Last edited by Arcon; 02-07-2012 at 08:56 AM.
Movement speed is a overpowered and flawed mechanic in the current meta.
Stop being so ignorant and actually think about it. Theorycraft a bit. Early game if you don't have any type of slow (even stuns work work unless you have a jungler waiting to gank) the enemy will get away. Do you have any idea how good Teemo is right now? With MSQs and his W he can just kite you to death. If your Yi, Irelia, or anyone with a dash he Q's you, hits you once and runs. And he will almost always get away, unless he gets perma slowed.
Why are AoE slows like Lee Sins E so strong? Why is Nunu considered a strong and viable pick? Nasus's witter, etc. Because they can basically perma slow you. If you get perma slowed there is no way you are getting away. If you get stunned, you take some damage and if you have more movement speed then the enemy then you'll get away.
No idea how that works out, but apparently it does.
**information from stonewall008, while some would speak against him, he does have good jungle experience**Originally Posted by Jungle tier list RoG
Skarner is the biggest villain in this though if you're gonna talk about permaslows, since he's the only champion in the game where that's actually possible, without investing into full CDR of course. And it's AoE, so that makes it even better. On top of this he does have a speedboost, so I think using Skarner would be better to drive your argument since he embodies both sides of the issue.
And certain items do make a big impact on those things as well. Frozen mallet lets you stick on your target without them having any means of escaping unless they can dash/blink/flash over a wall or something. And Shurelia's reverie boosts movespeed to your entire team, letting you engage with little effort, and it can let you escape an engagement as well.
Just some ramblings of a deranged lunatic.
Last edited by Arcon; 02-07-2012 at 02:42 PM.
Nunu can rush dragon and solo it after a successful gank prior to level 6. Ashe can also perma slow. I'd like to see how spell vamp W>Q>W mundo works... I'll take heal and smite for a test-run against bots.
Yeah Shurelya's is now the first item I complete on support (after 2 or 3 gp5s). I get it before finishing boots.
EDIT: OMG JUNGLE MUNDO!!
Last edited by Phenoca; 02-07-2012 at 03:08 PM.
I'm definitely nowhere near being a pro, nor am I good by any stretch, but the movement speed quints are getting annoying as more and more people get them. In a chase situation, I'm finding myself generally unable to finish many opponents off, especially in dominion because I simply cannot catch them.
There was one game where I literally could not catch someone even though I had fully upgraded boots + a zeal while they merely had boots just because of runes and differences in base move speed (this one was really confusing honestly, my entire team had a collective wtf moment).
Last edited by Aimee; 02-07-2012 at 02:59 PM.
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Really the only champs that are not "tournament-viable" are the stealth champs, most others can be used with their strengths. Of course there are exceptions, most notably for me would be Viktor right now, and possibly Volibear. I think I've seen almost all champions in a tournament match at one time or another.
Looked through the champion roster and here're the champs I've never seen played in any tournie style play: Evelynn, Karma, Kayle, Master yi, Sejuani(newchamp), Twitch, Viktor, Volibear, Ziggs(newchamp). New champ = too recent for people to actually use/form opinion wether good or not, so they won't use in tournaments.
That's only like 10% of the champions that have never seen play, which isn't that bad imo.
And this is only from what I've seen, though I've followed the competetive scene for some time now.
And it's also why I love frozen mallet on all my tanky derps, rushing it gives such a big impact on the game once you got it finished.
Last edited by Arcon; 02-07-2012 at 03:38 PM.