Tell me, what makes this game different from WoW? Looks pretty much like the same gameplay just different mechanics.

I havn't read up on it, im at work so I really can't lol....but I can visit this forum. Tell me what will make this game revolutionary, I may want to try it out.

Don't get mad b/c I said it looks like wow.

Look at vids on youtube it just looks in my eyes more fun at the moment

It is a Realm Vs. Realm based game. It involves actualy one realm, trying to pwn and take over the other realm. There are 2 sides Order and Destruction and each has 3 races and each race has 4 classes. Its pretty epic because if your a dwarf you could actually take over the orcs area and take over there capital. You could also go back into the P v E stuff if you enjoy it. Youtube the game and look at the epic battles.

Although the game is Pay to Play monthly it looks really good. If you have herd of Dark Age of Camelot they were the first mmorpg to practice RvR systems and it became the start of a new line up. Check it out:

Offical:
www.warhammeronline.com

Unoffical Forums(questions and info):
www.warhammeralliance.com

I actually just went to Games Day Toronto where I got to play WAR in a RvR 7v7 battle it was sooooooo epic. Cant even explain. Good Game thats all I can say about RvR. You also have guilds that level up and you can get a custom Flag for your guild, one person can carry it and when in battle it gives you a boost in Moral and buffs. Also lvling cities that level when your realm levels.

Good ol'Doac it was one of the best games of its time, 2nd reason i want to try WAR out

personally i think it looks like WoW with less classes and races with more Graphical Detail.
Untill they add the Skavin(the only race i liked in War) its a pass for me.

and to all of you going "War came first!!!!1111/1/1" i know but WoW was the first to reach the market(not including EQ for this comparison.)

It is a Realm Vs. Realm based game. It involves actualy one realm, trying to pwn and take over the other realm. There are 2 sides Order and Destruction and each has 3 races and each race has 4 classes. Its pretty epic because if your a dwarf you could actually take over the orcs area and take over there capital. You could also go back into the P v E stuff if you enjoy it. Youtube the game and look at the epic battles.

Although the game is Pay to Play monthly it looks really good. If you have herd of Dark Age of Camelot they were the first mmorpg to practice RvR systems and it became the start of a new line up. Check it out:

Offical:
www.warhammeronline.com

Unoffical Forums(questions and info):
www.warhammeralliance.com

I actually just went to Games Day Toronto where I got to play WAR in a RvR 7v7 battle it was sooooooo epic. Cant even explain. Good Game thats all I can say about RvR. You also have guilds that level up and you can get a custom Flag for your guild, one person can carry it and when in battle it gives you a boost in Moral and buffs. Also lvling cities that level when your realm levels.

Sounds intresting unfortunatly youtube is blocked here lol. I'll definetly check it out when I get home, and P2P is no problem im already playing for AoC.

Is the game wasd or is it point and click? Also is it a good battle system like AoC or how does it play?

mind you, WoW is gonna have RvR in the new expansion... >.>

but the part with each race has it's own classes is kool :D

what makes it different? it has true world PVP

Simple question before I explain.
How does
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Look like
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Think before you say that, it really gets annoying when the two games don't look alike.
Second, WoW took its main lore from the origonal Warhammer table top game ;).

Simple question before I explain.
How does

Look like

Think before you say that, it really gets annoying when the two games don't look alike.
Second, WoW took its main lore from the origonal Warhammer table top game ;).They dont look alike....I hate it when people try to compare the two and say how is it different from WoW. Well Graphics wise, WAR wins. Lore and story...WAR wins again. Everything looks different in WAR. Dont compare WoW to WAR. Theyre two different games with different gameplay, graphics, etc..

Simple question before I explain.
How does


Think before you say that, it really gets annoying when the two games don't look alike.
Second, WoW took its main lore from the origonal Warhammer table top game ;).

I can understand what you mean, but hopefully you're not trying to be biased here with those screenshots trying to make War that far superior. I mean, we're all reasonable people here right?

ONrpg has reasonable people?
Since when, and why was i not informed.

Simple question before I explain.
How does

Look like

Think before you say that, it really gets annoying when the two games don't look alike.
Second, WoW took its main lore from the origonal Warhammer table top game ;).

It doesn't look the same.... but guess what main lore Warhammer Online is coming from? Oh yeah "Fantasy" or the original Warhammer table top game Oooo so something it similar? lawl..


Edit: Also about the RvR WoW already has it....It's BG (Battle Grounds) are broken up into groups that pvp each other everyday. So it doesn't even need a patch... It already has it.

people can talk about WAR and hype it all they want its still set up for FAIL. Quote me on that

I can understand what you mean, but hopefully you're not trying to be biased here with those screenshots trying to make War that far superior. I mean, we're all reasonable people here right?

Umm... I did nothing of the thing. I was simply showing that the graphics are completely different between the two. However I would say that the graphics are better in WAR but it is the opinion of each and every person not mine alone to decide that. Besides WAR still hasn't put in final graphics, they are using minimum graphics in all testing phases because they believe changing graphics is the easiest (which it is) because you just change the image/file. Coding is much harder to change after a game is released.
XeoD the company that made RvR the first time was the company making WAR. As well the pvp was second hand for WoW while it will be one of the main focuses in WAR. I do know that WoW is trying to change this, re-balance and make pvp more fun but for the time being the game is lacking in a good pvp system. We cannot say that WAR is better because it is not out, however we can say that with their past experience their pvp system will probably be better.
The two games will be different, WAR will have many features that WoW doesn't have. One of them is a system in which you can add pieces of "trophies" and other things onto your self, this will change your entire look, and is a way to show achievements you have done. As well the Lore book and discovery ways are much more in WAR. You can discover thousands of things and just get titles for them, say you make it to the top of the highest mountain in the game just for fun (which I have done in games for the hell of it) you might get a title "King of the Mountain" these are some of the things it will offer.
But let it be said, that ALL INDUSTRIES take the best that a GREAT game had to offer and work on it. So WoW was the first to pull off Raids BEAUTIFULLY, that doesn't mean it's a copy of WOW if someone else does Raids. My best example is, what is your favorite fast food restaurant? Is it Burger King, McDonolds, Wendy's or something else? Chances are they have "stole" something from McDonolds, the most obvious of things is the "Meals" which McDonolds first used the 1,2,3 etc system so that they would be easier to order. As well as fast food was taken from them. So to try and say a game is just copying WoW is the same as saying that Jack in the Box is the same as McDonolds.
So when people talk, think about this first =).

i admitted the graphical Detail is better then WoW but i have this huge feeling it will do nothing new.

also according to your sig Lo your gone so we don't have to listen to you xD

=p Yes I am gone, but I also edited my last post. I would like to mention that AoC didn't do anything new. The battle system just requires a few more button hitting and most attacks have an AOE now... if we see life like that then no game is really new, just combining them differently.
Yes I am gone, but really not forever, I still am on daily.

Umm... I did nothing of the thing. I was simply showing that the graphics are completely different between the two. However I would say that the graphics are better in WAR but it is the opinion of each and every person not mine alone to decide that. Besides WAR still hasn't put in final graphics, they are using minimum graphics in all testing phases because they believe changing graphics is the easiest (which it is) because you just change the image/file. Coding is much harder to change after a game is released.
XeoD the company that made RvR the first time was the company making WAR. As well the pvp was second hand for WoW while it will be one of the main focuses in WAR. I do know that WoW is trying to change this, re-balance and make pvp more fun but for the time being the game is lacking in a good pvp system. We cannot say that WAR is better because it is not out, however we can say that with their past experience their pvp system will probably be better.
The two games will be different, WAR will have many features that WoW doesn't have. One of them is a system in which you can add pieces of "trophies" and other things onto your self, this will change your entire look, and is a way to show achievements you have done. As well the Lore book and discovery ways are much more in WAR. You can discover thousands of things and just get titles for them, say you make it to the top of the highest mountain in the game just for fun (which I have done in games for the hell of it) you might get a title "King of the Mountain" these are some of the things it will offer.
But let it be said, that ALL INDUSTRIES take the best that a GREAT game had to offer and work on it. So WoW was the first to pull off Raids BEAUTIFULLY, that doesn't mean it's a copy of WOW if someone else does Raids. My best example is, what is your favorite fast food restaurant? Is it Burger King, McDonolds, Wendy's or something else? Chances are they have "stole" something from McDonolds, the most obvious of things is the "Meals" which McDonolds first used the 1,2,3 etc system so that they would be easier to order. As well as fast food was taken from them. So to try and say a game is just copying WoW is the same as saying that Jack in the Box is the same as McDonolds.
So when people talk, think about this first =).

welll, most people that say WAR it's a "clone" of WoW are just mindless Fanboys that haven't played anything besides it

I mean I've read ignorants say EQII it's a clone of WoW, yeah...that's how much ignorance it's in the WoW average playerbase :-/

Is the game wasd or is it point and click? Also is it a good battle system like AoC or how does it play?

I'd really like to know this as well. Could somebody please tell me if it has BOTH point and click and WASD?

Cause I really, really hate using the keyboard to play a game. So if it just uses the WASD keys then I won't play it >:(.

It doesn't look the same.... but guess what main lore Warhammer Online is coming from? Oh yeah "Fantasy" or the original Warhammer table top game Oooo so something it similar? lawl..


Edit: Also about the RvR WoW already has it....It's BG (Battle Grounds) are broken up into groups that pvp each other everyday. So it doesn't even need a patch... It already has it.You call WoW's battlegrounds RvR? Bullshit. RvR in WAR is LARGE SCALE battles against other realms. Meaning a lot of people. Not to mention siege battles too.

people can talk about WAR and hype it all they want its still set up for FAIL. Quote me on thatI quote....It's Funny you havent played the game yet and youre already calling it fail. Nice one idiot.

its called Dark ages of camelot.

Cyber should come and explain this.. Imo WAR doesnt look anything like WoW (graphics wise), and the gameplay will be so much different too. It does take some things from WoW yes, but is that a bad thing? It only takes some small things anyways (talent system etc).

It doesn't look the same.... but guess what main lore Warhammer Online is coming from? Oh yeah "Fantasy" or the original Warhammer table top game Oooo so something it similar? lawl..


Edit: Also about the RvR WoW already has it....It's BG (Battle Grounds) are broken up into groups that pvp each other everyday. So it doesn't even need a patch... It already has it.

Sorry, what? Wow has RVR? um.. if your trying to pass battle grounds off as rvr, nope not going to happen, why? its limited to a set amount of people.

Tell me, what makes this game different from WoW? Looks pretty much like the same gameplay just different mechanics.

I havn't read up on it, im at work so I really can't lol....but I can visit this forum. Tell me what will make this game revolutionary, I may want to try it out.

Don't get mad b/c I said it looks like wow.

From the people I know in the beta, they state themselves that WAR is basically a WoW clone, and from the looks of it I couldnt agree more.

I don't really care if it's a clone or not tbh.

BUT:

1) It does seem so. and some people in the beta claim so... But we will have to try it first to know

2) What new things does it offer? RvR? WoW had semi RvR with sieges and such, and DAoC was pure RvR. So that's not new.

WAR has a lot to offer the PvE and PvP communities. Every single player has an effect on the realm. Either in PvP or PvE, its all tracked. So that adds a ton of depth right there. Also everyone in beta is only able to test small chuncks of the game at once. Some people also left beta long ago. So they have set their mind maybe on the fact its a clone. Until everything is unlocked to the players. We will not know, we only know what we are shown. I believe WAR will be a strong contender once it is released. Also just so you know, the majority of MMO's share common features. Though a lot of improvements can be made to the current ones. Each one has their own twist on crafting, ect. Now when it comes down to the core of the game. WAR is built around PvP. That also includes a huge amount of PvE. So until launch day. Its all speculation in my eyes, though I still feel WAR will remain strong.

War will own wow, cuz most of the games already do

I really want to set a lot of people straight here, but due to the NDA I cannot.

However, I can say this:
WoW is a PvE game with PvP in it.
WAR is a PvP (RvR) game with PvE in it.

There is a major difference there between them. RvR is large scale and small scale battles that have effects on the game world as a whole and bring benefit (or negative aspects) to your faction, guild, and individual players. WoW BG's are *NOT* RvR and WAR has BG's, but they are called "Scenarios" as you can read about on their main site. Eastern Plagueland Towers, Silithus Bases, Halaa, Hellfire Pennisula Towers, and Zangarmarsh Towers are very failed attempts WoW has made to try and create RvR mechanics.

No matter what people want to say about WoW changing when WOTLK comes out it's not turning into RvR. With a little googling you can go play WOTLK already and see how poorly things are being done and balance will take a very long time for it (Yes, it's leaked Alpha... blah blah blah). WoW is trying to move in a PvP direction I will agree, but that is to try and make it into an "E-Sport" which to make money on. Anyone who has played Arena's in WoW know they are a joke and I personally have had teams in 2v2/3v3/5v5 above 2300 rating and it's simple countercomping and abusing LOS or OP classes. PvP in WoW is at an all-time low and that says a lot if you talk to people who were hardcore PvP'ers prior to the 41pt talent Pre-TBC changes. It's sad when we miss the Rank system for the High Warlord/Grand Marshall grind.

The WOTLK "Epic Siege Warfare" and attempt at RvR is worse than AOC except that it's not instanced. You run up to a siege spot and you click a button to release the catapult. No building, aiming, mini-games, etc... Just press a button to blow up a barricade. Running Dead Mines (Blow up door with cannon) or Live Stratholme (Shoot gunners with cannon) is actually more RvR oriented than what they are trying to pass off to us in WOTLK.

WAR will not unseat WoW as the game to play for the masses because it's scope is not to be. It's offered as an alternative to WoW and will do quite well. It will draw the PvP crowd who wants to play a game where PvP serves a purpose and isn't just about getting new gear. DAoC players understand what I am saying when it comes to RvR (PvP) that actually meant something.

I myself have been a loyal WoW subscriber/fan since CBT Phase 1 and as of last week I am no longer a subscriber and have no plans to come back in WOTLK.

As for the person who won't play WAR because of the lack of Skaven. </shrug> That's what expansions are for. If they give you everything at once, then you have nothing to look forward to or hope for. Just my 2 cents.

I dislike wow,


will i dislike war?

I dislike wow,


will i dislike war?Depends. When did you FIRST try WOW? How many games have you stayed with for over 6 months and what games. If you answer to in the last 2 years, and less then 2 for other games, chances are you won't like WoW either. I have nothing to base this on except observations from people around onRPG.

I dislike wow,


will i dislike war?Completely subjective to what it is you dislike about WoW.

this game seems quite jam packed full of PvP goodies so i won't say anything there....but what does it offer in terms of PvE?

WAR looks pretty good WoW is too carebear

1. Warhammer universe > WoW universe.
2. RVR!!!!
3. Everything you do helps your realm.
4. 24 classes (maybe theyre mirrored, but they still have a different look and different skills)
5. Armor dyes
6. Trophy's you can put on your armor.
7. Skill matters more
8. When you capture a city in RVR, you get to quest inside it, and do an instance for loot inside it. And more ofcourse.
9. GOBLINZ!!!!!

Okay here. The game is playable in WASD format and it is still unknown if they will support Point and click action (ohh what fun).

The games Realm Vs. Realm is NOT battle grounds. They actually have Open RvR areas or you can enter a fully RvR world. In the Normal world there are some areas which are purly RvR and when you enter it (not instanced) it just gives you a 10 second timer to get out if you don't want to risk getting pwned. The higher up the tiers (higher leveled areas) the places you are in become more RvR then PvE, so although you can max out the main level (40) in just PvE or RvR it is better to do both.

Don't mistake the Battle grounds as RvR although in the end EVERYTHING you do may it be instanced battles open RvR or just questing will give your realm more power and eventually being able to take over your oppents main citys and areas.

Now lets say in WoW you kill someone on the oppsite side, you prolly wont get tons of XP, but in War the game is equal when it is compared to questing and and killing. It makes the grinding more fun.

Edit: War also has 24 classes, and although some might look the same (eg. Knight vs Chosen) each have different skills and different paths. Each class has there own 3 paths which lead to different skills, no 2 skills are the same on either end of the war (as far as i know) and that's why it beats WoWs class system. Who want to make the same Paladin but in a different starting point?

I AM NOT A FANBOIE OF THE WAR PEOPLEZZORXs! I really enjoyed Wow and Daoc (to name some) and I just find War to be better (as far as Ive seen during the few games ive played on Games Day) and also the graphics are similar but not exactly the same. In Wow they make it alittle more blury around the body parts and object, but War tries to make everything crisp but it follows through.

Please note: I know I can't spell for my life, but english is my second language

this game seems quite jam packed full of PvP goodies so i won't say anything there....but what does it offer in terms of PvE?

PvE players actually help your race in the war so hopefully there is cooler quests like blow up the enemy's stronghold (consisting of just NPCs). TBH this game is mainly RvR and maybe it will convert casual PvEers to a coldhearted PvP champion. I can say i mainly play games for the PvE but i can't wait to get into a fight with some of the opposing Race.
I still don't even know what race i am gonna be. Thinking about being a Half Elf White Lion but then the chaos look cool and there is still one class of Dark Elves to be released.

I dislike wow,


will i dislike war?

i dislike it too >.>

with theyer fucking gnomes and dwarfs. and then the alliance goes by spamming that the horde is for little children.

WAKE UP DUMBASSES YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES WITH LITTLE,UGLY,REPULSIVE GNOMES!

SHEESH!!!... god i had that in me for a loooooooong time!

anyways, il try war, but il stay away from wow, as long as those dickholes from work dont start playing it, every day i hear "blah blah horde is for babies, horde gets more EXP, horde gets better items,etc..." bunch of idiotic fanboys they are.

PvE players actually help your race in the war so hopefully there is cooler quests like blow up the enemy's stronghold (consisting of just NPCs). TBH this game is mainly RvR and maybe it will convert casual PvEers to a coldhearted PvP champion. I can say i mainly play games for the PvE but i can't wait to get into a fight with some of the opposing Race.
I still don't even know what race i am gonna be. Thinking about being a Half Elf White Lion but then the chaos look cool and there is still one class of Dark Elves to be released.

Mainly, yes, but do you have to rvr? no you can get to whatever "end game" war will have without rvring one time.. Though as you go into higher areas the pve zone shrinks more and more till theres only little parts anf HUGE ASS rvr parts XD

There should bigger RvR parts later in the game because in the end its about fighting a war and people don't want you grinding anymore trying to be the best if you arn't helping you race. Can't wait till open beta though for that head start.

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There should bigger RvR parts later in the game because in the end its about fighting a war and people don't want you grinding anymore trying to be the best if you arn't helping you race. Can't wait till open beta though for that head start.

from their podcasts: the game starts being 30% PvP 70% PvE in the lower tiers, to end being 70% PvP 30% PvE.

also,noone is gonna frown if you just PvE, becouse you can actually be helping your Realm as much as a full PvPer is (watch podcasts for further info on this)

its just that it would be a nonsense,there are better games to PvE,and the PvE content will fall short after a while in WAR.

its like playing Guild Wars trying to mainly PvE...you can, but it wont be any fun after a while,and you are missing 85% of what the game has to offer.....

The best part of this game compared to WoW is, the world actually changes. In WoW the war isn't changing, no one is actually winning the fight. In War your realm can take over other races and make there land become yours. Lets say your just PvEing and you begin to see the ground change, the trees begin to change becuase your race is over powering the others. It becomes your land!

The best part of this game compared to WoW is, the world actually changes. In WoW the war isn't changing, noone is actually winning the fight. In War your realm can take over other races and make there land become yours. Lets say your just PvEing and you begin to see the ground change, the trees begin to change becuase your race is over powering the others. It becomes your land!

ok....I came with that...didn't know about that feature....O_o