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    What's a good non-jungle hecarim build? Wriggles -> merc treads -> tri force -> atmogs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by korncob View Post
    What's a good non-jungle hecarim build? Wriggles -> merc treads -> tri force -> atmogs?
    I like to go Doran's Shield, Philosopher Stone, Avarice Blade, Boots, Sheen, Phage, Triforce. Upgrade Avarice to Youmou's Ghost Blade, Upgrade Boots to Mercury's Treads. Then a combination of whatever 2 health and armor is needed. Shurelia too somewhere in there. I sometime will get that other thing for tenacity instead of the boots.

    For stupid burst damage proc shurelia, youmou, e, and ghost. Press q now and then to proc sheen. Everything dead.

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    Any tips on how to deal with fizz at mid? Normally, once the enemy fizz turns to level 6 he just tears me apart or any good counters for fizz?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMage View Post
    Any tips on how to deal with fizz at mid? Normally, once the enemy fizz turns to level 6 he just tears me apart or any good counters for fizz?
    You have to be really aggressive from level 1-2, because there aren't a whole lot of people who can out trade him from level 3+.

    Also he can't push at all early game, so abuse that and shove the lane. He can choose to lose cs to the tower, or freeze the lane and take creep damage. If he tries to harass, you should win trades with creep aggro.

    As for actual counterpicks, you have to either match his burst/mobility, outrange him completely, or push really hard. Sustain is almost irrelevant in this matchup for obvious reasons, but if you have sustain it can help. Xerath and Zil are great against him with their range and pushing. Panth is probably one of the hardest counters due to his strong ranged harass, cc, and passive blocking q. Galio does well because he thrives from building mr and healing off DoT, and can push fairly well. Akali, GP and Renekton all have sustain and can match him in mobility, as well as having strong damage right from level 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMage View Post
    Any tips on how to deal with fizz at mid? Normally, once the enemy fizz turns to level 6 he just tears me apart or any good counters for fizz?
    Magic Resist, baiting Playful/Trickster, stuns, Cleanse/QSS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolRawrrr View Post
    y u no post w/l
    What's the point exactly? It's just normals and It's heavily skewed since I only play with at least 1 other friend.

    I'm at something 500 wins and 300 losses, If you're that interested.

    http://www.lolking.net/summoner/eune/19739070

    Hmm, close to 600 now.


    Galio legendary before Pulzefire Ezreal? Seems legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    What's the point exactly? It's just normals and It's heavily skewed since I only play with at least 1 other friend.

    I'm at something 500 wins and 300 losses, If you're that interested.

    http://www.lolking.net/summoner/eune/19739070

    Hmm, close to 600 now.


    Galio legendary before Pulzefire Ezreal? Seems legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMage View Post
    Any tips on how to deal with fizz at mid? Normally, once the enemy fizz turns to level 6 he just tears me apart or any good counters for fizz?
    JUMP ON YO STAFF.

    oh wait you're not fizz. basically just try to keep distance while you're trying to farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErickDamon View Post
    I like to go Doran's Shield, Philosopher Stone, Avarice Blade, Boots, Sheen, Phage, Triforce. Upgrade Avarice to Youmou's Ghost Blade, Upgrade Boots to Mercury's Treads. Then a combination of whatever 2 health and armor is needed. Shurelia too somewhere in there. I sometime will get that other thing for tenacity instead of the boots.

    For stupid burst damage proc shurelia, youmou, e, and ghost. Press q now and then to proc sheen. Everything dead.
    lol this build is actually fun as hell, even if the damage gets kinda eh towards the end. I went for maw of malmortus after tri/shur/ghostblade but I guess the point of the build is for initiation?

    Edit : I take all that back, the burst with ghost/ghostblade/shurelia/E is incredibly amazing xD it's so much fun....gives you a ton of mobility as well but a banshee's seems almost required because you can get shutdown pretty easily.
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    Ninja edit,

    Lost with udyr top against the new champ for the first few levels; insane burst on him.

    Then i got turtle maxed and wrigles and never left the lane again.

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    http://www.twitch.tv/matryshkah

    streaming solo ranked, playing malph top atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by korncob View Post
    lol this build is actually fun as hell, even if the damage gets kinda eh towards the end. I went for maw of malmortus after tri/shur/ghostblade but I guess the point of the build is for initiation?

    Edit : I take all that back, the burst with ghost/ghostblade/shurelia/E is incredibly amazing xD it's so much fun....gives you a ton of mobility as well but a banshee's seems almost required because you can get shutdown pretty easily.
    Haha yeah. Is why I roll with 21 or so in Defense. I got the idea from using Wukong and Xin. Glad it worked out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolRawrrr View Post
    http://www.twitch.tv/matryshkah

    streaming solo ranked, playing malph top atm
    are u on europe west?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzmaster View Post
    are u on europe west?
    pretty sure rawr is on NA, like Olaph and I.


    Guyyyssssss why does mundo have to drop off so hard late game, least in team fights? Maybe I'm not quite fighting properly but I do wonderfully early-mid, but if the game drags on i keep getting worse and worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acreon View Post
    pretty sure rawr is on NA, like Olaph and I.


    Guyyyssssss why does mundo have to drop off so hard late game, least in team fights? Maybe I'm not quite fighting properly but I do wonderfully early-mid, but if the game drags on i keep getting worse and worse.
    I feel the same way about him..

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    Platinum!!
    League of Legends ign = Leaguesoflegends 1755 ELO Current ELO: 2012 June 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by manamana12 View Post


    Platinum!!
    Nice!!
    I haven't really done much ranked yet, not until I've finished both my rune sets.

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    Also i really wish they'd give Fiddle just the slightest buff.
    mostly just his passive and darkwind, I was thinking something like:

    Dread: Fiddlesticks' enemies are so filled with fear that their resistance to his CC effects are reduced by 10/20/30%
    It would no longer be a stupid giant *** aura that says "hey i'm right here!!, totally not gonna ult in and gank you or anything" and it also would still fit the premise of his passive instilling so much dread into his enemies that they can't even move.

    Dark Wind: Only issue I have with it is the CD and that it doesn't become stronger vs only one target. No idea what to do to it's cd, but was thinking that if darkwind strikes a single target that the damage be tripled(like if it had struck only 2 target) and the silence increased to 2.4 seconds.(as 3.6 seconds is stupid, considering his fear)

    Thoughts? Trying to not make him OP but i figured I'd be a little creative with the passive, and darkwind is just copying morde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manamana12 View Post


    Platinum!!
    congratz do you play on europe or na?

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    I climbed out from 800 elo and now am at 1187. NEED TO GET OUT OF ELO HELL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZormaX View Post
    I climbed out from 800 elo and now am at 1187. NEED TO GET OUT OF ELO HELL
    Enjoy. ELO Hell exists from like 100 to 2500. This entire season was horribly done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzmaster View Post
    congratz do you play on europe or na?
    I am from na.
    League of Legends ign = Leaguesoflegends 1755 ELO Current ELO: 2012 June 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acreon View Post
    Also i really wish they'd give Fiddle just the slightest buff.
    mostly just his passive and darkwind, I was thinking something like:

    Dread: Fiddlesticks' enemies are so filled with fear that their resistance to his CC effects are reduced by 10/20/30%
    It would no longer be a stupid giant *** aura that says "hey i'm right here!!, totally not gonna ult in and gank you or anything" and it also would still fit the premise of his passive instilling so much dread into his enemies that they can't even move.

    Dark Wind: Only issue I have with it is the CD and that it doesn't become stronger vs only one target. No idea what to do to it's cd, but was thinking that if darkwind strikes a single target that the damage be tripled(like if it had struck only 2 target) and the silence increased to 2.4 seconds.(as 3.6 seconds is stupid, considering his fear)

    Thoughts? Trying to not make him OP but i figured I'd be a little creative with the passive, and darkwind is just copying morde.
    Honestly? He doesn't need a buff at all. He was pretty damn strong way back then and really needed to be toned down hard. He's in a good spot right now as an AP mid. Jungling wise? That nerf to his drain kinda screwed him over but it was pretty necessary, I mean hell he could literally drain Dragon down by level 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeonswitch View Post
    Enjoy. ELO Hell exists from like 100 to 2500. This entire season was horribly done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jermatoo View Post
    Honestly? He doesn't need a buff at all. He was pretty damn strong way back then and really needed to be toned down hard. He's in a good spot right now as an AP mid. Jungling wise? That nerf to his drain kinda screwed him over but it was pretty necessary, I mean hell he could literally drain Dragon down by level 7.
    I suppose, just his passive I hate ever so =|

    Also, i know it was bots but SHIT did I shut vladimir down hard as garen.
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