hey guys i really love pvp and want a game that invovles a lot of Good pvp..anything is cool except.. WoW.. Shaiya and shadowbane

WoW has horrible PvP.
If you want good group PvP Guildwars.

Metin 2 UK and Guild wars.

Metin 2 UK has:
Attacking other empires
Going on "PVP FREE" to be able to attack anyone above level 15
"Dueling" other people (no loss of guild points, just a spar to see who's stronger. No EXP loss either, if you die)
Guild wars (attack the other guild that your guild leader challenged. You get teled to a differant map and then beat the crap outta eachother til one team reaches a certian ammount of kills)
Not as much grinding as normal MMOs, but still some, expecially when you get higher leveled.

RF Online the game is a big pvp, is bellato vs accretia

EvE Online has the most meaningful PvP.. but it's p2p so yeah..

I Used To Play Conquer Online...And..It Had Open PVP And Guild Wars..If You Die In A Guild War, You Get Taken To Jail And Stuff...Really Fun

Guildwars, need more?

RF Online the game is a big pvp, is bellato vs accretia

actualy there is 3 different races not just 2

Shadowbane for life!!!

actualy there is 3 different races not just 2

i know but coras are so dumbs XD

Meh, they can be good as well. Maybe not on official, but...meh.