Hey. I'm a Full Support lvl 51 Assist. All my buffing skills are above lvl 5.
Mental: 8
HeapUp:11
BeefUp:9
CannonBall:8

Before i reach lvl 60 and become an RM, should i max my buffing skills or just level till 2nd job?

it would b better if u mac em up cuz ull b busy maxin up
da new skills dat u will get when u reach rm:D
my friend is lv 56 and all skills on lv 14+:p
insane huh???:eek:

Well, maxing skills takes a long time, so either way you'll be busy for a while. I do strongly suggest afking those skills, also maybe get them all to around 10+ and then go for RM. Heal should be at least 14. Those will help you find a decent partner to aoe you to 60.

Heal lvl 14 ^_^

Very well. i shall max my skills.

my heal is lv 15:p it heals around 750 i think:D

What's 'afking' your skills?

What's 'afking' your skills?

As you level up, the amount of PXP you have increases. Maybe the PXP use from skills also decreases when you level up the skill.

In any case, as you level up, skills will take less and less PXP, so eventually you can spam them while you're AFK. You'll still run of of MP quickly, but it regenerates even when standing, so once it has regenerated enough the skill will fire again and so on. It will take much longer than sitting, but since you're AFK that doesn't really matter...

My lvl 51 full-int assist can level her lvl 14 heap up and lvl 15 heal skills that way "for a while". Not enough to run the whole night or during worktime, though, but long enough to go shopping. For other buffs (most are at 12, accuracy still 11 and currently being worked on, quickstep 10, Prevention 7, Stonehand 8) AFK skilling doesn't really work yet, as they still take too much PXP.

And I think "afk skill leveling" is against the rules in FlyFF? hehe

yeah afk skill spam is against the rules. i had a friend who got banned for doing it. its all fun and games til someone gets banned :o

Why would it be against the rules? They made it to were it could be done, so they can't really ban you for it. Unless you macro it. I would just tape down the hotkey or the C button xD

Why would they put it in the rules if its not a rule?

seriously, we wouldnt lie about something like this. do it at your own risk, but dont come crying to us when your banned. Worth it? i think not

I'm pretty sure they don't ban for AFK skill spamming, most I've ever seen done was all the afkers the GMs could find warped into one spot and then killed. Seriously, if you go to Darkon on any server and go on the bridge leading out, you'll see abut 5-10 people on average AFKing their skills, and I have yet to see anything happen to them.

In any case, if you are going to AFK, go to a spot thats somewhat hidden, but close to mobs where you can get PxP from.

They can't really ban AFK skillers, since that's just an extremely stupid rule. Nobody gets hurt, and people with 2 boxes running Flyff get FAR more advantages than anyone will ever get from AFK skilling.

If the game makers wanted to prevent AFKing, they could have easily done so by adding some minor requirements for skills to cast --- releasing the key when mana runs out, require some minor movement after 100 casts or something similar. Something that requires people to upgrade from a simple "heavy object on your keyboard" to something more elaborate --- either a mechanical device or software. They can't competely prevent AFKing, since a decent bot can always kill monsters or perform whatever requirement the game makers put in. But a bot is something they can disallow=ban without upsetting players.

Of course, they could also rebalance the skills, so AFKing is no longer necessary since skills level normally.

They can't really ban AFK skillers, since that's just an extremely stupid rule. Nobody gets hurt, and people with 2 boxes running Flyff get FAR more advantages than anyone will ever get from AFK skilling.

If the game makers wanted to prevent AFKing, they could have easily done so by adding some minor requirements for skills to cast --- releasing the key when mana runs out, require some minor movement after 100 casts or something similar. Something that requires people to upgrade from a simple "heavy object on your keyboard" to something more elaborate --- either a mechanical device or software. They can't competely prevent AFKing, since a decent bot can always kill monsters or perform whatever requirement the game makers put in. But a bot is something they can disallow=ban without upsetting players.

Of course, they could also rebalance the skills, so AFKing is no longer necessary since skills level normally.



Its what happens, do it if you want to, but like Kait0s said, don't come crying to us because you were banned for doing it.

So it's safe to afk skilling?

So it's safe to afk skilling?

Last time I checked (4 months ago)
They only force disconnect people they find afk spamming... but due to the increase in population of people who do that I don't think they even care anymore - but I won't garentee that. I've been forced disconnected many times so yeah. Heh. Most of my skills are level 20 and I can't imagine sitting there leveling each one. From levle 19 - 20 alone.. it takes 28 hours.. of manual hitting your hotkey...

4 months ago? Welcome back then ^_^
I thought i got d/c due to my internet connection. =S

But, you do need the PxP? So after some time you'll run out of PxP? I'm a Merc, so it isn't really needed to AFK my skills I think, maybe Protection and Panbarrier.

It is true you need PxP. But lvling our buffing skills, it takes awhile to drain all the PxP. Usually we go Lvl our skills near mobs around a safe place.

Once you are higher level - your skills require less and less Pxp to train.
Meaning if it requires 20/100 pxp per use, at level 20.
It will be reduced as ur level progresses...
at 8x, my skills only require 0.03pxp per 1 use.

Hey. Wat skill should i level first?
Heal: lvl 15
HeapUp: lvl 12
BeefUp: lvl 9
Mental: lvl 8
CannonBall: lvl 8
Patience: lvl 8
Cat Reflexes: lvl 8

Hey. Wat skill should i level first?


"It depends".

For myself, I try to keep my buffs all levelled up to roughly the same level, ignoring only QuickStep (reached level 10 a few days ago), Stonehand and Prevention --- these are basically levelled as I use them, at least for now.

I started by putting everything to lvl 10; my current goal is lvl 12 (I don't like the odd levels for obvious reasons), which only Accuracy hasn't reached yet. Once Accuracy is at 12 I'll start putting stuff up to 14 and so on...

I've already moved ahead with Heap Up, as I think it's the most important buff, and it's useful for everyone. It's currently at 14 and my "AFK skill", so I'm not currently levelling it while I'm at the keyboard.

Other than that, I try to keep some balance between defensive buffs (good for everyone) and fighter-only buffs, toggling between the two groups and throwing in Mental Sign when I feel like it. For the fighter-buffs, I do Beef Up first, then Haste. Cannonball is classified as defensive for me, but since it's also an offensive buff I like to level it early.

Darkblade, Mercs actually do have some skills to AFK. If you have sneaker already then don't worry about increasing pan barrier and protection anymore than needed (they require a sheild to use, and Merc 2nd classes dont use shields.) Also, there's impower weapon which becomes useful later if you become a blade. And Axe/Sword Mastery, and Blazing Sword/Smite Axe are also important to have (level the one that corresponds to the weapon you will most likely use for the rest of the game).

okay. so i'll just level up my heap up for now...

Well - are you full support? or... BP?
Well it doesn't really matter since it seems like you're going to be healer/buffer. I would say most people you level will obviously care about buffs.
But most importantly its your ability to keep them alive. When you level up heal it will heal more and the time it takes you to cast heal will be reduced greatly (and I mean by a lot). So even if you can give the person a lot of HP from Heap Up, is your heal level high enough to continuously keep up with that HP. Because if mobbers think "Oh I have a lot of HP, lets mob some more". Then you might be in trouble.

Yea, Elki is right, as an AoEer, I try to look for someone with a higher heal, rather than buffs. Although buffs are important, if someone can heal me so that I don't have to use food, then I'm fine. But if there's one thing that annoys me, is finding an assist that is going BP who only has a lvl 5 heal and buffs below lvl 4, especially when i shout for an fs assist.

Best assist combo: Heal lvl 15+ with full Wedge/Flury, super fast casting with a great heal. I can tank 10+ monsters with that.

Hahah... there are many support assist going to be BP with high level heal.. but the only problem with that is the lack of INT for higher heal... so yeah. I still think BPs are overrated due to the level 75 skill and 80 skill...

What item that makes you cast spells fast for an Assist? And is it true that the skill patience will increase HP depending on your INT?

Flury for female
Wedge for male

Level 45 Armor Sets.

No. Patience is a fixed amount of HP added. Its like 2xx HP at level 20.

What's the Set effect that makes skills increase?
MP Consumption? What is MP Consumption anyways?

Uh... "MP Consumption"... as it sounds...
MP.. Magic Point.. Consumption.. consume... to take in...
so.. how much Magic Points it will take in, in order to use a skill...

No sets that makes skills increase in level.. no such thing...
There is a wand called Stick of Roritorin (spelling), level 45 wand which REDUCES the MP consumption of all your spells.

My bad for my wording ^_^" I meant increasing Casting speed

Erm.. I don't get what you're trying to say now..

omg XD

Okay Don't worry then, i'll just get Greens and good items and lvl my buffs ^_^

Oh well... supports, heal and buffs...

For myself, I'm always a bit worried about working with AoEs. Mind you, Telyia is still an assist --- using the lvl 1 healing spell, and having lvl 52 int plus the bonus from Flury and Saint Guarder. No INT jewelry. Still saving for "the stick"...

It always feels like I'm not making such a big difference --- if the damage comes in huge chunks, the AoE still has to eat. On the positive side, while their food timer is running, they still have heals coming in, and I can heal off smaller damage before it adds up, but if I'd let any other chars eat that much with me around, I'd have to boot myself out of the party and go back to Flaris for some serious therapy with the assist guy :-)

I don't know whether the Ringmaster (Ringmistress? Do they have female class names?) healing spell is "superior", or whether I'll continue using the Assist spell "forever"... that remains to be seen.

I haven't actually noticed an increase in casting rate when heal levelled up (only lvl 15 atm...), but that could be because it's a gradual increase. When I changed from Sayram to Flury the casting rate bonus came in one chunk, so it was more noticeable :-)

Right now, her buffs are "so-so" --- I'm not currently using refreshers when I'm solo, so the levelling is a lot slower than it could be. But... I want that stick :-) Still, some people tell me the buffs are good (geez... do they only know plvled billposters or what?), and I still believe that people sending party invites DID check the buffs. I'm not limited to AoEs... in fact, I hardly ever work with AoEs, simply because they already have assists (or Ringmasters?) with them.

I've met AoE billposters with better buffs than I currently have, but eventually I'll catch up with them :-) I can still put my duration on them, of course.
It's just a matter of time... and after I get "the stick", I intend to divert a bit of the trade profits to buy refreshers for levelling skills... even a few stacks are better than nothing :-)

Funny enough, while most of my buffs are lvl 12 (heap up is 14, quickstep is 10 --- not levelling that), Power Fist just turned lvl 13... sure, it's not a surprise --- if I counted correctly, 11 assist skills want to be mastered eventually, and that's not even counting the RM skills, and no matter which buff I'm levelling, Power Fist is being used to get PXP --- so she's going to be a Ringmaster with a decent punch :-)

Too bad Flyff doesn't account for that... "Hey guys, a ringmaster lady over there, let's bet her up, I can't see any Knights around and she only has that obscure lvl 45 stick, so this time we'll be getting the exp and drops for a change", for an extra bonus when she pops out her knuckle :-) Sure, right now I don't know how long that will actually work, but as long as there are "new" knuckles (-> higher damage) as I level up, I suppose it might work for a while longer...

I don't get what Kargor is trying to say =X... It is story time ^^;'?

I havent tried afkin skills
:D...must b really funny:p
i need heap up so am gonna use it

....wha happens if i get caught by a GM???:eek:

If anything your player will be killed our just DCed.

And Kargor, I think you are going a little off topic lol. But then again I go off topic all the time lol.

So anyways. On to the Topic: I'll have to Skill afk. cause i'm a FS assist with all my skills below 9 and only 3 skills over lvl 12. maxing them is time-consuming...

You don't have to, but it's suggested since leveling them on your own will take a long time.