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    All you of-age voters, get out there and vote!

    Especially you Cali guys/girls - PROP 19 YO!

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    vote for what ?


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    Just ate some monkey fightin' breakfast, read to do some monday to friday votin'.

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    This year isn't presidential elections, its state ones. Governors, gov't representatives, sheriffs, etc.

    But Prop 19 would make Cali have legalized herb for all people 21+. I'm interested to see how its going to turn out, because dealers want a black market, ya know? So they are all going to vote against it. But as far as I can tell, the polls have all been in favor for it.

    I'm just sooooooooo glad my state is getting the governor out. Hes the biggest ****ing idiot we've ever had.

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    Man i wanna live in california, their governor is a freaking terminator for god sake.

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    My state has 2 horribly corrupt idiots running for office. Its really a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils unfortunately. There isn't one solid choice.

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    I'm not voting since the corrupt idiots running for office never do what they want anyway, along with the fact that most people voting have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to politics.

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    As much as I would like pot to be legal this prop would not do much.

    Police officers will still use federal law to fine you or send you to jail for possession of marijuana.

    Drugs crimes are a major source of income for the police departments and they are fighting tooth and nail to get their way.

    The police also have the enormous power of the alcohol and tobacco industry to back them up.

    The people with the most money and connections will almost always get their way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oisterboy View Post
    This year isn't presidential elections, its state ones. Governors, gov't representatives, sheriffs, etc.

    But Prop 19 would make Cali have legalized herb for all people 21+. I'm interested to see how its going to turn out, because dealers want a black market, ya know? So they are all going to vote against it. But as far as I can tell, the polls have all been in favor for it.

    I'm just sooooooooo glad my state is getting the governor out. Hes the biggest ****ing idiot we've ever had.

    If you are talking about Arnold then you are kind of wrong.
    He has great ideas it's just he sucks at leadership.

    The real problem is the people who we have in office who cannot come together to create a budget in a state that has one of the highest debts in America.

    We have a bunch of corrupt people throwing money back and forth and making deals with other corporations to fill their own wallet.

    We also have too many officials working in government and are being overpaid.
    If we didn't have such high unemployment numbers and crap economy I would want most of them to be fired and the rest to have wages cut.

    In the past people who worked for the state didn't even get paid.

    When you invite money into the equation greed will also grow.
    Especially when you have corporations with money in their hands ready to throw some your way for supporting their ideas.
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    For the record, lets please not turn this into a pro or anti prop 19 thread. I don't wanna have a huge marijuana debate again, thats not really what this was about. I just wanted to remind people that today was voting day Not just for that but for everything.

    (not aimed at anyone specifically, just my attempt to nip it in the bud...no pun intended.)
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    where i am in new jersey our sheriff choices are an ex pornstar or an ex convict

    either way sheriff doesn't do much
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    go go go prop 19 i hope u get it trough , so if it would be legal in california , police could arest u still for weed bc of the law of the state america or what??


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    time to vote for some antigay, homophobe jesus freak *******.

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    It's a shame prop 19 doesn't mean anything.

    Even if california legalizes it (and if it does, it'll get revoked later.) the federal government won't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arri View Post
    It's a shame prop 19 doesn't mean anything.

    Even if california legalizes it (and if it does, it'll get revoked later.) the federal government won't.
    Yah they make too much money from the drug war.
    They have to keep stuffing their wallets full of money.

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    Obama has already stated that it is not his priority by any means to chase down states that are playing around with MJ laws. It will be interesting to see how the federal government reacts to it if it passes.

    I'm just thankful that I have my legal medical smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oisterboy View Post
    Obama has already stated that it is not his priority by any means to chase down states that are playing around with MJ laws. It will be interesting to see how the federal government reacts to it if it passes.
    Heres how the Federal Government will react to it: They'll still be allowed to arrest you even with your "legal" smoke.


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    Voting is the governments nice little way of letting you think that your opinion actually matters and that by voting you are actually doing something productive, when in reality you are just choosing which method you want to be ****ed.

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    Honestly why wouldn't the federal government let the cali be its little test subject for the legalization of marijuana? Why wouldn't they want to see whether or not the state/govt can bank on it, and see it's short term implications on productivity, crimerates and whatever else it might affect. They'd make a ****ing killing from taxing it's sale compared to the off times you are fined for possession. And I'm sure that any money they got from the bust is soon wasted on taking care of inmates in for possession charges and paying police officers for their time wasted on busting people for possession.

    Really it's a win win for them. Let it pass, let it roll (pun lol). Watch it. They like it? Oh shit it's raining green money everywhere. They don't like it? Precedence clause, law is unconstitutional, done over no more pot.

    Also yeah get out there and vote, you thinking your vote doesn't matter and not voting is what thousands of others are thinking, which can easily win or lose an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithian View Post
    Honestly why wouldn't the federal government let the cali be its little test subject for the legalization of marijuana? Why wouldn't they want to see whether or not the state/govt can bank on it, and see it's short term implications on productivity, crimerates and whatever else it might affect. They'd make a ****ing killing from taxing it's sale compared to the off times you are fined for possession. And I'm sure that any money they got from the bust is soon wasted on taking care of inmates in for possession charges and paying police officers for their time wasted on busting people for possession.

    Really it's a win win for them. Let it pass, let it roll (pun lol). Watch it. They like it? Oh shit it's raining green money everywhere. They don't like it? Precedence clause, law is unconstitutional, done over no more pot.

    Also yeah get out there and vote, you thinking your vote doesn't matter and not voting is what thousands of others are thinking, which can easily win or lose an election.
    It would be bad for the police departments, the tobacco industry and the alcohol industry.
    And if they don't want it legalize then it won't be.
    They have money and power so they will have their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronyTaken View Post
    It would be bad for the police departments, the tobacco industry and the alcohol industry.
    And if they don't want it legalize then it won't be.
    They have money and power so they will have their way.
    how would it hurt the tobacco and alcohol industry

    most people who smoke won't be able to quit just because weed is around they can get their fix there, and alcohol is far to commonly used for the industry to be ruined by weed
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    I once spoke with a guy who used to work for Phillip Morris and he claimed that they would have no problem getting in the pot market if it were ever legalized.

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    I agree with Irony, it's all about money. These politcians are corporately elected anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oisterboy View Post
    Obama has already stated that it is not his priority by any means to chase down states that are playing around with MJ laws. It will be interesting to see how the federal government reacts to it if it passes.

    I'm just thankful that I have my legal medical smoke.
    Obama has little influence over what the ATF decides to pursue legally since it is still against federal law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxxy View Post
    how would it hurt the tobacco and alcohol industry

    most people who smoke won't be able to quit just because weed is around they can get their fix there, and alcohol is far to commonly used for the industry to be ruined by weed
    Weed is easy to produce and gives a high without all the bad things from tobacco and alcohol.

    If you look who is pouring money into ads that are anti-prop 19 you will see it is the police departments and alcohol industry.

    So they obviously don't want it to be legal and are spending lots of money to do so.

    And they will most likely get their way.

    A company cares about profit before anything else and they will find ways to cut spending or reduce regulations even if they have to throw a lot of money at a politician or spam false ads to the public.

    For example, the billionaire Koch Brothers are in the oil business and there is a law in California that they are fighting against which would put caps on carbon emissions.
    What they do is hold meetings with all the other "like-minded" people in the energy business to finance their efforts to stop the law from being passed.
    They(the rich) try to work together to get the poorer (middle class and below) to believe they are on there side.
    But they don't care about the poor, they care about filling their own wallets.


    Another example is the huge fraud case with Countrywide.
    The CEO Angelo Mozilo knew even by 2003 that the market assets were toxic yet he kept telling the public that they were better than ever.
    Him and the president of the company basically bled it dry and ran with the money.
    While they were eventually found guilty of fraud their fine was not even a slap on the wrist.

    Mozilo made over 400 million and was fined a measly 67.5 million which the company paid most of that fine off anyway.
    The President made around 60 million and was fined only around 5 million which the company practically paid all off.
    So two frauds got away with hundreds of millions of other people's money with no accountability.

    The CEO was prohibited from taking another officer or director position which didn't really matter because the guy was in his 70s and just made over 400million.
    He basically retired with a hefty sum of money that he got from fraud.
    The President was prohibited from his position for only 3 years....
    The funny part is that the SEC is trying to make a big deal over it as if this was some big win.
    The SEC does not care about the fraud they only care about their status. They wanted to end the case and claim victory while letting a bunch of frauds get huge profits.
    Those frauds should give back all that money and then some.


    These are just a small speck of examples of why money, power and connections will always rule above law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinnful View Post
    Obama has little influence over what the ATF decides to pursue legally since it is still against federal law.
    Actually, Obama has all the influence. Federal cases are all prosecuted by the Executive branch and they get to pick and choose what to prosecute.

    I think California needs legalized weed. The state is broke and we would make a killing off of it by taxing it out the wazoo. And even then it would probably still be cheaper than it is now.


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