Yeah... when it comes to F2P or B2P games, which genre needs further exploiting?
I, for one, am getting somewhat tired of Fantasy MMOs, seriously. In my opinion the one that needs some good exploiting is the Survival/Horror genre. I know some MMORPGs like Exanimus are in the works, but that one will be P2P, from what I know.

What's your opinion on the subject?

Horror ones, there are already some sci-fi's and ...a lot of asian oriental, and fantasy MMO's.

And when I mean horror, I mean, actually SCARY. Creepy, and, sometimes "OMFG" * Falls off seat, terrified*...that kind of scary. Freaking red liquid flying out of bunnies everytime you hit them with a stick = not scary. I see what you did there Requiem, not clever, not scary.

I think it would be fun to have a game where the whole world is a city, and you have to fend for yourself against thugs, etc.

I guess like CoH/CoV, but I've never played those games.

Horror ones, there are already some sci-fi's and ...a lot of asian oriental, and fantasy MMO's.

And when I mean horror, I mean, actually SCARY. Creepy, and, sometimes "OMFG" * Falls off seat, terrified*...that kind of scary. Freaking red liquid flying out of bunnies everytime you hit them with a stick = not scary. I see what you did there Requiem, not clever, not scary.

Yeah... Requiem went more towards Gore, instead of true Horror and the like.
Scary looking creatures won't do it either, what they need is to make a game with a good feeling of dread, you know, with the right atmosphere. I think something with the mood of Fatal Frame would be nice enough, of course, with guns and stuff instead of cameras.

I agree on the horror theme, but something ala chtulhu stories, SP 1 does a similar thing but I heard it's a typical korean grinder with just the "horror" theme and that's it, could be wrong tho

but one thing they should STOP USING FOREVER it's both asian and anime kiddy retarded style, I'm fucking sick of those

there needs to be more mmorpg's with traps like you fall in a whole with spike in it or some boulders come dropping on your head and kill you they dont put any traps in mmorpgs just bombs u can place. yea they are lacking on horror the most out of the mmorpg's. i want to see zombies and stuff like i seen on elder scrolls oblivion coming out of dark areas out of know where.

Horror MMORPG in a town that has lots of mist and its also a FPS, you can level up you can increase your skills defend mobs, add attribute points take cover behind walls and all that stuff but its a MMORPG...that would be epic.

They should do a game with nowdays weapons... not swords, axes...bow and arrow..

They should make a MMORPG with guns and bombs...

Classes divided like Pistol user, Machinegun user, Shotgun user, rifle user, scout user....

I agree on the horror theme, but something ala chtulhu stories, SP 1 does a similar thing but I heard it's a typical korean grinder with just the "horror" theme and that's it, could be wrong tho

but one thing they should STOP USING FOREVER it's both asian and anime kiddy retarded style, I'm fucking sick of those

its not so much the anime look that get me. its the ones they make chibi such as ragnarok,trickster,flyff games make you look like your border line gay and a little boy.

Definately an MMOFPS world, no futuristic crap, a modern or Civil war sensed one would be awesome, hell, WWII would do fine too.

Yeahh.. every game has the fking same thing..

Swords, Axes, Bows, Knifes, Hammers, Wands...

Every game looks like the other...


They should make a MMORPG with Fps features.. and no futuristic like laser guns, real guns.. ..

Definately an MMOFPS world, no futuristic crap, a modern or Civil war sensed one would be awesome, hell, WWII would do fine too.

theres one very close to this what you said it was called ww2 online know it called battleground europe. its basicaly mmofps becouse its 1 map the map is as huge as europe is in real life its litteraly take you the same amount of time to travel across that map as it would to travel across europs map.allied vs germans has huge towns more then 5x bigger then any town in any mmorpg and its basicaly like having all the equipment you had in ww2 all the types of tanks,planes,boats,aa,at,and transport vehicles all the vehicles when you use them are like there own simulator its awsome. once 1 side take the whole map over ussualy takes month or way more depends how the battle goes then map starts over. all your kills stats are recorded forever.

theres one very close to this what you said it was called ww2 online know it called battleground europe. its basicaly mmofps becouse its 1 map the map is as huge as europe is in real life its litteraly take you the same amount of time to travel across that map as it would to travel across europs map.allied vs germans has huge towns more then 5x bigger then any town in any mmorpg and its basicaly like having all the equipment you had in ww2 all the types of tanks,planes,boats,aa,at,and transport vehicles all the vehicles when you use them are like there own simulator its awsome. once 1 side take the whole map over ussualy takes month or way more depends how the battle goes then map starts over. all your kills stats are recorded forever.

Thats not what we are talking up. Thats just another fps..

That's actually the prob. a little more than half of the MMO makers don't try to make new type of MMOs. Instead of making a sci-fi MMO, comical MMO, or Urban themed MMO, and willing to attempt to make it 3D and fast-paced, all those MMO makers do, is keep making Fantasy MMOs that are all the same, have to play as either one color of human or a elf, and they always make it a point in click.

Enough! We already have more crappy and grindy Fantasy MMOs than necessary. I feel like it's time for something new.

Cyber Punk needs some love.

Thats not what we are talking up. Thats just another fps..

dont want to argue with you but its much more then just another fps its not server based iether.its the closest thing to ww2 you can get on a game yea its a mmofps becouse its more then 500+ people on 1 server.and you rank up in this game allowing you to use other vehicles things. all the ranks are real military ranks.

requiem is pretty close to our time . actually looking to the design of house and etc they do actually look close to our age and not fantasy genre . So id say Requiem is close to urban/science fiction mmo with gory features

horror and i mean survival mmo type horror the ways in which companies could use this to their advantage is just crazy.... i always wanted to try capcoms resident evil outbreaks online but purchased a copy well after the servers shut down (for what reason i really dont know) but yeah survival horrors with nice next gen graphics bla bla bla would be awesome i really hope capcom try something like that again

the problems is : will people actually play it ? will there be a high enough popularity ? that why there not much of those games people tend to stick with the fantasy genre ex: WAR(coming soon) , WoW , Rohan etc. Im not putting requiem in this list its closer to urban like i said but w/e.

so yeah they think its a risk to launch a new theme mmo to the market.

dont want to argue with you but its much more then just another fps its not server based iether.its the closest thing to ww2 you can get on a game yea its a mmofps becouse its more then 500+ people on 1 server.and you rank up in this game allowing you to use other vehicles things. all the ranks are real military ranks.

Do you kill each other or do you kill Monsters and bosses, do quests, and grind, while holding guns?

If you kill each other, than its just another fps.

Do you kill each other or do you kill Monsters and bosses, do quests, and grind, while holding guns?

If you kill each other, than its just another fps.

well you have to kill off the towns defences wich every town has posted ai so you cant just run in and take it. you have to set a mission wich can be called a quest in order to get rank. rank can be considered lvl couse the higher rank you have the more command you have and other vehicles. rank is a grind in the end but thats last ranks. yea. so ai can be considered monster,missions looked at like quests, and grind can be considered geting your rank up. yea all while holding gun or what ever you are at the time.

well you have to kill off the towns defences wich every town has posted ai so you cant just run in and take it. you have to set a mission wich can be called a quest in order to get rank. rank can be considered lvl couse the higher rank you have the more command you have and other vehicles. rank is a grind in the end but thats last ranks. yea. so ai can be considered monster,missions looked at like quests, and grind can be considered geting your rank up. yea all while holding gun or what ever you are at the time.

Dude, its just another fps.. The fact that you play it doesnt make it an unique game...

You can consider a shemale to be a woman, but when you go deep into her, you will find out that its just a shemale.

Dude, its just another fps.. The fact that you play it doesnt make it an unique game...

You can consider a shemale to be a woman, but when you go deep into her, you will find out that its just a shemale.

you aparently havent played enough fps to see the difference. theres slim to none fps that let you fight with over 500+ people on the map of europe its the actual map of europe real towns of europe. you need to play this game then talk. ive played lots of fps and liked them but there still jsut another fps this one is by far more advance and has mmorpg content/affect put into it. im not gonna argue with it about it anymore. just another fps is 30/60 players server based fpsgame.play it then talk to me again.

yea they do need to add more modern wepon style mmorpg/fps

you aparently havent played enough fps to see the difference. theres slim to none fps that let you fight with over 500+ people on the map of europe its the actual map of europe real towns of europe. you need to play this game then talk. ive played lots of fps and liked them but there still jsut another fps this one is by far more advance and has mmorpg content/affect put into it. im not gonna argue with it about it anymore. just another fps is 30/60 players server based fpsgame.play it then talk to me again.

>:(

"World War II: Battleground Europe is a multiplayer FPS that can be played against hundreds of enemies..."

J-U-S-T A-N-O-T-H-E-R F-P-S

>:(

"World War II: Battleground Europe is a multiplayer FPS that can be played against hundreds of enemies..."

J-U-S-T A-N-O-T-H-E-R F-P-S

i cant belive they understate themselves like that.theres even a site wer u can see all the maps of mmorpgs and they put ww2 onlines map on there and its like 6x larger then all the mmorpgs out. tell me what makes it a fps besides its being fps gameplay?

WWII Online has bogus payment support, and the trial requires personal info and credit cards and stuff, imo it's not worth it.

Do you kill each other or do you kill Monsters and bosses, do quests, and grind, while holding guns?

If you kill each other, than its just another fps.

except for killing monsters you do everything else u listed you need to play this game if you think its another fps its unlike any fps you ever played and ive played like all of them.

Dudes, you gotta understand... WwII is an EVOLVED FPS, above all others, but its just a FPS!!!


They need to make an MMORPG with Fps Features (GUNS!)...... WWII Is a FPS WITH MMORPG FEATURES.

WWII Online has bogus payment support, and the trial requires personal info and credit cards and stuff, imo it's not worth it.

i dont know its got amazing wars and amazing towns can also destroy towns. great action and becouse you traveled some make you wanna hold onto your life way more.

It seems like a great game, I'm just not willing go through all of that crap just to try it, though.

saying a FPS it's an MMORPG it's actually suffering from oligophrenia to understand the clear different between a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER and a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME

Dudes, you gotta understand... WwII is an EVOLVED FPS, above all others, but its just a FPS!!!


They need to make an MMORPG with Fps Features (GUNS!)...... WWII Is a FPS WITH MMORPG FEATURES.

ok ill accept that but its not just a fps its a war. yea ok you want mmorpg/fps try endless ages other then that they need more mmorpg/fps with modern wepons not sci fi they always do sci fi bs.

saying a FPS it's an MMORPG it's actually suffering from oligophrenia to understand the clear different between a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER and a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME

Who the fuck said that? Are you blind or something? Are you retarded or something?

I Said WWII is a FPS with MMORPG FEATURES..

You know what FEATURES STANDS FOR?

saying a FPS it's an MMORPG it's actually suffering from oligophrenia to understand the clear different between a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER and a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME
it funny though how much people do role play like there real military in this game. and you do have to work together listen to yuor commander. thats kinda rpg but trying to argue rpg is to much bs.

Someone said Horror... that would be an interesting one but not sure how it could be implemented well. BUT I totally agree and hadn't even thought of it until someone said so.
My other choice is more games like Eve, the SciFi that involves ships and more something not just scifi theme but actually scifi completely.

Someone said Horror... that would be an interesting one but not sure how it could be implemented well. BUT I totally agree and hadn't even thought of it until someone said so.
My other choice is more games like Eve, the SciFi that involves ships and more something not just scifi theme but actually scifi completely.



Well, but it must be a real HORROR game... Not like a standard MMORPG just like all other but with a gore enviroment.. like requiem.

Who the fuck said that? Are you blind or something? Are you retarded or something?

I Said WWII is a FPS with MMORPG FEATURES..

You know what FEATURES STANDS FOR?

Seems like you suffer from severe oligophrenia as I wasn't referring to you at all rather to girtrute which quite clearly don't understand the difference between FPS and MMORPG, please check your doctor and try to do something with the already very very few neurons you posses, you embarrass yourself right in an internet community and I hope you don't do the same in real life


it funny though how much people do role play like there real military in this game. and you do have to work together listen to yuor commander. thats kinda rpg but trying to argue rpg is to much bs.

my god.....you still don't understand the difference between those two online genres...just stop posting here already, thanks

Well, but it must be a real HORROR game... Not like a standard MMORPG just like all other but with a gore enviroment.. like requiem.

Yup. It's all about the sound effects, the music, the mood of the game. I think that in order for a MMORPG to be really scary, it MUST have a First Person interface, seriously. I mean, not knowing what is lurking behind you? Hearing footsteps or dripping sounds on your back while exploring a dark hallway with just a flashlight? Now that's real horror. Heck, the monster's don't even need to be all mutated and with 104 eyes and tentacles to be actually creepy.

Seems like you suffer from severe oligophrenia as I wasn't referring to you at all rather to girtrude which quite clearly don't understand the difference between FPS and MMORPG, please check your doctor and try to do something with the already very very few neurons you posses, you embarrass yourself right in an internet community and I hope you don't do the same in real life



my god.....you still don't understand the difference between those two online genres...just stop posting here already, thanks


No, i dont suffer from that. I dont even know whats that. Lol.

The fact is that, im brazilian, my english is not that good, and I couldnt see who you were talking to. And since i was the one that said something similiar to that, i tought that was to me.

Sorry.

No, i dont suffer from that. I dont even know whats that. Lol.

The fact is that, im brazilian, my english is not that good, and I couldnt see who you were talking to. And since i was the one that said something similiar to that, i tought that was to me.

Sorry.

apology accepted

Someone said Horror... that would be an interesting one but not sure how it could be implemented well. BUT I totally agree and hadn't even thought of it until someone said so.
My other choice is more games like Eve, the SciFi that involves ships and more something not just scifi theme but actually scifi completely.

exanimus is looking promising.

exanimus is looking promising.

It's going to be P2P, though.

A F2P hide and seek MMO.

'Nuff Said.

You all know that would pwn.

Now, back to something serious.

I'd like to see more in the Sci-Fi genre.

Tabula Rasa was Aight, Anarchy online isn't worth it unless you buy the expansions, although, I played that for quite sometime.

What would really make my day, a dystopian future cyberpunk MMO.

A F2P hide and seek MMO.

'Nuff Said.

You all know that would pwn.

I don't know why one doesn't exist yet. XD The concept is so simple it could pretty much work out.

its not so much the anime look that get me. its the ones they make chibi such as ragnarok,trickster,flyff games make you look like your border line gay and a little boy.

Ragnarok was fine.

They need MMOFPS. Something like Warrock but EVERY player is in 1 gigantic map. There are two factions; the dark side and the light side. There will be jets, helicopter, boats. submarine, tanks, motorcycle, futuristic weapons that shoots lasers, rockets, grenade launchers, snipers, hand grenades, mines, etc... Monsters will roam the world. (No, there is no specific spawn point for the monsters. They just walk around wherever they want.) You get exp by killing mobs or players of the other faction. Each level up gives you a skill point in which you can invest. Four category of skills include Flight (jets, helicopter, spaceships, etc...), Vehicle (tanks, motercycle, etc...), Water (submarine, boats, battleship, air carrier, etc...), and Foot (weapons and armor upgrades)

To sum it up. Just think of Warrock but every player is one gigantic battlefield. Better yet, just think of modern war in real life but with monsters roaming the world.

i'd like to see a F2P neocron personally.
hell i'm tempted to buy Neocron 2 when i get a job.

scifi/ancient/fantasy/ancient fantasy
so no to planes/robots or any chinese/hindu/european/african/jp/korean settings
yes to magic/mystical monsters/heavy armor/ with a hint of realism.

what they need to do is make a horror fps mmo......not like tabula rasa or faces of mankind but something where you play in fp perspective but you can change it to 3rd person and the game takes place in several countries in the world.....so you go around town meeting people(actual players and npcs) get certain quests, then you and the people that are exploring together go do the quest....the quest will be instanced so that way they can focus on better questing......now during a quest the gameplay will be similar to re4 or condemned 2 just with other people...and the areas would be huge so that way they would require you to split into groups to explore the area then youd be able to use a headset on the pc to talk through an in game walkie talkie.......man that would be full of win

Agree on Survival/Horror as well. I kind of want a MMO where you just shoot zombies for the sake of human survival or something... (and it has to be WAY better than DarkEden -_-, just make it FPS) whatever. lol. Just shoot or cut crazy scary stuff similar to in Resident Evil with any weapons we possibly can think of.

Hmm.. genre using American Revolution period isn't really that exploited either. The closest game I can think of is Sword of the New World. Somehow they never make games where you get rifles/pistols that need to get reloaded after every shot or something =p. That combined with fantasy game should be pretty nice.

Hmmm.. genre using Jurassic Age or whatever? We don't really have a game that has a dinosaur theme somehow; not even Jurassic Park Online. I thought dinosaurs are pretty popular? lmao The closest I can think of is Stone Age 2?

I always wanted a sci-fig game where you can be a as small as a fighter pilot to as big as a carrier or battleship commander; and the game should play somewhat like a combination of MMOFPS + MMORTS. Perhaps something like X3: Reunion series but instead make it MMO? Not to mention, there are not enough MMO that you can travel outer-space freely (if at all), to be honest =/.

Oh, also modern age genre. Not the FPS modern combat theme, but gang fight theme where you just be a normal gang member, or own lands, build stuff, recruit thugs, fight the other gangs, etc. There was one really old game called Nage or something that has that kind of theme, but I think that was it. Looking for something similar to GTA but MMO version. Hmm.. is GTA 4 MMO or what?


So yeah. I probably don't have the best ideas around (if not the worst anyway); just kind of pointing out what kind of game themes I feel are lacking in the MMO market.

I guess it would be really hard to create a horror/survival MMORPG, since the normal survival/horror game example "Doom,Fear etc" is kinda successful since you are alone which makes it more scary. How would you like to play a horror game with 500people with flashlight walking thru a creepy tunnel feels, den you alone walking thru it with the same conditions. Anyway thats my opinion. :)

I guess it would be really hard to create a horror/survival MMORPG, since the normal survival/horror game example "Doom,Fear etc" is kinda successful since you are alone which makes it more scary. How would you like to play a horror game with 500people with flashlight walking thru a creepy tunnel feels, den you alone walking thru it with the same conditions. Anyway thats my opinion. :)

I have yet to see a MMORPG with 500 people on the same place. A large map or a player limit on the server would pretty much fix that.

Multiplayer horror would not work, Zombie mmos will because no one is scared of them anymore they are a staple of FPS and MMOs now.

Take system shock 2, its creepy when your alone, but with a friend its not creepy at all.

That was just an example...tho >_>.

You know the idea of a horror working would be nice. I mean think of it this way, yoiu all have flash lights, but so do some of the monsters. Sometimes it will be a monster that will come close to killing you because it slashes your neck sometimes it will just be another human scared and attacks you wildly that scares you. So I guess they could add a good amount of horror into a game. Problem is for it to be good it would have to be rated M and then it wouldn't get as much buyers.

What I would like is:

A dark themed car battle mmo with huge maps and lots of players at a single map. That means a really big map. No laser/futuristic stuff, no nitros too, just cars made for mayhem and destruction.

I think we need more action MMO's. Maybe with gameplay similar to Castlevania or something.

I'm not too big on Survival Horror games (I get scared extremely easily). I watched a Fatal Frame video like, a month ago and I'm still scared shitless now.

I just thought probably worst possible genre for mmorpgs. Underwater sea mmorpg. You fight the enemies with watertrident and the enemies would be sharks, fishs, clamps, everything underwater. Tho the cool feature would be this could be totally something like space-fighter mmo just underwater, you can move every direction, not just back, forward, left and right. But seriously something like space fighting mmo would be cool. Where one needs tactics, and like strategy to drive enemies to mine-fields etc. The range of the weapons just would needed to be somewhat gapped. Like not that you see one enemy 4 lightyears away and you could just blast it off.

Also not so much of genre, but idea what i would once like to see in mmo. In ancient game like chrono trigger there were combo skills, where you needed like 2 to 3 guys perform a single powerful attack. This could be made use somewhat like usage of weapons. Like you could dual wield a fire staff and ice staff then make spells that use both of the elements. Or maybe you could like cast fire-spell on party member and next skill is going to use the fire spells power that was casted upon. For example you cast fire buff on monk, monk casts next shield on all players ---> it becomes fire-shield.

Penumbra mmo = ftw?