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efex
06-22-2008, 08:06 AM
whats up with aion online it looks really cool..is it gona be free?!:)

http://www.aiononline.com/us/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIkwaVds6nk

MageMoa
06-22-2008, 08:07 AM
NO it will be p2p =]

beshino
06-22-2008, 09:17 AM
NO it will be p2p =]

Yup.
Looks sweet though! :)

hyarume
06-22-2008, 11:30 AM
Expect it in Q3 or Q4

neothaka
06-22-2008, 11:49 AM
do you people ever read FAQS, or even anything at all?
it's clearly mentioned before that it's going to be P2P

i would also like to call a vote to abolish the search function as it seems that "search" is a worthless feature that only seems to confuse users ...

ArcDevil
06-22-2008, 07:40 PM
its more or less Lineage 3
so unless u have a remarkable taste for unholy grinds and endless hours of free time,i'd skip that game

nojohnso
06-22-2008, 08:52 PM
its more or less Lineage 3
so unless u have a remarkable taste for unholy grinds and endless hours of free time,i'd skip that game

How do you know? From what I've read from those who played the closed beta, the game mimics World of Warcraft in terms of game play.

ArcDevil
06-22-2008, 09:00 PM
How do you know? From what I've read from those who played the closed beta, the game mimics World of Warcraft in terms of game play.

funny, i heard what i said from the closed beta players
and any of them found the sligthest similatiry to WoW,in absolutly anything. on the contrary,they just said its a revamped L2 with the ability to fly for a very short time,after an unholy grind to get that skill..and that in the CB,were the exp rate suposedly is ten folded....

Alivada
06-22-2008, 09:14 PM
It looks really nice but from the videos it showed people grinding on monsters and yes flying is cool but really how long will it be till the novalty ends. I can't see this game having anything special apart from its graphics and if im gonna pay for a game this year for graphics im gonna buy Guild Wars 2.

Mxerdude
06-22-2008, 09:19 PM
If this game were f2p I would kill myself. It deserves p2p.

ChickenDewd21
06-22-2008, 09:29 PM
funny, i heard what i said from the closed beta players
and any of them found the sligthest similatiry to WoW,in absolutly anything. on the contrary,they just said its a revamped L2 with the ability to fly for a very short time,after an unholy grind to get that skill

That's funny, either you're heavily misinformed or you're completely biased because I read something that differs in the Aion wiki...



Flight

A distinctive feature that this game will have is the concept of flying. This will be a limited [active skill], during which the character will be able to perform various exclusive skills against ground and air players. It will also be used to find higher elevation areas or materials that are not accessible through walking. Initially when you receive the power of the Daeva at level 10 you'll receive a flight indicator with a 1 minute timer. Later the game will come out with items to upgrade your flight time.

I'm leaning more towards biased. No reason to bash another game people are anticipating because you favor another.

leathel
06-22-2008, 09:29 PM
its more or less Lineage 3
so unless u have a remarkable taste for unholy grinds and endless hours of free time,i'd skip that game

you are an idiot lmao. for the record there is gonna be a Lineage 3.

And please check out some videos and try make a comment like that again. Even read the translated review it is said that the game is very fun and has quests AND a storyline so dont spread your bullshit here. NCSOFT have never failed to dissapoint me with their F2P/B2P games and i dont think that they will here.

Aion and WAR are going to be the next best games i think (dunno who puplished WAR tho)

And for the record i checked a while back its saying that we should expect it around Q1 of 2009 no surprise since its still in Korean testing.

o one more thing about the grind since unless you have checked some fansites you probably havent seen this quote but suposedly they have found a way to minimise the grind on this game. (grind meaning repeated actions bla bla bla) and that was one of NCSOFTs official quotes id love to give this game a try and see what its really like.

So far from videos it really looks like a Next Gen mmorpg and seems like its gonna be one we have truly been waiting for.

EDIT* ya he seriously is just being biased. Remember this game is P2P so what could honestly go wrong with being hyped about it? it aint like we are gonna have a crap dev team like F2P games.

ArcDevil
06-22-2008, 09:41 PM
im not biased,and all the info i got came straight from closed beta testers in mmorpg.com

just go there and drop your questions in their forum.and dont cry when you get replied just what i said.

as far as im concerned,i dont care the smallest fuck about Aion,nor for the good nor for the bad, i will play WAR,and thats all i need.

edit: one way or the other, ppl got to be really idiot to believe that NCSoft and grind are not totally linked terms. for them,"softing" the grind, is making it 9 months instead of 14. thay have always failed to bring a western PoV on their games. they are the climax of "asian mega-grind" game developing.

so yeah,i laught at all of you believing Aion will have paces any similar to a western game like WoW AoC or WAR.

ChickenDewd21
06-22-2008, 09:49 PM
im not biased,and all the info i got came straight from closed beta testers in mmorpg.com

just go there and drop your questions in their forum.and dont cry when you get replied just what i said.

as far as im concerned,i dont care the smallest fuck about Aion,nor for the good nor for the bad, i will play WAR,and thats all i need.

edit: one way or the other, ppl got to be really idiot to believe that NCSoft and grind are not totally linked terms. for them,"softing" the grind, is making it 9 months instead of 14. thay have always failed to bring a western PoV on their games. they are the climax of "asian mega-grind" game developing.

so yeah,i laught at all of you believing Aion will have paces any similar to a western game like WoW AoC or WAR.

All I see is extreme bias. You can stomp your feet and whine all you want and you're free to express your (biased) opinion but don't come waltzing in here posting bullshit about Aion trying to dissuade people from playing because you like a different game better. How old are you, 10?

hyarume
06-22-2008, 09:54 PM
im not biased,and all the info i got came straight from closed beta testers in mmorpg.com

just go there and drop your questions in their forum.and dont cry when you get replied just what i said.

as far as im concerned,i dont care the smallest fuck about Aion,nor for the good nor for the bad, i will play WAR,and thats all i need.

edit: one way or the other, ppl got to be really idiot to believe that NCSoft and grind are not totally linked terms. for them,"softing" the grind, is making it 9 months instead of 14. thay have always failed to bring a western PoV on their games. they are the climax of "asian mega-grind" game developing.

so yeah,i laught at all of you believing Aion will have paces any similar to a western game like WoW AoC or WAR.

Geez, u suck...


mmorpg.com im there too, and there is only cb in korean, WHAT ELSE CAN THE NON KOREANS- UNDERSTANDERS DO then grind.. LOL how to quest when u havent gotten the slightest idea HOW!

ArcDevil
06-22-2008, 10:12 PM
All I see is extreme bias. You can stomp your feet and whine all you want and you're free to express your (biased) opinion but don't come waltzing in here posting bullshit about Aion trying to dissuade people from playing because you like a different game better. How old are you, 10?

i dont dissuade anyone from playing. go on,and enjoy it. but telling everybody in this board that Aion is any different from a "Lineage 3" or that they will find no grind will only go against your interests.
considering that i dont care a damn about Aion (if it sucks it sucks and if its amazing its amazing,could i care less?) i think im the only one here non-biased towards this game.

Nante
06-22-2008, 10:13 PM
Geez, u suck...


mmorpg.com im there too, and there is only cb in korean, WHAT ELSE CAN THE NON KOREANS- UNDERSTANDERS DO then grind.. LOL how to quest when u havent gotten the slightest idea HOW!

in mmorpg there still Koreans that make threads about how Aion sux . and YEAH it sux >.>

ArcDevil
06-22-2008, 10:51 PM
dont bother Nante,for them you are nothing but a dirty lier and extremly biased xD

its hilarious,the reluctance of some people to admit or believe what many others have said....

guess its easier to say im the one biased,and that i like to badmouth the game becouse i support other one (?! lmao)...or any other excuse that, in the end, is just the internet counterpart of...this

http://www.vinfolio.com/jsp/blogs/twc-blog-files/uploaded_images/RetailerResponsibility-716720.gif

Avarwen
06-22-2008, 10:56 PM
Have any of you even played the game? If not then you can't judge it.

ArcDevil
06-22-2008, 11:06 PM
Have any of you even played the game? If not then you can't judge it.

so we have to buy a car to judge it? we cant simply get a motor magazine were an experimented reviewer give us comparatives and opinions on the car?

i can pay attention to other's judgement,provided ppl bother to give facts and examples.
i tend to disregard reviews like "oh d00dz its lyk da best game in da worl", and also the opposite "buah,it just sucks". from time to time mature people bothers to write decent reviews

when you get a few of that decent reviews coming from many kind of players (PvPers, PvErs, hardcores, casuals),you can draw your own conclusions even tho you havent played the game.

from what i heard Aion will be an excellent game,if u like the Lineage type of games. Just like WAR will be a fantastic game if u like the DaoC type of games.different games and different gameplay.choose the one that fits you.
ppl should stop trying to fit their desires to what the game really is. otherwise they are bound to have a huge dissapointment,and it will be noone's fault but theirs.

Avarwen
06-22-2008, 11:12 PM
so we have to buy a car to judge it? we cant simply get a motor magazine were an experimented reviewer give us comparatives and opinions on the car?

i can pay attention to other's judgement,provided ppl bother to give facts and examples.
i tend to disregard reviews like "oh d00dz its lyk da best game in da worl", and also the opposite "buah,it just sucks". from time to time mature people bothers to write decent reviews

when you get a few of that decent reviews coming from many kind of players (PvPers, PvErs, hardcores, casuals),you can draw your own conclusions even tho you havent played the game.

It depends on the person like WOW some people love it some people hate it. I played WOW because eveyone said it was good. IMO it was just another genric MMO. You can't always go by what others say sometimes you have to try it yourself.

Nante
06-22-2008, 11:26 PM
dont bother Nante,for them you are nothing but a dirty lier and extremly biased xD

its hilarious,the reluctance of some people to admit or believe what many others have said....

guess its easier to say im the one biased,and that i like to badmouth the game becouse i support other one (?! lmao)...or any other excuse that, in the end, is just the internet counterpart of...this

http://www.vinfolio.com/jsp/blogs/twc-blog-files/uploaded_images/RetailerResponsibility-716720.gif

to tell you something I think most of those guys didnt even bother trying the game and saying OMFGBBQ its OWNZORS . just another grindfest from ncsoft

JunShen
06-23-2008, 12:18 AM
first, sorry my english not good me korean

i play 2 CBs of Aion, is not grindfest as you say.
aion is easy lvlup and nice teamplay like guildwar. all who say aion is grindfest have never clue. remember game is still no ready, ncsoft make sure we get nice game. they did awesome job helping us and fix bug

aion is no grind!

ChickenDewd21
06-23-2008, 12:27 AM
to tell you something I think most of those guys didnt even bother trying the game and saying OMFGBBQ its OWNZORS . just another grindfest from ncsoft

Did you try the game? Could you give me an in-depth review of the unfinished product with bullet points and a summary of the gameplay experience? Oh that's right, not only are you not a professional gaming journalist you've never even played the game, unfinished or not. You've only listened to the opinions of some upset kids on a forum, bashing games they don't like as much as their favorite. Yeah, you should probably shut up now.

beshino
06-23-2008, 12:48 AM
Did you try the game? Could you give me an in-depth review of the unfinished product with bullet points and a summary of the gameplay experience? Oh that's right, not only are you not a professional gaming journalist you've never even played the game, unfinished or not. You've only listened to the opinions of some upset kids on a forum, bashing games they don't like as much as their favorite. Yeah, you should probably shut up now.

Really, then can you give me an in-depth review of the unfinished product with bullet points and a summary of the gameplay experience since you think it's soo good? I mean really does everybody have to argue over varying opinions?
Who cares if people don't like it! For the people who do like it good for you and keep on playing it...

Nante
06-23-2008, 12:49 AM
Did you try the game? Could you give me an in-depth review of the unfinished product with bullet points and a summary of the gameplay experience? Oh that's right, not only are you not a professional gaming journalist you've never even played the game, unfinished or not. You've only listened to the opinions of some upset kids on a forum, bashing games they don't like as much as their favorite. Yeah, you should probably shut up now.

did i talk about me trying the game? I clearly say go search on mmorpg.com koreans review of CB . and most of the time the game wont change that great from CB to OB and afterwards Gold though they do make additional content on CB but it will still be a game that i saw alot of time beside some features they have

ChickenDewd21
06-23-2008, 12:54 AM
Really, then can you give me an in-depth review of the unfinished product with bullet points and a summary of the gameplay experience since you think it's soo good? I mean really does everybody have to argue over varying opinions?
Who cares if people don't like it! For the people who do like it good for you and keep on playing it...

I don't think it is good, I think it may be good. There's a big difference between exchanging excited appreciation & criticisms than someone coming in spewing absolute bullshit lies about the game then hype another.

did i talk about me trying the game? I clearly say go search on mmorpg.com koreans review of CB . and most of the time the game wont change that great from CB to OB and afterwards Gold though they do make additional content on CB but it will still be a game that i saw alot of time beside some features they have

No but you did base your opinion on someone else's gameplay experience, which is clearly a bad thing to do. You have not tried the game at all, they are playing essentially an unfinished product so reviewing it now would make those decisions in the review moot, since it is not the experience in it's entirety. This thread has nothing to do with WAR, if you like that so much make a topic about that.

muhamed0li
06-23-2008, 01:51 AM
Im not sure it will last P2P if its a grinder.....

B2P mabye, depends if its a GRIND or QUEST BASED.

F2P + cash Shop , Definatly grind or no grind, since it would be good for a F2P since most F2Ps suck..... I have yet to find a good F2P mmorpg

But then again, my first Actual MMO i got into was WoW so i guess my standards are a bit high...

But w/e i might try it if it has some type of trial or something, but im definatly not gona Drool over trying to get into beta, ive been disapointed too many times before...

I.E.

Requiem: Bloodymare
Secret Online ( Thai version, though i only tried out combat, i didnt try out quests n stuff cuz i didnt understand a word...)
Mythos....(3d just dosent work for a Diablo Style Game, 2d isometric Ftw!)
Warrior Epic



yeah...many more but these are the most recent i have been disapointed in....


So if i hear some good reviews and it has some type of trial OR its F2P ill try it out.

But for you People that are looking for a WoW/other P2P Replacement i wouldnt get my hopes up on the F2P thing or even the Beta

No offense but i have yet to find a good Korean Game that has no or little Grind and keeps me into the game for more than 2 Weeks....

beshino
06-23-2008, 02:17 AM
I don't think it is good, I think it may be good. There's a big difference between exchanging excited appreciation & criticisms than someone coming in spewing absolute bullshit lies about the game then hype another.



No but you did base your opinion on someone else's gameplay experience, which is clearly a bad thing to do. You have not tried the game at all, they are playing essentially an unfinished product so reviewing it now would make those decisions in the review moot, since it is not the experience in it's entirety. This thread has nothing to do with WAR, if you like that so much make a topic about that.

Yeah... Well where do you get your opinion from saying it MAY be good?
Do you get it from peoples opinion, review, or a trailer?
If you do then you're doing the exact same thing you're flaming him about and if you don't then saying it's good means nothing because you haven't had a taste of the game at all.
I mean yeah saying it's bad right now is true even though it's an unfinished product you still have a general view about what the game will become.

Thetake
06-23-2008, 02:54 AM
Yeah its definitely not gonna be free. Anyways, heres some randome cool looking Aion gameplay vids.

Pretty slick looking air combat if I do say so myself.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hu2XedTxEcU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ggMRjnzGZRU

the12ofSpades
06-23-2008, 02:56 AM
they couldn't run this game on a F2P income.

Sio
06-23-2008, 04:59 AM
first, sorry my english not good me korean

i play 2 CBs of Aion, is not grindfest as you say.
aion is easy lvlup and nice teamplay like guildwar. all who say aion is grindfest have never clue. remember game is still no ready, ncsoft make sure we get nice game. they did awesome job helping us and fix bug

aion is no grind!

Ok, the opinion of a beta tester. Sounds good to me.
Any other beta tester out which like to comment about Aion?

BLUEmorning
06-23-2008, 05:07 AM
first, sorry my english not good me korean

i play 2 CBs of Aion, is not grindfest as you say.
aion is easy lvlup and nice teamplay like guildwar. all who say aion is grindfest have never clue. remember game is still no ready, ncsoft make sure we get nice game. they did awesome job helping us and fix bug

aion is no grind!

Oh an actual korean beta tester! And the thing about teamplay being like Guild Wars makes me want to play this even more.

BTW, I suggest everyone to just ignore ArcDevil's comments. It seems every post I've read from him is just garbled up trash, not worth reading really =\.

so we have to buy a car to judge it? we cant simply get a motor magazine were an experimented reviewer give us comparatives and opinions on the car?

i can pay attention to other's judgement,provided ppl bother to give facts and examples.
i tend to disregard reviews like "oh d00dz its lyk da best game in da worl", and also the opposite "buah,it just sucks". from time to time mature people bothers to write decent reviews

when you get a few of that decent reviews coming from many kind of players (PvPers, PvErs, hardcores, casuals),you can draw your own conclusions even tho you havent played the game.

from what i heard Aion will be an excellent game,if u like the Lineage type of games. Just like WAR will be a fantastic game if u like the DaoC type of games.different games and different gameplay.choose the one that fits you.
ppl should stop trying to fit their desires to what the game really is. otherwise they are bound to have a huge dissapointment,and it will be noone's fault but theirs.

Lol...???

Justin1221
06-23-2008, 05:15 AM
That looks cool.

seira
06-23-2008, 05:25 AM
Im really excited about this game. The only game that holds my attention right now is GW - but not as much as it used to since GW2 was announced.
(I even have my laptop hooked up to my olevia 747i lcd lol - amazing...I digress) I think both AION and GW2 will be great -both p2p? fine - bring it on.
The only hard thing is waiting - and not wasting my time and energy on all the PoS f2p MMOs out there while doing so. Ive been following as much coverage as possible and check aionsource frequently so Im not just living in speculation-land. I think AION will rock.

chris183
06-23-2008, 05:35 AM
i loved both lineage 2 and dark age of camelot, so if aion and warhammer are going to be similar to those two then i will be very happy

lineage2 is a sandbox open pvp group grinder

dark age of camelot is a pvp game (my favorite mmorpg game of all time)

both are great and i hope aion and warhammer are the same

the grind really isnt that bad in lineage at all anymore, after they added catacombs and necropolis

man some of you sound so spoiled like you just want instant everything so what if you have to spend a little time to level a guy

anyhow i think aion said it would have less grind then l2 along with more storyline and better quests and more interactive pve rather then just right click assist like on lineage

on my dagger on l2 as long as i had buffs all i did was turn on vicious stance and auto swing if i wasnt in pvp

Phoenixfencer
06-23-2008, 05:35 AM
It looks really nice but from the videos it showed people grinding on monsters and yes flying is cool but really how long will it be till the novalty ends. I can't see this game having anything special apart from its graphics and if im gonna pay for a game this year for graphics im gonna buy Guild Wars 2.

Yeah, this. It's got some crazy high requirements just to look pretty, but that's al the game really offers. Flying isn't exactly new anymore. Ever play Perfect World? Flyff? Ya fly around for a bit, say "whee" then go for more crazy grinding. It really doesn't offer anythin new or exciting gameplay wise. Honestly if it didn't have those good graphics there would be no reason for it to be p2p.

And despite what Jun might say about it not being a grind, it's grindy as hell. But, of course, grinding is in the eye of the MMOer. For a fair comparison play a game like Rappelz. It feels about that grindy.

hackedx
06-23-2008, 05:47 AM
lol this game is nothing like Lineage at all in terms of repetitiveness and grind. Its a great game but my computer could barely play it.

seira
06-23-2008, 06:32 AM
Yeah, this. It's got some crazy high requirements just to look pretty, but that's al the game really offers. Flying isn't exactly new anymore. Ever play Perfect World? Flyff? Ya fly around for a bit, say "whee" then go for more crazy grinding. It really doesn't offer anythin new or exciting gameplay wise. Honestly if it didn't have those good graphics there would be no reason for it to be p2p.

And despite what Jun might say about it not being a grind, it's grindy as hell. But, of course, grinding is in the eye of the MMOer. For a fair comparison play a game like Rappelz. It feels about that grindy.

So, youve played the game extensively and feel its quite the grind?
Im not saying you havent actually played the game, Im just confused about conflicting reports. Most people that played the game, say it itsnt very grindy at all. Yet you feel its grindy. Care to elaborate why?

leathel
06-23-2008, 10:49 AM
heres the review the guy is probably talking about

http://www.aionsource.com/articles/translations-2/aion-cbt-2-review-thisisgamecom-13/

funny thing is this guy praises the game alot....

I think Arcs just getting angry cause either his comp cant handle it or he cant play p2p games. :(

seira
06-23-2008, 05:45 PM
MMM...I feel like a COMPLETE dope because I go to that forum a lot and never read that lmao. I take it back - AION sounds like some poorly thought out pvp grinder with purty graphics. I do have one friend that got into the beta and he seemed to like it a lot so far. *jealous* But that review was awful - if I want strictly pvp theres countless f2p grinders out there bleh. *takes back praise and goes back waiting for gw2*

Reverie
06-23-2008, 09:42 PM
im not biased,and all the info i got came straight from closed beta testers in mmorpg.com

just go there and drop your questions in their forum.and dont cry when you get replied just what i said.

as far as im concerned,i dont care the smallest fuck about Aion,nor for the good nor for the bad, i will play WAR,and thats all i need.

edit: one way or the other, ppl got to be really idiot to believe that NCSoft and grind are not totally linked terms. for them,"softing" the grind, is making it 9 months instead of 14. thay have always failed to bring a western PoV on their games. they are the climax of "asian mega-grind" game developing.

so yeah,i laught at all of you believing Aion will have paces any similar to a western game like WoW AoC or WAR.

From what I saw in Closed Beta 2, the game is quest based.
The leveling pace versus grind seemed rather ok.
I'd even complain there's not enough grind and too much casual oriented.

GreatFatGnome
06-23-2008, 10:05 PM
game is p2p , quest based and uses wasd...

MMM...I feel like a COMPLETE dope because I go to that forum a lot and never read that lmao. I take it back - AION sounds like some poorly thought out pvp grinder with purty graphics. I do have one friend that got into the beta and he seemed to like it a lot so far. *jealous* But that review was awful - if I want strictly pvp theres countless f2p grinders out there bleh. *takes back praise and goes back waiting for gw2*

pvp is only in abyss.

pookwang
06-23-2008, 10:21 PM
looks great, might try download it someday, but for now busy playing neosteam i want to have a steam rider lol

Flv
06-26-2008, 03:25 PM
im not biased,and all the info i got came straight from closed beta testers in mmorpg.com

just go there and drop your questions in their forum.and dont cry when you get replied just what i said.

as far as im concerned,i dont care the smallest fuck about Aion,nor for the good nor for the bad, i will play WAR,and thats all i need.

edit: one way or the other, ppl got to be really idiot to believe that NCSoft and grind are not totally linked terms. for them,"softing" the grind, is making it 9 months instead of 14. thay have always failed to bring a western PoV on their games. they are the climax of "asian mega-grind" game developing.

so yeah,i laught at all of you believing Aion will have paces any similar to a western game like WoW AoC or WAR.

Yes, go ask in MMORPG.com forums, and see how you are called troll by every single member, I post there a lot, my nick there is Ephimero, and I'm one of the most active posters/informer in that forum, there are no Korean closed beta testers in MMORPG.com forums, all of the Western lucky beta testers post at aionsource though, and they all state that the grind is non existant, so good game. By the way, WAR's level cap estimate is 2 hardcore months, while Aion is 1. People reached level 34 out of 50 within 15 days, asking Irisviel, one of the testers, he said the rates during beta are not boosted. 34 was the maximum level in CBT2 and people had a limit on their gaming time of 10 hours per day, no 24/7 excuse here.


pvp is only in abyss.

not completely true, even tho most of the pvp happens there, there are also direct rifts which were tested during CBT2, giving you access to the oppossite race's lands.

Yeah, this. It's got some crazy high requirements just to look pretty, but that's al the game really offers. Flying isn't exactly new anymore. Ever play Perfect World? Flyff? Ya fly around for a bit, say "whee" then go for more crazy grinding. It really doesn't offer anythin new or exciting gameplay wise. Honestly if it didn't have those good graphics there would be no reason for it to be p2p.

And despite what Jun might say about it not being a grind, it's grindy as hell. But, of course, grinding is in the eye of the MMOer. For a fair comparison play a game like Rappelz. It feels about that grindy.

mind showing us a screenshot of your character? Oh wait, you can't.

Way to paste generic thoughts, add the first thing that comes to your mind when thinking about the game (hey, ill talk about flying and say it sucks cause i remember I saw wings in a screenshot 2 years ago, kekekeke) and then add "im in beta". You, sir, aren't.

MMM...I feel like a COMPLETE dope because I go to that forum a lot and never read that lmao. I take it back - AION sounds like some poorly thought out pvp grinder with purty graphics. I do have one friend that got into the beta and he seemed to like it a lot so far. *jealous* But that review was awful - if I want strictly pvp theres countless f2p grinders out there bleh. *takes back praise and goes back waiting for gw2*

The game has a lot of activities, however, beta testers during CBT2 complained about the lack of quests after level ~28ish, surprisingly enough, devs stated that 3 of the 4 areas for 25+ characters were missing during that beta, that's said in one of the Jameinkaiser's translations also. The game is RvR, so yeah, it's focused on pvp, but not on simple pvp. And tersters like the game a lot indeed.

did i talk about me trying the game? I clearly say go search on mmorpg.com koreans review of CB . and most of the time the game wont change that great from CB to OB and afterwards Gold though they do make additional content on CB but it will still be a game that i saw alot of time beside some features they have

Mind posting the links of those reviews? All I can find there is people excited over a non grindy game.

so we have to buy a car to judge it? we cant simply get a motor magazine were an experimented reviewer give us comparatives and opinions on the car?

Or you can get a free trial of the car, beta test the car during its open beta, or pay 15$ only to get the car for a month. Oh wait, you can't. If I had to spend 12000$ to try Aion I would also be checking magazines.

i can pay attention to other's judgement,provided ppl bother to give facts and examples.
i tend to disregard reviews like "oh d00dz its lyk da best game in da worl", and also the opposite "buah,it just sucks". from time to time mature people bothers to write decent reviews

There aren't reviews pointing at Aion negatively, there are things to fix (hello, its beta) but beta testers are loving it.


when you get a few of that decent reviews coming from many kind of players (PvPers, PvErs, hardcores, casuals),you can draw your own conclusions even tho you havent played the game.

You had your conclussions without reading those reviews, seems like you don't lead by example.

from what i heard Aion will be an excellent game,if u like the Lineage type of games. Just like WAR will be a fantastic game if u like the DaoC type of games.different games and different gameplay.choose the one that fits you.

WAR fanbois are on rampage hating on other games, look at AoC forums in MMORPG.com, filled with WAR fanbois posting about WAR in every single thread. There's no credibility in your words showing such a trolling attitude.

ppl should stop trying to fit their desires to what the game really is. otherwise they are bound to have a huge dissapointment,and it will be noone's fault but theirs.

indeed, you aren't leading by example. Again.

Own3d
06-26-2008, 03:37 PM
I predict this game will die from no subscribers then go f2p with cashshop.

Jurka
06-26-2008, 03:50 PM
im not biased,and all the info i got came straight from closed beta testers in mmorpg.com

just go there and drop your questions in their forum.and dont cry when you get replied just what i said.

as far as im concerned,i dont care the smallest fuck about Aion,nor for the good nor for the bad, i will play WAR,and thats all i need.

edit: one way or the other, ppl got to be really idiot to believe that NCSoft and grind are not totally linked terms. for them,"softing" the grind, is making it 9 months instead of 14. thay have always failed to bring a western PoV on their games. they are the climax of "asian mega-grind" game developing.

so yeah,i laught at all of you believing Aion will have paces any similar to a western game like WoW AoC or WAR.

well all i can say a bit of proof never hurts, could you at least drop in some review or something like that before you flame whit no mercy :eye:

well cant comment anything atm i have no idea how the game will be have to wait till its released and try it

nojohnso
06-26-2008, 04:13 PM
I predict this game will die from no subscribers then go f2p with cashshop.

I predict you're wrong. But if it does, I'm happy.