monsters were planning and all so they reacted faster and read better. Then they would never run into the problem when a boss or something gives them a ?.

You're stupid if you can't read without it, and you're bound to suck because you'll react slower to monsters on the account that you have to look at the box on their acts before you act. when you get used to it without looking at the box it comes to you much quicker and its like your sub conscience is telling you what to do.

I don't know how many times I've pressed a button sub-consciously that saved my life.

Arri
03-17-2008, 11:44 PM
hmm.....Fake smash, fake counter, the list goes on

Plus, I have more will than you, means I'll stay alive from a hit more often then you will :P

Pandemonium
03-17-2008, 11:50 PM
hmm.....Fake smash, fake counter, the list goes on

Plus, I have more will than you, means I'll stay alive from a hit more often then you will :P

Wait what?

What are you talking about and to who?

Sharp mind doesn't give will... what?
I'm confused.

Greed
03-18-2008, 02:33 AM
hmm.....Fake smash, fake counter, the list goes on


Ugh I hate it when the Golem does that. Fake def and then pounds me down with a normal atk. Stupid rock. >__>'

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 02:51 AM
Ugh I hate it when the Golem does that. Fake def and then pounds me down with a normal atk. Stupid rock. >__>'

That's never happened to me. I can't see it's head when I'm fighting though. So I judge by it's actions.

Greed
03-18-2008, 02:56 AM
That's never happened to me. I can't see it's head when I'm fighting though. So I judge by it's actions.

yea, when it starts roaring it's getting ready to use either smash or def. And if it starts stomping down then it's going to use Def. So I tried to activate smash during the time it was smashing its fists but it suddenly canceled and smacked me with its giant (hand?) rock.

Also, anyone get this weird glitch when they try to smash a monster that has no skill on but somehow get knocked back and damaged at the same time? I mean it didn't counter or anything but I was just knocked back and a chunk of my hp went away D: I'll see if I can get it in a screen..

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 03:14 AM
yea, when it starts roaring it's getting ready to use either smash or def. And if it starts stomping down then it's going to use Def. So I tried to activate smash during the time it was smashing its fists but it suddenly canceled and smacked me with its giant (hand?) rock.

Also, anyone get this weird glitch when they try to smash a monster that has no skill on but somehow get knocked back and damaged at the same time? I mean it didn't counter or anything but I was just knocked back and a chunk of my hp went away D: I'll see if I can get it in a screen..

Don't you listen in school. Smash doesn't always work 100% of the time. That's why in school they always teaching your about the team work thing, like the archers stun so you can get 100% smash chance. I learned that it didn't work all the time fighting that black warrior field boss. Still easy to know what it was thinking.

And monsters usually hold def for 2-3 seconds, so casting smash takes around that much time, so you have to watch out if it cancels it or not.

I don't think that counts as a fake because it cancels the skill first, you still got that split second to jump into your defense.

Greed
03-18-2008, 03:21 AM
Don't you listen in school. Smash doesn't always work 100% of the time. That's why in school they always teaching your about the team work thing, like the archers stun so you can get 100% smash chance. I learned that it didn't work all the time fighting that black warrior field boss. Still easy to know what it was thinking.

And monsters usually hold def for 2-3 seconds, so casting smash takes around that much time, so you have to watch out if it cancels it or not.

I don't think that counts as a fake because it cancels the skill first, you still got that split second to jump into your defense.

I had it stunned. I went in with a 1+smash and smash loaded, did the animation and during the kick part, instead of me knocking good ole golem back to kingdom come, I get knocked back to kingdom here and now. it happens every now and then and it's pretty annoying.

As for the fake, it attacks as soon as it takes out Def. So I'm running to it with smash loaded and soon as I get within 3 feet of attacking range, it takes out def and smacks me. There's no time to get into counter/def in that split second since it takes more 2 seconds (assuming there's no lag) for both def and counter to start up. It takes 1.5 seconds for WM but I'm still learning how to counter with that.

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 03:45 AM
I had it stunned. I went in with a 1+smash and smash loaded, did the animation and during the kick part, instead of me knocking good ole golem back to kingdom come, I get knocked back to kingdom here and now. it happens every now and then and it's pretty annoying.

As for the fake, it attacks as soon as it takes out Def. So I'm running to it with smash loaded and soon as I get within 3 feet of attacking range, it takes out def and smacks me. There's no time to get into counter/def in that split second since it takes more 2 seconds (assuming there's no lag) for both def and counter to start up. It takes 1.5 seconds for WM but I'm still learning how to counter with that.

Oh, that happens some times. Have to be careful because smash takes a while to load. The monsters can switch at any moment. Sharp Mind can't save you from that.

Greed
03-18-2008, 04:00 AM
Oh, that happens some times. Have to be careful because smash takes a while to load. The monsters can switch at any moment. Sharp Mind can't save you from that.

Exactly! And sometimes even a little lag = death.

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 09:40 PM
But ya. In the end if you got this skill you'll notice in the future you wasted ap you could of used for actually helpful skills like production mastery or something.

Arri
03-18-2008, 10:16 PM
But ya. In the end if you got this skill you'll notice in the future you wasted ap you could of used for actually helpful skills like production mastery or something.

Until you try to smash a goblin only to get 3-hit combo'd and killed cause it was waiting to trick you :P

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 10:22 PM
Until you try to smash a goblin only to get 3-hit combo'd and killed cause it was waiting to trick you :P

That doesn't happen because you usually aggro it first. Even then you should just do a N+1 combo because it will die anyways. O.o

Greed
03-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Until you try to smash a goblin only to get 3-hit combo'd and killed cause it was waiting to trick you :P

That would happen with sharp mind anyway..

Sick Of Fucking Ragnarok
03-18-2008, 10:24 PM
lmao i'll do what i want, you don't have any right to say what i can or can not rank up. Srsly people like you, who tell others what to rank up and say they'll suk if they don't, need to get a life. Play as you wish and don't listen to retarted point nazis who have nothing better to do then tell you how to play the game. Thats what makes mabi fun, making ur character the way u want, so keep ur stupid ap and generic builds, i'll level up my skills the way i want :P

Greed
03-18-2008, 10:29 PM
lmao i'll do what i want, you don't have any right to say what i can or can not rank up. Srsly people like you, who tell others what to rank up and say they'll suk if they don't, need to get a life. Play as you wish and don't listen to retarted point nazis who have nothing better to do then tell you how to play the game. Thats what makes mabi fun, making ur character the way u want, so keep ur stupid ap and generic builds, i'll level up my skills the way i want :P

Glad to see our advice is going to a good cause.

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 10:31 PM
lmao i'll do what i want, you don't have any right to say what i can or can not rank up. Srsly people like you, who tell others what to rank up and say they'll suk if they don't, need to get a life. Play as you wish and don't listen to retarted point nazis who have nothing better to do then tell you how to play the game. Thats what makes mabi fun, making ur character the way u want, so keep ur stupid ap and generic builds, i'll level up my skills the way i want :P

I'm not telling you what you can and cannot do. I'm telling you that you're a moron if you waste ap on that skill because its pretty damn obvious to see what the monster is doing, and "fake skills" aren't seen though because you have sharp mind, you'd just feel dumber and blame the game on glitches and errors.

You can go back to sucking at the game though.

You really need to learn the definition of retard, and learned what the term Nazi really means as well.

You fail, goodbye. n.n

Sick Of Fucking Ragnarok
03-18-2008, 10:39 PM
I'm not telling you what you can and cannot do. I'm telling you that you're a moron if you waste ap on that skill because its pretty damn obvious to see what the monster is doing, and "fake skills" aren't seen though because you have sharp mind, you'd just feel dumber and blame the game on glitches and errors.

You can go back to sucking at the game though.

You really need to learn the definition of retard, and learned what the term Nazi really means as well.

You fail, goodbye. n.n

so ur telling me i'm dumb if i level up a certin skill, thats the same thing, and my grandfarther was a nazi and my cousin is mentally disabled so i think i know what thoese terms mean, ur just a jerk who thinks hes cool, because u can twist ppls worlds around and try to make an argument, when in truth it is a weak statment backed up by calling me stupid, learn how to debate things before u try to take me on again, u failed :P

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 10:44 PM
so ur telling me i'm dumb if i level up a certin skill, thats the same thing, and my grandfarther was a nazi and my cousin is mentally disabled so i think i know what thoese terms mean, ur just a jerk who thinks hes cool, because u can twist ppls worlds around and try to make an argument, when in truth it is a weak statment backed up by calling me stupid, learn how to debate things before u try to take me on again, u failed :P

You know you contradicted yourself in every sentence.

And it's obvious why I made this thread. I'm helping out new users so they don't make the mistake and get that skill. 2HP is nothing, and the skill doesn't help at what YOU WILL know after fighting a couple of monsters. Waste of time.

Maybe you might need it, because you seem a little slow.

Sick Of Fucking Ragnarok
03-18-2008, 10:54 PM
You know you contradicted yourself in every sentence.

And it's obvious why I made this thread. I'm helping out new users so they don't make the mistake and get that skill. 2HP is nothing, and the skill doesn't help at what YOU WILL know after fighting a couple of monsters. Waste of time.

Maybe you might need it, because you seem a little slow.

please point this out to me, i don't see any controdiction in any of my statements, back up ur arguments with facts, what i said was very clear, DON'T LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND PLAY THE GAME HOW YOU WANT, now for most people who can read, they can understand this, u sure i'm the one who a little slow?

if u wanna keep this up, let's take it to pm i don't really like flamming and or off topic fights -_-

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 10:58 PM
please point this out to me, i don't see any controdiction in any of my statements, back up ur arguments with facts, what i said was very clear, DON'T LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND PLAY THE GAME HOW YOU WANT, now for most people who can read, they can understand this, u sure i'm the one who a little slow?

if u wanna keep this up, let's take it to pm i don't really like flamming and or off topic fights -_-

It's like you skimmed through my post picking up the least bit of everything. I won't need to continue this on the fact that you're a waste of my time. Go back read my OP. Then play Mabinogi. Then, release that you were trying to make people suck in the game and wish they had the AP for stuff but.. NO They spent it on a skill they didn't need after level 10. Then stop posting in this thread, and leave because you're a waste of my time.

Also, keep reading the moron part over and over.

Sick Of Fucking Ragnarok
03-18-2008, 11:12 PM
It's like you skimmed through my post picking up the least bit of everything. I won't need to continue this on the fact that you're a waste of my time. Go back read my OP. Then play Mabinogi. Then, release that you were trying to make people suck in the game and wish they had the AP for stuff but.. NO They spent it on a skill they didn't need after level 10. Then stop posting in this thread, and leave because you're a waste of my time.

Also, keep reading the moron part over and over.

lol i love how people think there better then every1 else, ur not that great, no point in continuing this because i don't have the time or patience to argue with online ppl, on a final note, i hear all the time that the skills i level are a waist of time, it gets annoying, looking through a players pov i don't want ppl telling me not to level up a skill becasue they think it's not important, i feel that i did not waist my time, nor do i wish i put my ap else where, i play the game the way i want, if u do mess up, take the good with the bad, sometimes the skill that other, more immature players say are useless, are actually great and help alot.

Pandemonium
03-18-2008, 11:23 PM
lol i love how people think there better then every1 else, ur not that great, no point in continuing this because i don't have the time or patience to argue with online ppl, on a final note, i hear all the time that the skills i level are a waist of time, it gets annoying, looking through a players pov i don't want ppl telling me not to level up a skill becasue they think it's not important, i feel that i did not waist my time, nor do i wish i put my ap else where, i play the game the way i want, if u do mess up, take the good with the bad, sometimes the skill that other, more immature players say are useless, are actually great and help alot.

That's basically telling someone in maple story to put all their stats into str when they're a mage.

It's stupid, you can do it, but in the end it's stupid. Why would you want to waste all your AP causing you to have to P2P to get the build you wanted correctly. That's just plain dumb.

There are skills in every game you don't need at all... out of all the skills in this game there are none I would tell people not to level up except this one. Because it obviously does squat nothing.

"lol i love how people think there better then every1 else, ur not that great"

Time's like this, only 3 characters are needed:

L2P

HellYeahDota
03-19-2008, 01:37 AM
Mine's E. o_O
Is that terribly bad?
I'm planning to rebirth so.. it shouldn't be THAT big of a waste right?

Arri
03-19-2008, 02:13 AM
This is pissing me off.


First off, Pandemonium, you calling everyone a moron if they rank up a certain skill is a subtle way of telling them how to play, no matter how you look at it.

Second, you starting a giant argument with Ragnarok just further prooves our points that you are, in fact, trying to make people play a certain way.

Heres a fun little fact, number cruncher: Mabinogi is in no way, shape, or form, your generic MMO. There are no "gimp" skills, and your character will not be "gimp" because of its choises (unless of course, the player sucks at fighting, but thats another story)

The only thing your going at is being an elitest, the same people who'll kick people out of parties or guilds because "OMG, You dont have X item that gives you +1 Y stat! FUKIN NOOB LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL *Kick*"

I don't care if you guys send me hate PMs trying to tell me how your just giving advice and I shouldn't have locked this. You crossed the line of giving advice and went straight into flamewar eliteism the moment you started that arguement.

In closing


Kthxbai