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garbanian
06-12-2008, 04:36 AM
So on the news here, there was just this story about how cellphones can radiate enough radio waves to pop popcorn. Who really thinks this is true? Some say it is, some say its fake. The people who believe it say that the old phones released more radio waves making it possible....thoughts....comments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj6SZgbBuSQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPf8dXsZ1PE&feature=related

fattymac21
06-12-2008, 04:37 AM
Portable popcorn popping = pwnage, so I'll go with it.

Plus, PPP has some sort of ring to it.

GrandHustle
06-12-2008, 04:37 AM
What?

It's the heat that pops popcorn kernels, not radiation. :-/

garbanian
06-12-2008, 04:39 AM
Don't look at me, i thought this was interesting/funny seeing as it made enough attention to be put on the news at 11:00PM

Rendascus
06-12-2008, 04:43 AM
What?

It's the heat that pops popcorn kernels, not radiation. :-/


Forms of radiation can produce heat.

Wait, wtf. Heat IS radiation. (a type)

Atiari
06-12-2008, 04:46 AM
A physicist already shot it down. It appears to be a viral campaign for (or against) the Nokia or Sony brand.

GrandHustle
06-12-2008, 04:46 AM
Forms of radiation can produce heat.

Wait, wtf. Heat IS radiation. (a type)

Well what I meant was that the cell phones obviously wouldn't be able to generate enough radiation to actually produce the heat equivalent to that of a microwave.

if that were true, then you would cook yourself by putting your hand next to several phones.

PugsPwn
06-12-2008, 07:26 AM
Obviously fake i mean cell phone=microwave? DOES NOT COMPUTE!

zipykido
06-12-2008, 07:34 AM
It's possible. Apple is now marketing the iPopper attachments to their iPhones to keep ahead of the competition. That way Apple patrons can have their phones out during movies and not seem rude.

Oisterboy
06-12-2008, 11:14 AM
Wait, wtf. Heat IS radiation. (a type)

You sure about that? I think heat radiates, but I don't know if it IS radiation...

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 01:04 PM
What?

It's the heat that pops popcorn kernels, not radiation. :-/
It not heat either. Its the agitation of the water molecules within the popcorn that pops it. Production of heat is a side effect.

You can do this without heat or any type of "waves".

Tenviman2
06-12-2008, 01:10 PM
It not heat either. Its the agitation of the water molecules within the popcorn that pops it. Production of heat is a side effect.

You can do this without heat or any type of "waves".

actualy cyber
the heat causes the moisture to expand

but mobile phones can not give out enough radiation to pop corn overwise mobiles wouldnt be deemed safe if there giving enough heat radiation to popcorn

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 01:24 PM
I didnt say anything about radiation. When water is in a contained enviroment the proper amount of excitement to the water molecules will produce heat.

The expansion of water is only done by exciting the molecules so much that they need room to bounce around. Its this needed room from the excited water molecules that force the popcorn kernal to pop.

As I said before, the production of heat is a product of making the water molecules excited and you do not need heat to excite the water molecules.

You dont have to use radiation, heat, or microwaves to popcorn. Anything that excites the water molecules in the kernal can pop popcorn.

Tenviman2
06-12-2008, 01:41 PM
ahh that makes more sense

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 01:50 PM
ahh that makes more sense Yeah

Another way to explain this is having a heavy metal band play at a bar. With all those bodies just waiting for the band to play they are not too active. The air in within the enviroment is moderately cool.

Once the band begins to play, the bodies begin to get excited and then start headbanging and attempt to form mosh pits. The air in the enviroment begins to get warmer, cause the movement of bodies produce heat.

When you start headbanging and joining in mosh pits, you need some type of space, dont you?

the band = the variable that excites the water molecules
the bar = the contained enviroment
the bodies = water molecules


It's how I explained it to my son. He is into science and hard rock.

Tenviman2
06-12-2008, 01:52 PM
hah you should be a science teacher im learning more off you than any of my other teachers

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 01:55 PM
hah you should be a science teacher im learning more off you than any of my other teachersLOL, no thanks. Teachers make crappy wages. I learn so I can teach my kids and help them.

Only thing you really need to do to teach someone properly, is relate the subject to something they are fond of.

Phr0zen
06-12-2008, 02:24 PM
A physicist already shot it down. It appears to be a viral campaign for (or against) the Nokia or Sony brand.

I can understand that. Have you ever held a Nokia phone close to a CRT monitor? The monitor goes crazy and gets all distorted with wavy lines and stuff.

Not sure all Nokia phones do that, but about 6 or so different ones that they sell here in Canada will do this.

That can't be good for your brain.

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 02:33 PM
I can understand that. Have you ever held a Nokia phone close to a CRT monitor? The monitor goes crazy and gets all distorted with wavy lines and stuff.

Not sure all Nokia phones do that, but about 6 or so different ones that they sell here in Canada will do this.

That can't be good for your brain. All mobiles will do that to you computer, speaker, or CRT monitor.

Have it close to you tower and call someone, see what happens.

Our brainwaves work a bit differently than what electronics do.

But the mobile phone trick has been proven to be real. You just need the proper field

Phr0zen
06-12-2008, 02:42 PM
All mobiles will do that to you computer, speaker, or CRT monitor.

Have it close to you tower and call someone, see what happens.

Our brainwaves work a bit differently than what electronics do.

But the mobile phone trick has been proven to be real. You just need the proper field

Not all mobiles do that for sure. Motorollas, blackberries, etc have never produced this effect in my experience. I've tried about 15 different makes/models without noticing this.

I have my BB about 2mm from my laptop screen right now and its not producing any interference.

I do know that the phones we get in Canada are usually different models than everyone else, so maybe that is why. (perhaps the type of cell networks we have)

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 02:56 PM
Not all mobiles do that for sure. Motorollas, blackberries, etc have never produced this effect in my experience. I've tried about 15 different makes/models without noticing this.

I have my BB about 2mm from my laptop screen right now and its not producing any interference.

I do know that the phones we get in Canada are usually different models than everyone else, so maybe that is why. (perhaps the type of cell networks we have) Cause a laptop monitor is not a CRT. Its either plasma or LCD, which operates differently than a CRT.

It could be the carrier strength in combination witht he phone too.

I know of several BB, Motorollas, and LGs that can cause interference, but they are all all AT&T mobiles.

Phr0zen
06-12-2008, 03:31 PM
Cause a laptop monitor is not a CRT. Its either plasma or LCD, which operates differently than a CRT.

It could be the carrier strength in combination witht he phone too.

I know of several BB, Motorollas, and LGs that can cause interference, but they are all all AT&T mobiles.

I think that is what I was trying to get at.

Besides, Nokia phones just feel cheap as hell. I wouldn't buy one.
:P

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 03:43 PM
I think that is what I was trying to get at.

Besides, Nokia phones just feel cheap as hell. I wouldn't buy one.
:P I dont know about that. I still have my Nokia bar phone.

I have kept it cause its one of the few phones that has survived my ill temper. I have thrown that against the wall countless times and it still works.

So I gave it to my son to use. He wants my Sony Erricson 580. He will get that in October. Going to get me a Vu.

V-Opolis
06-12-2008, 03:53 PM
You sure about that? I think heat radiates, but I don't know if it IS radiation...

, symbolized by Q, is energy transferred from one body or system to another due to a difference in temperature.[1][2] In thermodynamics, the quantity TdS is used as a representative measure of heat, which is the absolute temperature of an object multiplied by the differential quantity of a system's entropy measured at the boundary of the object. Heat can flow spontaneously from an object with a high temperature to an object with a lower temperature. The transfer of heat from one object to another object with an equal or higher temperature can happen only with the aid of a heat pump. High temperature bodies, which often result in high rates of heat transfer, can be created by chemical reactions (such as burning), nuclear reactions (such as fusion taking place inside the Sun), electromagnetic dissipation (as in electric stoves), or mechanical dissipation (such as friction). Heat can be transferred between objects by radiation, conduction and convection. Temperature is used as a measure of the internal energy or enthalpy, that is the level of elementary motion giving rise to heat transfer. Heat can only be transferred between objects, or areas within an object, with different temperatures (as given by the zeroth law of thermodynamics), and then, in the absence of work, only in the direction of the colder body (as per the second law of thermodynamics). The temperature and phase of a substance subject to heat transfer are determined by latent heat and heat capacity. A related term is thermal energy, loosely defined as the energy of a body that increases with its temperature.

there you go.

Justin1221
06-12-2008, 04:14 PM
lol

That's c-raz-y! XD

GrandHustle
06-12-2008, 07:06 PM
It not heat either. Its the agitation of the water molecules within the popcorn that pops it. Production of heat is a side effect.

You can do this without heat or any type of "waves".

Really? How would you agitate the water molecules within the popcorn otherwise?

That would certainly prove to be an interesting experiment

cyber7chink
06-12-2008, 08:08 PM
Really? How would you agitate the water molecules within the popcorn otherwise?

That would certainly prove to be an interesting experimentKenetic (sp? grrr) energy and static electricity are two other ways to pop popcorn.

These experiements were done when I was in grade school.

You can even used forced air.

Darc
06-12-2008, 08:58 PM
Brainiac tried something like this of MASS scale once,with cellphones.

100 cellphones(Maybe more) couldn't even heat an egg up.

Oisterboy
06-12-2008, 09:52 PM
there you go.

So, was that a no? "Heat can be transferred between objects by radiation, conduction and convection." All that said to me was "heat radiates" not "heat is radiation".

Not trying to start an argument, but I still don't know which it is :D