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Faith
04-08-2008, 11:37 PM
I mean, it doesn't really affect the ingame play in ANY way whatsoever at all. Its not like your really hacking the game either playing maple in a windows mode... (Yeah sure its a 3rd party program, but it doesn't do anything in the game)
Plus, even if they came up with the reason "makes hacking easier", all they do is alt tab out of that and bam, freaking hacks right there so what difference does it make (excluding speed of what 1 minute?)...

They should put in a option that allows us to play at xxxx resolution and a windows mode option...

Sketchyx
04-08-2008, 11:45 PM
Because apprently it makes hacking easier. Because you know alt tabbing takes way mroe work then having windowed mode. Nexon is just stupid period

Faith
04-08-2008, 11:47 PM
Yeah it takes 30 seconds to alt tab... this is just ridiculous though.

Darkone121
04-08-2008, 11:56 PM
Because Hacking is considered having a 3rd Party Program attached to Maplestory, and formatting it throught the program that your using.

Also its like if they have Window Mode allowed in Maplestory, then they would let hacks allowed also.

Oh, unless they have a setting in gameplay. But who knows, they might add it later.

Faith
04-09-2008, 12:37 AM
Oh, unless they have a setting in gameplay. But who knows, they might add it later.

thats what im referring to, they should get one of those.

hiboy2004
04-09-2008, 12:38 AM
Gameguard blocks all third party programs, they can't start making exceptions. A "Window Mode" program could be altered or something to allow hacking programs in.

It's a safety risk.

ShadePopping
04-09-2008, 04:03 AM
my bet is that they wont add in game window mode, not even alt+enter, they havent had it back then since CB and till now.. is it 0.51 now? i hopped on sometime before march break for like an hour

HappyViet
04-09-2008, 04:56 AM
Well of course there is a way around everything. :)

edit: I said nothing.

ThunderaWolf
04-09-2008, 05:14 AM
There is obviously a good reason, Nexon is a company they arn't stupid They just don't tell us much.

HappyViet
04-09-2008, 05:42 AM
The reason was because it makes hacking easier.

I forgot where i read it, besides this forum, but it was a long time ago, before i became an OnRPGer.

ThunderaWolf
04-09-2008, 05:58 AM
The reason was because it makes hacking easier.

I forgot where i read it, besides this forum, but it was a long time ago, before i became an OnRPGer.
True that most likely isthe answer(i rember seeing something like that before) but it "wasn't aloud" :O

So there MUST be another reason.
Or we just want another excuse to blame nexon for something O.o

CJeeey
04-09-2008, 07:51 AM
nexon (gameguard) scans your pc for 3rd party programs.
those programs used with maple changed something in maple to do a curtain thing that gameguards finds. thoose automatic scan things can't scan what its used for. aslongs it changed some thing to the game (like making it windowd) aint possble then.

in i dont rly mind >_> 2 monitors ftw

Slade
04-09-2008, 09:27 AM
Eh, Joe said they might implement it. I guess it's just a waiting game, as it always has been with this game, and always will be.

HappyViet
04-09-2008, 06:24 PM
nexon (gameguard) scans your pc for 3rd party programs.
those programs used with maple changed something in maple to do a curtain thing that gameguards finds. thoose automatic scan things can't scan what its used for. aslongs it changed some thing to the game (like making it windowd) aint possble then.

in i dont rly mind >_> 2 monitors ftw

GG does not scan your computer but rather monitors the processes and anything that will attach to it in a different way. It reads the processes that you're running and it'll determine if it may be a hacking threat by how the process is running. I remember Rev 800 something mistook AIM for a hacking program for awhile and would not let me run Maple with AIM on but that was waaayyyyyyyyyy back.

NarkamaN
04-09-2008, 06:25 PM
Yeah it takes 30 seconds to alt tab... this is just ridiculous though.

30 Seconds!? Takes me to Alt+Tab, open FireFox, open Onrpg forums, read, and Type this post in 30 seconds O.o
But yes, Wizet\Nexon sucks, as allways, but we still play MapleStory.

HappyViet
04-09-2008, 06:43 PM
30 Seconds!? Takes me to Alt+Tab, open FireFox, open Onrpg forums, read, and Type this post in 30 seconds O.o
But yes, Wizet\Nexon sucks, as allways, but we still play MapleStory.

Well the MS.exe process uses a lot of RAM when it's running so it makes alt + tabbing slower.

NarkamaN
04-09-2008, 09:13 PM
Well the MS.exe process uses a lot of RAM when it's running so it makes alt + tabbing slower.

Probably, but its till 1 second for me to Alt+Tab.

I am better than you
04-09-2008, 09:56 PM
Nobody knows about DXWND here but me.
When I used to play, I always used DXWND to get it to run in windowed mode.

Lefos
04-09-2008, 10:01 PM
Actually, quite a few of us use or have used DXWND. I stopped because it made the game a bit jittery, which was annoying as hell. I will admit that its nice not having to alt-tab all the time, though.

HappyViet
04-10-2008, 01:39 AM
Nobody knows about DXWND here but me.
When I used to play, I always used DXWND to get it to run in windowed mode.

Lmao, oh you think you're cool. We're not allowed to speak of "hacking related tools". If you haven't noticed my absurdly attempts at innuendo-ing into my posts, you'd know that I have the most recent version of it. :hmm:

Piggy-Bank
04-10-2008, 01:51 AM
I actually use a program that is a lot faster than Alt-Tab and does not mess with Maple Story in any way. This program is basically just a Virtual Desktop Manager. It'll basically host a few virtual desktops and allow me to switch back and forth with ease. Each of these windows will their own list of running programs, and it's just like having multiple monitors.

Basically, I have Firefox running in one Virtual Desktop and in the other Virtual Desktop, I have the full screen Maple Story running. Switching from one to the other is as easy as moving my mouse to the edge of my screen. Virtually no lag and much much faster than Alt-Tab.

Another method would be to use a VM (Virtual Machine) and play Maple Story in that. Your lag will depend on how powerful your computer is, but it's much better than DXWnd. Virtual Machines aren't considered hacking programs by GameGuard because it's just emulating another operating system and is just a sandbox so GameGuard won't even detect that it's running. To GameGuard, a VM running Windows XP SP2 will just seem like the Windows operating system.

ThunderaWolf
04-10-2008, 01:51 AM
30 Seconds!? Takes me to Alt+Tab, open FireFox, open Onrpg forums, read, and Type this post in 30 seconds O.o
But yes, Wizet\Nexon sucks, as allways, but we still play MapleStory.
Not bad persay, more or less "not talkative" the company's do great things, they just don't bother to tell us D:

Sketchyx
04-10-2008, 02:23 AM
I actually use a program that is a lot faster than Alt-Tab and does not mess with Maple Story in any way. This program is basically just a Virtual Desktop Manager. It'll basically host a few virtual desktops and allow me to switch back and forth with ease. Each of these windows will their own list of running programs, and it's just like having multiple monitors.

Basically, I have Firefox running in one Virtual Desktop and in the other Virtual Desktop, I have the full screen Maple Story running. Switching from one to the other is as easy as moving my mouse to the edge of my screen. Virtually no lag and much much faster than Alt-Tab.

Another method would be to use a VM (Virtual Machine) and play Maple Story in that. Your lag will depend on how powerful your computer is, but it's much better than DXWnd. Virtual Machines aren't considered hacking programs by GameGuard because it's just emulating another operating system and is just a sandbox so GameGuard won't even detect that it's running. To GameGuard, a VM running Windows XP SP2 will just seem like the Windows operating system.

Thats a good idea but serious VM is way too much trouble and takes a lot of pc resources. I used to have that a while back.. you gotta install windows on it and drivers and all that. Takes a lot of time, when you could just use windowed mode, which doesnt evne get you banned. Been using it for what... 1 year now i tihnk and havent gotten banned for it

magicjubin
04-10-2008, 03:56 AM
Nobody knows about DXWND here but me.
When I used to play, I always used DXWND to get it to run in windowed mode.

Lawlz, thinking you are the only person here with DXWnd.
Seriously, ive used it for like every game, Gunz, MapleStory, Silkroad Etc. Your not the only person.

Oh and one reason they wont implement it is because of Match Cards. Something with match cards i think.

Rendascus
04-10-2008, 04:39 AM
By affecting, and definition, they mean that changing the way the game was from before. So....10xx resolution to x00 resolution is affecting the game. It also affects the screen shots that come out. You see?

Piggy-Bank
04-10-2008, 04:40 AM
Lawlz, thinking you are the only person here with DXWnd.
Seriously, ive used it for like every game, Gunz, MapleStory, Silkroad Etc. Your not the only person.

Oh and one reason they wont implement it is because of Match Cards. Something with match cards i think.
While it would be easier to cheat in match cards (I could simply record my window and play it back so I would beat anyone) that's hardly an excuse for not implementing a window mode.

Besides, no one even plays match cards. Omok is where it's at.

@Lord Rendascus: Maple Story is a simple 2D game. It looks fine on my 15' screen. It stretches like it's a Yoga master on my 24' screen. If 3D games like Guild Wars can size down the game without affecting anyone, I'm sure Maple Story can. It doesn't affect the screenshot it produces. The screenshots I take on my 15' screen are just as big as the ones I take on my 24' screen.

HappyViet
04-10-2008, 04:49 AM
By affecting, and definition, they mean that changing the way the game was from before. So....10xx resolution to x00 resolution is affecting the game. It also affects the screen shots that come out. You see?

Nope. SS are taken on a base resolution. Sometimes I play MS on my 40" Wide Screen in the living room. Can you imagine the SS size if i took a screenshot on that thing? O_o

NarkamaN
04-10-2008, 09:28 AM
Lawlz, thinking you are the only person here with DXWnd.
Seriously, ive used it for like every game, Gunz, MapleStory, Silkroad Etc. Your not the only person.

Exactly what i wanted to say.

magicjubin
04-10-2008, 10:01 PM
Nope. SS are taken on a base resolution. Sometimes I play MS on my 40" Wide Screen in the living room. Can you imagine the SS size if i took a screenshot on that thing? O_o

It would still be small. If you play Stepmania in full mode or windowed mode (Option) the screen shots come out the same.

@piggy
That and the hacker stuff is the only reason they wont implement it. I remember them talking about 2 reasons.

SickSense
04-10-2008, 10:26 PM
I actually use a program that is a lot faster than Alt-Tab and does not mess with Maple Story in any way. This program is basically just a Virtual Desktop Manager. It'll basically host a few virtual desktops and allow me to switch back and forth with ease. Each of these windows will their own list of running programs, and it's just like having multiple monitors.

Basically, I have Firefox running in one Virtual Desktop and in the other Virtual Desktop, I have the full screen Maple Story running. Switching from one to the other is as easy as moving my mouse to the edge of my screen. Virtually no lag and much much faster than Alt-Tab.

Another method would be to use a VM (Virtual Machine) and play Maple Story in that. Your lag will depend on how powerful your computer is, but it's much better than DXWnd. Virtual Machines aren't considered hacking programs by GameGuard because it's just emulating another operating system and is just a sandbox so GameGuard won't even detect that it's running. To GameGuard, a VM running Windows XP SP2 will just seem like the Windows operating system.

i just downloaded the Virtual Desktop thing, but how do you set it so that Maple story only opens on 1 desktop? When i do it, Maple Story is open in all 4 desktops.

Piggy-Bank
04-11-2008, 12:36 AM
What Virtual Desktop are you using? I'm using VirtuaWin and that allows you to choose which desktop to open programs in. Try VirtuaWin.

HappyViet
04-11-2008, 07:37 AM
It would still be small. If you play Stepmania in full mode or windowed mode (Option) the screen shots come out the same.

I was saying it to imagine if Rendascus's false information.

If i had taken an SS on a 40" LCD HDTV Screen with his false information, that SS has got to be atleast 100 MB in size.

SickSense
04-11-2008, 11:25 PM
What Virtual Desktop are you using? I'm using VirtuaWin and that allows you to choose which desktop to open programs in. Try VirtuaWin.

I dled VirtuaWin, but I'm confused on how to set it so that maple story is only open in one desktop. If you can help me then it would be much appreciated.

Piggy-Bank
04-11-2008, 11:35 PM
I dled VirtuaWin, but I'm confused on how to set it so that maple story is only open in one desktop. If you can help me then it would be much appreciated.
You don't need to set it up at all. Just run Maple and it'll open Maple Story in your current window. Switch Window's and you'll be all set.

SickSense
04-12-2008, 12:03 AM
Ok thanx! Do you know how to set it so it doesn't minimize a program when you switch desktops? For example warcraft 3 minimizes when i switch desktops.

Piggy-Bank
04-12-2008, 12:17 AM
Ok thanx! Do you know how to set it so it doesn't minimize a program when you switch desktops? For example warcraft 3 minimizes when i switch desktops.
I'm pretty sure that it just jumps to the first active window that was open so I'm not sure how to change it so that specific program doesn't minimize. Sorry. You might want to take a look at the VirtuaWin website and see if you find anything.