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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartyace View Post
    Even though my post was almost completely directed at Candy. I'll give you an explaination.

    I resisted saying it was mediocre, because then I'd get a whole lotta rage about how good it is.
    To be fair, i dont think anyone said it was the best.

    And speak how you feel. I dont see anything wrong with that, ever.

    I dont blame anyone for thinking a game is terrible, or "generic". I honestly could never stand GW or WoW, but i could play games like Flyff for hours on end. I cant explain how, or why, its just how it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by queenvoo View Post
    the game world and gfx look beautiful - i dont see why it cant succeed ... unless its too generic and there are not enough players..?
    but even if it just follows the crowd of grindy/animeish mmos, it IS Ragnarok Online, and should pull a loyal following?

    The game is nothing like the first Ragnarok at all, it's just a generic MMORPG with a Ragnarok coat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartyace View Post
    GW2 isn't generic.... Where did that even come from.

    Lotro and Everquest aren't popular (Anymore) so it's safe to assume it's mediocre in this age.

    WoW is popular for being popular. A friend of mine argued with me about how great it was, with his only supportive evidence being it had a better cinematic trailer then GW2.

    RO2 isn't bad yet again, just isn't the best on the market. Accept the fact that there are better games and MOVE ON.
    gw2 isn't generic? have you played the game? no? okay.
    everquest 1 has a lot of players(why do you still think they are creating xpacs), so does everquest 2 (2 full servers at any time of the day)
    wow is popular because it actually did everything RIGHT. it may have been generic as shit, but it was extremely polished at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    gw2 isn't generic? have you played the game? no? okay.
    everquest 1 has a lot of players(why do you still think they are creating xpacs), so does everquest 2 (2 full servers at any time of the day)
    wow is popular because it actually did everything RIGHT. it may have been generic as shit, but it was extremely polished at the same time.
    Gw2 is generic... I'm not even going to argue this one, I don't even know what to say to this.

    EQ and EQ2 have a decent population, I won't blow it out of proposition by saying it's popular. TERA - GW2 and hell maple story, I'd call popular.

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    WoW did every thing right? why was the combat the blandest around then.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoscauser View Post
    WoW did every thing right? why was the combat the blandest around then.......
    Because a game doesn't need to have great looking, flourishing combat with your character doing back flips and you needing to combo every possible ability in order for it to be polished and overall enjoyable.

    This is exactly what game companies try to do now. Making their combat so "exciting" and "innovative" and the rest of the game is disgustingly lackluster. GW2 suffered from this exact thing. So did TERA and practically every other action-MMO in existence.

    There's absolutely no debate when it comes to how polished and refined WoW's content is. Regardless if it's repetitive, the game opens up massively at endgame, which is how MMOs should be. Endgame content is what keeps players playing.

    People need to stop being so concerned with how combat looks, and actually focus on how it plays, handles and the overall quality of the game. WoW is still on an entire different level to 99% of the MMOs out there.

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    Honestly it simply sounds like you never played WoW at launch. The game was incredibly unpolished and flawed, including the combat. The game been constantly polished for nearly a decade. It silly to hear someone claim that WoW is flawless yet is so blatantly obvious that they never played the launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renrinken View Post
    Honestly it simply sounds like you never played WoW at launch. The game was incredibly unpolished and flawed, including the combat. The game been constantly polished for nearly a decade. It silly to hear someone claim that WoW is flawless yet is so blatantly obvious that they never played the launch.
    And everyone is getting aggressive...

    Let's go back to this RO2 conversation.

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    I for one can't wait to try the Global version. I just hope they don't make the same mistakes as SEA. It needs a proper English voice over and also of course really good translations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renrinken View Post
    Honestly it simply sounds like you never played WoW at launch. The game was incredibly unpolished and flawed, including the combat. The game been constantly polished for nearly a decade. It silly to hear someone claim that WoW is flawless yet is so blatantly obvious that they never played the launch.
    Are you talking to me?

    I played Vanilla. Sure, it had flaws, glaring ones. It also came out what...9 years ago? When MMOs were in their infancy still. So that's really not relevant to games coming out in this day and age. Nor is comparing Vanilla to Current WoW even remotely relevant anymore. You don't make a game to compete with what a game was nearly a decade ago, and expect people to sit around for 2+ years until you have adequate content.

    No one has said WoW is flawless, but ignoring the fact that it's the most polished MMO to date is just pure ignorance.

    It's terribly obvious that most companies now focus on making their game look good, as opposed to making the game actually play good. Everquest looks like trash, even the Shadows of Luclin graphics update looked awful, but it was an extremely popular and well managed game, because there were actually things to do in the game to keep people busy for years and years.

    You cannot release a game with abysmal launch content and expect it to do well in this day and age, simply on looks alone.

    RO2 can be as grindy and generic as it wants. RO1 was pretty much that in the grand scheme of things. They eventually alleviated a chunk of the grind as the game aged, but the reason people remember RO and it's a big part of a lot of peoples MMO experience is because what the game offered. Which was a pretty good amount of content between MVPs and especially WoE. If RO2 wants to be successful, they just need MVPs, which we can clearly see in the trailer, and WoE, which I would expect to hit the game at some point, if it's not already in.

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    Because it's WarpPortal and it's also hosting iRO, RO2 will have a really good player base. WarpPortal servers don't suck but the cust**** service is pretty bad, which is something I can overlook. RO2 is pretty much RO1 with grinding, since everyone is calling RO2 a generic grinder.

    I agree with Xeon. MVP & WoE will make the game incredibly popular. I remember iRO, I was about to quit for good because the game was just so damn boring. Days before I was quitting, WoE comes out. After that, I stayed on iRO for years. RO2 will do just fine within the American market once WoE hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    RO2 will do just fine within the American market once WoE hits.
    That's why I want to move to a non-USA country. We're all egotistic PVP lovers. Save for me and a few others.

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    Im not a huge fan of pvp, but i did love WoE. Or the ones that required strategy and class based tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viney1 View Post
    I for one can't wait to try the Global version. I just hope they don't make the same mistakes as SEA. It needs a proper English voice over and also of course really good translations.
    for voice overs esp on games.. I'd go for japan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    Because it's WarpPortal and it's also hosting iRO, RO2 will have a really good player base. WarpPortal servers don't suck but the cust**** service is pretty bad, which is something I can overlook. RO2 is pretty much RO1 with grinding, since everyone is calling RO2 a generic grinder.

    I agree with Xeon. MVP & WoE will make the game incredibly popular. I remember iRO, I was about to quit for good because the game was just so damn boring. Days before I was quitting, WoE comes out. After that, I stayed on iRO for years. RO2 will do just fine within the American market once WoE hits.
    Speaking of their cust**** service, is it really that bad? Cause I've seen players post on its official FB page and I thought they're just messing with the CS team. LOL

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    currently playing RO2 sea server and i really hate it
    because they are always having maintenance just like today
    they have a sudden maintenance which is different from
    their weekly maintenance that will took place tomorrow
    which will probably last for another 6 to 8 hrs >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiotakiBun View Post
    Speaking of their cust**** service, is it really that bad? Cause I've seen players post on its official FB page and I thought they're just messing with the CS team. LOL
    Honestly, I've never really had a problem with them. But I know some people that I played iRO with that tried to get in contact with them because of something in game, like glitches or in-game issues, and it took them forever to get a reply. Sometimes it was instant.

    I had a feeling RO2 Sea was going to bomb. The moment they IP banned everyone outside of SEA and used us as a stress test, it was doomed.

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    RO2 is really generic and not particularly good.

    But everytime someone requests a 3D open world anime MMORPG in the request section, I think about it and realize that all 3D anime MMORPGs are basically generic grinders and then end up suggestion RO2 anyway. Because what else could I suggest? Grand Fantasia? Eden Eternal? Flyff? Rose Online? They're not particularly better than RO2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeonswitch View Post
    Because a game doesn't need to have great looking, flourishing combat with your character doing back flips and you needing to combo every possible ability in order for it to be polished and overall enjoyable.

    This is exactly what game companies try to do now. Making their combat so "exciting" and "innovative" and the rest of the game is disgustingly lackluster. GW2 suffered from this exact thing. So did TERA and practically every other action-MMO in existence.

    There's absolutely no debate when it comes to how polished and refined WoW's content is. Regardless if it's repetitive, the game opens up massively at endgame, which is how MMOs should be. Endgame content is what keeps players playing.

    People need to stop being so concerned with how combat looks, and actually focus on how it plays, handles and the overall quality of the game. WoW is still on an entire different level to 99% of the MMOs out there.
    I agree with this, i started playing World of Warcraft about 6 days ago.. Me and my brother both decided to buy all expansions and play as RAF. So far after playing almost EVERY game out there from flyff, rose, maple story, ragnarok, swtor, GW2, DC Universe, Tera, Rift and many more.. i have to Say i am having a very good time on WOW, i am enjoying it to the fullest. The experience i'm having in wow i never felt in any other game (EXCLUDING RAGNAROK <-- my first and my favorite game of all-time). But GW2 didn't even come close.. i was very excited for it, after a few days of playing i was still very excited.. but after noticing that i am just as powerful at level 19 that i was at lvl 1.. and how small and just not alive the world was i grew to hate the game.

    In WOW the world gives you a different feeling, just feels great. This is coming from someone who has only played wow for 6 days currently level 52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DneL View Post
    In WOW the world gives you a different feeling, just feels great. This is coming from someone who has only played wow for 6 days currently level 52.
    I play WoW and since release, they've polished it. That's why you get that smooth gameplay feeling when you play the game. And since you are using RAF and hitting 52, if you level by yourself, you could also hit 52 in a matter of days. They lowered the exp tables a lot, making random dungeons giving you bonus exp for completing them, etc, etc. Leveling is just very easy now. My friend is already 76 and he came back from WoW after 4 years.

    Blizzard is also in the process of working on character models. They did show the new NPCs of Thunder Isle (new daily quest zone), are upgraded models of Trolls. So it's safe to assume troll players will get that upgrade sometime in the future.

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    Warp Portal just announced that iRO2 CB will be on April 18th!

    Start getting ready for the CB by registering early for the CB. All you have to do is register and you'll be in. Apparently they'll also be giving prizes out to people that register for CB early (before CB starts).

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    Right around the time ill get bored of Defiance on 360.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kait0s View Post
    Right around the time ill get bored of Defiance on 360.
    Not even going to buy Defiance, so I'll probably play LaTale Season 2 for a bit. And then some WoW until a few days after RO2 CBT starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    I play WoW and since release, they've polished it. That's why you get that smooth gameplay feeling when you play the game. And since you are using RAF and hitting 52, if you level by yourself, you could also hit 52 in a matter of days. They lowered the exp tables a lot, making random dungeons giving you bonus exp for completing them, etc, etc. Leveling is just very easy now. My friend is already 76 and he came back from WoW after 4 years.

    Blizzard is also in the process of working on character models. They did show the new NPCs of Thunder Isle (new daily quest zone), are upgraded models of Trolls. So it's safe to assume troll players will get that upgrade sometime in the future.

    Had no idea trolls were being remodeled i have a Troll hunter level 27 ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by DneL View Post
    Had no idea trolls were being remodeled i have a Troll hunter level 27 ;]
    Please stay on topic.. That's not even an F2P game!
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