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E-123 Omega
07-28-2008, 10:18 PM
Alright, I guess this is my opinion, and/or review... see it however you want too.

Anyhow, Atlantica Online... what can I say.

First of all, it was probably the best F2P game I've ever played, personally. This was also only a CB. The English Translation was done almost flawlessly for quests and NPCs alike, same with items, etc. I don't think I saw more then 5 spelling errors out of the 75+ NPC dialogues I read.

The story is great, and unlike many F2P MMO's this game actually ties in too it's story. I was skeptical at first, because it wasn't evident right off the bat. Then you come to realize that it's only due to the fact that Atlantis disappeared long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFKPiboh37U

*Spoilers for the storyline/plot of the game.*





Your main character is an Atlantean... well, they are a descendent of Atlantis. You end up going through the training part of the game (which alone uncovers alot) and then wake up from this "dreamworld". Now you are in the realworld, and yes... it's -our- world, with a complete map and everything. You can move across Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, etc.

Anyhow, creatures and people at certian parts of the world are going mad/mutating. No one knows why, but it's from this evil energy that affects them. Later you discover that the energy is from a device, and for some reason it does not affect you like everyone else. It turns out the device is from Atlantis, left over from a war long ago before the nation disappeared.

I'm guessing you aren't affected because you are a descendant of Atlantis, and it is revealed that the energy actually was healthy and had healing properties for the Atlanteans.

*End of Spoilers.*

Now, for the PvP. I LOVE the PvP in this game. Almost every day they would hold a Tournament where you could join for a chance to win a great sum of money and very useful items for your mercenaries. (Explained later.)

The tournaments would be set up like this: Level 19 and lower, level 29 and lower, level 39 and lower, etc... all the way up to a "Limitless" Tournament where anyone could join, and had the greatest prize in value.

When you would defeat someone in the Tournament you gain Fame points, that allow you to have Titles, from Soldier all the way up to General depending on the amount of points.



Along with the Tournament event (Which would take place twice every day I forgot to say) the Arena event would appear. This event would appear three times every day, and it consisted of a Tournament between NPC teams that you could bet on in various ways. If the NPC you betted on wins, you get the allotted Dividends for that NPC. (Which is based on how many people betted on that NPC. The fewer bets on one NPC would give it a higher dividend.)


Aside from these two things they have the fairly often seen request battle. It worked out well so far, and you wouldn't lose anything in PvP as far as I could tell, only gain things.



Now for the Mercenaries. This is probably my favourite concept of the game. You hire mercs to help your main character through the game, and there are various types. There are class D and C mercs we know about, and the rumored B and A mercs.

All mercs level with your main character, and you control them just like you would your main up to 9 total (including yourself.)

When they reach a certian level, you can use items to upgrade your mercenary, giving them a different look and more power. Although this does not change their class such as a Class D merc.




Alright... I forgot to mention Guilds. When you join a Guild, your Guild gains levels too. It earns experience as members do, and eventually you can take control of a town. When you own a town, you can create buildings for it, make it look different, raise it's health and security, and commerce, etc. There are travelling NPCs around that can move to your town to increase it's population, or you can aggressively increase your population by persuading NPCs to move there.

Whenever your towns population increases, all members of the Guild GAIN exp. from 500-2k dpending on the amount of people that moved there.

Eventually when your guild reaches level 30, and has 5 mill gold in funds, you can create your own Nation. This will allow you to have more control voer the region, it's people, other Guilds, and give you items and Mercs that aren't available to anyone else.



There are still many functions of the game I could explain, but it would take a looooong time. The graphics are beautiful, and the music is so-so, I really didn't mind it.

Anyhow, I will give the link for those who don't know about this game. There's some confusion on the Forums at the moment, because people are unsure if there is gonig to be another CB or OB which starts up again in August.

This is one game that I will seriously be heading back too, and if you have any questions that I could perhaps answer, then please ask. If you would also like to share your Atlantica experience here, please do so too! :)

http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/default.asp
Main Website. ^^^

hyarume
07-28-2008, 10:20 PM
My pc doesnt allow me to play yet..

Abubakr
07-28-2008, 10:24 PM
I really wanted to try this, but I get the shader error. -.- I need a new graphic card.

E-123 Omega
07-28-2008, 10:27 PM
Urg... that sucks. >.> I have an Intel Integrated graphics card... and it's not that great, but I guess Pixel Shader 2.0 is enough to run it.

hyarume
07-28-2008, 10:27 PM
Same, but mine just laaaaaaaaaagggggggssss

Abubakr
07-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Urg... that sucks. >.> I have an Intel Integrated graphics card... and it's not that great, but I guess Pixel Shader 2.0 is enough to run it.

I have intel integrated aswell, but it's just 64MB no shader or lighting. -.-

E-123 Omega
07-28-2008, 10:31 PM
I know what you mean. There's still many games I cannot play due to this craptastic card I have.

http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/pds/image.asp?media_type=2 <--- there's straight to the Screenshots page for those too lazy to go, or for those who want to see what the Graphics are like. :)

ArcDevil
07-28-2008, 10:32 PM
i tried it...im not gonna say it sucked or anything,it looked great and seemed to be fun and charming.actually i agree its one of the best f2p games available

but oh god, in my personal opinion mmo + turn based just dont mix,even tho they make this game great, i rather play a generic hack and slash where i feel a fast pace on my battles

guess i got sick of turn based rpgs in my snes and playstation back in the day

E-123 Omega
07-28-2008, 10:35 PM
I'd say it's turn based... but kinda not turn based.

Although you take turns in battle, you can have all of your men swarm one enemy at the exact same time, then your turn is up, and it's the enemies turn. That's what I liked.

You don't need to wait for one of your guys to attack, then for him to run back, just to send another to run out and attack, you can attack with all of them at once. XD

Haku_Honjo
07-28-2008, 10:39 PM
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5539/nycbt2.jpg

Orz
07-28-2008, 10:46 PM
If you dont mind turn based combat this game is amazing. It looks damn good for a f2p, and I liked everything about it. Best f2p out there , I cant wait for CB2 or OB whichever they choose to start :D

Karanos
07-28-2008, 11:21 PM
In my opinion, this game truly is a gem of a f2p game.

I love the combat..but then again I've always been a turn-based game lover. :)

This is definitely a game I'm going back to come OB. :D

Karanos, Artillaryman.

Anrick
07-28-2008, 11:26 PM
Any chance the OB will have an option to disable shader?

KeyGee
07-28-2008, 11:34 PM
where is the difference when i choose for example a shaman as my main or i take a shaman just as one of my merc? is my main shaman stronger then a merc shaman?

Orz
07-28-2008, 11:39 PM
where is the difference when i choose for example a shaman as my main or i take a shaman just as one of my merc? is my main shaman stronger then a merc shaman?

Every hero class can learn a special skill that their mercenary counterpart can't.

KeyGee
07-28-2008, 11:45 PM
can i see them somewhere listed? cause i cant find the information on theor website :/

Nakamura
07-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Every hero class can learn a special skill that their mercenary counterpart can't.

Yep, for shamans it's Evanescent Scud, rumored to be a pretty good offensive spell.

This is a huge game, the turn based and strategy aspect of it allows for major customization in PvP. You no longer have a "cookie cutter" path to go, but you can probably make a combination of many things work - that's what I really love about this game.

The cities + architectures are pretty awesome too. Every city was designed differently, and each one of them look awesome. With the exception of maybe New York, it looks more like Greek :P.

Ancients300
07-28-2008, 11:48 PM
Sadly i cant play because of the shader required.

I hope that in open beta well be able to disable the shader.

zeroburrito
07-28-2008, 11:52 PM
don't think they will remove shaders that are required for the game to run. spend 40 bucks and get a new card, or be stuck playing games recycled from korea 5 years ago forever.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 12:11 AM
Cards in my country aint 40 bucks.. the worst one with shader i can buy costs like 300bucks.

Pixel_Pie
07-29-2008, 12:15 AM
wow damn, im sad i missed out on this now, sounds like a pretty cool game.

anyone know when OB is gunna start?

AnimeminA
07-29-2008, 12:50 AM
actually, your main is probally one of the weakest in a way and the higher rank heroes are way stronger ^_~ the only advantages they have is that they have skills that ordinary mercenaries class can not have. i prefer it this way, main being the most powerful can sorta make things abit too easy most of the time.

there's also talk about being too old and dying, so a child will take the place with the same ability.

E-123 Omega
07-29-2008, 02:05 AM
can i see them somewhere listed? cause i cant find the information on theor website :/

If you are talking about the classes, here they are.

http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/guide/character.asp <- that's for your main character.

http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/guide/mercenary01.asp <- that's for Mercs. Skills can be seen below them.

As for asking when the next CB/OB starts, it's in August.

I always joked about the Spartans having warcry as their skill, I always said they probably shout something along the lines of "SPARTA!"

zeroburrito
07-29-2008, 02:29 AM
Cards in my country aint 40 bucks.. the worst one with shader i can buy costs like 300bucks.

what country? you're saying that good cards would cost you about 2000 bucks(40 dollar card in us has right shaders but is not even a below average card.)? would be interesting to know what country you live in.

gokangster
07-29-2008, 03:27 AM
anyone whos saying this is f2p...umm u there is a little fast since this is just CB. if the game goes well it can turn to P2P...
well not saying thats gonna happen but it could and giving false info is to bit fast.
anyway too bad our characters gets wiped but in other way its good cuz
more new players get better chance to follow up those experienced.


-opinion on the game-
i rate this game 3 out of 5...
its fun and refreshing a bit since its a little different than other mmos but
the mindless quests are bit boring.
most of them says different things but basicly are same
this game wasnt too wow to me.
up to 20 was ok but after that, the game got plain.
also the battle was no fun since u use the same skills for the character over and over. theres only like five or four per character.
u dont get to use all. most of them u have to buy in market which cost a little high and they dun come out easy.
tat was a down side.
the other thing was looting system where each time the monster is dead u have to use a turn to get the item from it...first it didnt matter but as u get higher lvl and fight stronger mobs...that hurts to ur party since u lose a turn.
(people say why not wait untill all of them are dead....well....by the time u beat them all, one or two, sometimes three of the dead bodies disappears which means the items are gone....hate when that happens.)
graphics are pretty decent. not amazing.
camera system is annoying. actually horrible.
when u turn next to a wall it just passes right through so u cant see ur character and sometimes it gets some what stuck and jiggles in there.
gameplay it self was not too great but not too bad. ill give about 2.5

i said all the negetive things since other people said the possitive and u cant judge a game just by reading all the possitive things.
this game isnt a bad game and i recomend people trying.
also the good news is this is only CB!!
stuffs from the krn one will show up and i just hope those come out fast.
i hope more people join the game and acctually try it out.
the game need population since its such a big world.

AnimeminA
07-29-2008, 03:49 AM
anyone whos saying this is f2p...umm u there is a little fast since this is just CB. if the game goes well it can turn to P2P...
well not saying thats gonna happen but it could and giving false info is to bit fast.
anyway too bad our characters gets wiped but in other way its good cuz
more new players get better chance to follow up those experienced.


-opinion on the game-
i rate this game 3 out of 5...
its fun and refreshing a bit since its a little different than other mmos but
the mindless quests are bit boring.
most of them says different things but basicly are same
this game wasnt too wow to me.
up to 20 was ok but after that, the game got plain.
also the battle was no fun since u use the same skills for the character over and over. theres only like five or four per character.
u dont get to use all. most of them u have to buy in market which cost a little high and they dun come out easy.
tat was a down side.
the other thing was looting system where each time the monster is dead u have to use a turn to get the item from it...first it didnt matter but as u get higher lvl and fight stronger mobs...that hurts to ur party since u lose a turn.
(people say why not wait untill all of them are dead....well....by the time u beat them all, one or two, sometimes three of the dead bodies disappears which means the items are gone....hate when that happens.)
graphics are pretty decent. not amazing.
camera system is annoying. actually horrible.
when u turn next to a wall it just passes right through so u cant see ur character and sometimes it gets some what stuck and jiggles in there.
gameplay it self was not too great but not too bad. ill give about 2.5

i said all the negetive things since other people said the possitive and u cant judge a game just by reading all the possitive things.
this game isnt a bad game and i recomend people trying.
also the good news is this is only CB!!
stuffs from the krn one will show up and i just hope those come out fast.
i hope more people join the game and acctually try it out.
the game need population since its such a big world.

we're not being hasty about the comment of the game is being cash item. the game is going to be f2p with cash item. many of the license in the game are part of the cash item, even tho they are obtainable in the game as well.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 03:58 AM
what country? you're saying that good cards would cost you about 2000 bucks(40 dollar card in us has right shaders but is not even a below average card.)? would be interesting to know what country you live in.

Brazil.

The top card in here costs 1.2k bucks.


We get paid high, but everything that are considered "not nescessary" is expensive.

A car that you can buy in USA for 15k, costs like 40k dollars in here.

zeroburrito
07-29-2008, 04:00 AM
whats the 300 dollar card? most expensive here is about 500. a huge difference from 40. more than the 300 is from 1200.

AnimeminA
07-29-2008, 04:02 AM
like i said, we weren't being hasty about it being f2p. i was going to say that we have hard-proof that it will be f2p but i can't recall where i heard it so i recall my previous statement. now, i found the interview i was looking for. these are the words from the mouth of the people who work on atlantica online

"Jonric: Are we correct to assume the game will be free to play with optional item purchases? Why did you choose this model?

Kim Tae Gon: Yes, our revenue will come through the micro-transaction model. We really believe this will play a major role in how online releases are monetized in the future. We think it gives players more options. They can come and try the game without making a financial investment. If they really get into it, they can purchase items to help them level up faster or to make certain things more convenient. We feel this approach will attract more people to experience Atlantica for themselves, and we just hope to give them a fun experience so that they'll want to keep playing."

this is the link: http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/887/887715p1.html

Anrick
07-29-2008, 04:04 AM
whats the 300 dollar card? most expensive here is about 500. a huge difference from 40. more than the 300 is from 1200.

Well the prices are not related to each other. Some vgas are made here or in south america, so theyre expensive but not so much, but when we got import from USA they get pretty expensive.

Orz
07-29-2008, 04:07 AM
i hope that the cash shop is mostly for like auto move and teleport and nothing that unbalances the game.

E-123 Omega
07-29-2008, 04:11 AM
Yeah, it's always gonna be F2P.

And the cash shop items aren't gamebreaking. Auto-walk scrolls, etc. Nothing that really helps in fights. Sure... they have Auto-Battle scrolls, but those will get you killed against mobs a bit stronger then you.

Needless to say, as stated, you can also get most of the Cash shop items in game relatively easy too.

malfion
07-29-2008, 04:36 AM
Fun game, but I'm not gonna stick with it(I gave up due to other things I had going on at the time).

Haku_Honjo
07-29-2008, 04:45 AM
Amazing game IMO, but had a flaw. I was doing the sparring in rome with some npcs rented.. Out of nowhere a lvl 66 player joins and owns me very hard. I think i actually lost my monks boots due to that. I had some on before i went to rome and they were gone after that fight.

E-123 Omega
07-29-2008, 05:43 AM
Wow, that right there sounds like one bug out of it. You don't even lose anything from NPCs when you get beaten aside from some gold and a miniscule amount of Exp.

nmmmym
07-29-2008, 08:24 AM
Well all i have to say is, this game rox. Theres almost unlimited stuffs u can do throughout ur game time.

1stly i would like to correct some of the stuffs 1 of the forum member said about the game.

PvP is about strategy and not about using fancy skills that each of ur mercs have. Its about what mercs ur team consisit of and where u place them as a team formation. 1 pvp battle can easily last up to 15 mins or more if both players play their strategy well. I had a pvp battle once when i was lvl 4x with another lvl 4x player which lasted for around 15 mins. We both had different team formations and mercs but eventually there was a mistake he made where he placed his main in the front lines so i was able to finish him off.

Next up is about looting, yes during the lower lvls and the mid lvls looting can be a pain but it can be easily compromised if u are in a party. In the mid lvls its all about partying cos mobs like u said will be harder to kill. So being in party and looting system set as random, 1 player can sacrifice his mercs to loot when possible and the other can use his available mercs to do dmg. And partying also gives exp boost. Well, if u are a solo type player, its still possible to get autoloot but u must have an inventer in ur team which is quite late in the game when u can get him at lvl 84. Inventer has the ability to summon machines out and 1 of these summon is the autoloot machine which does the looting for u. I believe his summons can all be crafted out. Altho i have not tried machinary crafting but i do have it at lvl 1 which alrdy enables u to craft out the autoloot machine.

Now i'[m going into crafting. This game is by now, 1 of the games that spares a thought for ppl who like scrafting instead of mindless killings of mobs. crafting list goes all the way down from ur equips and accessories, potions, revive pots to food, until the more sophisticated crafting like town buildings and enchant stones crafting and even skill books crafting. Some of these crafting skills will require u to take up another crafting skill cos u will need materials from the other to do 1. Like skill books under the Book craft will require paper from the stationary craft. The list just goes on. Each craft skill has a limit of lvl to 100. and when u get to a certain craft lvl, u will unlock new things to craft.

Heres the special part of the game, its about skill combination. What do i mean by that? It means using 2 spells in battle on the same target to produce a new spell. Example : casting a swordman's Darkseed spell and a shaman's Hex spell on the same target will result in a new Spell called Hell Flame. Darkseed and Hex are both DoT which means Hell Flame is also DoT but has more dmg and lasts longer with a nicer animation. Mobs will be covers in purplish flame which is very visible. Theres alot more combination of spells for us players to find out so what do u mean by having the same spell for each mercs is boring????

Life is never boring since the start of the game. from lvl 1 u start going through the tutorials which will let u understand the gameplay more and also understand the storyline of the game. Omega has alrdy roughly told u guys about the storyline so i shall not go into that. Each player start off with 2 mercs 1 main at lvl 1. Every 10 lvls u can hire 1 more merc to ur team up to a maximum of 9 which will be at lvl 50. bear in mind during pvp, having 9 in a team doesnt mean u will definately own the other who has only 5 or 6 in a team. In the mid game at around lvl 44, u can start doing the beast trainer quest which will allow u to have a beast trainer in ur team, this is a class c merc which excels in def and hp and also has summon beast skill that does aoe dmg to all in the other team. This will also be ur 1st whole team aoe if u have him. At lvl 51 u will get witch and so on. By lvl 30 u shld have got urself into a guild or alrdy made a guild. Now the guild system... what can i say.. so much things to do. once u get a guild u aim for getting a town, 1k guild points will entitle u to apply for 1 town's control. once u own a town, its time to develope it. U can do guild crafting which requires the whole guild's effort to produce a certain item, usually building as this skill can only be done via guild craft. Only the guildmaster and the guild's officers can start guild crafting using the guild management option. Guild has lvls too. once ur guild reaches lvl 20 the guild leader can organize guild meeting in their own town and players who turn up will get a friendship box that gives items like vials and scrolls. At guild lvl 30, u can start a Nation and eventually take over bigger cities like Rome and go into Nation vs Nation wars.

Theres so much more about the game and to those players who only just stopped playing b4 lvl 40, u dont know what u guys are missing out on.

Definately will go back to the game although they alrdy wiped all our charecters. Definately a worth to play f2p game that i will probably spend money in it. See u all back when the server reopens ^^

exilenz
07-29-2008, 09:18 AM
I loved this game, far the best f2p mmo out there.
I never got bored playing it.

The craft system is really great because you dont have to stop fighting/playing to do it, in fact you need to fight in order for the crafts to complete.

Its turn based but its fast paced you need to make your choices quick specially when you have 9 mercs. I got to lvl 50 during beta and i dont mind starting all over, it doesnt really take much time getting to that lvl if you know what you are doing.

The auto tournaments are great, everyone has a chance to participate and win and Rome.. well its beautifull makes you feel like you are in the gladiator movie :D

The map is huge and i mean really huge altough some areas are just rocks and trees i hope they will expand the monsters and maybe even the map.

Guild system is one of the best ive ever seen, you can actually place structures in towns like an rts in order to create better conditions for the villagers living there. Guild crafting rocks, everyone helps the craft to complete so making huge workloads finish faster.

Story wise, for a f2p mmo is something very elaborated, ok the base is all the same kill this, kill that, bring me this bring me that. but if you actually read the story is quite good and interesting. who here never dreamed about atlantis civilization?

Theres a lot more i could add here, but why dont you go and see? ^^
Ill be there once the beta opens again


Peace, SoulChaiN

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 12:16 PM
This is easily the best F2P game I have ever played, and in my opinion even better than a lot of P2P games out there at the moment.


I will continue to play it and support that game using their cash shop.

In my opinion, you can even compare the content of games like WoW and L2 with the content of Atlantica.

Zarn
07-29-2008, 12:32 PM
I played it for something like 15 minutes before I had to go out, but I liked it. Guess I'll be on OBT as well.

ArcDevil
07-29-2008, 12:32 PM
In my opinion, you can even compare the content of games like WoW and L2 with the content of Atlantica.
thats funny,considering that in both those games mentioned maxing your char is barely the beginning of most of the content they offer

and while that could be true for Atlantica aswell, i seriously doubt you have experienced or even seen 1/4 what it has to offer in this 10 day testing phase.so your talking out of your ass.

dont act like your hopes or expectatives are facts

hyarume
07-29-2008, 12:49 PM
This is easily the best F2P game I have ever played, and in my opinion even better than a lot of P2P games out there at the moment.


I will continue to play it and support that game using their cash shop.

In my opinion, you can even compare the content of games like WoW and L2 with the content of Atlantica.

Yes it owns wow

L2 hmm... not sure

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 01:01 PM
thats funny,considering that in both those games mentioned maxing your char is barely the beginning of most of the content they offer

and while that could be true for Atlantica aswell, i seriously doubt you have experienced or even seen 1/4 what it has to offer in this 10 day testing phase.so your talking out of your ass.

dont act like your hopes or expectatives are facts

So, what the fuck are you smoking?

The fact that I know that I NOW know so little of this game, yet I have learned tons about it, justifies my statement about the content comparassion.
I have seen TONS of content in this game so far, and as you said. I have probably not seen or experienced 1/4th of the whole game. So by that, I do belive I have the right do express my opinion in such way.

I'm not talking about this game 'owning' other games, that's for each and everyone to determine, I was merely comparing content.


And oh, I love how you tell me to not act like my hopes or expectatives are facts, while in that same sentence you quoted me on, I clearly wrote "In my opinion". Re-read before making an asshat out of yourself please.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:02 PM
Guys, we all know that cash shop will have exclusive mercs...dont say that it will not unbalance the game.

MoonSoul
07-29-2008, 01:05 PM
Guys, we all know that cash shop will have exclusive mercs...dont say that it will not unbalance the game.


Wat? LOL

Now, where did you get that info rofl.

Edit: Besides, someone quoted an interview in which they clearly stated that all the items available for cash shop users would be available to players that didn't use cash shop, equally.

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 01:06 PM
Guys, we all know that cash shop will have exclusive mercs...dont say that it will not unbalance the game.

Source for that please? Since the cash-shop has not been introduced yet, how can you know that?

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:07 PM
A game with Mercenaries. They need to make profit. Its obvious that cash shop will have exclusive mercenaries.

Just like sotnw has rNPCs. I said the same thing when the game was beggining, everyone laughed at me. Now cash shop has exclusive rNPCs.

Maybe there will be something to make mercenaries young again, without dying. On cash shop

And, I have my own sources.

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 01:11 PM
I think your merc wont die, 'cause monk is already real old so he wil die to fast

MoonSoul
07-29-2008, 01:12 PM
A game with Mercenaries. They need to make profit. Its obvious that cash shop will have exclusive mercenaries.

Just like sotnw has rNPCs. I said the same thing when the game was beggining, everyone laughed at me. Now cash shop has exclusive rNPCs.

Maybe there will be something to make mercenaries young again, without dying. On cash shop

And, I have my own sources.

Your source is your own assumption of what a company could do with this type of game and a cash shop system.

Yet, they already made a statement about it and you have none to back up yours, so please at least wait and see before raising any dust with foreseeing assumptions.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 01:14 PM
I really wanted to try this, but I get the shader error. -.- I need a new graphic card. You can get cards with shader 2.0 cheap, just check out these links:

New Egg-
ATI (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201305520549&bop=And&Order=PRICE)

NVIDIA (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201305520548&bop=And&Order=PRICE)

Even Wal Mart has some LOL:
Priced low to high (http://www.walmart.com/search/browse-ng.do?catNavId=645320&tab_value=65_All&ic=24_0&ref=125875.413765&search_sort=4&selected_items=)

Sorry, but Wally World does not know how to sort their crap out. Video cards start at mid page.

Hope this helps you out.

OT: I find this game refreshing. Even though its turn based, its done so well. I will be playing it in the future.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:14 PM
Your source is your own assumption of what a company could do with this type of game and a cash shop system.

Yet, they already made a statement about it and you have none to back up yours, so please at least wait and see before raising any dust with foreseeing assumptions.

Lol. Cant reveal my sources.

When you see Im right, what do I win? Some cookies?

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 01:15 PM
A game with Mercenaries. They need to make profit. Its obvious that cash shop will have exclusive mercenaries.

Just like sotnw has rNPCs. I said the same thing when the game was beggining, everyone laughed at me. Now cash shop has exclusive rNPCs.

Maybe there will be something to make mercenaries young again, without dying. On cash shop

And, I have my own sources.

Did you even play the game yourself? Sorry, but I don't trust "your own sources"
There are tons, and tons of things they can and probably will add to the cash shop to make an income. Costumes, capes (as there's a cape slot, and necklace slot but I havent found any capes or necklaces in game yet)

Also lots of licenses, maybe items to boost crafting experience or workload gained while crafting.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 01:18 PM
Lol. Cant reveal my sources.

When you see Im right, what do I win? Some cookies?Under a strict NDA? If not, then your just blowing steam.

Unlike you, I do have strict NDAs that restrict me from announcing certain games or tell you what I am testing. Breaching my contract would cost me a heavy fine and/or lose by QA business.

Did you even play the game yourself? Sorry, but I don't trust "your own sources"
There are tons, and tons of things they can and probably will add to the cash shop to make an income. Costumes, capes (as there's a cape slot, and necklace slot but I havent found any capes or necklaces in game yet)

Also lots of licenses, maybe items to boost crafting experience or workload gained while crafting. I played up to level 20, and it does have necklaces in the game. They are just a hard drop to get. I obtained 2 and sold 1 to some one for 10K with ease.

From what I seen from the stats, I think the drop rate might be a bit buggy.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Under a strict NDA? If not, then your just blowing steam.

Unlike you, I do have strict NDAs that restrict me from announcing certain games or tell you what I am testing. Breaching my contract would cost me a heavy fine and/or lose by QA business.

I played up to level 20, and it does have necklaces in the game. They are just a hard drop to get. I obtained 2 and sold 1 to some one for 10K with ease.

From what I seen from the stats, I think the drop rate might be a bit buggy.

No, but my source is under NDA and If i reveal that he was the one who told me, hes the one whos gonna be in a bad situation

MoonSoul
07-29-2008, 01:22 PM
Lol. Cant reveal my sources.

When you see Im right, what do I win? Some cookies?

Dude, to simply put it, the KR version is already running full fledge for some time now and no such thing happened, yet they probably are the most avid cash shop users out in the market.

That kinda says something to me, it says if it didn't happen so far+the statement they gave us makes the chances of that happening very very low.

You don't get a cookie even if you're right, you'll get a "Damn you, you jinxed us"

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:22 PM
Did you even play the game yourself? Sorry, but I don't trust "your own sources"
There are tons, and tons of things they can and probably will add to the cash shop to make an income. Costumes, capes (as there's a cape slot, and necklace slot but I havent found any capes or necklaces in game yet)

Also lots of licenses, maybe items to boost crafting experience or workload gained while crafting.

I didnt played the game myself. Is that required so someone can tell me what cash shop will have?

Sorry but, there will be mercenaries on it.

Dude, to simply put it, the KR version is already running full fledge for some time now and no such thing happened, yet they probably are the most avid cash shop users out in the market.

That kinda says something to me, it says if it didn't happen so far+the statement they gave us make the chances of that happening very very low.

You don't get a cookie even if you're right, you'll get a "Damn you, you jinxed us"


It comes with time XO And if im wrong, i just wont believe on anything that source tells me, simple as that.

This is not a horse race, im not telling you guys the winner horse so you guys bet all money in it and if im wrong you guys will get broke.

Its just a free , with 50% chance of happening , information.

MoonSoul
07-29-2008, 01:25 PM
I didnt played the game myself. Is that required so someone can tell me what cash shop will have?

Sorry but, there will be mercenaries on it.




It comes with time XO

Till it happens you got nothing on it, sorry.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:27 PM
Till it happens you got nothing on it, sorry.

As I said, theres nothing to be sorry.. God, you guys are acting like if I said a meteor will crush with earth in 3 days..0.0

I just said that CS will have mercenaries..

The normal reaction upon that would be: "Oh, cool. Lets see if its true"
"Haha, i dont believe you."

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 01:34 PM
As I said, theres nothing to be sorry.. God, you guys are acting like if I said a meteor will crush with earth in 3 days..0.0

I just said that CS will have mercenaries..

The normal reaction upon that would be: "Oh, cool. Lets see if its true"
"Haha, i dont believe you."You said more than that. You also posted about an aging system, which is another reason why youre looking like a git right now.

A game with Mercenaries. They need to make profit. Its obvious that cash shop will have exclusive mercenaries.

Just like sotnw has rNPCs. I said the same thing when the game was beggining, everyone laughed at me. Now cash shop has exclusive rNPCs.

Maybe there will be something to make mercenaries young again, without dying. On cash shop

And, I have my own sources. The bold text is where you shoved your foot in your mouth and now its coming out of your ass and re-inserting itself.

So, trying to back out of what you said? Careful, dont want that foot to make another roundtrip.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 01:40 PM
You said more than that. You also posted about an aging system, which is another reason why youre looking like a git right now.

The bold text is where you shoved your foot in your mouth and now its coming out of your ass and re-inserting itself.

So, trying to back out of what you said? Careful, dont want that foot to make another roundtrip.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/38667

Just shut up dude.. Just shut up...

And if youre busy taking care of your children and dont wanna read it will quote for you:


In addition to procreating, mercenaries have another real-world quality: they age. Mercenaries under your control will eventually decline in strength and other stats as they grow older. This means you must continually bring on and discard mercenaries over the course of the game. You can’t just assemble a super team of mercenaries, expecting them to take you all the way to Atlantis. A player’s main character, however, does not age in Atlantica.


Oh, and the mercenaries can also have children. And before you say "But you said they would die" and add more of your bullcrap, they will die when you discard them, because theyre really old and cant help you anymore on battles.

In wich ass is my foot now?

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 01:47 PM
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/38667

Just shut up dude.. Just shut up...

And if youre busy taking care of your children and dont wanna read it will quote for you:




Oh, and the mercenaries can also have children.LMFAO, it took you this long to produce this small part as a source? You are a sad one, child. I see you have issues as well since you became slightly hostile over the internet...

You have sources..... LMFAO. Just do us a favor and shut it yourself. Your foot has earned frequent flyer miles.

SOURCES!!!! I have sources that tell me this will be ... F2P, OMFG!!! I wont tell you where I heard it from.

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 01:51 PM
so i was looking on the korean site of atlantica
http://atlantica.ndoors.com/center/
and i see only licenses and scrolls and boxes in teh cashshop and i think there wil also be mounts in the cashshop.

There will be some sexy weapons

http://atlantica.ndoors.com/center/filedata/board/img/200807/00_0.jpg

AnimeminA
07-29-2008, 01:52 PM
aging system only applies to the mercenaries, not the main. the argument about aging system is 50-50 because it is only exclusive to the mercenaries you have gather and not the main characters.

the proper link for the cash item is at http://atlantica.ndoors.com/center/item/product_main_list.asp

becide for taking many assumption, please take a look at these links too

Atlantica Online Interview - Part 1
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/887/887715p1.html

Atlantica Online Interview - Part 2
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/888/888667p1.html

Atlantica Online Media #1
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/888/888711p1.html

Atlantica Online Media #2
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/892/892896p1.html

Anrick
07-29-2008, 02:00 PM
LMFAO, it took you this long to produce this small part as a source? You are a sad one, child. I see you have issues as well since you became slightly hostile over the internet...

You have sources..... LMFAO. Just do us a favor and shut it yourself. Your foot has earned frequent flyer miles.

SOURCES!!!! I have sources that tell me this will be ... F2P, OMFG!!! I wont tell you where I heard it from.

Lol. You have issues admiting you lost huh? That wasnt my source about the cash shop items. That was me proving that THERE WILL BE an aging system on the game. Wich you said that "I made an asusmption that there will be an aging system."

My source told me there will be a item to reset your mercenaries age.

You suck. You lost. Deal with it.

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 02:02 PM
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/38667

Just shut up dude.. Just shut up...

And if youre busy taking care of your children and dont wanna read it will quote for you:




Oh, and the mercenaries can also have children. And before you say "But you said they would die" and add more of your bullcrap, they will die when you discard them, because theyre really old and cant help you anymore on battles.

In wich ass is my foot now?

Lol. You have issues admiting you lost huh? That wasnt my source about the cash shop items. That was me proving that THERE WILL BE an aging system on the game. Wich you said that "I made an asusmption that there will be an aging system."

My source told me there will be a item to reset your mercenaries age.

You suck. You lost. Deal with it.

So why does he suck?

Anrick
07-29-2008, 02:08 PM
Umm. Because when I said there will be an item in cs wich gets your mercs younger, he said:

"YOU MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL BE AN AGING SYSTEM"

And got his post full of unescessary flames.

Then I posted an article saying that there will be an aging system, and he again, posted another post full of unescessary flames.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 02:09 PM
Lol. You have issues admiting you lost huh? That wasnt my source about the cash shop items. That was me proving that THERE WILL BE an aging system on the game. Wich you said that "I made an asusmption that there will be an aging system."

My source told me there will be a item to reset your mercenaries age.

You suck. You lost. Deal with it.

The final words of a child. Bravo!!! Now do me a favor and go back to your language teacher with the post I quoted previously. You will notice that the failure is all yours. Why? The way the post was composed.

Now please learn something child, you have failed more than 3 times already. 1. Composition of a post shows your failure to portray what you have meant.
2. Failure to prove your source is correct.
3. Others prove your source is wrong.
and a few more.

Now seeing that the other client versions do not have it, it would be 100% safe to say, the english version will not have it either. This does not mean the CS will not change, but it does say, its not there.

In the end, I have not failed. You just dont know how to propely compose or do research to see if your sources are correct. Its that simple.

Orz
07-29-2008, 02:11 PM
Lol. You have issues admiting you lost huh? That wasnt my source about the cash shop items. That was me proving that THERE WILL BE an aging system on the game. Wich you said that "I made an asusmption that there will be an aging system."

My source told me there will be a item to reset your mercenaries age.

You suck. You lost. Deal with it.

actually you suck, and lose. deal with it wow fanboy :D
Your argument is about as stupid as you, saying they need to make money so they will put exclusive npcs in cs. auto move and teleport and things like that will be all the draw they need for people to flock to the cash shop. If there is whatever but I highly doubt it.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 02:13 PM
Dude, just stop already.

You dont wanna understand.

I Said my sources told me about cash shop items. And you said this:

You said more than that. You also posted about an aging system, which is another reason why youre looking like a git right now.
The bold text is where you shoved your foot in your mouth and now its coming out of your ass and re-inserting itself.
So, trying to back out of what you said? Careful, dont want that foot to make another roundtrip.

And I posted this:

In addition to procreating, mercenaries have another real-world quality: they age. Mercenaries under your control will eventually decline in strength and other stats as they grow older. This means you must continually bring on and discard mercenaries over the course of the game. You can’t just assemble a super team of mercenaries, expecting them to take you all the way to Atlantis. A player’s main character, however, does not age in Atlantica.



Now, just shut up.

tarozeero
07-29-2008, 02:13 PM
played it, loved it for 2 days. but turn based combat wasn't for me. i hated pokemon

Anrick
07-29-2008, 02:14 PM
actually you suck, and lose. deal with it wow fanboy :D
Your argument is about as stupid as you, saying they need to make money so they will put exclusive npcs in cs. auto move and teleport and things like that will be all the draw they need for people to flock to the cash shop. If there is whatever but I highly doubt it.

Lol, Wow fanboy.. i hate wow.

And first, I only said that will be mercs on cash shop, there no big deal about this. Just believe it, or not.

But cyber gotta flame everyone he sees right? I have to meet one person who disagreed with him and didnt got flamed by his bullcrap.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Umm. Because when I said there will be an item in cs wich gets your mercs younger, he said:

"YOU MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL BE AN AGING SYSTEM"

And got his post full of unescessary flames.

Then I posted an article saying that there will be an aging system, and he again, posted another post full of unescessary flames.
Did I post
"YOU MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL BE AN AGING SYSTEM"?

No I did not. You did though.

Please read what I have said and learn to comprehend what is said. I am really starting to think english is not your first language, and you need more lessons.

It was the combination of the CS mercs and aging system that I was correcting you on. With this post you made:

As I said, theres nothing to be sorry.. God, you guys are acting like if I said a meteor will crush with earth in 3 days..0.0

I just said that CS will have mercenaries..
The normal reaction upon that would be: "Oh, cool. Lets see if its true"
"Haha, i dont believe you."

See the bold text? Its where you failed, and I corrected you on that. You failed to comprehend what I posted, from the start.

You didnt even want to post sources on that poortion till I had to point out your error. Look at you now. Your trying to hide that real fact. Your failure to comprehend and compose.

More and more is piling up on that list of failure... By this rate, your foot will be able to rent a car for its trip.

Kashis
07-29-2008, 02:21 PM
You see, this right here is why we need subtopics within threads, cause all that this arguing does lead away from the main topic. Plus, the way people argue here (you fail, i win, you suck, you're an idiot, etc. Who says that in a real debate?) makes all that noise seem very childish.

Back on point, I've been wondering what the game was all about, and from what I've seen it looks to be a game i'd like to play.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 02:21 PM
No, im not hiding anything. I will say it again, there will be mercs on cash shop. Simple as that.

And again, what i said, wasnt a big thing. Just believe or not.

But no, youre cyber, you gotta flame everyone you see.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 02:21 PM
But cyber gotta flame everyone he sees right? I have to meet one person who disagreed with him and didnt got flamed by his bullcrap.Again failure to read posts.

There are several opinions that I have not agreed with and did not flame. Do a bit of research, child.

Also, I am not flaming here. As per definition of flaming.

I think someone really needs to learn to comprehend what is posted, and not what he wants it to interpret it as...


Back on point, I've been wondering what the game was all about, and from what I've seen it looks to be a game i'd like to play. It was a surprise to me on how well this game was made and I have many doubts about turn based RPGs in the MMORPG genre.

I didnt think I was going to enjoy it. I obtained the keys for my brother and son. In the end, my brother insisted on me playing it, and I do enjoy it. Like I said, it was a unexpected surprise.

Orz
07-29-2008, 02:26 PM
Lol, Wow fanboy.. i hate wow.

And first, I only said that will be mercs on cash shop, there no big deal about this. Just believe it, or not.

But cyber gotta flame everyone he sees right? I have to meet one person who disagreed with him and didnt got flamed by his bullcrap.

woops got posters confused sorry your name was like another guys. I don't believe you but that doesnt mean i can't flame you I don't have to Just believe it, or not.;)

see my post count, that means i don't know/care who any of you are but i can tell your a bad troll. "And, I have my own sources." lol

Anrick
07-29-2008, 02:26 PM
Again failure to read posts.

There are several opinions that I have not agreed with and did not flame. Do a bit of research, child.

Also, I am not flaming here. As per definition of flaming.

I think someone really needs to learn to comprehend what is posted, and not what he wants it to interpret it as...

It was a surprise to me on how well this game was made and I have many doubts about turn based RPGs in the MMORPG genre.

I didnt think I was going to enjoy it. I obtained the keys for my brother and son. In the end, my brother insisted on me playing it, and I do enjoy it. Like I said, it was a unexpected surprise.


Oh, calling me child, saying i put my foot up my ass , isnt flaming?

Danuve
07-29-2008, 02:31 PM
Oh, calling me child, saying i put my foot up my ass , isnt flaming?


Ignore it and it goes away.

ArcDevil
07-29-2008, 02:40 PM
So, what the fuck are you smoking?

The fact that I know that I NOW know so little of this game, yet I have learned tons about it, justifies my statement about the content comparassion.
I have seen TONS of content in this game so far, and as you said. I have probably not seen or experienced 1/4th of the whole game. So by that, I do belive I have the right do express my opinion in such way.

I'm not talking about this game 'owning' other games, that's for each and everyone to determine, I was merely comparing content.


And oh, I love how you tell me to not act like my hopes or expectatives are facts, while in that same sentence you quoted me on, I clearly wrote "In my opinion". Re-read before making an asshat out of yourself please.

i never said anything about "owning",nor i put that words in your mouth. dont go there.

i wonder what "tons of content" have you found to compare it to L2 or WoW. that game has to be bigger than a fucking mammoth,if you found enough content in your....what? 15-20 levels?... to compare it to WoW. and i must be blind since i couldnt find any of that.

unless by content you mean "oh lawl kill mobs ,many different mobs...and buy swords,yup....and use spells,me lykes spells ya ya sir"...which is pretty much all i saw in the few hours i played.

is that your definition of content?

anyway,i can point you dozens if not hundreds of games where you see all the "content" they can offer in the first 20 levels,from then onwards and till the endgame its just the same shit repeated ad nauseam

if you are very very very very lucky,at the end you'll be given either "raid this 1-2 bosses forever", "pvp for NO specific reason other than:those are your enemies,go kill them to change nothing" and/or "control X map with your guild for nothing other than bragging purposes". and thank them for that.

which is 0,01% of the content WoW or L2 has.

if Atlantica doesnt fall in that category (and all i saw makes me think it does) i'd be greatly surprised.

Kashis
07-29-2008, 02:47 PM
i never said anything about "owning",nor i put that words in your mouth. dont go there.

i wonder what "tons of content" have you found to compare it to L2 or WoW. that game has to be bigger than a fucking mammoth,if you found enough content in your....what? 15-20 levels?... to compare it to WoW. and i must be blind since i couldnt find any of that.

unless by content you mean "oh lawl kill mobs ,many different mobs...and buy swords,yup....and use spells,me lykes spells ya ya sir"...which is pretty much all i saw in the few hours i played.

is that your definition of content?

anyway,i can point you dozens if not hundreds of games where you see all the "content" they can offer in the first 20 levels,from then onwards and till the endgame its just the same shit repeated ad nauseam

if you are very very very very lucky,at the end you'll be given either "raid this 1-2 bosses forever", "pvp for NO specific reason other than:those are your enemies,go kill them to change nothing" and/or "control X map with your guild for nothing other than bragging purposes". and thank them for that.

which is 0,01% of the content WoW or L2 has.

if Atlantica doesnt fall in that category (and all i saw makes me think it does) i'd be greatly surprised.

The OP said in his/her review that guilds get exp, money and access to new mercs as your guild grows plus other features related to the population. That part at least sounds different than what you expect.

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Ding Ding Round 2

hyarume
07-29-2008, 02:55 PM
Ding Ding Round 2

Atlantica owns wow cause many games below already do.

Mintsong
07-29-2008, 02:58 PM
Atlantica owns wow cause many games below already do.

Shhh! Dont make all the WoW gamers come to Atlantica! :rofl:

MaexM
07-29-2008, 02:58 PM
Hey the server will be on only in August's beginning?

Mintsong
07-29-2008, 03:02 PM
Hey the server will be on only in August's beginning?

When CB2 starts the server will open again.
We dunno a final date yet, just Aug 08.

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 03:03 PM
Atlantica owns wow cause many games below already do.


WTF? why do i need to now that

Mintsong
07-29-2008, 03:04 PM
WTF? why do i need to now that

lol i was actually thinking about that also...
Maybe he found some secret connection with the Ding Ding and WoW :hmm:

PasH
07-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Wow.... and everyone blames the flame wars on the newbies...

Anyway, I really enjoyed Atlantica and Ima play it in CB2 with my new comp :>

hyarume
07-29-2008, 03:07 PM
No, its because the word WOW actualy means flame wars here..

Mintsong
07-29-2008, 03:09 PM
No, its because the word WOW actualy means flame wars here..

Make Love. Not War. O_o

AnimeminA
07-29-2008, 03:11 PM
No, its because the word WOW actualy means flame wars here..

sadly, i so have to agree with this. WoW is a taboo word here, it brings nothing but flame war. so do us all a favour and never speak of wow here or compare it with anything.

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 03:13 PM
i never said anything about "owning",nor i put that words in your mouth. dont go there.

i wonder what "tons of content" have you found to compare it to L2 or WoW. that game has to be bigger than a fucking mammoth,if you found enough content in your....what? 15-20 levels?... to compare it to WoW. and i must be blind since i couldnt find any of that.

unless by content you mean "oh lawl kill mobs ,many different mobs...and buy swords,yup....and use spells,me lykes spells ya ya sir"...which is pretty much all i saw in the few hours i played.

is that your definition of content?

anyway,i can point you dozens if not hundreds of games where you see all the "content" they can offer in the first 20 levels,from then onwards and till the endgame its just the same shit repeated ad nauseam

if you are very very very very lucky,at the end you'll be given either "raid this 1-2 bosses forever", "pvp for NO specific reason other than:those are your enemies,go kill them to change nothing" and/or "control X map with your guild for nothing other than bragging purposes". and thank them for that.

which is 0,01% of the content WoW or L2 has.

if Atlantica doesnt fall in that category (and all i saw makes me think it does) i'd be greatly surprised.

First of all, I played to level 60. I have read about the game, talked to korean friends who played/plays that version and so on and so forth. Even at 60 I was nowhere near 'endgame' as there was such an enormous amount of things I could chose to spend my time on in that game. I have played WoW endgame, L2 endgame on both official and in private servers with official-like rates and rules. I wouldn't compare content unless I knew the content of all the games I compared it with.

Also don't come and throw in random percentage numbers to strenghten your already crappy arguments.

What level did you play this game to? And how much do you actually know about the game yourself to say that my comparassions are wrong?


And oh, well this proves how much you know about this game and why you should not argue about it anymore.

"unless by content you mean "oh lawl kill mobs ,many different mobs...and buy swords,yup....and use spells,me lykes spells ya ya sir"...which is pretty much all i saw in the few hours i played. "

Oh noes! You didn't get to maximize all those 20+ craftings you can specialize on, get a town with a guild, managing that town (build buildings there, raising population etc), doing hard townquests together, pvp'ing in tournaments for prizes, playing all avalible merchants...in the first few hours that you played? Man that game must truly be shitty and have no content at all, since both WoW and L2 gives you maximum content in just a few hours, right?


/sarcasm

hyarume
07-29-2008, 03:15 PM
How Could u say that word?

nmmmym
07-29-2008, 04:33 PM
lol i only consider the 1st 4 hours of my gameplay as tutorial stage as it still explains certain functions to u. and at lvl 5x b4 the server closes my monster info was only less than 10% done. I gotta agree with swedishGeneral on his point of view in this game that Acr likterally know nth about this game and standing up for the other 2 games cos he might be a big fan of those 2 games and couldnt stand the games being called sucky thats all.

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 04:48 PM
@ lvl 20 there are still tutorials

ArcDevil
07-29-2008, 04:56 PM
First of all, I played to level 60. I have read about the game, talked to korean friends who played/plays that version and so on and so forth. Even at 60 I was nowhere near 'endgame' as there was such an enormous amount of things I could chose to spend my time on in that game. I have played WoW endgame, L2 endgame on both official and in private servers with official-like rates and rules. I wouldn't compare content unless I knew the content of all the games I compared it with.

Also don't come and throw in random percentage numbers to strenghten your already crappy arguments.

What level did you play this game to? And how much do you actually know about the game yourself to say that my comparassions are wrong?


And oh, well this proves how much you know about this game and why you should not argue about it anymore.

"unless by content you mean "oh lawl kill mobs ,many different mobs...and buy swords,yup....and use spells,me lykes spells ya ya sir"...which is pretty much all i saw in the few hours i played. "

Oh noes! You didn't get to maximize all those 20+ craftings you can specialize on, get a town with a guild, managing that town (build buildings there, raising population etc), doing hard townquests together, pvp'ing in tournaments for prizes, playing all avalible merchants...in the first few hours that you played? Man that game must truly be shitty and have no content at all, since both WoW and L2 gives you maximum content in just a few hours, right?


/sarcasm

yup,my excuses,i assume noone would have leveled any higher than 30 during a 10 day CBT. guess you are more suited than me to talk about that amazing content,even tho for some strange reason you fail to mention any that doesnt exists in every single crappy generic asian rpg released in the last 8 years and which is barely a 1% the content of a game like WoW.

btw,since your gonna ask anyway ,yes ,percentage pulled out of my ass....and totally correct,im afraid,what a great ass i have huh?

Popsai
07-29-2008, 05:00 PM
I am so gonna play this in OB

Hawkey
07-29-2008, 05:03 PM
There arent alot of turn based MMORPG's
And MMORPG's where you can play in europe, asia etc
and much more

"you fail to mention any that doesnt exists in every single crappy generic asian rpg released in the last 8 years and which is barely a 1% the content of a game like WoW. " <<<< lol

gokangster
07-29-2008, 05:29 PM
wtf are these people bitching about anyway....
all the non sence...
just wait for the game to go full luanch and cs to come out and
ull c if everything that was said here will be true or not.
eather way doesnt matter cuz the game is only CB.

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 05:35 PM
yup,my excuses,i assume noone would have leveled any higher than 30 during a 10 day CBT. guess you are more suited than me to talk about that amazing content,even tho for some strange reason you fail to mention any that doesnt exists in every single crappy generic asian rpg released in the last 8 years and which is barely a 1% the content of a game like WoW.

btw,since your gonna ask anyway ,yes ,percentage pulled out of my ass....and totally correct,im afraid,what a great ass i have huh?

I've played all those shitty asian generic mmo's aswell. And for Me, this isn't one of them.

Two examples are Rohan, which I played to level 66, Archlord to ~64 where I grinded my ass off in both and had ZERO fun while doing so, only to see if the game had anything to offer at higher levels, but it was the same shitty game even at high level. Atlantica wasn't that for me, I never even felt any grind in this game, it was FUN all the way to 60. 60 wasn't even high. There was MANY level 70+ in that game before CB1 ended.

This game is NOT like all those asian generic grindfests I have played through the years. This game to me, is very fun and I can play it both casual and hardcore and still have tons of fun.

And the auto-move feature is frickin godly, and that one doesn't exist in many other mmo's if you wanted some original feature. Same goes with their crafting and item system, their mentor/student system, their "Giving gifts to beginners" system which gives all of your characters a very large boost of experience points depending on the value of the gifts. High levels will find it worthwhile to help out random newbies with money and items worth a lot, for the experience points. They do it all the time in the korean version.

ArcDevil
07-29-2008, 05:36 PM
There arent alot of turn based MMORPG's
And MMORPG's where you can play in europe, asia etc
and much more

"you fail to mention any that doesnt exists in every single crappy generic asian rpg released in the last 8 years and which is barely a 1% the content of a game like WoW. " <<<< lol

so? being turn based isnt a content,at least not in this universe. where do you come from?

content is having 30+ endgame raid places,while this game probably has 3 or less
content is having 30+ high level bosses,while this game probably has 3 or less
content is having dozens of cities to fight for and capture,keeps,fronts,siege weapons, then do anything you want with them,set taxes,build and destroy things,whatever.while this game probably has a few of each if any at all.
content is customization,while this game practically has any
content is dozens of different sets every few levels plus hundreds of random gears,which this game fails to have and instead go with your typical +1+2+3+4....
content is having a totally different playstyle per archetype.if you are playing a tank you should never be doing exactly the same things and playing almost the same as being an archer,or a mage,or a knight. this game....yeah,you guessed it.

there are many things that qualify as content,and being turn based isnt one of them. at all

hope you have learned something today

Atlantica is awesome in what it has,and brings quite a few new things to the table. but lets get real,it cant be compared to the p2p giants. in fact it shouldnt be,to start with.
just be happy with what the game offers and play it

nmmmym
07-29-2008, 05:42 PM
"you fail to mention any that doesnt exists in every single crappy generic asian rpg released in the last 8 years and which is barely a 1% the content of a game like WoW. " <<<< lol



Just to name some features of those i can think of.

A very ancient game Elysium from a china company has this special skill system whereby whenever u get ur skill to a certain lvl (or was it a new skill slot opened to make a chained combo) u get to input a word to that skill. and by the end of the whole chain ur own skill name appears whenever u cast that spell. I wonder if that particular game has this function?

Another game by korea called cabal which i believe all of u would have known has this chain combo system where ur skill doesnt miss its target when used. I dont think that particular game has this too.

Hmm what about perfect world? It does have flying mounts and air battles. graphics are also competable with that game.

Doesnt mean a game by a big company who produces games that allows u to play a good game like dota can produce a good mmorpg, whats worse, they're charging ppl for it.

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 05:54 PM
so? being turn based isnt a content,at least not in this universe. where do you come from?

content is having 30+ endgame raid places,while this game probably has 3 or less

Wrong. The 'raiding' and bosskilling (which requires much strategy and tactics, and most of the time help from friends or your guild) starts early 20+, fairly easy there, but don't get me started on 40 and 50+ bosses such as Taraka, Naraka, Elizabeth. THEY are hard. You will find yourself testing out new tactics, upgrading your gear, asking for tips on how to beat the bosses and fail several times before succeding.


content is having 30+ high level bosses,while this game probably has 3 or less
Read above.


content is having dozens of cities to fight for and capture,keeps,fronts,siege weapons, then do anything you want with them,set taxes,build and destroy things,whatever.while this game probably has a few of each if any at all.
content is customization,while this game practically has any

Did you even press the "M" key to check the worldmap and the cities avalible, at the moment there are more than 50 towns if I recall correctly, and there are TONS of towns still not avalible in game, which will be avalible later on, as this is still an early beta-testing phase. You can control towns, take over towns, set taxes, construct buildings, do townquests, raise population and growth of the town, persuade wandering NPCs to go and see your town to raise your population etc.


content is dozens of different sets every few levels plus hundreds of random gears,which this game fails to have and instead go with your typical +1+2+3+4....

Again, this is only the case at early levels. At level 50+ you can start weilding different sets with different properteries, and they all vary in difficulty to obtain, depending on how good gear you want to have and how much time you are willing to spend on the gear. These weaponboxes and such are only overflowing at early levels. They are worth tons at level 50+ and are harder and harder to obtain. Rings for example can't even be obtained from normal monsters from what I have experienced, only through craft and the market, and getting +4-+6 rings is VERY hard and you need a lot of craftingluck. They are also VERY good and very expensive if you want to buy from the market.

content is having a totally different playstyle per archetype.if you are playing a tank you should never be doing exactly the same things and playing almost the same as being an archer,or a mage,or a knight. this game....yeah,you guessed it.

So, I take it you never figured out how to use formations, how to use 'guard', how to protect weaker members of your party with meatshields and how to calculate their AP (Action points/power) in order to maximize the effeciency during a fight. Also there are various secret combinations of spells/skills cast, that will create a completely new spell. Cast Hex with your shaman and Dark seed with your knight on a few mob and you'll create Dark flame, which is a very powerful DoT spell, for example.

ArcDevil
07-29-2008, 06:06 PM
its nice to know about the cities,that sure is a blast if all of them play a role and can be captured/sieged. the bosses and stuff on the other hand,imho it shows a big lack of content having the +1 +2 system and a couple of bosses each 10 levels...about formations,you are doing nothing,just preset styles that doesnt substitute for playing your main characters any differently.
the sinergy of skills,i give you that, excellent point.

actually,im not asking a lot for a f2p game,and what you name sounds enough.looks like you are right and Atlantica has more to offer than what meets the eye.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 06:06 PM
Oh, calling me child, saying i put my foot up my ass , isnt flaming?Again, learn to read. I didnt say it went up your ass. I said you stuck your foot in your mouth. And no, I was not flaming, as per definition of flaming. Calling someone a child and telling them they need to learn to shut up is not flaming.

Now if I said this (Example): You are a piece of s**t child, and you need to learn to shut your damn mouth.That would be flaming.

As by my words, I did not flame. You shoved your foot in your mouth so far, its coming out of your ass... It does not say youre an ass, nor does it say, you shoved your foot up your ass. Comprehension is something you need to learn. Please do so.

OT: When is CB 2 going to start and has a wipe occurred? Last time I read news about the wipe, there was a possibility of it not happening if they got 10K in server population.

its nice to know about the cities,that sure is a blast if all of them play a role and can be captured/sieged. the bosses and stuff on the other hand,imho it shows a big lack of content having the +1 +2 system and a couple of bosses each 10 levels...about formations,you are doing nothing,just preset styles that doesnt substitute for playing your main characters any differently.
the sinergy of skills,i give you that, excellent point.

actually,im not asking a lot for a f2p game,and what you name sounds enough.looks like you are right and Atlantica has more to offer than what meets the eye.Exactly how I feel...+1r to you.

LOL that rep I gave you went from 15 to 20. I really want to know how this rep system works.

frequency
07-29-2008, 06:11 PM
this game is fun, most ive played for a very long time.

thats all i need to know.

btw i really doubt they are going to have mercenaries in cash shop but if they do it would probably also be available to all players like most of the items in the cash shop are.

as for content, this game is still NEW. it probably does not have as much content as most mmo's that have been here for 4 years+ in the market. so relax and sit back and enjoy the game as is.

and it can be compared to p2p giants, because people have different preferences.

Nakamura
07-29-2008, 06:11 PM
They said CB2 is going to start sometimes in August. And yes, there will be a wipe. And since it's another phase of CB, i'm guessing there will also be another wipe at the end of CB2 (haven't checked their forums this morning so don't bite me if this last bit of guessing falls wrong)

They barely got to 5k players at the end of CB1 :/. The game has a lot of potential though and I hope it does grow to 10k or even beyond.

cyber7chink
07-29-2008, 06:13 PM
They said CB2 is going to start sometimes in August. And yes, there will be a wipe. And since it's another phase of CB, i'm guessing there will also be another wipe at the end of CB2 (haven't checked their forums this morning so don't bite me if this last bit of guessing falls wrong)

They barely got to 5k players at the end of CB1 :/. The game has a lot of potential though and I hope it does grow to 10k or even beyond. Thanks for the info... +1r.

SwedishGeneral
07-29-2008, 06:14 PM
its nice to know about the cities,that sure is a blast if all of them play a role and can be captured/sieged. the bosses and stuff on the other hand,imho it shows a big lack of content having the +1 +2 system and a couple of bosses each 10 levels...about formations,you are doing nothing,just preset styles that doesnt substitute for playing your main characters any differently.
the sinergy of skills,i give you that, excellent point.

actually,im not asking a lot for a f2p game,and what you name sounds enough.looks like you are right and Atlantica has more to offer than what meets the eye.

As for the preset thing and doing nothing about formation, is also wrong ;)

That's also pre-50. You can and will have to move your characters while in battle, to protect them from dying while waiting for a heal and such, if you want to succed. I'm not trying to praise the game above any other game that exists, I'm just trying to explain why I am impressed by it, and why I like it. Even my girlfriend loves it and she hasn't played any MMO with me for like 4 years. This one she actually did play and enjoy : )

But one thing is a fact, it does have content, and you don't have to grind your ass off for three months straight to reach that content.

malfion
07-29-2008, 06:39 PM
If they had Mercs in Cash Shop, this game would just be

Sword of the New World:Tactical Espionage

AnimeminA
07-29-2008, 06:56 PM
i dont' think they will sell mercenaries as cash item, although is is possible they will. i just hope they sell costumes.

MoonSoul
07-29-2008, 07:00 PM
If they had Mercs in Cash Shop, this game would just be

Sword of the New World:Tactical Espionage

Lol'd hard.

Btw @SweedishGeneral , if you mix Dark seed and hex of darkness in a different order it'll also create Hell flame(if I'm not mistaken, that was what it was named in the KR version) which is also a DoT spell above the average.

lab9
07-29-2008, 07:13 PM
http://www.warcry.com/news/view/85292-Atlantica-Online-Beta-Information

August 7th 2008 Closed Beta Round 2
Fear my blue name.
I like this game alot, anyone know any more info on the spells combos? PvP is so munch fun!! It can get really intense.
Treasure Map hunting is insane hard, the rewards are awesome tho.

E-123 Omega
07-29-2008, 07:15 PM
Lol. Cant reveal my sources.

When you see Im right, what do I win? Some cookies?


Eh, they already said that the CashShop will only have simple things like Auto-Walk scrolls, Auto-Battle scrolls, Potions that can reset characters stats or change your main character into a different main character.

AND if there is a potion that resets a Mercs age, more power to those who buy it... because they've already said when an age grows older and dies, they get either Reborn into a newer STRONGER merc, or they have like a Mate option to create a newer stronger merc.

I'm not worried about any of those auto things, even the Auto-Battle... the AI for auto-battle is a 75% chance that you will be killed against mobs the same level as you.

I know they will make a profit with only items like this anyhow, because of all the people who were going on and on about not being able to live without auto-walk and Teleport.

EDIT: How do you add to people's reputation? As for the aging system, or whatever, they've been discussing it on the atlantica Forums for some time. I guess I wouldn't really mind if you got a stronger Merc out of the one that was dying.

lab9
07-29-2008, 07:24 PM
http://www.warcry.com/news/view/85292-Atlantica-Online-Beta-Information

August 7th 2008 Closed Beta Round 2
Fear my blue name.
I like this game alot, anyone know any more info on the spells combos? PvP is so munch fun!! It can get really intense.
Treasure Map hunting is insane hard, the rewards are awesome tho.


Update on Closed Beta Round 2, I heard MMOsite said the relaunch would be the 5th, so nothing is set in concrete.:hmm:

nmmmym
07-29-2008, 09:01 PM
Lol'd hard.

Btw @SweedishGeneral , if you mix Dark seed and hex of darkness in a different order it'll also create Hell flame(if I'm not mistaken, that was what it was named in the KR version) which is also a DoT spell above the average.


In any order is possible. Just make sure u cast the 2nd spell on the same target the 1st spell was used b4 the effects run out.

Anrick
07-29-2008, 11:00 PM
I think they wanna do a cb2 for something related to stress test of their servers..

Since they said that Cb1 didnt had enough users.

I can say that if the game didnt required shader, it would have alot more players on Cb1.

ragnarok214
07-29-2008, 11:01 PM
so i came across this post while searching for stuff on atlantica, and i decided to read it since i have nothing better to do until atlantica reopens.

just had to register to say something.

arcdevil, you are a good example of the ignorant unimaginative WoW fanboys that consider themselves to be experts on MMOs.

almost everything you have said is just the opposite in atlantica. and you would know if you just played the game instead of making assumptions and accusations that this is just another korean grindfest. instead, you do make those accusations and you just end up making yourself look dumb.

it's just ridiculous.

GoldenArrow
07-30-2008, 10:03 PM
The cash shop will have must buy items though.. So if you are planning to go fully F2P be prepared for some great features missing.

So far what you have to buy from the shop are Auto-Move license & Teleport license. Becouse these make the game much more playable. Merc rooms are also quite useful when it comes to PvP since sometime you need to change mercs on the basis what your enemy has. There isn't a single setup that would beat everything else :/
Also bags are sold through cash shop which are optional but again provide a nice feature in the game 8)
Also there will be sold battle scrolls(atleast someone from the korean server said this) which give a huge advantage in PvP in case you have some $$$'s to spare...

There were "permanent" licenses in the help menu on CB1 so I supposed these will be sold through the item mall once launched and as I'm hoping with an investment of 100$ or so I'll be able to enjoy the game fully till the servers go down or I'll go down.

I just hope they won't mess up it with too high prices or highly unbalance items (for example top-notch battle scrolls). I'd be extremely annoyed to lose a final fight in a tournament to some rich bastard who spams me to hell with cash shop battle scrolls :P

Hawkey
07-30-2008, 10:16 PM
you can just buy those scrolls an licenses @the market

GoldenArrow
07-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Most likely 1 to 7 day licenses with a huge price. Not to mention how much effort it takes to create tons of batte scrolls. Besides I doubt they'll put the licenses to market when launched. ;p

Espio0
07-30-2008, 10:32 PM
best MMO ive played in months seriously

great gameplay
great graphics
nice party system

and great music

like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9REKHJ5mo

i made it with windows movie maker, its the best battle song out of atlantica

Haku_Honjo
07-30-2008, 10:41 PM
I hope our blue names travel to live servers.