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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    Are they serious? Annie has horrible range and they still want to nerf that?
    Annie's AA is outrageously long compared to most ranged AP champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkness35 View Post
    Annie's AA is outrageously long compared to most ranged AP champions.
    Yeah, the auto attack. As if it really poses a damage threat to other champions----unless she has a Lich bane. I just find that odd. Her skill range is horrible and she is squishy. It's a challenge to kite and poke other champions then they want to nerf the AA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    Yeah, the auto attack. As if it really poses a damage threat to other champions----unless she has a Lich bane. I just find that odd. Her skill range is horrible and she is squishy. It's a challenge to kite and poke other champions then they want to nerf the AA?
    My point is that you're assuming the range is horrible when in fact she has the largest AA range already compared to other ADCs and mid champions. You also fail to realize that even if you're a mid champion, you still AA as a means to get free harass in zoning out, CSing, and chipping the enemy's health. Most supports don't even have the luxury of having a huge AA range, especially the likes of Thresh and most melee supports. I personally hate the fact that classic mid champions have been nerfed so hard because they're unconventionally being played as support. It's stupidly annoying.

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    Yey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    Yeah, the auto attack. As if it really poses a damage threat to other champions----unless she has a Lich bane. I just find that odd. Her skill range is horrible and she is squishy. It's a challenge to kite and poke other champions then they want to nerf the AA?
    Umm... her autoattack range is pretty good in lane. You really underestimate the amount of damage from autoattacks in the early game. AA harass is core on almost any ranged mage in laning phase, and Annie does it really well.

    It's really good cos just think of it, she's only 25 range below Caitlyn, who is known for her long range. She basically outranges most supports by almost 75-100+ range (see Janna with 475, Sona 550). 575 STILL outranges them, but it isn't as obnoxious now~

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    Did they by any chance change the range on her skills?

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    I don't think so. I've no access to PBE so I'm just reading info from the patch notes...

    Honestly Annie's hard to balance as support without affecting her mid alot, she pretty much only has her stun and straight up burst damage. I guess the nerfing of her AA range makes her more reliant on her spells (hence less impact on mid Annie and more on support Annie as support Annie doesn't build mana regen like Chalice early so can't use spells as often).

    Her spells now outrange her AA's if I'm not mistaken (625 range on Q/W and 600 on Tibbers). It shouldn't affect her last hitting too much as she can still use Q for it~

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkness35 View Post
    You also fail to realize that even if you're a mid champion, you still AA as a means to get free harass in zoning out, CSing, and chipping the enemy's health. Most supports don't even have the luxury of having a huge AA range, especially the likes of Thresh and most melee supports. I personally hate the fact that classic mid champions have been nerfed so hard because they're unconventionally being played as support. It's stupidly annoying.
    While I agree with what you said about mid-laners being forced to play support I don't agree completely with your comment about harassing using AA. This is maybe because we have different playing styles. When I play mid, I focuses on CS. CS=gold. The more gold I have, the faster I can equip items for Annie. I even use her skills to rack my CS. Yes, poking or kiting is good too but if your opponent knows how to play annie, they usually know the range of her AA and her skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senna View Post
    Umm... her autoattack range is pretty good in lane. You really underestimate the amount of damage from autoattacks in the early game. AA harass is core on almost any ranged mage in laning phase, and Annie does it really well.

    It's really good cos just think of it, she's only 25 range below Caitlyn, who is known for her long range. She basically outranges most supports by almost 75-100+ range (see Janna with 475, Sona 550). 575 STILL outranges them, but it isn't as obnoxious now~

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    While I agree with what you said about mid-laners being forced to play support I don't agree completely with your comment about harassing using AA. This is maybe because we have different playing styles. When I play mid, I focuses on CS. CS=gold. The more gold I have, the faster I can equip items for Annie. I even use her skills to rack my CS. Yes, poking or kiting is good too but if your opponent knows how to play annie, they usually know the range of her AA and her skills.
    A good mid player does both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    While I agree with what you said about mid-laners being forced to play support I don't agree completely with your comment about harassing using AA. This is maybe because we have different playing styles. When I play mid, I focuses on CS. CS=gold. The more gold I have, the faster I can equip items for Annie. I even use her skills to rack my CS. Yes, poking or kiting is good too but if your opponent knows how to play annie, they usually know the range of her AA and her skills.
    If you're wasting all your mana trying to last hit, no wonder you don't harass people. Annie should only really need to use Q and autos to last hit. And still it's very important for her to harass the enemy since Annie's burst is pretty good. Get them down to 50% HP and you basically force them to go back or die~

    As darkness35 said a good mid player needs to be able to CS and harass at the same time.

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    any good yas tutorial videos out there that you guys would recommend i watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reduke View Post
    any good yas tutorial videos out there that you guys would recommend i watch?
    http://tinyurl.com/y8ufsnp
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    Oh dear lawd.

    What is up with ranked and all the kids? Whenever I win 1 game, im sure to lose the next 2/3 games because of trolls.

    Last game, this Czech guy instantlocked teemo while he had to go support. he then decided to go top. And he didnt say 1 word troughout the game, he build tear of goddes and the g5 item and never left top. We won the game upto 30 min, and we had most of their towers down. but then the other team just snowballed cause they did more damage and had leona support.


    best part was: when they were pushing nexus, teemo responded: want to learn lucian a lesson for insta locking. REALLY? why the **** you do this kind of crap in ranked, people like that should be perm ip banned.



    Hahah this guy is hilarious, I laughed out loud when he ulti'd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVPU-9B4_zQ his other videos are hilarious aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarMa View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna View Post
    If you're wasting all your mana trying to last hit, no wonder you don't harass people. Annie should only really need to use Q and autos to last hit. And still it's very important for her to harass the enemy since Annie's burst is pretty good. Get them down to 50% HP and you basically force them to go back or die~

    As darkness35 said a good mid player needs to be able to CS and harass at the same time.
    I usually harass them when I'm at level 3 for a good damage burst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    I usually harass them when I'm at level 3 for a good damage burst.
    Depends on what champion however. But you always should be harassing. Just waiting at level wouldn't do much compared to constantly harassing whenever you can and then instead of doing damage, you ****ing kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalager View Post
    I usually harass them when I'm at level 3 for a good damage burst.
    If you'd harass them with AA's till lv 3 THEN do your burst with spells I bet you might kill a few more people than usual.

    It all depends on the matchup however. Annie at present basically outranges most mids by a large amount with her AA, not using it to harass is really a waste~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna View Post
    If you'd harass them with AA's till lv 3 THEN do your burst with spells I bet you might kill a few more people than usual.

    It all depends on the matchup however. Annie at present basically outranges most mids by a large amount with her AA, not using it to harass is really a waste~
    ad runes annie + dorans blade = force out of lane at level 1, then again at 2, and finally they at 3 and by then they are so far behind they will afk or jungle will camp you

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    What the flying actual **** are they doing to Lee Sin, holy shit....


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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonSoul View Post
    What the flying actual **** are they doing to Lee Sin, holy shit....
    ree singah so op must snowubaru early game or fall behind so we just ruin every stage of the game for him
    glory to riotstotzka

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    Teaching GF who has never really played a game like LoL is going to be... fun.


    Meanwhile..


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    I feel bad for laughing at this..

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    Oh men. even at this hour. 2 many trolls.

    Fiddle support going 0/13, he did that for science reasons.


    Whats the best way to raise MMR, should I drop back to silver 1, and dodge promotions a few times?
    Im stuck in G5 cause I lose 21 lp when I gain only 13/14 lp. I'm pretty sure I'd be able to get plat if my mmr was back to where it belongs.

    Any tips on how to get a good MMR again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaime View Post
    I feel bad for laughing at this..

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    he flip a minion on a pro game xD

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