I don't go off on people for no reason. I rarely go off on people at all. I simply say what I think, some of the time with no biased emotion, some of the time arrogantly. If I think that something is a minor achievement, I will say it. If something is pissing me off, I will say it.

If I think Zac whines too much, I'm not afraid to say it. Hell, if Ala pissed me off, I would say it to his face and argue to hell with him if he retaliated. But that's a different situation. On a forum, where most of the community thinks of me as an *** or something, I'll post, in most cases, no pointless or biased statements whatsoever. If someone I don't like says something I don't like, sure, I'll be arrogant, but I'll say my point and I won't go "bcuz i fked ur mom last nite" or any of that. Example:

Person A: lol snipers suck bowmasters and night lords rock

Me: Yeah, sure, you can tell that to every other person that agrees with you, because I and probably the whole community don't care what the hell you have to say, biased piece of shit.

Point I'm trying to make: I throw out an insult when it's relevant to what I'm saying, if I want to, as long as it gets the point through. I could care less what the person thinks of me, or exactly the opposite, I could want to be friends with the person and post something like this:

Person B: hey i'm starting new on scania, wondering if anyone would like to bl me

Me: Go ahead and BL me, my IGN is Hybe. Also in Scania, obviously. I could help you out if you need it.

So there we go, the way I post in a nutshell. Feel free to try and disprove me, I'll either disprove what you tried to disprove or agree and admit that as an exception (Or if I get a bunch of posts that I can't counter against, I'll just admit that I'm wrong about this whole thing and [honestly] admit that I am unaware that my posts are all the opposite of what was aforementioned).

You like to speak your mind whoppeddoo. This wasnt really necessary ben, just keep on posting the way youve been doing it, its great.

yeah well ummm...Your a towel!!!

i get what your saying as im alot like you in im very blunt and will often speak my mind even if it isn't welcome.

but you also have to understand there are times when holding your tongue is a much better option.

and yes i know why you posted this thread but to be honest if your free to do that then people are free to get offended and retaliate

well I respect you for having an opinion, but didn't we all learn that thing in First grade about "If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all?" You can have an opinion, its just that the way you can say it doesnt have to be negative.

I also agree with the statement (forgot where I heard it) but it says that dont say anything on the internet that you wouldnt say to someones face. Also, dont say things you wouldnt mind saying to your grandma. Would you call your grandma a piece of shit?

I completely agree with Olaph on the part about Speaking your mind, but its also good to hold your tongue in certain situations. Remember that lady who called all the Widows of 9/11 Harpies and Gold-Diggers? I do. Well, you could argue that she was "speaking her mind" but do you support her?

Whining (as you say Zac did) is a sign of immaturity. But, So is what your doing. What IS "mature" is having the sense to say things, but in the right situations.

The mere fact that you are making an entire board about your situation with Zac, shows that you do, in fact, care what others think about you, else there would be no need to post this retort. Just because it's the internet, doesn't mean people's feelings can't get hurt. You've got to learn to hold your tounge in certain situations when it is not appropriate to continue to bait and piss off a fellow forum member. Zac has apoligized to you and it is most definately inappropriate to continue and try to defend yourself through threads like this. Being blunt is one thing, but continuing to torture a member after he had already asked you to stop is quite another. Using this thread as an excuse is quite pathetic.

Attack of the...







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Don't worry xChrome, they just take things a little too personally. No need to defend yourself with a new thread.

Ben... your a good member here.. dont let simple arguments get you banned -.-

Like the others have said its best not to speak your mind all of the time...

Some things are better left unsaid. So stop acting so childish (no offence D=)
and drop this whole thing.

Ben... your a good member here.. dont let simple arguments get you banned -.-

Like the others have said its best not to speak your mind all of the time...

Some things are better left unsaid. So stop acting so childish (no offence D=)
and drop this whole thing.

Wrong! The opinions and the truth should not be kept hidden inside!

Debate people! DEBATE! Use the forums to it's full purpose without flaming and crying!

Lol you cant debate in maple section, in fact; you cant even discuss a topic...theres always going to be a statement that goes too far, and there goes the thread...locked.

And chrome, just let things the way they are and move on, just drop it; you'll find out its easier that way.

True, but sometimes i wish there would be the debates over which class is better. :)

We could throw out some really good opinions that I could use in my guide. :p

True, but sometimes i wish there would be the debates over which class is better. :)

We could throw out some really good opinions that I could use in my guide. :p

Debating isnt bad. In fact, isnt that the reason why we have a place like this? To discuss and share our opinions? The only problem is when it gets personal and then people start getting upset, followed by others who "pile-on" stress.

Let's bring together the true spirit of OnRPG forums! YAY!

Go-go-power posters. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, go-go-power posters!

Together, we shall rid the forums of absolute gay shit they bores the hell out of all readers.







:-/

the reason theres barely ever a debate on onrpg in general is alot of you can't tell the difference between a counter argument and a flame.

also ive seen a debate turn into a flame war due to peoples ignorance and stubbornness..if they start loosing the debate or someone gives hard evidence against the other sides points..someone will start an insult or a personal attack and then the flaming starts.

well I respect you for having an opinion, but didn't we all learn that thing in First grade about "If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all?"

I skipped.

And Olaph is le right, alot of people just can't stand being wrong. Tis annoying at times.

Also ben, we all still love you, and personally I'll stand by ya.

The mere fact that you are making an entire board about your situation with Zac, shows that you do, in fact, care what others think about you, else there would be no need to post this retort. Just because it's the internet, doesn't mean people's feelings can't get hurt. You've got to learn to hold your tounge in certain situations when it is not appropriate to continue to bait and piss off a fellow forum member. Zac has apoligized to you and it is most definately inappropriate to continue and try to defend yourself through threads like this. Being blunt is one thing, but continuing to torture a member after he had already asked you to stop is quite another. Using this thread as an excuse is quite pathetic.
Had you read any of the posts by other people in threads where I "attacked" Zac, you would find my reason for making this thread.

Simply, it's because I want people to know that I don't spit fire at people for no reason whatsoever like everyone's been saying for the past few...well, I don't know, but people have been saying it.

As for the part where you say I'm making this thread about my argument with Zac, well, yes, that's partially true, but not because I flamed (That wasn't even a flame, that was the hard truth <_<) him, because everyone else SAID I flamed him. You can think what you want, the reason I made this thread is a known fact in my mind. I am in no way defending myself, rather, I'm explaining myself.

Read my signature. What you said about him crying and whining was not helpful at all. No one really gives a damn if you think he's a whiner, he asked people to stop annoying/bullying him, and then you throw in the assholeish comment about him being a baby. I think everyone needs to go into the general section and watch the "Posting and You" video, if they still have it up.

I don't go off on people for no reason. I rarely go off on people at all. I simply say what I think, some of the time with no biased emotion, some of the time arrogantly. If I think that something is a minor achievement, I will say it. If something is pissing me off, I will say it.

If I think Zac whines too much, I'm not afraid to say it. Hell, if Ala pissed me off, I would say it to his face and argue to hell with him if he retaliated. But that's a different situation. On a forum, where most of the community thinks of me as an *** or something, I'll post, in most cases, no pointless or biased statements whatsoever. If someone I don't like says something I don't like, sure, I'll be arrogant, but I'll say my point and I won't go "bcuz i fked ur mom last nite" or any of that. Example:

Person A: lol snipers suck bowmasters and night lords rock

Me: Yeah, sure, you can tell that to every other person that agrees with you, because I and probably the whole community don't care what the hell you have to say, biased piece of shit.

Point I'm trying to make: I throw out an insult when it's relevant to what I'm saying, if I want to, as long as it gets the point through. I could care less what the person thinks of me, or exactly the opposite, I could want to be friends with the person and post something like this:

Person B: hey i'm starting new on scania, wondering if anyone would like to bl me

Me: Go ahead and BL me, my IGN is Hybe. Also in Scania, obviously. I could help you out if you need it.

So there we go, the way I post in a nutshell. Feel free to try and disprove me, I'll either disprove what you tried to disprove or agree and admit that as an exception (Or if I get a bunch of posts that I can't counter against, I'll just admit that I'm wrong about this whole thing and [honestly] admit that I am unaware that my posts are all the opposite of what was aforementioned).

If you don't care what anyone else thinks of you then leave it at that. This is the result of you doing that so you should be happy, right? Trying to add insult to injury really doesn't make anyone think too much of your opinion though. You are not really getting anything across other than you are a jerk.

*Gasp* Seeking the approval of internet friends!
Ohmigosh! Attention sneaker!

To tell you the truth, XCHROME or BEN as others seem to call you,I dunno how old you are but I found your comment kind of amusing and immature. In my opinion, the statements made in this forum affect you too much. If your nature is to be a kind of blunt-straight-to-the-point kind of guy then so be it. You shouldn't care when others flame you. If this kind of shit gets under your nerves then you shouldn't be here. Truth is there's much more bullshit and drama in real life, and to let the drama in a forum affect you it's kinda immature. The flamer can be on the opposite side of the world for ****'s sake and as we all know everybody is 7ft tall, heavy as a ton, and full of muscle behind a computer screen. In my opinion, anyone who flames you, you shouldn't give a shit, and you shouldn't even respond but rather play it off, so at least it gets on his/her nerves. Trust me man, save your anger and frustration for real life.

To tell you the truth, XCHROME or BEN as others seem to call you,I dunno how old you are but I found your comment kind of amusing and immature. In my opinion, the statements made in this forum affect you too much. If your nature is to be a kind of blunt-straight-to-the-point kind of guy then so be it. You shouldn't care when others flame you. If this kind of shit gets under your nerves then you shouldn't be here. Truth is there's much more bullshit and drama in real life, and to let the drama in a forum affect you it's kinda immature. The flamer can be on the opposite side of the world for ****'s sake and as we all know everybody is 7ft tall, heavy as a ton, and full of muscle behind a computer screen. In my opinion, anyone who flames you, you shouldn't give a shit, and you shouldn't even respond but rather play it off, so at least it gets on his/her nerves. Trust me man, save your anger and frustration for real life.
And who the hell are you? You've barely been around to know what Ben's like, you're only getting descriptions from flamer's opinions. And loles if you're trying to use correct grammar, because it's an epic phail with excessive use of commas. All Ben is doing is expressing his thoughts, no need for a mob to gather round.

And who the hell are you? You've barely been around to know what Ben's like, you're only getting descriptions from flamer's opinions. And loles if you're trying to use correct grammar, because it's an epic phail with excessive use of commas. All Ben is doing is expressing his thoughts, no need for a mob to gather round.

Question is who the hell are you! All the points he was commenting on where from Bens post, and plus hes right. Ben shouldnt really care what people say, if he likes to be blunt and to the point then he should stay that way.

Question is who the hell are you! All the points he was commenting on where from Bens post, and plus hes right. Ben shouldnt really care what people say, if he likes to be blunt and to the point then he should stay that way.

I've been here long enough, and it doesn't matter to me whether know me or not. And if you're trying to be funny by using my own words against me, it didn't work. If you look at his first sentence it's clear that he barely knows Ben, and to point out again he's basing his points off of other people's claims. No one should be able to say "you shouldn't let this shit get to you" until he or she is put in the same position as Ben is currently in.

He's been around since August 2006, thats a pretty long time. . .


And I don't see any flaming in this thread, just telling Chrome he's a blunt asshole, and that this bluntness is unneeded. As he did say, " I don't flame, I tell what I think."

Well sure he's joined since August, however he's been unactive in these part of the forums. Therefore, he's not up to date with current affairs.

I've been here long enough, and it doesn't matter to me whether know me or not. And if you're trying to be funny by using my own words against me, it didn't work. If you look at his first sentence it's clear that he barely knows Ben, and to point out again he's basing his points off of other people's claims. No one should be able to say "you shouldn't let this shit get to you" until he or she is put in the same position as Ben is currently in.

Wow, I sound like such a bad person. "No one should be able to say "you shouldn't let this shit get to you" until he or she is put in the same position as Ben is currently in" are you kidding me? What position? The one where you have 12 year olds throwing insults at you? I obviously don't know Ben or XCHROME, but my answer was based on his original post which from my understanding he is saying that people (on the net) judge him the wrong way and he takes it to heart. Im just trying to help the man, not put him down. Im trying to give him some points of why he shouldn't care what people think of him on the internet (in fact he shouldn't care period.) and here you go making me look like an asshole. I feel stupid for even writing this reply, but unfortunately you completely misjudged my intentions. I guess Ben should just go and think hard about what people think of him, especially the ones that are on the other side of the world and god knows he's gonna be one heck of a successful lad. Hope you get out of your "position" Ben. I really do.

Wow, I sound like such a bad person. "No one should be able to say "you shouldn't let this shit get to you" until he or she is put in the same position as Ben is currently in" are you kidding me? What position? The one where you have 12 year olds throwing insults at you? I obviously don't know Ben or XCHROME, but my answer was based on his original post which from my understanding he is saying that people (on the net) judge him the wrong way and he takes it to heart. Im just trying to help the man, not put him down. Im trying to give him some points of why he shouldn't care what people think of him on the internet (in fact he shouldn't care period.) and here you go making me look like an asshole. I feel stupid for even writing this reply, but unfortunately you completely misjudged my intentions. I guess Ben should just go and think hard about what people think of him, especially the ones that are on the other side of the world and god knows he's gonna be one heck of a successful lad. Hope you get out of your "position" Ben. I really do.

Look, I'm not trying nor did I intend to put you down in anyway. The fact is that for a long time now there's been a lot of flaming, some in which Ben took place. This isn't the only time Ben's been flamed I bet, so I'd think that Ben would be fed up with the constant flaming he's been getting that's all. And my statement wasn't directed towards you, I simply took a quote from you because it was in the previous post to use it as a general statement.

I can say it again, not that your listening.



He hasn't been flamed.

Did you get that? Good.

Look, I'm not trying nor did I intend to put you down in anyway. The fact is that for a long time now there's been a lot of flaming, some in which Ben took place. This isn't the only time Ben's been flamed I bet, so I'd think that Ben would be fed up with the constant flaming he's been getting that's all. And my statement wasn't directed towards you, I simply took a quote from you because it was in the previous post to use it as a general statement.

Well i doubt people will stop flaming him now when he speaks his mind..because a big part of onrpg is immature people that dont know what opinions are and what an arguemnt is as olaph has stated before. I dont even know why he made this thread i doubt its going to change anything, its the internet people get flamed get over it.

And who the hell are you? You've barely been around to know what Ben's like, you're only getting descriptions from flamer's opinions. And loles if you're trying to use correct grammar, because it's an epic phail with excessive use of commas. All Ben is doing is expressing his thoughts, no need for a mob to gather round.

No need for a mob to gather round? And here I was, thinking that boards were meant to be read and responded to. Silly me.

I can say it again, not that your listening.



He hasn't been flamed.

Did you get that? Good.


Sigh, in your opinion he's not being flamed. Let's just say he's being heavily criticized then shall we? And of course I'm not listening, I'm reading. /sarcasm Anyways, Ben stopped posting a while ago, so Idk why I'm still posting here lole.

Well i doubt people will stop flaming him now when he speaks his mind..because a big part of onrpg is immature people that dont know what opinions are and what an arguemnt is as olaph has stated before. I dont even know why he made this thread i doubt its going to change anything, its the internet people get flamed get over it.
Thank you, this is what I'm trying to say.

To all of you who say I'm taking this to heart and I care so much about what people think about me, I don't. I know that the majority of the community thinks I'm an asshole, and I accept it, because I'm aware that I appear as one frequently on these forums (I never denied it either, so don't pull anything on me for that). I'm just getting tired of people telling me to stop flaming (Because, quite often, if you do, I'm gonna actually flame and tell you that I wasn't, making me sound like a total hypocrite), and differentiating my posts from a flame and a statement of opinion.

There's your answer to why I made the thread as well.

EDIT: Before you guys go and say, "But if you didn't care what others thought you wouldn't make this thread", learn the difference between letting an insult get to you and whining about it and being annoyed by something and explaining it.

Can't we all just get along?

:]

Who cares? The people who won't fight with Ben (most of the time) are the people who either played with him, or joined Onrpg before 2007's ending. Honestly.

People just misinterpret or misintercept what Ben's trying to say. It's the unclearity of things that may lead to discomfort.

But, in all honesty, this thread wasn't needed. Ben, I'm sure you know who's cool or not with you, so just leave it at that. Who cares if people flame you? Just let it be.

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

Oh, but the troll is hungry. I dunno, I felt like saying that.

People are always going to do that. Who gives a ***** Ben. Just ignore them or tell them to gtfo.

Incase we get moar misinterpretations, that "who gives a ***** Ben" meant who cares about them, not who gives a **** about Ben and his topic.

When the hell did everyone start calling you by your first name.

For one thing, it wasn't a misinterpretation of what he was saying. He called Zac a baby, when it wasn't necessary. That is what started this topic.

Second, and the last time I'm going to type it:



No one has flamed him.

Thank you, this is what I'm trying to say.

To all of you who say I'm taking this to heart and I care so much about what people think about me, I don't. I know that the majority of the community thinks I'm an asshole, and I accept it, because I'm aware that I appear as one frequently on these forums (I never denied it either, so don't pull anything on me for that). I'm just getting tired of people telling me to stop flaming (Because, quite often, if you do, I'm gonna actually flame and tell you that I wasn't, making me sound like a total hypocrite), and differentiating my posts from a flame and a statement of opinion.

There's your answer to why I made the thread as well.

EDIT: Before you guys go and say, "But if you didn't care what others thought you wouldn't make this thread", learn the difference between letting an insult get to you and whining about it and being annoyed by something and explaining it.



You are mad at people for constantly reminding you that your manner of speaking is bugging people. So instead of stopping, you complain that everyone else needs to stop telling you to act decent because you always act this way, and since that's the way you've always been it should be ok.
That kind of logic is stupid.

In a lot of your posts you go off topic, defending your "right" to express your opinion which has nothing to do with anything. This whole thread has nothing to do with MapleStory. It is pointless.

But you are complaining about this though and in the wrong section I might add. And that annoys me.

If you don't want any problems, quit making them. Until then, you have no right to complain about anything when you have the power to change it. You don't have a valid reason for any of this, so don't try to rationalize or justify anything because it's a bunch of BS.

You don't have to agree or like anything I said. But remember this simple fact: you are wrong in your actions and if you want proof go read the forum rules. Any Mod would have a valid reason to not only lock this topic but ban you for multiple reasons already. It's a wonder why they have not.

Okay guys really lets just calm down. We all know that this thread is ridiculous and uneccesary so lets just let it die. It was bad enough with the your a crybaby insults and shit this is really just far enough.

lolz, i don't flame ben. i know what i did before in the summer of '06 :p

Ben :O this just kinda went all kablooey, there wasn't much need about this thread(or at all dealing with me) i know you don't flame, your responses just hit me harder then most people. you are burtally honest, but sometimes there is no place for it. You are a good poster but tone down the "rawr" factor :D. Act like you do on maple, or at least the way i see you act in maple. I know we're friends(or at least i think that) and i know you mean it for the good of my well being(or at least i think that).

I think you usally mean well, it comes out wrong most of the time :)

HOWEVER
i find it ironic that the same thing that gave you an excuse to make the "whiner" remarks is doing what you did by posting your thread, explaining a problem or defending yourself.
(i mean that in the best way possible)

So all in all, we might as well make up(so you can focus on yoru other reason, as i think doing this all because of me is unjustified so you must have another one, probaly the people that helped me.) and put this all behind us. It was a bad one night and all, but im not being stupid anymore(and i'll work on ignoring things, i need to get better at that i know) and you just tone down the "i will eat your house" factor.


I also apologize for calling you a wanabee bully, i was baiting and it wasn't right.
With all that said, i forgive you and i hope you can forgive me.
People no more need to defend me. come for whatever Ben's other reason was :)

You are mad at people for constantly reminding you that your manner of speaking is bugging people. So instead of stopping, you complain that everyone else needs to stop telling you to act decent because you always act this way, and since that's the way you've always been it should be ok.
That kind of logic is stupid.

In a lot of your posts you go off topic, defending your "right" to express your opinion which has nothing to do with anything. This whole thread has nothing to do with MapleStory. It is pointless.

But you are complaining about this though and in the wrong section I might add. And that annoys me.

If you don't want any problems, quit making them. Until then, you have no right to complain about anything when you have the power to change it. You don't have a valid reason for any of this, so don't try to rationalize or justify anything because it's a bunch of BS.

You don't have to agree or like anything I said. But remember this simple fact: you are wrong in your actions and if you want proof go read the forum rules. Any Mod would have a valid reason to not only lock this topic but ban you for multiple reasons already. It's a wonder why they have not.
I tell no one to stop telling me to act decent, and this thread isn't complaining about people telling me to act decent. It's about people saying "You're flaming this, you're flaming that" when half the time, I'm not. If this was a thread about what you said it was, hell, I wouldn't even make a thread about it, I would just ignore them because I choose to post like this and it'd be my choice to continue or to stop. I'm just tired of everyone calling every one of my posts a flame, because not all of them are. (Yes, there's a difference in the two things I just compared.)

Do I ever do this? Yes. Do I ever do it a lot? No, just recently I've done it more than usual.

I could post this in General, but people would probably have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. It's only this community that can possibly relate.

I can just say that this is how I post, if you have a problem with it (Which is probably true in most cases), you can go complain to me. I act how I want, if it violates anything, it's my decision to change. It's also your right to express your opinion, and it's also my right to give a crap or not.

EDIT: Zac, you still annoy me at times. I was never mad or anything. You just annoyed me to the point where I said what I said.

And for the last time, everyone, I am not defending myself, k? K. People can call me a whiner right now if they wanted to, and again, it'd be my choice to either ignore or retaliate. For like, the third time, I act how I act, it doesn't have to be the way everyone wants me to, I could change if I wanted to. Right now I have no intention of doing so.

I have to admit, you are one hell of an arguerer ben.


And seriosuly to those who tell him he's flaming, he isn't. You HAVE to know how he acts, trust me if he flamed i wouldn't want to be around.

I have to admit, you are one hell of an arguerer ben.


And seriosuly to those who tell him he's flaming, he isn't. You HAVE to know how he acts, trust me if he flamed i wouldn't want to be around.
F3

Yes, I haven't flamed with the intent of flaming in a while. Indeed you don't want to be around when I flame. >8U

You know what came in mind? I get/got flamed much more than you, Ben, and I didn't even make a thread about it.

Hell, I even got a thread about me asking why I was getting flamed so much.

It's not worth it Ben, where are you getting with this?

I've been here long enough, and it doesn't matter to me whether know me or not. And if you're trying to be funny by using my own words against me, it didn't work. If you look at his first sentence it's clear that he barely knows Ben, and to point out again he's basing his points off of other people's claims. No one should be able to say "you shouldn't let this shit get to you" until he or she is put in the same position as Ben is currently in.

someones activity on the forum does not effect whether or not their comment is actually right.

its another thing i see wrong with this forum

post count shouldn't mean the difference between who you listen to and who's comments you disregard

its comments like the ones unleashed has posted that make me feel like theres no hope in this forum.

if someone has a valid point don't start saying "blah blah who are you are never online blah blah" cause it shows how immature you are along with making you look like an ***.

all post count seems to do is make people think they have the authority to disregard peoples comments and/or bring up as we have also seen "who the hell are you"

well now its my turn!!

Who the hell do you think you are telling people on MY Forum that their comment is not valid due to their post count..he may of just been lurking which therefore makes his comments perfectly valid.

also "Ben" if you didn't care you wouldn't of posted it..quiet frankly ive found you to be really really immature and an asshole lately and i'll have to get rid of you if you keep this crap up..its fine if your like that but i don't want your negativity on my forums, one more slip up and your gone..no ifs or buts ive simply had enough of everyones *****ing on this forum!

and as you say...this isn't a flame this is my being blunt

O.O
*claps* that was probaly one of the best posts i've seen most of the year and shows why you were selected as a moderator.
I wholehardetly agree with you on the post count thing, as i think it shuold more to make you feel happy(that you spend so much time in the fourm) and not to disable anyone else.
I feel that i'm not listened to a ton, and it should be like that(as per not ALWAYS listening to people with high post counts. Not not listening to me in general(yes i know double negative)) anyways i think disregarding someone for a low post count is stupid, what if they lurk?

Its all bias anyways(yes that UGLY word), and there will always be bias as its impossible to fully eliminate it.

Unleashed I have not read EVERY one of your posts(and i probaly will when its not midnight and im about ready to pass out on my computer(exaustion not drinking im 16 pplz :O)) but i will make a comment when i do :)

Can a Mod just close this topic? Because I know for sure Chrome is going to reply to Thundera's post negatively.

This is going to turn into a flame war...

Wow, xChrome, i liked how you color coded that post. I skipped all 3 pages, barely reading any. It's all about just ignoring each others posts or ruining each other's internet ego...

This forum is split! :)

locking before the personal attacks flood the topic with their stupidity and disappointment

*LOCKED*