Played WoW loved the game but i have 2 70's... now im not really looking for a game just like WoW...

Basics i'm looking for in the MMO should be
-Good PvP!
-F2P(B2P maybe!!! depends on how good of a review u guys can give the game)
-(Don't recommend GW!! waiting for GW2---will i need GW1 to play GW2?? or will it be a totally new game basically??)
-Good established economy, like regular users who don't use cash shops can still produce some cash! :)
-Does not lack in classes.
-Shadowbane(is this game really F2P... i might try it just for the crazy PvP i've heard it has!! but idk any links??)..
-Does not lack in community.. aka people available to group with you!

Thanks a bunch ahead of time!! i know you guys are working hard thinking of games to suggest to me!! but i'd love to get games that are f2p!, a fun game in which u know there is a good economy and it's not a broken game on the economy side and you don't have any party'ing or anything! ..

a quick fact about ppl who left WoW, not sure how correct it is but here it is

1.30 (34%) are now playing Warhammer Online 2.16 (18%) are now playing Age of Conan 3.16 (18%) are still playing World of Warcraft 4.4 (4%) are now playing The Lord of the Rings Online 5.3 (3%) are now playing Guild Wars

Shadowbane is F2P. If you are going from WoW to shadowbane the lack of WASD and the old graphics might really get on your nerves, the PvP is far better though, I don't know how the community is anymore since I quit a while back and haven't tried again since the servers were reset. If you've never tried it before be prepared for the complete lack of newbie guide... You won't know what the hell is going on or where you should be leveling or what skills / stats you should get, you're first character will, almost definately, be a throw away learning character.

GW2 will not require GW1 at all to play, but there will be bonuses for people who PvE'd through the crappy GW PvE expansion thing (Seriously PvE is stupid). The bonuses are apparently cosmetic but if they are anything significant I won't be picking up GW2 because I hate it when some people get advantages over other who got bored of the game due to lack of proper updates and didn't want to grind through the stupid boring PvE with AI or a community built entirely of people wanting to do damage and who don't understand the word Kite.

Neosteam might be a decent recommendation too, if you want to PvP you can do it at pretty much anytime (the earliest I PvPed at was probably about level 7 when a guy from the other faction came into our newbie town) in rear land (Small map, good exp, both sides use it). The PvP is definately no where near balanced though (don't believe anyone who says it is). Two sides (Currently, there is apparently 3 in later builds), 4 races (wolfy, pom, human, elf) with different traits (and I think stat growth), 4 main classes (Rogue, fighter, craftor, mage) each class diverges into two seperate classes at level 10 and the skills vary between sides.

Here's my list for you:
Rohan Online
Neosteam
Planeshift

Ok.. I'm currently going to download shadowbane and try that.. i'm unsure if i should try neosteam!!!!! umm and Rohan online idk!!

REally what im looking for is some MMO that still has a community.. and to where i can actually get items and sell them to real people!!! hah.. i don't want to have an MMO where no one is there at all and u barely see anyone!!...

Soo be honest!! Shadowbane vs Neosteam vs Rohan... which one still has a good fan base and has alot of players!

Rohan is a generic grinder with a horrible PvP system. If you liked PvEing for weeks in WoW to get decent PvP gear you might like Rohan. I wouldn't suggest this game.

Shadowbane and Neosteam are definately different...

When I was playing Shadowbane the two things that turned me off were 1) Low player base 2) Asian guilds (You only get 1 hour a day to siege certain things, the Asian guilds had theirs set to stupid O'clock in the morning for me making it more than a chore if our guild wanted to take something of theirs). There has been a server reset since then so I don't know how it is now.

If I had to choose between the three I'd list them at:

1) Shadowbane (if the population is high enough and there isn't any 5am sieges)
2) Neosteam
3) Windows Hearts
4) Rohan
5) Self crotch-punching
6) Rappelz

Whats your opinion on the new RoW game..?? I used to be a fan of RYL1.. and ryl2 was kinda weird......but i've heard RoW is pretty much like a RYL1 remake... was wondering if the community in RoW is just as good as it was in RYL back in the daY!

Whats your opinion on the new RoW game..?? I used to be a fan of RYL1.. and ryl2 was kinda weird......but i've heard RoW is pretty much like a RYL1 remake... was wondering if the community in RoW is just as good as it was in RYL back in the daY!
hey, whats the complete name of RoW because, please use complete names instead of shortcuts so we can all google it^^

hey, whats the complete name of RoW because, please use complete names instead of shortcuts so we can all google it^^


Return of Warrior. It's a RYL (Risk Your Life) remake.
I got the site for ya.

http://www.returnofwarrior.com/

Rohan is a generic grinder with a horrible PvP system. If you liked PvEing for weeks in WoW to get decent PvP gear you might like Rohan. I wouldn't suggest this game.

Shadowbane and Neosteam are definately different...

When I was playing Shadowbane the two things that turned me off were 1) Low player base 2) Asian guilds (You only get 1 hour a day to siege certain things, the Asian guilds had theirs set to stupid O'clock in the morning for me making it more than a chore if our guild wanted to take something of theirs). There has been a server reset since then so I don't know how it is now.

If I had to choose between the three I'd list them at:

1) Shadowbane (if the population is high enough and there isn't any 5am sieges)
2) Neosteam
3) Windows Hearts
4) Rohan
5) Self crotch-punching
6) Rappelz

number 5 may be your best choice