I made this thread to go over things that most people ( after thinking about something) will come up with the conclusion that something just doesn't fit....it doesn't make sense...

I think everyone has thought about something society accepts so easily but they don't know why?



just add your comment on something you have thought about that doesn't make any sense.....



I will start...




why (by American law) can we have the responsibility to be able to give our lives away in war at age 18 but not be able to drink until age 21?

why (by American law) can we have the responsibility to be able to give our lives away in war at age 18 but not be able to drink until age 21?

yea ive always wondered that too. but that didnt keep anyone from drinking at 18 anyways atleast that i knew.

This song.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTqcpmbuE7Q

What does it truly mean? Please.

Guys with long hair getting looked down upon as unprofessional, and having to cut it for many jobs, while women can just tie it back.

Where's the fucking equality?
Gone forever, we are done with world views mechanical.

Guys with long hair getting looked down upon as unprofessional, and having to cut it for many jobs, while women can just tie it back.

Where's the fucking equality?
Gone forever, we are done with world views mechanical.

Well I got mine cut, I didn't get any ladies with long hair.

Guys with long hair getting looked down upon as unprofessional, and having to cut it for many jobs, while women can just tie it back.

Where's the fucking equality?
Gone forever, we are done with world views mechanical.

I know someone that's perfect for you, then. She's completely bald and has the shiniest scalp ever, even though she's not afflicted with cancer. She wears a wig, too. You should totally see her face when the wind picks up and her wig floats away.

"Why do teachers ask questions when they already know the answer?" lol. thats what a lot of lil kids ask.

for me though...why do girls always want equality but then end up saying "hey! im a girl, a gentlemen always lets a girl go first" or "im a girl, so of course u have to do all the heavy lifting"...no offence to anyone really, i was just curious.

I have always wondered why they called it a "hamburger" when the meat is from a cow.......

Why the fuck does megatron transform into a gun. i mean fuck it doesn't make sense.

I know someone that's perfect for you, then. She's completely bald and has the shiniest scalp ever, even though she's not afflicted with cancer. She wears a wig, too. You should totally see her face when the wind picks up and her wig floats away.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Guys with long hair getting looked down upon as unprofessional, and having to cut it for many jobs, while women can just tie it back.

Where's the fucking equality?
Gone forever, we are done with world views mechanical.

Or something like tomate work thing that I did xD You always have to remove 3leaves from the plants yet the females only had to do 1 leave cause of their lenght, I was a head smaller then them -_-"

Why the fuck does megatron transform into a gun. i mean fuck it doesn't make sense.

well if you had the toy it made a pretty cool gun since they used metal to make them back then.

OOH!
I got one.
:3

This is Chewbacca:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z169/aliascate/chewbacca.jpg

As you all know, Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk..

BUT LIVES ON THE PLANET ENDOR!

Now, THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

OOH!
I got one.
:3

This is Chewbacca:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z169/aliascate/chewbacca.jpg

As you all know, Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk..

BUT LIVES ON THE PLANET ENDOR!

Now, THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

Actually, many of the races from the Star Wars Universe do not reside in their natural habitats.

OOH!
I got one.
:3

This is Chewbacca:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z169/aliascate/chewbacca.jpg

As you all know, Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashykk..

BUT LIVES ON THE PLANET ENDOR!

Now, THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

Because he likes white women thats why >_> or white men i guess you never know D:

You can make sense out of the stuff you guys said just they are really stupid reasons, like why were not allowed to have llamas on a bus in certain states etc.

I have a deep one about religion, but I won't go there lol

one thing that doesn't make sense is um..why is there gravity.

Actually, many of the races from the Star Wars Universe do not reside in their natural habitats.

Damnit, Chuck Norris.
D:

Why the fuck does megatron transform into a gun. i mean fuck it doesn't make sense.

lol, and he cant even shoot by himself!!

Umm... Oh I got one.
It doesn't make sense that Micheal Jackson looks really ugly now when he was normal looking before.
http://www.multinet.no/~jonarne/Hjemmesia/Favorittartister/michael_jackson/michael_jackson_7.jpg
http://culturemp3.viabloga.com/images/Mugshot_michael_jackson.jpg

I got a better one:
Over here you can join the army at 17, but not go into the theaters to watch too gory movies (such as Starship troppers when it rolled out).

The reason is:
It's better that way and no one cares about your opinions of a perfect world, because if they put you in carge, you would fuck up within 5 hours, weep like a baby and beg to get your old live back.

That's right, don't complain, if you can not do it better, which you can't.
Letting people not join the army at 18 is a bullshit idea, for obvious reasons, I know about 20 and I am to lazy to put them down for ya, because you wouldn't get it if you hadn't seen it...
Letting younger people drink, is maybe not the problem, the problem would be the drive that is created as soon as you change the rules;
Everyone who wants the right to drink, wants it to abuse it, so the only ones the should be given it are those that don't care.

All makes perect sense.

Not to you? Tells me that you have a wrong sense of justice, that doesn't actually produce any just results, but just is about making the world easier to udnerstand for you, because you fail at getting that going right now.
Other than that it would be a fuck up...

When I was little, I never got the whole alarm going "off" thing, I always thought the term would be more rightfully placed as the alarm going "on". I later joined the rest of society in saying off, but until this day I believe the term should be replaced.

Why didn't Smurfette ever get raped?

why the fuck do they put "fat free" when theres less fat in it
why the fuck is "school" spelt with a sch instead of a sk
why the fuck is weed illegal when smoking does more damage
why the fuck did gandalf become "Gandalf the white" from being gandalf the grey instead of being gandalf the yellow or something from LOTR

I got a better one:
Over here you can join the army at 17, but not go into the theaters to watch too gory movies (such as Starship troppers when it rolled out).

The reason is:
It's better that way and no one cares about your opinions of a perfect world, because if they put you in carge, you would fuck up within 5 hours, weep like a baby and beg to get your old live back.

That's right, don't complain, if you can not do it better, which you can't.
Letting people not join the army at 18 is a bullshit idea, for obvious reasons, I know about 20 and I am to lazy to put them down for ya, because you wouldn't get it if you hadn't seen it...
Letting younger people drink, is maybe not the problem, the problem would be the drive that is created as soon as you change the rules;
Everyone who wants the right to drink, wants it to abuse it, so the only ones the should be given it are those that don't care.

All makes perect sense.

Not to you? Tells me that you have a wrong sense of justice, that doesn't actually produce any just results, but just is about making the world easier to udnerstand for you, because you fail at getting that going right now.
Other than that it would be a fuck up...

I'm sorry. You say a lot of sensible stuff at times, but that's just bullshit. The world is dynamic. Laws change all the time, because they stop making sense/being practical. I don't see any "drive" making society at large go mad by laws being changed.
Society, cultures, humans and pretty much everything related to that change themselves and develope with the times.

Often that is due to realizing that shit just isn't practical or doesn't make sense. Why do you think christianity is so secular today? Why do you think we have sepparation of church and state?

People thinking about what is wrong and how it can be done better, then bitching about it is the first step towards change.

People who mindlessly accept things as they are right now by simply not thinking about such things or saying "well, smarter people than me probably made it like this, so who am I to disagree" are much worse than those who actually think about their life situation.
Firstly, the people who made our nations, our laws, weren't nessecarily so much smarter than everyone else. That's bullshit. They too were human, and as so, also prone to doing all too human mistakes. Not only that, they made their stuff in their time, and we live in our time. Sometimes shit just ain't compatible.

Besides most countries don't demand that their leaders have a certain amount of IQ or a specific set of skills or a certain type of education. If that had been the case, then yeah, I would agree with you.
But I'm not taking a politician on face-value alone, unless he actually knows something of substance(I.E not second-hand info given to them before arguments etc.) about the topic at hand. That being the case, one should never assume that something cannot be improved.

Ok here is one:
In Norway, we follow the human rights, and our law states that we have our individual freedom.
So, we have freedom over our own lives in other words. However, suicide is illegal and punishable by fine or prison.

why (by American law) can we have the responsibility to be able to give our lives away in war at age 18 but not be able to drink until age 21?

Actually...its only a standard law because the gov't refused to give states funding if they didn't raise the age. I think it is ridiculous too...I believe it is because kids are still in school at 18, and they don't want them drinking for that.

Especially when you are in the military...I think you should get a voucher or something. (If kids want to join the military just so they can party a little earlier...hell, thats their loss)

Everyone knows the most obvious thing I'm going to say that doesn't make sense. I'm just going to skip over it, because it will just result in thread derailment, and probably some hurt feelings - like always.

Edit: Beanpaste already said it lol.

I've got one: Why is there no death penalty for rape? (I don't mean rape at like a party or something [while that CAN be just as scarring, its not physically what I mean.]...I mean those sick mother fuckers with rape dungeons. That shit is worse than homicide IMO. Homicide is an act of passion most of the time. Rape dungeons are just fucking horrible.

Maciacelly wrote about 3 important issues that sum up "the prince" for me (to give this a more complete look):

# You can kill a mans father and he will forgive you but take his money and his ocupation for earning his live, you will have won an enemy till his death.

# Never side with a stronger competitor to diminish one of your enemys, because he has no interest in aiding you as long he can dominate you and will always only suspend to do so until you have weakened yourself in a less important conflict.

# You can always take over a country and make it part of your land, collect the tax and establish a civil and military ruling, but as soon as you go and change their laws, they will revolt.

The change in the church is an excelent example:
In the earliest community, it was thought to be unclean to deal with money in any way or even posess it.
This first concept ended with somethine along the lines of "and than they got hungry".
Next to come is internal slaughter, the rise and fall fall of th middleages eurpean jews, the cursade, the murder of diffrent heretic groups, all about not as much as symbolism, money, but laws.

Any community is soley in what it's members agree on, simply put it's rules and laws. If you weaken them, you weaken the link between people and it falls apart into various individuals.
What do they do? communicate their laws and rules or if you like ideals to others, to create a new group. Such as for example the extremists in the middle east and bordering nations; They where formed, because the old structures where destroyed.

I am not saing all you brought up was wrong, I am just saying, that you probably missed what i intended to say.

People think to be smarter than history and tradition; that's quite pompous.

I am not against a humble change, as a way of a growth, but people who advocate a total overthrow for reasons that they themself can't name, or only they agree on, is a disaster-street to follow.

Because politicans talk dumb crap for a porofession as the first rule of marketing is "assume the most idioic customer", the problem I see, is that people who ever try to break that customer-creator relation will face a world, they have never seen before;
All they have been told about the world was obviousely suited for dumb nuts.

The OP was such a person:
Bringing on tailorcrafted dumb-nut concepts, that he was thought, because they are suited best for th purpose of making him a tool.
Now he is taking that up and using it like it's the true face of the world.
Pretty sad, in the usuall places harmless and at times really dangerous;
Such as in the Us: Just watch the US-Iranian relations. They are still not able to recover from what "hit" them out of the blue the first time with the friendly asisstance crap, but what is going for them now is pure populism and people finally dumb enough to follow anywhere.
The "old" and "traditional" truly conservative concept would be peace and leaving other decent people alone; What do you opt for?

Maciacelly wrote about 3 important issues that sum up "the prince" for me (to give this a more complete look):

# You can kill a mans father and he will forgive you but take his money and his ocupation for earning his live, you will have won an enemy till his death.

# Never side with a stronger competitor to diminish one of your enemys, because he has no interest in aiding you as long he can dominate you and will always only suspend to do so until you have weakened yourself in a less important conflict.

# You can always take over a country and make it part of your land, collect the tax and establish a civil and military ruling, but as soon as you go and change their laws, they will revolt.

Nothing personal, I just detest referances to books really, because I don't feel they give weight to arguments unless the author of the book itself did proper research. Philosophical books least of all.

Actually, I don't agree with any of those points and experience has tought me otherwise. Experiences has also tought me, that in the end, it's always context over dogma, which is why static stamements such as these are useless on a larger scale as all those statements are highly assumptious and biased.

The change in the church is an excelent example:
In the earliest community, it was thought to be unclean to deal with money in any way or even posess it.
This first concept ended with somethine along the lines of "and than they got hungry".
Next to come is internal slaughter, the rise and fall fall of th middleages eurpean jews, the cursade, the murder of diffrent heretic groups, all about not as much as symbolism, money, but laws.

Any community is soley in what it's members agree on, simply put it's rules and laws. If you weaken them, you weaken the link between people and it falls apart into various individuals.
What do they do? communicate their laws and rules or if you like ideals to others, to create a new group. Such as for example the extremists in the middle east and bordering nations; They where formed, because the old structures where destroyed.

Unfounded claim right there. What is your reasoning behind this claim? Weakening laws and rules weakens the link between humans? How? This completely depends on the nature of the laws in question. And furthermore, is a weakening of a link a bad or a good thing? Experience shows that humans will always be divided in one way or another. We will always disagree on things. It's better that we disagree and work on a problem, than have everyone agree on something that might not actually be in our best interest to begin with.

When people start arguing about how things should be done, then yeah, they divide. But there is nothin definate about this and in some cases the division is there long before the actual argument takes place. The rise and fall in the rhythms of reality seem to be unstoppable. You say extremist are the result of the old ways crumbling? Well, the "old way" were a result of "older ways" crumbling. Trying to prevent that from happing is working against development.

I am not saing all you brought up was wrong, I am just saying, that you probably missed what i intended to say.

People think to be smarter than history and tradition; that's quite pompous..

Maybe I did, and if that is so I stand corrected.

Why is it pompous? It's only pompous if it happens to be incorrect. One of the most common logical fallacies is the "tradition fallacy", thinking that something is true or correct because "that's the way it's always been done".
Humans are stupid. If todays humans are pompous for thinking they are above tradition, then yesterdays humans were pumpous because they thought they had found a definate answer to something, and thus made it a tradition in the first place.

The only logical thing to do, is to look at the world with fresh eyes, not taking anything for granted, challenging everything, and thus develope. Taking something for granted, and thinking you have achieved all there is, is paramount to stagnation.

I am not against a humble change, as a way of a growth, but people who advocate a total overthrow for reasons that they themself can't name, or only they agree on, is a disaster-street to follow.

I doubt anyone here is advocating total overthrow. It's just a thread about listing those things that don't make sense according to conventional logic, but still holds sway in society. You know, funny little oddities?

Because politicans talk dumb crap for a porofession as the first rule of marketing is "assume the most idioic customer", the problem I see, is that people who ever try to break that customer-creator relation will face a world, they have never seen before;
All they have been told about the world was obviousely suited for dumb nuts.

The OP was such a person:
Bringing on tailorcrafted dumb-nut concepts, that he was thought, because they are suited best for th purpose of making him a tool.
Now he is taking that up and using it like it's the true face of the world.
Pretty sad, in the usuall places harmless and at times really dangerous;
Such as in the Us: Just watch the US-Iranian relations. They are still not able to recover from what "hit" them out of the blue the first time with the friendly asisstance crap, but what is going for them now is pure populism and people finally dumb enough to follow anywhere.
The "old" and "traditional" truly conservative concept would be peace and leaving other decent people alone; What do you opt for?

Oh, so you're saying that all the stupid stuff in the world and the nonsense is there by design in most cases? I have a little trouble reading this paragraph. Sorry.

Well, in certain cases, I do believe that to be true. Creating illusions is a good way to control and manipulate the public. However, I very much doubt that a 200£ fine for touching a electric wire with 100% lethality rate is there by design. The fact that there is retardness on this level, even on a small scale, indicates a strong possibility for error on larger scales as well.

The "old" and "traditional" stands for peace etc.? Which "old" and which "traditional" would that be? In human history, the majority of it is written in blood, not peace. No matter which tradition or old way you choose to look at, you will find shit among the flowers.

IMO, the best tradition, is a tradition for not making tradition. Following the way of not following a way. Always looking at context, and ruling each new situation as a new situation.

Anything less than this, is a surrender of the intellect and a unwillingness to apply your intelligence to improve conditions because you aren't willing to look critically at your surroundings in the first place.

Why does the MTA go on strike when they suck at their jobs?

Why do we die?

Why do we die?

That's the way the cookie crumbles.

Why must minors pay sales tax when we cannot vote? Taxation without representation much? I CALL FOR REVOLUTION!!!!

Also, why is it called 'The National Spelling Bee' when a foreigner wins every year?

Also, How come it's called 'Grilled Cheese' when in actuallity you don't grill anything? You Toast the bread and melt the cheese... So it should be called a Cooked Bread with cheese.

Also, how come when you go to McDonald's, it's called a 'Double Cheeseburger' when in actuallity, it's a normal size patty cut in half. Shouldn't that be a Cheeseburger with 2 patties each made with half the meat of a regular.

You know what doesnt make sense?
Why did u make this thread? :O
nah jk
umm
Why is the pink ranger ALWAYS a girl? :O
sexists
they think guys dont like pink?
lol
they should put some homo as the pink ranger next time :P

Why do people become completely unreasonable when their beliefs are in question?

Why do people have double standards when their beliefs are in question?

Example :

1-EVERYTHING have a creator.
2- God created himself/always there.


Human, considering the msot intelligent being on this planet, behave as stupid as animal in so many way?
1- Smoking is bad, it kills. Yet so many smokes.
2- Violence is bad, do not fight...use words... Look at Bush having fun waging war about anywhere with Oil.
3- Do not touch, it burns. *touch*


Why are we curious?

1- Beware! Cookies inside. *I wonder what's in it...*

We aren't always the most intelligent, simply the most developed. We lack an inner sense of tranquility with those around us for we are all driven by instinct to be #1 and will kill, lie and steal if necessary to get there.

Yes most know smoking is bad, but it is an addiction and doesn't mean you're stupid just because you do it.

Curiosity is again in our nature, we want to explore and learn about everything there is. we have a need to verify what we know and to investigate things we might know or discover things we don't. We are on an endless pursuit of knowledge and that's not something to be looked down upon


My own things that don't make sense -

Why do we feel the need for escapism rather than confronting your problems and fixing them?

Why do we study the past for answers to our future? will that not create an endless cycle of mistakes?

Why is it called cargo on a ship, and shipment in a car?

Why are the prices of items we need to live(food) cheaper than items we don't need to live(computers)?

Why are the prices of items we need to live(food) cheaper than items we don't need to live(computers)?

Easy, supply and demand.

Should we somehow find ourselves in an apocalyptic zombie endgame world, then I'm sure the demand of food would rise, and food would become more expensive than bling.

Because he likes white women thats why >_> or white men i guess you never know D:

You can make sense out of the stuff you guys said just they are really stupid reasons, like why were not allowed to have llamas on a bus in certain states etc.

I have a deep one about religion, but I won't go there lol

one thing that doesn't make sense is um..why is there gravity.

can you PM me the religion one, made me intrigued. lol

what makes girls naturally slower at running. guy running a 16 min 3 mile is amazing, while a girl breaking 20 mins is amazing...

can you PM me the religion one, made me intrigued. lol

what makes girls naturally slower at running. guy running a 16 min 3 mile is amazing, while a girl breaking 20 mins is amazing...

What makes me faster than a fat white kid?

Muscles, bitch.

Why do we die?

cuz you make energy

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

You don't like it when a girl can look professional with long hair, right? How about you meet a girl that has no hair. :-/

What makes me faster than a fat white kid?

Muscles, bitch.

white? why did you have the need to include white?


well, ive been running for 1 year now, the top girl on our XC has beening running since 6th grade(now senior), 7 years, and yet i still run 2 mins faster on average in my 3 mile than she does. she should have better running muscles built from running than i would.. as from 6th to 10th grade i sat on a computer all day, when i wasnt doing my 1 hour of soccer every other day.

and one girl ive met that beat me was skinny, and i could easily lift mroe than her, and have much more muscle than her..(one girl out of hundreds)

still doesnt make sense.

Also what is Reputation on Onrpg..

I can run faster than my running partner, but she has more endurance and isn't that far behind in pace. During our regular 5 mile runs I can keep an average pace of about around 8:15 a mile and she is just a hair behind that. My 2 mile time is about 13:53 and hers is 14:11.

*edit* I should probly note that I mostly work on sprints and she, endurance running.

I can run faster than my running partner, but she has more endurance and isn't that far behind in pace. During our regular 5 mile runs I can keep an average pace of about around 8:15 a mile and she is just a hair behind that. My 2 mile time is about 13:53 and hers is 14:11.

*edit* I should probly note that I mostly work on sprints and she, endurance running.

what kind of sprints?

well, i dunno, whenever i look at averages for men and women with running, women always have a slower time on average.

like example( not real times)

male 17 years old 2 mile = 12 mins
female 17 years old 2 mile = 13:30

it would look like that, never the same...

Why in case a bomb attacks do you fucking hide under a table?

how come when someone says "i love you" , the response is "i love you too" , when the second person says it , it makes it seem as if they are talking about something named "you" . XD

Why does doctors, teachers, firefighters make less money than Paris Hilton, 50 Cents, Britney Spears? what the fuck is going on

Why does doctors, teachers, firefighters make less money than Paris Hilton, 50 Cents, Britney Spears? what the fuck is going on

Because doctors, teachers, and firefighters don't get paid in royalties and record sales. They don't own hotel chains, and they don't own the rights to Glacéau to sell off to Coca Cola for a quick buck.

Because doctors, teachers, and firefighters don't get paid in royalties and record sales. They don't own hotel chains, and they don't own the rights to Glacéau to sell off to Coca Cola for a quick buck.

Do you think they earned the money to purchase the hotels or companies?

Well, bsides, that I thought, if you didn't know that one which is a shame, even with it's controversial history, people should know the one book, which is by many credited as the begining work of modern politics;
Maciavelli was the first to make it an empirical science, and even if the word politics was there before, he gave it the modern shape it has.

As for the details, go check wikipedia, or something, becuase I don't want to give you to much of a one-sided interpretation; he is as much a philosopher as Lyndon Johnson was.

As long as you are not a presidential advisor or foreighn minister of at least any smaller country, I can no't say, I'd value your expertise higher than that.

I will just pick up one thing:
"In human history, the majority of it is written in blood, not peace."

It is extrmely interesting;
1st ahead: Marx said something along the lines of, "The only way to change an opressive system, is by violent revolution." If we take the opressive out, because I think than it still aplies, we got the message, that without violence no system ever changes.
What we have as a result is a history of violent overthrowing, not a history of violent upholding establishments.
The following establishments usually did soon take up the aperance of the former one; a violent change that leads to no lasting results.

Now I think I have sent enough ahead to make my point more precise or better understandable once again:

1st: That our history is thought as a history of wars is a shame, we should learn to see through those changes that led to no diffrences and study peace over war, as that imbalance in importance is artificial.

2nd: People who demand change are usually not those actually in the position of responsibility; their ability to place themself in their shoes is limited to filling the gaps in experiance with fairy-tales.
That is what I meant with them being pompous;
It is not very humble to assume being able to do a better job than those people or having a better understanding than those principals who are carefully selected out of the few which are worthy, by having proven themself in a hard competition, just out of the gutfeeling any kind of news-headline gives you. It is also very unreasonable.

Conventional logic is always limited to the person who aplies it. That limit is in times a steep one. Still there is no safety net for BS ideas, that tell us when we are grossly overestimating our own significance, our ability to see the whole picture and how far of from any sense of jsutice not the common understandigs and traditions are, but those ideas some kid came up when playing with himself in the backyard.

The kid is 12 and the tradition he doesn't like, might as well be of the age of 3000 years.
That he still thinks he is smarter, does just show how far of he is;
As long as you don't find at least a partial understanding of
~why the tradition was significant in it's historical shaping and development
~why the tradition is still significant (as in justify able in it's contextual environement) today
all you do is letting your mind take a shortcut, because of your inablities;
You never came to any kind of conclusion, but you convince your idiotic brain easily, to skip that step and go ahead fighting for a personal benefit.

If that clears up anything, ill be surprised, but I will post it non the less...

Just to back me up with an example:
"Why in case a bomb attacks do you fucking hide under a table?"
No offence, but I bet you have no experiance at all with real life expolsives detonating.

As i jsut re-read the other post:
People are usually to certain to be able to improve anything; most sequels are shit, rofl.

(may only apply to my school...) Why did I get suspended for defending myself along with the person who initiated the "first strike" during school?



what kind of sprints?

30/60s etc (i.e. Sprint as fast as you can for 30 seconds/walk for 60 seconds). When I first started college I'd been out of shape for a while, and I was going to try out for the soccer team, sprinting helped vastly more than distance running and made me quicker on the field. Sprinting (vs. Running) is beastly for quickly gaining muscle and getting into shape as is most high intensity interval training.

You don't like it when a girl can look professional with long hair, right? How about you meet a girl that has no hair. :-/
I never said that. I said I don't like that GUYS CAN'T look professional with long hair.

Me and my friend was playing brawl, and he stopped moving on my side, and I stoppd moving on his, ad we had two alternate wins, he wn on his, I won on mine, question. How did this happen? o o

Why does photoshop cost so much, yet they give it to students for free?

Why am I not permabanned?

why do you get locked up if you stop a burglar who is clearly on your domain, and should not be there in anyway, with voilence (punching him, etc)?

sure let him just rob the fucking place and rape your wife and daughter along the way, since anything you do to prevent this all, only bings you to jail.

^

anyways, Welcome to belgium and start raping and robbing.

wich makes me wonder why our goddamned idiotic politicians arent replaced when all they do is make things worse and why we even need a king when he has no power over the country anymore...

Guys with long hair getting looked down upon as unprofessional, and having to cut it for many jobs, while women can just tie it back.

It's so they can be sure of who they are sexually harassing from behind.

Swear words don't make sense to me and why there bad hmmmmmmm

Why does photoshop cost so much, yet they give it to students for free?

Why am I not permabanned?

Who gives photoshop to students for free? Unless you mean using it in school, well, that comes from tax dollars.

I am quite unsure why you aren't permabanned, after being banned so much. You asshole, you! :)

white? why did you have the need to include white?


well, ive been running for 1 year now, the top girl on our XC has beening running since 6th grade(now senior), 7 years, and yet i still run 2 mins faster on average in my 3 mile than she does. she should have better running muscles built from running than i would.. as from 6th to 10th grade i sat on a computer all day, when i wasnt doing my 1 hour of soccer every other day.

and one girl ive met that beat me was skinny, and i could easily lift mroe than her, and have much more muscle than her..(one girl out of hundreds)

still doesnt make sense.

Also what is Reputation on Onrpg..

Hahaha sorry, I guess I shouldn't have done that.

Why is weed illegal?

Why is weed illegal?
hopefully it wont be for long ... everyone likes to get :drool:

Well, bsides, that I thought, if you didn't know that one which is a shame, even with it's controversial history, people should know the one book, which is by many credited as the begining work of modern politics;
Maciavelli was the first to make it an empirical science, and even if the word politics was there before, he gave it the modern shape it has.

As for the details, go check wikipedia, or something, becuase I don't want to give you to much of a one-sided interpretation; he is as much a philosopher as Lyndon Johnson was.

I am familiar with Machiavelli and his works. But he was a philosopher, and his works were based on his opinion, and his experience. His position within politics gives his theories and treaties more weight, but by no means are they perfect, which goes without saying no matter what person throughout history we are talking about. I still value a persons ability to argue and to think without refering to earlier works by other people, as that is somewhat irrelevant in terms of validity of claims. People agreeing with one, does not make one right, or what one is saying logical.

As long as you are not a presidential advisor or foreighn minister of at least any smaller country, I can no't say, I'd value your expertise higher than that.

Of course not. But you have to remember that the people who have made todays theories and systems were humans just like you. To think that what one human have achieved is outside the scope of other humans is both limiting and arrogant. Just because one person isn't part of taking charge of a country doesn't mean that he couldn't do a good job at it, or has valuable ideas to contribute with.

I will just pick up one thing:
"In human history, the majority of it is written in blood, not peace."

It is extrmely interesting;
1st ahead: Marx said something along the lines of, "The only way to change an opressive system, is by violent revolution." If we take the opressive out, because I think than it still aplies, we got the message, that without violence no system ever changes.
What we have as a result is a history of violent overthrowing, not a history of violent upholding establishments.
The following establishments usually did soon take up the aperance of the former one; a violent change that leads to no lasting results..

You won't find me disagreeing. I only made the point to point out humans seemingly violent disposition. Looking at experience, no matter how much one wants to believe that humans are essentially good, it is more logical to assume that violence and conflict is a large part of human nature and as such unavoidable to a certain extent.

I also brought it up because you were talking of old way and traditions as a good thing and that changing too fast was bad. I was pointing out that the old ways were just as, if not more, violent and contained less rationalized thought. Change itself isn't bad or good. It's just change. But if the ways of the present are found wanting, then change is essential if we want things to improve. Sometimes change will bring better times, sometimes worse, but if the present itself is lacking, then not changing is simply a meek acceptance of what is wrong as inevitable, which I find stale and a bit stupid. Most people seem to find that wrong as well, which is why people complain. If nobody complained in the first place, nothing would be done.

Now I think I have sent enough ahead to make my point more precise or better understandable once again:

1st: That our history is thought as a history of wars is a shame, we should learn to see through those changes that led to no diffrences and study peace over war, as that imbalance in importance is artificial.

That our history is a history of war cannot give a value to the term "change".
The fact remains that, even though change has lead to conflict, it has also lead to great things as well. That cannot be ignored. Wthout change, we wouldn't be where we are today in the first place.
Rejecting change by ignoring obvious faults in society itself is no better than society changing for the worse. If change is constant, there is always the chance that things might improves. If everything was static, then it is certain that things would never improve.

It goes without saying though, that peacefull changes are better than violent changes.

2nd: People who demand change are usually not those actually in the position of responsibility; their ability to place themself in their shoes is limited to filling the gaps in experiance with fairy-tales.
That is what I meant with them being pompous;
It is not very humble to assume being able to do a better job than those people or having a better understanding than those principals who are carefully selected out of the few which are worthy, by having proven themself in a hard competition, just out of the gutfeeling any kind of news-headline gives you. It is also very unreasonable.

If your claim was flawless in the sense that those in power truly were carefully selected and outstanding individuals I would agree. This is not always the case and often it is not.

These people are deemed "worthy" by the fact that they have been voted in by a majority. The back ground of the voters, and the background of the candidates not taken into account. As of today, there is no such thing as an "elitist" democracy, so anyone who wants can try.

It's just as pompous of a government official to believe that he is somehow special and his opinions more right only by the argument that he is elected by others, because it does not say anything substansial about his intellect or ability to rule. If amount of votes was an indication of skill and intellect then every single democratic leader out there would be the one best suited for the job.

A good example is the choosing of American ambassadors. I won't go into detail, but you should look it up and compare it to for example Norwegian ambassadors. It's really quite awfull.

Conventional logic is always limited to the person who aplies it. That limit is in times a steep one. Still there is no safety net for BS ideas, that tell us when we are grossly overestimating our own significance, our ability to see the whole picture and how far of from any sense of jsutice not the common understandigs and traditions are, but those ideas some kid came up when playing with himself in the backyard.

Conventional logic's only limit is the intellect of the person in question. Logic itself follows rules. If the train of thought or argument has no logical fallacies it can be deemed logical, no matter how limited the knowledge of said individual. If a person commits a logical fallacy it is not the fault of reasoning, it is the fault of the indivual for not taking everything into account.
Naturally, not being able to see the entire picture will limit your sphere of argumentative power, but as long as the principles for the argument remains true, there can be no undermining of arguments that bear hold logically.

As long as the argument brought forth when making a critical observation has hold and is logical, should it be undermined because it's made by a person who isn't directly related to the source of the issue or to the people with the power to make a change? As I said, it starts with a complaint. The people complaining might not be politicans at this moment, but it might be that they will be one day. The people who are inspired to take such a path, are usually so because they have heard and seen the complaint amongst the general public.


The kid is 12 and the tradition he doesn't like, might as well be of the age of 3000 years.
That he still thinks he is smarter, does just show how far of he is;
As long as you don't find at least a partial understanding of
~why the tradition was significant in it's historical shaping and development
~why the tradition is still significant (as in justify able in it's contextual environement) today
all you do is letting your mind take a shortcut, because of your inablities;
You never came to any kind of conclusion, but you convince your idiotic brain easily, to skip that step and go ahead fighting for a personal benefit.

I agree with your example, because most 12 year olds do not have the intellectual development to make an argument with hold on subjects like that.
But a 3000 years old tradition isn't above scrutiny. Because it is 3000 years old it might even be more important to look into it's validity since 3000 years ago, they we're far away from the informative soicety we live in now and the world at large has changed since then, hence increasing the chances of that tradition to be both outdated and destructive in terms of our present psychosocial environment.

This brings me back to the "violent human nature". A lot of our traditions have been kept maintained through violence and the threat of violence. Many of them have stood above scrutiny because of this, and because of dogma buildt around it to protect it and it's obvious logical flaws(religion for example).

The last part of your argument is moot because it's a huge assumption on the general humans priorities. Of course, a 17 year old complaining about the price and age-limit on alcohol would often fit into your observation, but as for people who make a critical observation on the use of death-penalty or right to abortion, I would say that personal benefit isn't always the first thing on peoples mind.

If that clears up anything, ill be surprised, but I will post it non the less...

Just to back me up with an example:
"Why in case a bomb attacks do you fucking hide under a table?"
No offence, but I bet you have no experiance at all with real life expolsives detonating.

As i jsut re-read the other post:
People are usually to certain to be able to improve anything; most sequels are shit, rofl.

Hehe, good one. But on the other hand, it was probably not meant very seriously.

BTW, good discussing with you! Not often you get to talk to someone who knows what he is on about, and can keep it calm as well!
Despite, your intial criticism of the thread, I feel it has been one of the more contructive discussions I've had in a while.

holy shit, that above post made no sense...
nah JK tl;dr

nah JK tl;dr

I got warned for saying that.

Stupidest warning ever, it didn't make sense.

I have nothing to add, for now, besides that I did not mean "responsibility" in a strictly political context, much more in relation to private enterprises.

I also see the motivation for death penalty as a part of a judicary system based on puishment and revenge, which is nothing but selfish motivations, that openly acept harming others, for a personal gain.

I doubt someone else will pick this up.

As a last disclaimar i am not against all forms of change, just ticked of by how people take what we have for granted and do not care if they risk others wellbeing by an idea that is as unimportant and lasting as a glimpse.

"Things that make no sense" includes a claim of genral aplyance, that I find shocking, that's all.
People are not only quick with their judgement, they are also quick with destroying everything in the way of their opinions, much quicker than they are with anything else;
At times i find myself putting together the answers to posts that i haven't even read, if you understand; It's hard to do things the right way and take a break and also acept, that it might not be easy to deal with a problem and never as easy as to just tear anything apart.

I know someone that's perfect for you, then. She's completely bald and has the shiniest scalp ever, even though she's not afflicted with cancer. She wears a wig, too. You should totally see her face when the wind picks up and her wig floats away.

I knew a girl like that, and she didn't wear a wig. Having no eyebrows as well, makes the wig kinda pointless...

I never said that. I said I don't like that GUYS CAN'T look professional with long hair.

Oh. Then excuse that.

My eyes are failing me in old age. D:

Do you think they earned the money to purchase the hotels or companies?

Britney and 50 Cent got lucky. As a result, they got rich. 50Cent brought his hand in the Health business and started with Glaceau, which he sold to Coca Cola for (I believe) $4 billion. The Hilton's Hotel chain, from what I know, started up in the early 1900s with the purchase of a small Texan hotel. I'm not sure how the founder got the money to buy it.

People who like the song I Kissed a Girl by Katy Perry.

You can sit there and explain it to me from now until...oooh *Checks watch*...the end of time, and I'll say "Don't fucking get it, man.".

"Why do teachers ask questions when they already know the answer?" lol. thats what a lot of lil kids ask.

for me though...why do girls always want equality but then end up saying "hey! im a girl, a gentlemen always lets a girl go first" or "im a girl, so of course u have to do all the heavy lifting"...no offence to anyone really, i was just curious.

I call women like that bitches if a 125 pound weakling like me can lift heavy shit why can't they? Some women make me wanna slap the shit out of them.

Why is it ok for two "hot chicks" to have sex but if it's two dudes it's gross? Why even care if you are not involved?

Why is it ok for two "hot chicks" to have sex but if it's two dudes it's gross? Why even care if you are not involved?

If you're going to end up in a situation that forces you to watch either or, would you rather watch Hairy Mcassenstein and Bubble Dick III screw, or would you rather watch the two "hot chicks" from the nude beach down the street have a go at each other?

Personally, I'd take the latter.

Hmm, things that don't make sense... Oh! I've got one!

Rap - Music.

No seriously, that doesn't make any sense to me.

In all seriousness, the whole 9/11 thing doesn't make any sense to me... If you don't know what I'm talking about look it up on youtube, then be ready to have your mind blown.

If you're going to end up in a situation that forces you to watch either or, would you rather watch Hairy Mcassenstein and Bubble Dick III screw, or would you rather watch the two "hot chicks" from the nude beach down the street have a go at each other?

Personally, I'd take the latter.
The two guys being that I'm straight two girls would do nothing for me.

The two guys being that I'm straight two girls would do nothing for me.

Now, apply that same logic as if you were a guy.

The two guys being that I'm straight two girls would do nothing for me.

Wrong answer. Even if you are a girl, that now makes you "Straight, but questionable".

Now, apply that same logic as if you were a guy.

IMO straight guys are bothered too much by gay guys. I understand choosing the two girls. But why be bothered by gay guys if they aren't bothering you?

Wrong answer. Even if you are a girl, that now makes you "Straight, but questionable".

How so I have nothing against lesbians. I've worked with lesbians I hung out with lesbians during high school and it never made me feel uncomfortable. I don't care to see two guys either it's not my thing. Honestly if I'm not haveing sex why would I wanna watch someone else having it?

IMO straight guys are bothered too much by gay guys. I understand choosing the two girls. But why be bothered by gay guys if they aren't bothering you?

are you a guy? cuz gay guys sound really annoying and are really b*itchy.(am i doing the ***'s right?)
I also heard that some guys 'pretend' to be gay to get close to girls and they touch them. O_o

OnTOPIC: why do you pronounce 'go' as 'g-O' while 'do' as 'd-oo'?

are you a guy? cuz gay guys sound really annoying and are really b*itchy.(am i doing the ***'s right?)
I also heard that some guys 'pretend' to be gay to get close to girls and they touch them. O_o

Nice generalization, but yeah. For the most part, I find it annoying when a man doesn't act like what they are: a man.

And that trick doesn't work very well anymore.


OnTOPIC: why do you pronounce 'go' as 'g-O' while 'do' as 'd-oo'?

One of the many exceptions of the English language.

are you a guy? cuz gay guys sound really annoying and are really b*itchy.(am i doing the ***'s right?)
I also heard that some guys 'pretend' to be gay to get close to girls and they touch them. O_o

OnTOPIC: why do you pronounce 'go' as 'g-O' while 'do' as 'd-oo'?

I'm a Woman am I gonna have to put this in my sig? It's times like this I wish I could reach through the screen and bitch slap people.

Why the fuck there's this hill in Michigan where you put the car in neutral at the bottom of the hill and it goes up.

It freaks me out. I simply don't comprehend how a thousand pound vehicle can go up a hill without anything pulling it.

because it can....Answers everything with a simple change when needed.
Example: because he/she can, because they can,and because it can.

*Starts playing Pork and Beans by Weezer*

Why is it when I buy a bag of chips I get half chips half air. Dammit I want a full bag of chips.:(

I'm a Woman am I gonna have to put this in my sig? It's times like this I wish I could reach through the screen and bitch slap people.

calm down. It's not like we can see through your shirt....i mean screen.

OnTOPIC:why is football called football when you just run with the football in ur hands?

can you PM me the religion one, made me intrigued. lol

what makes girls naturally slower at running. guy running a 16 min 3 mile is amazing, while a girl breaking 20 mins is amazing...

yes women are slower right now but studies are showing the women speed is going up faster then the mens so in another 100 years they think theyll be running same speed.

yes women are slower right now but studies are showing the women speed is going up faster then the mens so in another 100 years they think theyll be running same speed.

XD Soon women will be faster than black guys. Maybe I'll be able to catch one by then.

IMO straight guys are bothered too much by gay guys. I understand choosing the two girls. But why be bothered by gay guys if they aren't bothering you?



How so I have nothing against lesbians. I've worked with lesbians I hung out with lesbians during high school and it never made me feel uncomfortable. I don't care to see two guys either it's not my thing. Honestly if I'm not haveing sex why would I wanna watch someone else having it?

gay guys are so disgusting on so many different lvl's i just want to hold my breathe when i see them and im like dont breath my way that how disgusted i am and 2 women even hot is still sick and i just see a film of discust on there face. i wouldnt want to be around iether kind. both defy nature.
"not for avarwen"
as for women wanting to be equal to men howcome they arent on the military draft only men can be drafted.

gay guys are so disgusting on so many different lvl's i just want to hold my breathe when i see them and im like dont breath my way that how disgusted i am and 2 women even hot is still sick and i just see a film of discust on there face. i wouldnt want to be around iether kind. both defy nature.
"not for avarwen"
as for women wanting to be equal to men howcome they arent on the military draft only men can be drafted.
Hey, I'm interested to know:

What levels of disgust are you talking about?

Maybe it's in the Eye of the Eyestalker (lol off-topic nerd puns), but I don't see a single thing disgusting about homosexuality, male or female. I'd like to see your reasons.

Hey, I'm interested to know:

What levels of disgust are you talking about?

Maybe it's in the Eye of the Eyestalker (lol off-topic nerd puns), but I don't see a single thing disgusting about homosexuality, male or female. I'd like to see your reasons.

He's a troll, nothing more.

gay guys are so disgusting on so many different lvl's i just want to hold my breathe when i see them and im like dont breath my way that how disgusted i am and 2 women even hot is still sick and i just see a film of discust on there face. i wouldnt want to be around iether kind. both defy nature.
"not for avarwen"
as for women wanting to be equal to men howcome they arent on the military draft only men can be drafted.

To each his own IMO if they aren't hitting on you I don't see a problem. Also I heard at some point there was a bill that had woman getting equal pay but in order to get it passed they had to agree to drafting and it got shot down. Not sure if it's true or not.

He's a troll, nothing more.

yea even his picture is a troll. everyone knows gay guys try to slober on you and nearly spit it on you when they talk.

To each his own IMO if they aren't hitting on you I don't see a problem. Also I heard at some point there was a bill that had woman getting equal pay but in order to get it passed they had to agree to drafting and it got shot down. Not sure if it's true or not.

well im realy attractive so im sure they are.

yea even his picture is a troll. everyone knows gay guys try to slober on you and nearly spit it on you when they talk.



well im realy attractive so im sure they are.

I was referring to you, smart guy.

yea even his picture is a troll. everyone knows gay guys try to slober on you and nearly spit it on you when they talk.



well im realy attractive so im sure they are.

Wow so you really have nothing better to do than troll? Quite sad really.

Wow so you really have nothing better to do than troll? Quite sad really.

well iwasnt trying to piss anyone off i was jsut stateing why most straight guys would think that way since you asked it not trying to troll shit cyall.

I'm a Woman am I gonna have to put this in my sig? It's times like this I wish I could reach through the screen and bitch slap people.

Shit, could've fooled me.

...

Oh, wait. You did. :stare:

well iwasnt trying to piss anyone off i was jsut stateing why most straight guys would think that way since you asked it not trying to troll shit cyall.

Think you went kinda far. We do have homosexual members, you know. :-/

(As if I didn't break any barriers myself. XD)

Why is it when I buy a bag of chips I get half chips half air. Dammit I want a full bag of chips.:(

Its filled with inert gas (Nitrogen) so the chips don't get soggy or rot.

Why the fuck there's this hill in Michigan where you put the car in neutral at the bottom of the hill and it goes up.

It freaks me out. I simply don't comprehend how a thousand pound vehicle can go up a hill without anything pulling it.

Fo' Shizzle?! That's cool. What's the name of that hill?

because it can....Answers everything with a simple change when needed.
Example: because he/she can, because they can,and because it can.

*Starts playing Pork and Beans by Weezer*

I'ma do the things that I wanna do
I ain't got a thing to prove to you
I'll eat my candy with the pork and beans
Excuse my manners if I make a scene
I ain't gonna wear the clothes that you like
I'm finally dandy with the me inside
One look in the mirror and I'm tickled pink
I don't give a hoot about what you think

why do they insist that you clean the dishes which you will later eat off of with detergent but say on the bottle sticker that if digested see your doctor immediatley. >_>

why do they insist that you clean the dishes which you will later eat off of with detergent but say on the bottle sticker that if digested see your doctor immediatley. >_>


ermm i wash the detergent off my dishes with water

why do they use the saying "fall in love" it makes it seem like a decline......