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    Warwick can out duel an eve easily, she's strong but not over powered unlike people like Hecarim or Sona xD

    Pretty sure it's fine the way it is now, a few strong champs that still do well but still killable, Like Ezreal.
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    I hate the new Gragas. He became a boring and generic tank that has no damage. His damage only comes from E > auto attack from W > and Q. It works early game but then it becomes absolutely useless mid to late game. He just becomes some random sponge who does no damage, the damage reduction is too low of a duration, and his damage is absolutely laughable. Even if you built full AP to try and do damage, and you get all items, you won't even bring down the enemy ADC to less than half health. He's absolute dogshiit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    I hate the new Gragas. He became a boring and generic tank that has no damage. His damage only comes from E > auto attack from W > and Q. It works early game but then it becomes absolutely useless mid to late game. He just becomes some random sponge who does no damage, the damage reduction is too low of a duration, and his damage is absolutely laughable. Even if you built full AP to try and do damage, and you get all items, you won't even bring down the enemy ADC to less than half health. He's absolute dogshiit.
    He can do pretty decent damage, but he's not able to one-shot squishies with his Q R combo now. Which is better IMO, old Gragas had way too much damage and utility. I don't miss seeing him in pro level play.

    One thing people need to do is stop building/playing him like the old Gragas, he's nothing like that now. Also, he's probably not the highest burst anymore, or tankiest choice right now, so he's kinda excelling at nothing, so I don't expect people to continue playing him~~

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    soo all you just did was say hes trash now in a nicer way then the above poster. k

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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    I hate the new Gragas. He became a boring and generic tank that has no damage. His damage only comes from E > auto attack from W > and Q. It works early game but then it becomes absolutely useless mid to late game. He just becomes some random sponge who does no damage, the damage reduction is too low of a duration, and his damage is absolutely laughable. Even if you built full AP to try and do damage, and you get all items, you won't even bring down the enemy ADC to less than half health. He's absolute dogshiit.
    This is exactly why he was nerfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noatud View Post
    soo all you just did was say hes trash now in a nicer way then the above poster. k
    Stop acting smart. There is a difference between trash and no longer being top pick. As darkness35 said he was nerfed for a good reason. Just because he isn't op anymore doesn't make him trash. In pro level play people won't play him much precisely cos there are better burst picks, and better tanky ap picks available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna View Post
    Stop acting smart. There is a difference between trash and no longer being top pick. As darkness35 said he was nerfed for a good reason. Just because he isn't op anymore doesn't make him trash. In pro level play people won't play him much precisely cos there are better burst picks, and better tanky ap picks available.
    It doesn't make any sense though. So what? If someone in pro play just completely shits on someone they need to get nerfed? Because boy theres quite a few champs that deserve to get the shit beat out of them with the nerf hammer if thats the case. I bet you also thought Rengar's gutting was necessary when Kha'zix was and is still known to shit on and snowball harder yet he hasn't gotten a single nerf past the tower damage reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jermatoo View Post
    It doesn't make any sense though. So what? If someone in pro play just completely shits on someone they need to get nerfed? Because boy theres quite a few champs that deserve to get the shit beat out of them with the nerf hammer if thats the case. I bet you also thought Rengar's gutting was necessary when Kha'zix was and is still known to shit on and snowball harder yet he hasn't gotten a single nerf past the tower damage reduction.
    I don't have an opinion on rengar. But khazix did get a mini-rework. He has less burst now. He used to evolve q first for burst but now its better for him to evolve ult since the burst on his q got reduced.

    Riot tends to hate champs who can 100-0 people with no time to react. See Gragas, Ahri, Zed, Rengar. This is why they all got nerfed. I love Ahri, yet I understand why they nerfed her, even if now she is In a bad spot. Same thing is happening to Gragas and Rengar now. Deal with it.

    Being able to 100-0 people with Q-R combo as Gragas isn't good for the game. Same with Rengar triple-Q spam~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkness35 View Post
    This is exactly why he was nerfed.
    I see... so it's not ok to kill an ADC with 2 skill shot reliant abilities but it's ok for LeBlanc to do the same thing with 3 button presses and travels halfway up the lane in 2 seconds before anyone can react.

    We're also talking about full item builds at end game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna View Post
    I don't have an opinion on rengar. But khazix did get a mini-rework. He has less burst now. He used to evolve q first for burst but now its better for him to evolve ult since the burst on his q got reduced.

    Riot tends to hate champs who can 100-0 people with no time to react. See Gragas, Ahri, Zed, Rengar. This is why they all got nerfed. I love Ahri, yet I understand why they nerfed her, even if now she is In a bad spot. Same thing is happening to Gragas and Rengar now. Deal with it.

    Being able to 100-0 people with Q-R combo as Gragas isn't good for the game. Same with Rengar triple-Q spam~~
    Kha'zix mini-rework? LOL, yeah right. He's still ridiculously OP because of his mobility and his single target burst with the ability to clear jungle and gank with great amounts of success, dive turrets and get out safely, damage reduction on his ult, etc. Ahri was nerfed AGES ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    Kha'zix mini-rework? LOL, yeah right. He's still ridiculously OP because of his mobility and his single target burst with the ability to clear jungle and gank with great amounts of success, dive turrets and get out safely, damage reduction on his ult, etc. Ahri was nerfed AGES ago.

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    kha'zix is shit in any lane outside of the jungle now, though.
    he used to be able to top/mid AND jungle and win every lane.

    gragas is pretty decent jungle pick now, because his early gank pressure is insane. slow + stun is too much cc for level 1-5.

    oh, and about your leblanc comment..
    don't talk nonsense, gragas needed roughly 300 ap to Q R someone at lv 11 that wasn't building tank.
    leblanc is a top pick because she requires actual SKILL to play, sure her w e q r may kill ONE squishy, but then she used all of her abilities to delete ONE target, meanwhile gragas essentially destroyed 3 out of 5 members with his q r.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    Kha'zix mini-rework? LOL, yeah right. He's still ridiculously OP because of his mobility and his single target burst with the ability to clear jungle and gank with great amounts of success, dive turrets and get out safely, damage reduction on his ult, etc. Ahri was nerfed AGES ago.

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    You don't get it, do you? Riot thinks Kha'zix is a better assassin right now cos he can't kill squishies in a single second. Now it involves him using his stealth multiple times while chasing down a target. That takes time. And time allows for counterplay (i.e. your target actually might get away/people might get there in time to help counter-gank).

    It's the same reason Zed isn't nerfed as hard as say, Gragas. Cos Zed's Death Mark procs a few seconds later, you have a short window to prevent the damage (Zhonyas, QSS, ults like Kayle's, dodging his spells)

    Rengar and Gragas both have the ability to instantly burst someone from 100-0 (from very far range for Gragas, and from invis for Rengar). There's no time to react, hence it's not fun for the victim. They also have severely overloaded kits. So they got reworked.

    This is what Morello had to say about Rengar, and even has a little about Gragas in there:

    http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/04...atch.html#more

    http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/03...fing.html#more

    Anyway, they're still tuning both Rengar/Gragas (read the page). So stop acting like it's the end of the world. I know it's frustrating when it's a champ you love that's being nerfed/reworked (I hate it when Sona/Ahri/Nid get nerfed), but you just have to accept it, Riot doesn't want that sort of gameplay (they're looking into Nid spears right now as we speak).

    Chill out a little~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna View Post
    Stop acting smart. There is a difference between trash and no longer being top pick. As darkness35 said he was nerfed for a good reason. Just because he isn't op anymore doesn't make him trash. In pro level play people won't play him much precisely cos there are better burst picks, and better tanky ap picks available.
    Ignore him. He's just some retarded poster that comes and makes one liners.

    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    I see... so it's not ok to kill an ADC with 2 skill shot reliant abilities but it's ok for LeBlanc to do the same thing with 3 button presses and travels halfway up the lane in 2 seconds before anyone can react.

    We're also talking about full item builds at end game.
    He still was able to do it early game at the same time. Sure it's fun for you to just faceroll as gragas and having that satisfaction, but let's face it, it's not fun for the lane opponent AND the other team. Being able to do that =/= to fun and strategic at all.

    Edit: I'd like to elaborate the issue with Gragas even more. The issue with Gragas is that he's untouchable, has mobility (I want to say because he can use body slam as a means to escape or gapclose with his ult), and he just does ridiculously amount of damage freely without any punishment. The first two is pretty much the big reason why Gragas is downright frustrating to play. He DOESN'T NEED TO GO IN and initiate, he just stays in the back. You cannot just close in and kill Gragas first when he's protected by other members of his team. If you want to talk about end-game build, he's just unkillable and will do damage that can kill a tank easily.

    If you want to say end-game build, let's just look at the core items you already want.

    -> Athene -> Deathcap - > Zhonya - > Void - > Mpen boots -> ****ifiknowthelastbuildmaybelichbane?

    And let's just look at the items once you have a Athene, Dcap/zhonya, and Void. You already are doing enough damage as is without adding the final few items.
    Last edited by darkness35; 04-11-2014 at 11:05 PM.

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    http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/04...be-update.html
    Christ, once again Riot lies out their ass and made Twitch look Skaven as shit. I honestly hate how generic his new voice is even now. Doubt I'll ever get over it.

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    New Twitch is awesome though.


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    My friends going to PAX and cosplaying and bragging how he has a Pulsefire Ezreal figure. And skin codes



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    Sounds like you should've gone yourself then if you care that much. Only thing I really cared about was another ward skin and a friend of mine was nice enough to give me his. He only wanted the free champs you get with the skin codes.

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    No monies bro. Or outfit. A couple of friends went and got those goodies as cosplayers.


    Also keep in mind the tickets sold out 30 minutes after they were available

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    LOL.

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    Well i dont miss URf vs players because you have to play a OP but vs BOTs was more fun i want a hard mode vs URF bots

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    Rofl darkness35 love that sig haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by scionXD View Post
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    Feral Flare Nautilus though...

    Pretty legit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystryx View Post
    Warwick can out duel an eve easily, she's strong but not over powered unlike people like Hecarim or Sona xD

    Pretty sure it's fine the way it is now, a few strong champs that still do well but still killable, Like Ezreal.
    Did you take a look at the new Warwick rework?

    My god, his Q procs on-hit effect twice and his E is some weird mobility skill where he bounces like a bo****ang.

    Apparently, they want to pigeon hole him into a jungler though... RIP Warwick top lane.
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